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SnK Episode 71 Poll Results (for Manga Readers)

The poll closed with 176 responses. Thank you to everyone who participated!

Please note that these are the results for the Manga Readers’ poll. If you wish to see the results for the Anime Only Watchers’ poll, click here.

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RATE THE EPISODE 172 responses

This week’s episode keeps up the high mark of the previous episodes, with 98.8% of respondents giving the episode a score of 3 or higher (overwhelmingly 4s and 5s). Nice!

It was aight. 

It's cool

8.5/10 

great!

Very rocky imo in terms of animation, as the cracks are beginning to show but overall look like the backgrounds and music choices were top tier.

Really good episode, I was disappointed in the jacket scene but it’s not the end of the world

loved it

It was overall a great episode I loved it. 

🔥🔥🔥

WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING MOMENTS WAS YOUR FAVORITE? 174 responses

46.6% of respondents overall were most excited to see Eren meeting up with Floch and the others, with 23.6% of those respondents favoring the scene of Eren putting on his jacket specifically. 12.1% most enjoyed seeing the angry citizens shouting out the Survey Corps motto. 9.8% were thrilled to see Zackley’s death animated. 8% were psyched to see Pieck in disguise at the end, and 6.9% most enjoyed the moment where Hitch caught Armin red-handed trying to touch Annie’s crystal.

YOUR REACTION TO EREN PUTTING ON HIS JACKET? 171 responses

Eren putting on his jacket was a scene many obsessed over when it first appeared on page and many looked forward to seeing it animated. Most of the response choices were focused on various forms of swooning over Eren and his abs. Some (13.5%) stated that they didn’t really understand the dramatism and some others (another 13.5%) simply stated that they did not see much in Eren outright. We’ve gotten a lot of write-ins about comparisons to the pre-animated trailer shot of said scene. More on that in a later question. 

i mean i understand the thirst, but eh

Prefer manga :/

The trailer did it better 

Meh. Better in the trailer and the manga.

TF was that? Well it's still good in its own way. 

YES! YES! YES! YES! Y E S! 

both "HOOOOOLYYYYYY 😳" and "so dramatic and for what?"

Trailer/Manga shot was way better

Manga shot/trailer version are way better. Dissapointed

Trailer looked better :(

Mappa only made Reiner thicc, why Eren is so frain he has 1,85! He is so strong in the manga

I don't care

Manbun.........👀

He can have my babies anytime 😌💅🏻

Not as sexy as advertised; that’s okay, though.

That scene looked weird af ngl. It looked better in the trailer 😔

Me after THAT eren scene: 🤰🏻🤰🏻🤰🏻

Eren makes my dick rise

ON A SCALE OF 1-5, HOW HAPPY ARE YOU NOW THAT WE APPEAR TO BE GOING BACK TO LEVI AND ZEKE’S PERSPECTIVE NEXT WEEK FOR A BIT? 171 responses

Levi and Zeke’s chemistry has been the subject of praise for many, so it’s no wonder that 87.1% of respondents are rather excited to get back to seeing Levi and Zeke again. Wow!

ARE ARMIN’S FEELINGS FOR ANNIE GENUINELY HIS OWN? 173 responses

Armin’s feelings for Annie have been looked at under a microscope for a variety of reasons, which is why we’re asking if you believe that his feelings for her are genuine. A plurality, 49.1% think that they’re a mixture of his feelings for her, as well Bertolt’s. Slightly less (30.6%) believe that Armin’s feelings for her existed since before any of the recent developments. Only a select few believe that he either became interested in her post-timeskip or that his feelings are solely influenced by Bertolt. One person doesn’t think Armin has any feelings for Annie at all. And a few others just don’t care.

Bertmin simping for Annie and that apparently being enough for her to start considering him as boyfriend material is the fucking worst. I hate this shit. It's made me like both characters considerably less.

Uhh Armin where ya reaching?! 

He was interested with her even before it was revealed she was the Female Titan and now that he has Bertholdt's memories, he sympathizes with her too and wants to understand her more so maybe Bert's memories intensified his feelings

His feelings for Annie are mostly his own. Bert's feelings might be in there a little, but the feelings are still Armin's.

CONTINUITY ALERT! EREN HAS HIS HAIR UP IN A BUN IN YELENA’S FLASHBACK. THOUGHTS? 173 responses

Uh-oh, Eren’s hairstyle moment. It would appear that there might be a continuity error with Yelena’s flashback and whatever that means for the timeline. A slight plurality (37%) didn’t seem to care about this, actually. But 33.5% appeared to believe that it was a mistake on MAPPA’s part that might get fixed in the BluRay version of the episode. 16.8% also believe that it was a mistake, but don’t believe it’ll get fixed. 9.8% think that it’s actually a retcon and that Eren’ll have the man bun when Chapter 123 gets adapted in Final Season Part 2.  

