#Dumdum cult

[etanevy]

so i'm reading the rehabilitation of death fanfic by bamsata and it took me up until chapter 3 to realize that the reason why everything tastes rotten to narinder is probably related to his "rot touch" power .......i don't know why it took me so long to understand this but golly gee do i feel like an idiot xD

[mostlysignssomeportents]

$100 billion later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck

Autonomous vehicles were always a shell-game. The last time I wrote about them was a year ago, when Uber declared massive losses. Uber’s profitability story was always, “Sure, we’re losing money now, but once we create self-driving cars, we can fire our drivers and make a bundle.”

https://pluralistic.net/2020/09/30/death-to-all-monopoly/#pogo-stick-problem

But Uber never came close to building an AV. After blowing $2.5b, the company invented a car whose mean-distance-to-fatal-crash was half a mile. Uber had to pay another company — $400 million! — to take the self-driving unit off its hands.

It’s tempting to say that Uber just deluded itself into thinking that AVs were a viable, near-term technology. But $2.5b was a bargain, because it allowed the company’s original investors (notably the Saudi royals) to offload their Uber shares on credulous suckers when the company IPOed.

Likewise Tesla, a company that has promised fully self-driving autonomous vehicles “within two years” for more than a decade. The story that Teslas will someday drive themselves is key to attracting retail investors to the company.

Tesla’s overvaluation isn’t solely a product of the cult of personality around Musk, nor is it just that its investors can’t read a balance-sheet and so miss the fact that the company is reliant upon selling the carbon-credits that allow gas-guzzling SUVs to fill America’s streets.

Key to Tesla’s claims to eventual profitability was that AVs would overcome geometry itself, and end the Red Queen’s Race whereby adding more cars to the road means you need more roads, which means everything gets farther apart, which means you need more cars — lather, rinse, repeat.

Geometry hates cars, but Elon Musk hates public transit (he says you might end up seated next to “a serial killer”). So Musk spun this story where tightly orchestrated AVs would best geometry and create big cities served speedy, individualized private vehicles. You could even make passive income from your Tesla, turning it over to drive strangers (including, presumably, serial killers?) around as a taxicab.

But Teslas are no closer to full self-driving than Ubers. In fact, no one has come close to making an AV. In a characteristically brilliant and scorching article for Bloomberg, Max Chafkin takes stock of the failed AV project:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-10-06/even-after-100-billion-self-driving-cars-are-going-nowhere

Chafkin calculates that the global R&D budget for AVs has now exceeded $100 billion, and demonstrates that we have next to nothing to show for it, and that whatever you think you know about AV success is just spin, hype and bullshit.

Take the much-vaunted terribleness of human drivers, which the AV industry likes to tout. It’s true that the other dumdums on the road cutting you off and changing lanes without their turn-signals are pretty bad drivers, but actual, professional drivers are amazing. The average school-bus driver clocks up 500 million miles without a fatal crash (but of course, bus drivers are part of the public transit system).

Even dopes like you and me are better than you may think — while cars do kill the shit out of Americans, it’s because Americans drive so goddamned much. US traffic deaths are a mere one per 100 million miles driven, and most of those deaths are due to recklessness, not inability. Drunks, speeders, texters and sleepy drivers cause traffic fatalities — they may be skilled drivers, but they are also reckless.

But even the most reckless driver is safer than a driverless car, which “lasts a few seconds before crapping out.” The best robot drivers are Waymos, which mostly operate in the sunbelt, “because they still can’t handle weather patterns trickier than Partly Cloudy.”

Waymo claims to have driven 20m miles — that is, 4% of the distance we’d expect a human school-bus driver to go before having a fatal wreck. Tesla, meanwhile, has stopped even reporting how many miles its autopilot has mananged on public roads. The last time it disclosed, in 2019, the total was zero.

Using “deep learning” to solve the problems of self-driving cars is a dead-end. As NYU psych prof Gary Marcus told Chafkin, “deep learning is something similar to memorization…It only works if the situations are sufficiently akin.”

Which is why self-driving cars are so useless when they come up against something unexpected — human drivers weaving through traffic, cyclists, an eagle, a drone, a low-flying plane, a deer, even some pigeons on the road.

