#BUT I will say one thing shondaland does that deserves credit is they allow their female characters to be as flawed and messy and complex
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#it is interesting how many fans want kate to be a complex character with flaws but also need to paint her#as the perfect selfless victim of her family in order to pretend that she made no mistakes#rather than acknowledging the little agency she had in the show#people will claim they want messy female characters and as soon as they get them will insisting their mistakes were someone else's fault#and i know a large part of this is because fandom is so worried about the hate and racism and misogyny that is/could be thrown at kate that#they need to remove any flaws that kate has and put her on a pedestal which is boring and a little dehumanising in order to protect her from#that hate and sexism and misogyny#but it makes kate a duller less interesting character and it takes away any complexity that the writers gave her#and look i have many criticisms of shondaland and their writing of kate and edwina who both weren't that well written#BUT I will say one thing shondaland does that deserves credit is they allow their female characters to be as flawed and messy and complex#as their male characters#and frankly removing kate's messiness to defend her and make her more palatable is frankly just uninteresting#If you can understand that Edwina was wrong for the half sister line you can understand that kate was in the wrong when she lied and in ep 5#It is interesting how many kate fans will insist on her being a complex female character while simultaneously needing to paint Kate as#its not rocket science#I also find it funny that pple who do this are annoyed that no one blames anthony#and yet they too do not blame anthony#instead write pages and pages of meta blaming edwina for everything and constantly calling her 1/4 white#disliking edwina is fine but its telling that people cannot do this without simultaneously white washing her identity as an indian woman#oml this got long#my 3 am ramblings#because i see so much stupid shit on my dash despite my best efforts to prevent it
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