I hope it gets fixed because it's bugging me.

I really wish it was like how it was in the manga. Eren looks good with his hair down in his 16-17-year-old phase. Despite the error, it wasn't a deal breaker for the episode.

He looks totally gorgeous with his hair up in a bun, please let this mistake be

Honestly I don’t mind it. It looks great either way.

Eren in a manbun is a total win for me!

WHICH PIECES OF INFORMATION MISSING FROM YELENA’S ADMISSION IN THE MANGA DO YOU WISH WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ADAPTATION? 163 responses

As with almost all dialogue-heavy chapters in this series, there are cuts. In this episode, these cuts mostly affected the conversation between Yelena and Pixis. The most yearned for cut material was Yelena never telling Eren to go along with the plan and Yelena saying that she used Floch as a “go-between” between her and Eren. Others also noted missing lines about Yelena wanting Eren to stand up for himself, Yelena stating that Zeke gave the volunteers a hopeful future and the idea that her and Eren came to quick agreement. The plurality (31.9%) however, didn’t seem to mind any cuts. 

WHAT ARE YOU OVERALL FEELINGS ABOUT SOME OR ALL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED DETAILS BEING CUT? 161 responses

There is often a sort of expectation to have everything (or almost every) line from the manga adapted in the anime, so it’s interesting to see how people react to that sort of stuff. An almost 50% of respondents stated that they didn’t really care about the cuts, whereas smaller handfuls of respondents stated that the cuts either took away from the characterization of the conversation, or from the context and timeline-building purposes. 

I'm not thrilled about the cuts, but I understand MAPPA can only fit so much in on each episode, so I'm okay with it

the yelena/volunteers plot has always been wonky and hard to follow

I don’t think it’s a problem, they need to cut certain things. 

i literally never notice but i agree that it makes it harder to piece things together 

Meh

It might seem for anime watchers that Yelena didnt do much, and Floch and Zeke that did the most part, in their own plans. Floch to betray and Zeke in predicting Eren wouldnt be on his side in some way. Yelena helped Zeke a lot to where he arrived in the rumbling 

All of the above

ZACKLEY WALKS OVER TO HIS TORTURE MACHINE IN THE ANIME BEFORE MIKASA ASKS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO EREN, RATHER THAN GLANCE OVER AT IT AFTER HER QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHANGE? 170 responses

There was a partially comedic insinuation in the manga that Zackley thought about strapping Eren to his “art piece”. The insinuation is possibly still there in the anime, but in a different form. So we asked how you felt about it. Slightly below a half (48.8%) stated that they thought the subtlety was still there. 18.8% thought the subtlety was lost with the small change and 8.8% believed the change made Zackley seem less unhinged. 21.8% really didn’t care at all. 

Why is this a question?

The glance was funny as fuck in the manga, but might have been awkward to pull of in the animation

They're blown up tho, does it even matter?

DID EREN KNOW ABOUT THE BOMB? 170 responses

Whether Eren truly knew about the bomb is a bit unclear to this day and with how it endangered Armin and Mikasa. A plurality (40%) believe he knew about the bomb, but did not know about his childhood friends meeting Zackley. Slightly less (30.6%) think that Eren did not know about either the bomb or AM meeting the Artist. A minority (7.1%) does believe that Eren knew about both the bomb and meeting and 21.8% simply aren’t sure!

Even if he didn’t know, he obviously doesn’t care either way.

THERE IS SOME DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER EREN’S JACKET SCENE WAS BETTER ANIMATED IN THE PROMOTIONAL VIDEO OR IN THE EPISODE ITSELF. WHICH DO YOU CHOOSE? 170 responses

Here we go… The elephant in the room… Which Eren abs scene did you prefer? The Promotional video or the actual episode? A somewhat slight majority (57.1%) seemed to like the version seen in the promotional video more than the episode itself versus the ones who preferred the episode’s style (42.9%).

THE EPISODE MARKS THE BEGINNING OF FLOCH’S ACTIONS AS THE VOICE OF THE YEAGERISTS. HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT IT? 170 responses

Floch has always been a controversial character and the developments seen post-time skip have not been any less debatable. You may floching love him or floching hate, but he’s here and he’s staying for a while. A plurality (48.8%) notes that although they may not personally be a fan of the character, they truly do appreciate the nuance his appearance gives to the story. Just over a quarter (25.3%) stated that as big fans of the character, they’re looking forward to all the screentime the Flochster will receive. In contrast, 20.6% despise the man and his questionable haircut and are also dreading the showcase he’ll soon receive.  