Self-driving car huxters call this “the pogo-stick problem” — as in “you never can tell when someone will try to cross the road on a pogo-stick.” They propose coming up with strict rules for humans to make life easier for robots.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/3/17530232/self-driving-ai-winter-full-autonomy-waymo-tesla-uber

But as stupid as this is, it’s even stupider than it appears at first blush. It’s not that AVs are confused by pogo sticks — they’re confused by shadowsand clouds and squirrels. They’re confused by left turns that are a little different than the last left turn they tried.

If you’ve been thinking that AVs were right around the corner, don’t feel too foolish. The AV companies have certainly acted like they believed their own bullshit. Chafkin reminds us of the high-stakes litigation when AV engineer Anthony Levandowski left Google for Uber and was sued for stealing trade secrets.

The result was millions in fines (Levandowski declared bankruptcy) and even a prison sentence for Levandowski (Trump pardoned him, seemingly at the behest of Peter Thiel and other Trumpist tech cronies). Why would companies go to all that trouble if they weren’t serious about their own claims?

It’s possible that they are, but that doesn’t mean we have to take those claims at face-value ourselves. Companies often get high on their own supplies. The litigation over Levandowski can be thought of as a species of criti-hype, Lee Vinsel’s extraordinarily useful term for criticism that serves to bolster the claims of its target:

https://pluralistic.net/2021/02/02/euthanize-rentiers/#dont-believe-the-hype

Another example of criti-hype: the claims about the risks of ubiquitous drone delivery — which, like AVs, is half-bullshit, half self-delusion:

https://pluralistic.net/2021/08/05/comprehensive-sex-ed/#droned

Today, Levandowski has scaled back his plans to build autonomous vehicles. Instead, he’s built autonomous dump-trucks that never leave a literal sandbox, and trundle back and forth on the same road all day, moving rocks from a pit to a crusher.

$100 billion later, that’s what the AV market has produced.

Image:

Cryteria (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HAL9000.svg

CC BY 3.0: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en

Gartner (modified): https://www.gartner.com/en/research/methodologies/gartner-hype-cycle

[Image ID: A chart illustrating the Gartner hype-cycle; racing down the slope from the 'peak of inflated expectations' to the 'trough of disillusionment' is the staring eye of HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey, chased by speed-lines.]

[silver-wield]

Ain’t no way an actual game writer made something so cringe worthy😂

Hilarious how they completely invalidate Tifas role and she might be able to be the princess 😂😂

Have people forgotten ToTP? Tifa's resolution? The literal opening to the game where Cloud is all sad thinking about Tifa? Do y'all really think he'd put the walking dead in Cloud and Tifa's special place? Have you all been drinking out the cult's trough?

Toriyama is the loser who'd write that cringe shit, but thankfully Nojima has rewrite options and that's in his contract. He controls the script.

He wrote Cloud and Tifa as lovers. Not that dumdum gross HC. He doesn't even acknowledge it on social media let alone in his work.

[iris-polaris]

bear of the ice FAQ

Answers To Your Most Stinky Questions

↓ keep reading you Mongrel ↓

🌠 Are you really a bear?

yes, in the same way Calliope Mori is really the Grim Reaper.

🌠 Are you really a witch?

yes, just like you are Presumably a human.

🌠 Do you really eat crystals?

what Else would you do with them. dummy

🌠 If you're really a bear, how are you talking to us?

shooting star bonked me in the noggin a few Years back. turned me temporarily Human. long story. one day i'll Return to Bear but for now i have to be Monke. that is why my Oshi mark is a 🌠. (sometimes i Return to Bear on the full moon, though)

🌠 So this is like a role-play account?

insofar as anyone's life is a "role-play account"

🌠 What do you stream?

RPG, sim, and puzzle games. educational streams on Nature, self-help Skills & witchcraft. horoscopes. tarot and rune Readings. art. live Rituals. just chatting streams about Conspiracies, Cults, and the Paranormal.

🌠 So you're a streamer. What else do you do?

mixed media/collage Art. divination. storytelling. writing. music-making. you Know.

🌠 Where do you live?

at a Zoo in the US southeast. pretty nice. keepers are Annoying, but what can you do about Humans.

🌠 Why do you type like that?

like What

🌠 Did you ever go to school?

yes? like most Polar Bears. if you mean University, i have two degrees in Polar Bear Poetry: one bachelors, one masters.

