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mechaseraph · 6 months
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No, but the more I watch classic Conan the more I go "oh hey yea this is how humans in sonic world should look!". The fact that X seems to had bunch of overlapping staff with cone only points more to it for me. You can put this child next to Sonic and nothing would looks stylistically out of place to me
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Honey The Cat! This is a bit of a niche pick, but I can roll with it. Fun fact about this one, she's only kind of a Sonic character, she's more like a fursona for Honey from Fighting Vipers! In fact, if I remember correctly, the engine for Sonic The Fighters was built off of the one for Fighting Vipers- that being the reason Honey was originally meant to be implemented as a secret character, only to be scrapped, fully functional, until the console re-release, where she was made fully, legitimately playable. All that aside, her origin might help us answer-
Can you fuck Honey The Cat?
Hey, that's our third cat in a row!
First, I must warn that I am not very well versed in Archie content, which is where this character got most of her content. Her game of origin has pretty much no character dialogue whatsoever, and she only gets a few non-speaking cameos in IDW. So, I will mostly be looking around online for potential relevant information.
Let's start with solely Sonic-related information first. We'll look at Fighting Vipers later.
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In Archie, apparently she's the founder and CEO of a clothing and accessories company- although considering this is Archie we're talking about, this isn't that particularly good of an indicator of age. This could very much be a Seto Kaiba situation where a character, by simple cartoon/anime logic, is a CEO of a company at an unreasonably young age. Her behavior also leaves very little to be gathered about her age- not particularly childlike, but not exactly all that mature either. From behavior alone, she could be anywhere from a teenager to a young adult.
So, that doesn't exactly help. Let's look at her human counterpart from Fighting Vipers for help!
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In Fighting Vipers 1, she's listed as 16 years old- which is... Very, very concerning considering the contents of this game! As both her armor and skirt are breakable. Incredibly creepy behavior from Sega aside, this isn't the only game where she appears; as Fighting Vipers got a sequel! In fact...
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Said sequel takes place 2 years after the original game, placing Honey (the human) at 18 years old. Problem solved, right? Well...
There's a bit of a release date problem here.
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As you can see here, Fighting Vipers 2 only released after Sonic The Fighters- so, Honey The Cat is based on the 16 year old Honey from Fighting Vipers. If we're to assume that they share the same age, that places Honey firmly at 16 years old at the time of Sonic The Fighters.
Although... We've got to account for the fact that STF is a classic series game. And as of the release of Sonic Origins, the classic series is, in fact, set in the past. No, it's not an alternate/parallel universe, fuck off Ken Pontac.
So, if Honey were to appear in a modern game, logically, she should be an adult- by how much is unclear, but she could easily be around the 20 range.
So, if it's game Honey we're talking about, unless they aged her down for STF, she should, in fact, be fuckable.
As for Archie, though... I'm unsure. The arc she appears in is an adaptation of Sonic The FIghters- the game where she was presumably 16. Again, her position as CEO doesn't exactly change much here, and if she was 16, that'd put her solidly around the same age range as all the other post-SGW characters that aren't outright children. Much like anything Archie-related, it's a mess.
So, with all that considered, from the perspective of both the games and comics-
Can you fuck Honey The Cat?
Well... I'd be cautious. Unless there's confirmation from Ian Flynn or someone else who wrote for her and is a reliable source, and unless she appears in a modern game, it's a bit of a risky endeavor. Sure, we can assume she's 16 during her debut game, a classic series game, but there's no guarantee whatsoever. She could have aged down, they could have just not thought of her age, it's all rather unclear.
So, until we get confirmation one way or the other, which we likely never will considering the nicheness of this character, it's about a 50/50, and a very unlikely chance for Archie, where she actually gets some personality and her own identity.
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Verdict;
Proceed at your own discretion.
There's a chance you can fuck her, but there's also a chance she is, in fact, a minor, much like the character she was based on at the time of her creation. Really, there's too little to say for sure. I probably won't judge you if you go for it, but there's also more than enough reason for someone to want to steer clear.
This is possibly our most complicated case thus far!
... Thus far.
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thankskenpenders · 4 years
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So, interesting news I'm sure someone has already asked about but I'll mention it anyway. Apparently an insider at Sega just confirmed that while Wild Brain owns the rights to Satam, Sega of America actually DOES have the rights to the characters created for it including Sally and the other Freedom Fighters, and by proxy their original Archie incarnations too, while Archie owns the reboot versions (Their designs specifically). SOA doesn't have plans for them, but they CAN use them in stuff.
So yeah, this is the gist of it, but here’s the full message from someone at Sega of Europe’s licensing department. This confirms what’s been widely speculated for a long time
Basically, the Freedom Fighters could still be used in new Sonic media, if Sega allowed it. It’s just their post-reboot designs that are off limits for whatever reason. But if they were to come back with older designs (or, more likely, brand new ones), it’d be fair game
The big hurdle, as always, is getting Sega’s permission. Sega as a corporation doesn’t care about these characters or consider them an important part of the Sonic brand, and I wouldn’t be surprised if all the drama at Archie had soured their opinion on the Freedom Fighters in recent years. And while we might care about them, they’re still somewhat obscure compared to the cast of the games (especially in other parts of the world that didn’t get SatAM or the Archie comics). I definitely would not expect Sally or Bunnie to appear in any of the games, aside from maybe a cameo in the mobile games like what Tangle and Whisper got if they’re feeling extremely generous
But the comic crew has been pushing for the Freedom Fighters to appear in some form in the IDW comics this whole time. And I still think there’s a small chance that’ll happen someday, given how important the characters are to the history of the comics. I’m not expecting it to happen anytime soon, but if we’re really lucky then maybe in five years IDW’s Sonic will meet a new incarnation of the team, and they’ll join the supporting cast as another allied team like the Chaotix that gets to help out every now and then. (They are definitely not going to come back and usurp Tangle and Whisper’s roles as IDW’s flagship heroes, that’s for sure. Nor would I want that.) Or maybe they’ll let Ian do a Classic Sonic miniseries featuring the Knothole crew. Or something like that. I dunno. It’s still a long shot, and I’m not holding my breath, but it’s not impossible
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