I hate Floch and will cheer again when he dies, but I enjoy his character.

I detest Floch but I'm not dreading all the screen time he'll take up.

Since he died in the manga, my hatred for him has cooled down somewhat now that I'm watching the anime.

I am once again asking for you to shut the fuck up, Floch.

WE KNOW NOW THAT EREN DID CONSPIRE WITH FLOCH TO BETRAY ZEKE TO ENACT THE RUMBLING. STILL, DO YOU BELIEVE HE DID IT BECAUSE HE HAS THE SAME BELIEFS AS FLOCH, OR WAS HE JUST USING FLOCH AND THE YEAGERISTS AS A MEANS TO AN END? 161 responses

An overwhelming amount of respondents (87.6%) stated that they believe Eren never truly saw eye to eye with Floch and his ideology and that Eren was simply using Floch as a means to an end. In contrast, 9.3% truly do think that Eren was ideologically similar to Floch and the “New Eldian Empire”. A select few thought you couldn’t just say one way or another. 

They both wanted to protect Paradis

DO YOU THINK IF THE YEAGERISTS, BESIDES FLOCH, KNEW ABOUT THE FULL SCALE RUMBLING BEFOREHAND THAT THEY WOULD WILLINGLY FOLLOW EREN? 167 responses

The majority (53.3%) feel that the Yeagerists would see a divide if they knew beforehand that Eren wanted to initiate the rumbling, with some sticking around for the cause and others possibly leaving because it’s too extreme. 25.1% believe that they all would have fully supported the rumbling in the name of their own survival. 15% believe that every Yeagerist already knew about the plan to commence the rumbling, and only 6% feel that they would most certainly have betrayed the Yeager brothers (and Floch) if they had known. 

I don’t know, this is a loaded question and I’m tired.

DO YOU THINK THAT, IF THE STORY ENDS PEACEFULLY, MIKASA WILL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN HIZURU? 170 responses

While this plotline may not be going anywhere in the manga (or so it seems), the reminder of its existence is brought to light again as we revisit these older moments from the manga. 32.4% feel that Mikasa wouldn’t leave Paradis behind to start a life on Hizuru. 23.5% think that she wouldn’t leave Paradis behind, necessarily, but will still have a role to play in Hizuru. 21.2% think it doesn’t matter because Isayama has completely discarded (or forgotten) about this plotline. 12.4% don’t know what to predict (if anything) and only 8.2% believe that her future lies in Hizuru beyond the main storyline.

The last two options plus me not caring. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hizuru is already rumbled, gone, but she will continue the azumabito clan in paradis

Is no one else gonna question Kiyomi's hair being sucked into her skull??? HELLO MA'AM???

Hizuru is likely flattened

WHICH SCENE FROM THE PREVIEW ARE YOU MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO? 171 responses

Episode 72 has already broadcasted as of the completion of this poll. For scenes that were most anticipated, 35.7% were most looking forward to seeing Levi and Zeke’s interaction in the forest. 33.3% most looked forward to Niccolo leaning straight from Gabi’s mouth that she is Sasha’s killer. 18.7% highly anticipated the Blouses learning about Gabi killing Sasha, and 9.4% were looking forward to Gabi/Falco and the Blouses gathering at Niccolo’s restaurant. Only a small amount were looking forward to Niccolo protecting Jean and Connie from drinking the wine.

ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THE EPISODE?

Man the animation was gonky 

no levi </3

So many faces of Niles are weirds !

Let hange aloneeeeeeee and happy, please

I have no word for this, but I feeling good

Shit is getting really real now! 

Everyone talking about Eren’s abs and I just wanna say the music in that scene was amazing!

I loved how it was all neatly put together and fast moving

Armin looked so good. Homie walked from point A to B and i SCREAMED. Thank you. 

i wish they included eren's warhammer escape from the prison, besides that solid episode all around, the people chanting 'dedicate your hearts' gave me chills 

I can't stand Hitch at all but MAPPA made her really pretty. Re: The jacket scene The trailer version was pretty much identical to the manga panel. But I liked the version that made it into the final episode too. People have been so ridiculous about MAPPA ""ruining everything"" this season, they should stop watching if that's how they feel. I thought Eren looked great and found the sun shining on his abs funny. The scenery was better in the episode, imo. I hope they don't cut Jean's line about booze not caring about what race you are. Lmao

Meh. It's not bad of course, I just find the rythm weird and I don't really feel many emotions watching the episodes. And I was so thirsty for the jacket scene, and it turned out weird too.