🌠 What is your witchy path?

eclectic. i take Bits and pieces from everything.

🌠 What kind of witchy skills do you have?

astrology and tarot-reading, Mostly. but i dabble in it all

🌠 Who is "Mate-chan"?

my wife, Demeter (aka Demi) Polaris. also bear-turned-human. i think she likes it Though.

🌠 Wait, but you flirt on stream sometimes.

that is not a Question. ask a question. i don't have Time for this

🌠 Wait, but you flirt on stream sometimes?

jealousy is not known among Polar Bears except about food

🌠 Who is "Manager Bunny"?

...my Manager. who is a Bunny. are you Bereft of neurons

🌠 Who are "Mama Faerieko" and "Mama Sulia"?

they made me! well. mama bear and papa bear Consulted them to make me. you can find Faerieko here and Sulia here. shower them with Support and Love or i'll flat out just Punch your head

🌠 Who are the "cats of the ice"?

bitchy, dumdum, and chubby, my 3 cats. chubs is a Big Fat Black Cat. dumdum is a little grey and white Idiot baby. bitchy is a Calico bastard.

🌠 Who is "Mop"?

the Dog of the Ice. he is a Precious Boy who is some kind of spaniel mix. you can hear him Boofing in the background of many streams.

🌠 Who is "Auntie Bear"?

my Aunt. Mate-chan and i live with her in her Cave. she often cooks us lovely Dinners.

✨ more to be added at a Future Date ✨

[cool-island-songs]

for the otp ask game: 18, 20, 32 for creek :3

thank you thank you!!! (from this ask game)

18. Which of the two is the most gullible?

This one's tough. They're both pretty stupid

Craig stupid:

joins Butters' DMV cult without a second thought

look at his dumdum face when Cartman is telling them about the Jewpacabra

even butters hasn't taking the bait yet. c'mon craig...

3. gets a fraction wrong one time (not rly relevant but never 4get)

Tweek stupid:

is he serious right now???

They're both naive, but I'm going with Tweek because, while Craig is easily manipulable, Tweek wants to believe the best in people and is pretty sheltered. Also if you think about Craig's plan in Tweek x Craig, it's a terrible plan, but Tweek doesn't even have one. And he's dumb enough to go along with Craig's which.. I mean these guys don't know anything about anything. They're some dumdums alright

20. Who’s more likely to get into a bar fight?

Craig. Tweek is scrappy and on the right cocktail of drugs/booze/no sleep might unwisely start a bar fight, but Craig is a little more reckless with his face/fucked-up teeth. He leads with his hard head in TFBW, with his low brains and high brawn

Honestly, Tweek might be more likely to win one though. I bet he fights dirty. I bet he bites. Plus if he's all speeded up, he's probably more alert than the drunk(s) he's fighting

Also I feel Craig is more likely to say something dickish drunk (though I do have a headcanon that drunk Tweek is very snobby about music)

32. Who’s the first to apologize?

This is another tough one because the TFBW "break-up" is basically predicated upon their mutual unwillingness to apologize first. I think as adults, they're both still stubborn, but Tweek is more likely to actually say the words "I'm sorry" first whereas Craig might favor conciliatory gestures so he doesn't have to say it

I think there are versions of Tweek that would be a lot less willing to concede he was wrong, and vice versa with Craig, but generally speaking, Tweek feels wronged easily but will also be quick to say "I'm to blame for all of this!" "This is all my fault!" etc.

[olderthannetfic]

like in general i find the idea of "what if x but x character did the entirely logical thing in this situation" amusing but in practice i've only ever seen maybe 5 fics like that on the entire internet (i've literally seen twice as many opinion pieces on why the author of the essay thinks that concept is inherently problematic), and every single one of them had the same unshakeable unsettling feeling of being a cult recruitment drive secretly run by fucking sargon of akkhad or some shit.

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That's because most of them mistake shit like the original canon attempting to intentionally depict emotionally-plausible but unwise human behavior for The Author Of Canon Is A Big Dumdum Who Doesn't Understand This Character Is Being Foolish, Not Like Logical And Superior Me.

Dealing with Dragons was a whole novel of "But what if the princess were sensible?" Plenty of fantasy novels are based around the idea of taking fantasy cliches and inserting another type of character with another personality into them.

