#(ie a qpr rather than a romantic relationship)

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ok here we go, as promised, queerplatonic floui headcanons!

*proceeds to sit and stare at the computer for like ten minutes, motionless*

ah-hah ok, the headcanons have loaded, there they are under the cut:

they know each other so so well. they can almost always predict what the other is thinking or planning, and most often they're the first to notice when the other is feeling sad or annoyed or whatever. they just. they get each other

you know that butterflies feeling you get when you're thinking about a crush or whatever? (I dunno, I'm told that's what happens when you allos get crushes) there's little to none of that between Loui and Flo. they're so comfortable with each other that there's no reason for nervousness, or quick heart rates, or whatever else you alloromantic people claim you feel

Loui is chill like 90% of the time, right? but he absolutely cannot keep his cool when he's talking to Spain, because he's just so furious that Spain was, um, not the best parent to Florida

Florida is a bit romance repulsed, and Loui is so so careful about making sure that nothing they do makes Florida uncomfortable (like, they cuddle and all that, but no kissing on the lips, but Florida does like it when Loui kisses his forehead or fingers- and there are just so many little things that Loui makes sure Florida likes before he does them)

they call each other "Floridile" and "Louigator" (found this one in my notes, I apparently came up with it like months ago and completely forgot)

when Florida gets a new hyper fixation, he's always so excited to go over and tell Loui all about it, and Loui just sits and watches him with the dopiest smile because he's so happy to see Florida so excited

Loui struggles with self doubt sometimes, and when he does, Florida always goes right to him. he'll try to distract Loui with TV or crime or goofy stories, but if Loui's not feeling it, he'll just sit there. y'know, to show that he'll always be there for him

they're absolutely codependent, but, like, in a cute way

please feel free to share your own queerplatonic floui hcs if you have any; I always love to hear more about my boys

(@sleepdeprivedsimp234 @lunearobservatory @misery-has-no-company-now, thanks for being willing to hear me ramble haha)

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my personal opinion on yoohankim

the reason why i am unwillling to read more than three pages of ao3′s yoohankim ship tag (this prelude is, in fact, ineffectual to my argument because at the time of this post, ao3′s yoohankim ship tag has three pages, but please ignore this for my following point) is because they all get them completely wrong. 

all three of these mfs are emotionally inept and incapable of speaking their true feelings directly. they would not say, “i love you.” 

what they would say (in a scenario [not Scenario] wherein they’re not at the pre-relationship stage, but not quite past the pining stage, after going through extreme amounts of character development. important, because at any other stage in this process, except in the ones past the pining stage, these would either be insults or just not said ever): “your prose is beautiful.” “i wrote this for you.” “i want you to be my ■■■.” “you were my beginning, and i want you to be my end.” “you’re my protagonist. i’ve put too much effort in you to let you go now.” “thanks for betareading for me.” “you’ll starve if you don’t take breaks, technical god of this universe or no. i made kimchi jjigae.” 

the stages are like this: 

pre-relationship is them at the end of canon. 

pining is an extremely long period of uncertainty and miscommunication and learning each other where they help each other smooth over some issues (ie. thinking that kim dokja is going to disappear again if yoohan take their eyes off him, yoo joonghyuck having to acclimate to not regressing anymore bc he’s in his epilogue and the idea that any death he will experience will most likely be permanent, and han sooyoung grappling with the fact that she very publically arranged for kim dokja’s return so everyone knows that she has non-negative feelings about him, and just non-negative feelings in general). 

getting together is a long space where they realize other, not apocolypse-related stuff about each other (kim dokja’s home isn’t the house kim com share, kim com themselves, or even yoohan. it’s ways of survival. han sooyoung is the type of writer who churns out ludicrously high word counts with an appalling ease and practically posts their first draft with minimal revision, but the end product is offensively flawless. yoo joonghyuck’s favorite skill he owns is cooking, not only because he likes taking care of others, but because he vastly prefers being able to create something with his own two hands over killing.) 