Mappa pls stop drawing eren like shit he is gorgeous in the manga

MMGH SOON!! LET'S GOOOOOOO

You friccin moron, you just got zooked!

i miss eremin </3

Wish they had shown how eren used his titan powers to escape.

I'm so not looking forward to the controversy that's gonna be reignited during the EMA talk scene. I'm actually dreading it, but we'll finally get the Levi vs Beast Titan scene so I'll be fine

112 will destroy ships 

I felt the animation was flawless as usual but the script was kinda boring, I expected more of these aspects: -Yelena, it was bland with the cuts -Hange, they cut something I cant figure what in this Yeagerists coup act that turned her scenes a little bit lacking? Idk something -Again the soundtrack in the episodes is so silent. The only episode so far I liked the ost beyond the Opening and Closing themes is Reiner episode. I miss the melodrama of Witstudio osts

Eren putting his jacket on in slow-speed whilst talking at regular speed is fucking trippy

Just happy to see Hitch!

It was slow and mainly plot driven. I enjoyed it despite the changes.

goddamn is that a hella well-animated explosion

more abs please

Great episode. Really ridiculous how many people overreacted about the jacket scene. It's ok to perfer the way the trailer did it but to those who say Mappa is ruining the adaptation because of minor things like this, calm down. 

I wish the jacket scene was better But over all the ep is pretty good

Boring, but then again so was this phase in the manga.

I really like the VA they chose for Onyankopon! His voice is very warm and genuine, which suits his character well

The sunset was so aesthetically pleasing 

yoooo just read ch. 138 and im crying in da club :(

These MAPPA episodes have been a low point for me. I’m trying to enjoy them because I love this story but it feels like a chore.

WHERE DO YOU PRIMARILY DISCUSS THE SERIES? 161 responses

Thanks again to everyone who participated!

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spn 8x06, liveblog, collected posts (all 15 of them) or as i like to call it: Don’t disturb a ghost that’s chillin’ or they might just do some killin’

I love that Sam gets to call Dean out on his hypocrisy!

#Dean: benny is my friend so he deserves to live! Amy though… uh nope, I killed her behind your back bc im a jerk :-)

 Garth!!! I love him so much.

 Garth as Bobby’s replacement is nice. I love him!!!

#he had a hard year

 The fact that Garth just tests the ectoplasm by tasting it is the worst! NO!

 Oh Yeah Right, that’s the fucked up confederate ghost story asdfgh

 “What have we got here, a ghost with an Oedipus complex… I don’t know what this means.” I gathered that, Dean.

#honestly I think maybe anything to do with greek and roman mythology is just deans weak point in his knowledge cause that’s been a constant string of him not knowing things

 Dean is such an asshole to Garth. Like I get that he finds him weird or whatever, but no reason to be such an asshole!

#like seriously dean is so judgmental #also Garth also grieved for Bobby

 God, Sam enough with the flashbacks!

#im bored!!! Like I like him and Amelia but its so slow!

 FUCK YEAH! Garth getting to call out Dean for being a possessive asshole that doesn’t allow anyone else beside himself to grieve.

#its what he deserves #god I forgot how much I love Garth

Ok, so the damn ghost is in the asthma inhaler, that’s creepy

#also did the dude now ever get his inhaler or did they just leave him to choke?

 The way the possessed dude sniffs Dean and leans in is so creepy!

#like for a second I thought he was gonna go in for a creepy rapey kiss but then I remembered he was possessing a man #so that wouldn’t happen. But I swear 100% if that ghost had possessed a woman I would bet on a creepy kiss #bc the writers do it constantly and its so fucked up!!!

 UGH! I hate this scene so much! Like I know its once more a ghost spilling the Winchester’s biggest secrets, but ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#like 95% of the things Dean say here are bullshit and it makes me angry that he still holds them against Sam #no matter how subconsciously! He does still do that #and it would be interested if that was explored like actually explored #but they don’t do that either! #they just have Dean be an asshole to Sam and then its never explored after that

 Also the fact that they bring up “drinking demon blood, being in cahoots with Ruby” RIGHT after the reveal with Benny where Sam reacted a lot more mature than Dean ever would have makes me also so, so angry. Like hypocrisy, thy name is Dean Winchester. (also spns treatment of addicts will Always piss me tf off).