It's certainly possible to write this stuff without sounding like a sociopathic robot, but you have to actually understand both human behavior and art.

[restlessmuseum]

Of the Explanatory Notes this is the updated list: initially the name be collaborative, envy the quality of being diplomatic, the duo solidified, relabeled in turn, the intimate palette expanded, the debut ivory towered, the listener integral and prominent, doom trumpeting, vision complete, inferno more structured, the calligrapher of great tumult & hammering, what I am doing here the answer to the wrong question, packs features, quotations abundant, the end of a long journey long, assholes ahead, the forces dynamic, the car clean, gardens watered, all the Eurydices one simplex Electra, the small letters capital, lake forgotten, black figures in a series, the interpretation well-established, cult of youth in three stages, the source another, warehouse sweet warehouse, the hive mind on stilts, there here, the North Pole miscovered, brother sister, daughter wife, the protagonist with & without presentations, the best route without old age, the last judgement last but one, the holy woman at the tomb, but the birdcall dumdum, the fun house smokescreen, the ice clinking in the cocktail glass ding ding, the cock between the legs sob sob, deference strenuous & unable, the "deferance" coined by me, dogma logical, the loss of channels to grieve, der Krieg tired, the remembrance collective and the collective remembering, the martyrdom attentive, the enthusiasm got ready, edges to cling to contemplative of the interior, the sign you are looking for this, madness by the missing of labyrinthine, an eye who burns from its wick and a candleholder for me, neurons a mirror, the voids bloodproof (red to keep hidden), the exile within the polity, circuses on a thin glacier, the three Parcae six to optimize, my words off the game one by one because you did say first, the check marks (our little game is almost overwhelmed), the pronunciation received, cerebrum cerebellum, the auditorium lights, a possible introspection with glass walls and windows, the nouns all epicene, this exhausting list never enough, ropes of lenght & kind with the hand of the holder, the tertiary to relinquish the world, etymology do case law, the willance work worst, the low bulb of the hourglass the promised land, glaucoma the legacy, hind legs front, God the tinnitus, restlessness the copy of a Greek sovereign, into the pits of extreme courtesy & flattery the overeducation in good faith, probitas in eligendo, in vigilando (laudo et ardeo), one of the best things in life the bestest, abduction the natural evolution of our horizons, the damned being plunged into them play their part and do it damned well, the cream crammed, a quite different course pursuing sun & moon, the piteous pithecus switch of places the sunny funny Nietzschean Game of the Goose, sand the spice, I'm one of the good guys incomplete the national anthem, almost done the work, I'm about to see the end my big-eyed my great myopia, silence just another echo, (reading however always difficult) & the use of brackets a loophole, a small green dot the assurance of your presence, anatomy of water the same as mine, the tête-à-tête among the relationship's goals, the one down the two to come, wow all, the mind of my immovable body the dusty fast rollercoaster from which I am falling immovable up & other. Explanatory Notes don't explain anything. We're actually fine. We forget all the detexted stuff and only remember two words: yes and the rest of the bony glossary. Main role is that way. Procedit.

[xxwitchhouse-pabxx-blog]

Running

   // A horror-drabble I’ve written. About Dadsona caught in the web of the cult ending. //

The entrance through the tunnel was his only way out. And God, his heart was beating in his chest, deafening him up to the point where his pulsating heart was out voicing his own hurried footsteps on the cold, hard and wet ground.

     Amanda  

 The only thought that still remained in his mind as everything else felt numb. He'd been running. For days, weeks or even years. He didn't know. How could he? Time seemed irrelevant in the place he was in.

 Time seemed to run by and at the same time crawl so unbearably slowly at his side.

     Amanda.. Please be okay..  

 He could feel his own sweat running down his cheeks. Or maybe it was tears. With his senses numb and his body at the verge of breaking down, collapsing and rotting on the floor, he didn't know the difference anymore.

 In the corner of his eyes: shadows, moving beings in the dark with glowing eyes, waiting just for the right moment to claw into him.

If it would have only been the Dover Ghost.

     Please..  

“Why are you running, my dear?”

     Please..  

“There's no use. And you know that much.”

 Without any warning something emerged from the shadows up front, pale as a corpse with dark rings around it's eyes. The man stopped right before he would get any closer to that monster blocking his way.