the relationship life stage is domestic bliss (with an excruciating amount of annoying married “it was your turn to do the dishes; you forgot to write this on the grocery list, dumbass; you said you’d do the laundry yesterday!” bickering)

extremely important that they sound like they hate each other. all of them are very quiet about affection, and their eqs are all collectively shit enough that they would be unwilling to discuss whenever they cross a relationship milestone, such as holding hands, sharing a bed, or saying they care for one another aloud. but this ends up working in their favor, as they’re on the same, emotionally inept “i would actually rather strip in public and get arrested for public indecency than talk about my feelings” brainwave, so it doesn’t matter that they don’t talk about it

every time people write them as anything but the codependent, emotionally incompetent, bitchless trio of dumbasses they are, a part of me dies a little inside.

btw: they are in an ace relationship. either that or qprs. they are all in some shade of love with each other, whether it be platonic or romantic. han sooyoung is a lesbian.

thank you for listening to my tedtalk

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Hi! Another member of the Aro/Ace star wars club! Funnily, the way my sexuality relates to star wars is the complete opposite from you. I'm very neutral on shipping most of the time. And even when I do ship something, it's rarely enough for me to dedicate to it like you do for Obikin. It also never registered to me about the Jedi Order being similar to aro culture. I never thought of it that way, although the Order would still ban QPRs.

Hi!  I’m finding all these different ways of relating to Star Wars through the aro/ace SW club to be a delight to me!  I’m glad for it as well because I think, when I was younger, I could have really used a discussion that showed that aro/ace doesn’t have to be a one-size-fits-all kind of thing, especially in terms of things like, “Well, I like romantic stories?  I guess I can’t be aro, then?” and how some people not caring for romantic stories or shipping is how they intersect their SW fandom with their being on the aro/ace spectrum, that sometimes people work one way, sometimes they work another way, and there’s probably a thousand more ways these things can overlap or even not overlap. I do think I agree that the Jedi would say you have to choose between a QPR and the commitment you made to the Order, because it’s not really about the romantic feelings, it’s about the things you’ll choose when you slide into caring about someone more than anything else.  If you would burn down the galaxy for this person you loved, it’s not about whether you’re romantically in love with them or having sex with them, it’s about the things you would do, especially with someone who has level 100 psychic space wizard powers and the granted authority the Jedi are given. It’s like with Rael and Fanry--he’s not romantically in love with her, but he’s willing to fuck over a million lives on Pijal because he’s let his feelings about her cloud his judgement. In contrast, Obi-Wan had romantic feelings for Satine, but he chose the Jedi Order, he respected and valued their values enough to say, “If I embrace this relationship, I cannot be a Jedi, even when I believe in their principles.”, ie, he would have left the Jedi Order for her.  And this is never treated as bad, by the narrative or the other Jedi, only with sympathy that this is difficult for him to balance when he’s thrown into the whole shitshow on Mandalore. And, as many problems as I have with Obi-Wan having a love interest (mostly because so many viewed it as a way to “humanize” him and THAT’S KIND OF THE PROBLEM WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, IN HOW ARO/ACE PEOPLE ARE TREATED), I don’t see his feelings as taking away from viewing the Jedi Order through the lens of aro culture and finding value in that for a lot of people! That sometimes some Jedi may have a desire for romantic or sexual relationships, but that they seem to be the outlier, rather than the other way around, and the things they cherish and value as being above romantic/sexual wants (even if they experience those wants) are ones that aro/ace people often value as well.  That the vast majority of Jedi we see just don’t seem interested and they have these other things in their lives that fulfill them and I love that. It’s why the whole “it’s about who/what you’re committed to” that the Jedi have never struck me as being bad, because I know a lot of kind, good, wonderful aro/ace spectrum people who value the same things.  It’s hardly universal, as you talk about, you’re differing almost entirely to the opposite from me in how your aro/ace aspects intersect with your experiences in SW fandom!  There are going to be plenty of aro/ace people who don’t vibe with this discussion at all.  But there are a ton of us who do and I really have found so much value in getting to interact with all of us, no matter where we fall on that spectrum and intersection.  ♥