#not telling me you lost your soul #or how about running around with Samuel for a whole year à not things that were sams fault

 “I never once betrayed you” à flashbacks to Dean killing Amy (and later on Gadreel, but that’s the future so doesn’t count just yet)

“I never once left you to die” à flashback to the panic room where Dean knew Sam could die + flashback to Dean beating the shit out of soulless!Sam (something which Cas said woulda killed him if he had had a soul)

#sam getting to punch him for that is satisfying tbh #like Dean doesn’t necessarily deserve to be hit bc it’s the ghost talking #but still I get it!

 I love Garth so much

#the best character of this show #also great taste in music asdfgh

 Like Sam has been on the road for a couple of months before he even met Amelia. Are you trying to tell me that he then didn’t look? He drove himself ragged to find a way to save Dean and I fucking HATE that we didn’t get to see that. It’s implied, sure (f.e. the way Crowley warns him to stay away from his demons suggests that Sam went on a demon killing spree), but its not made explicit the way most of Dean’s actions are and I hate it!

#there’d be way less hate for his character if they had put that little bit more of effort in there #and its just such a disservice #bc I as a sam fanatic and intense tv watcher catch those moments #but if youre just chilling you don’t get it!

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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2

(SPOILERS)

(like seriously dude if you haven’t seen the movie, do not read this or it will literally spoil all the good shit probably)

Ego. 

Fucking Ego, man. Alright so:

- I called that the fucking plant spelled bad the second it came on screen, like, if a guy from space called fucking Ego (literally, it’s the latin fucking word for “me”), comes to your damn planet, plants some shady ass, freaky looking alien plant, and insists how important it was to him that it fucking took, THAT IS A FUCKING BAD!

- I called the tumor thing since the first movie, long before we knew who Peter’s father was xD You gonna fuck a space man, who for all you know could be oozing radiation, and then be surprised when you get a fucking brain tumor? Dude, Quill’s mom, seriously xD 

- Ego is just that guy from Mass Effect who fucks all the aliens xD

Also I love how James Gunn managed to perfectly capture his “that’s why he’s fucking called EGO” motivations xD

ALSO CELESTIALS OMFG

- Ego just took the crown from Thanos of being the worst parent in the damn galaxy xD Like Thanos at least spent time with his girls, even if he tortured them, at least he was there

Ayesha and her gold people omfg:

- I just wanna appreciate the amount of people they had to paint gold for this movie

- Also I love how the premise of their people is that they’re so perfect and genetically engineered to be whatever they’re meant to be, but then they’re such rage-gamers and they have so much personality and they’re so silly, and I really like that as a turn on the trope of the wannabe-“perfect” people xD

- Also in the post credit scene with Ayesha, Adam refers to Adam Warlock, which is a VERY IMPORTANT REFERENCE, cause in the comics, Adam Warlock is linked to the soul gem, which is the infinity stone that we have not encountered in the MCU yet (the ones we have being the space (Tesseract), mind (Loki’s scepter/Vision’s head), reality (Aether), time (Eye of Agamotto) and power (Orb) gem)

Talking of references, the team around Sylvester Stallone’s character in another one of the post credit scenes is a reference to the ORIGINAL GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY! (in earth 691 or something) 

- Yondu was in that original team in the comics, is probably why they, in the movie reassembled after his death, and why he said that he and “the other pilots” or whatever were quite like the guardians, back in the day and that that’s why they were so heartbroken when he “betrayed” them

- And like the crystal dude, I looked his name up the other day, dammit what was it? Urg, doesn’t matter rn xD Crystal dude was SO COOL OMFG can we have more pls, srsly, he looked like a cool (as in cold, as in ice-y instead of fire) version of ghost rider with his style xD

- Also talking of the other ravagers: who tf were the fricking gals who stole Hela’s look? xD Like they looked like they were either her fan club, or they used to be a girl band and Hela pulled her edge-lord(*edge-lady xD) and left them to do her own thing but then she got herself captured by the Asgardians/made herself queen of hel (not in that order xD) I tried figuring out who they were supposed to be but like I couldn’t figure it out, so I don’t even know if they were some different species or if that was just kinda their look xD (*puts edge-lady Hela former ravager girl band member AU on TO DO* xD (jk I don’t have time for random AUs xD))

THEY FINALLY CONFIRMED STAN LEE AS UATU THE WATCHER OMG :D

And omfg all the family feels in this goddamn movie, fuck

Also I was kinda disappointed that all the post credit scenes were related to the movie itself rather than directly setting up any of the movies to come (notably Ragnarok or Infinity War) I was hoping for Thanos or the grandmaster (the latter also cause he’s fucking mentionned on the fucking imdb page under the uncredited actors but then they didn’t fucking deliver???), but on the bright side that spares me from having to base a shitload of Ragnarok fanart off of a few more seconds of material xD