 “Get away from me!”, his voice was hoarse as he stumbled backwards with each step this monster took towards him. A faint light shining around a corner just behind the monster. Teasing. Mocking.

 An Exit.

     No. NO!  

     So close! I have been so close!  

“You really think so, did you? Ha. How pathetic. I have been following you. Ever since you've been running. Ever since you felt the exhaustion in your bones. Ever since you felt something watching you from afar. And you really think I would let you leave like that?” The monster in a man's skin flicked it's tongue, annoyed. And just with a swift motion of his hand, the light vanished.

     NO!!  

“Look around you. Notice something, dumdum ?”, the blonde monster opened it's arm's, gesturing around the dark place. And with that, the man's heart skipped a beat, leaving him breathless as he realized just where he was. The monster smiled faintly.

 “How.. How can that be?! No! This.. This can't be!”, desperation shivering in the man's words as he turned around himself. His breathing heavy, his throat tight and his eyes opened wide. His legs gave in and soon he found himself kneeling on the ground, his eyes fixed on the markings on the wall.

 “The room you started off in, yes.”, ghostly cold fingers were creeping on his neck, cupping his chin as he could feel hot and shaking breath on his ear. A low chuckle. “Must be shocking, huh? Running for so long and yet getting nowhere. But isn't that what you've always done, Hm?      Daddy?”  

 A hug from behind. The monster was hugging him. Soft and yet so threatening. “You can't leave. But I believe I told you that already. Didn't I? Maybe you didn't understand. You really are stupid.”

 “A-Amanda..”, the man breathed out, but softly a cold hand covered his mouth, shushing him, just like the voice in his ear.

 “Shh.. Don't think. I won't do anything to her, if she stays out of my way. If it's not necessary that is.”, the amusement in the monsters voice, the voice he grew to love, made him shiver under the touch. An unbearable fear creeping in his chest as he felt yet more tears in his eyes. Maybe it was all for nothing.

     Please, be safe Amanda.  

     Please… just be okay.  

[silver-wield]

Hi Silver, why do some Cloti's use #DokiDokiCult? Does Doki Doki come from a mistranslation or something? Much appreciated!

It's to do with a comment in the material ulti plus from the slide scene that says Cloud's heart goes doki doki, and those dumdums assigned a romantic emotive to it despite doki doki literally being onomatopoeia like thud, thump or bang bang. For clarity, even Cody said in interviews Cloud is anxious in that scene. It's not romantic, and it happens in relation to Zack's name, not aerith.

They put it all over their handles and shit on twitter and then it turned out there's asset files in chapter 3 of Remake literally labelled cloud doki doki, tifa doki doki and the scenes are only between Cloud and Tifa, so we started taking the piss and calling them the doki doki cult, which usually gets shortened to ddc because of word limits.

[silver-wield]

That m*rgot person used to be a Cloti right? wtf happened, if she used to ship them why is she so delusional about the kiss? has she been brainwashed by the cult leader lmao

She got sucked into her own desperation of wanting to fuck Cloud, got massively jealous of Tifa for being the one with Cloud and decided she had more chance of staying deluded if she went the dumdum route.

The dumdums don't like her either. Literally nobody in the entire fandom wants anything to do with her.

[silver-wield]

I just saw someone who celebrated loren as the new song's singer and compared the "parallels" of such scenes from the trailer framing and I don't know if they watched the movie but that wasn't a romantic scene but to show how much of a douchebag the mc was because he was cheating on his damn wife whom he has a child with. Unfortunately romanticized, but really SE? Are we going to see Tifa look at cloud feeling all hopeless as well (like the wife in the film)? No joking man, where the heck are they going with this direction? Are they really about to make people actually hate these characters or something? That being said, you're right wtf how does that voice suit her , it's too darn low and she never sang or alluded to being able to sing. Lmao who the heck is this? I don't want a telenovela but a good ass storytelling.

You saw the cult dumdum squealing over the greatest showman where Hugh Jackman's character emotionally cheats on his wife with some stupid opera singer, so yeh, that's the kinda shit they think is romantic, even though in that film he goes back to his wife.

They ain't watched the film. They watched the trailer, which doesn't show the truth.

Istg if it's not revealed she's lip syncing I'm gonna have to mute my TV. There's only so much disbelief I can suspend, and that being her actual singing voice is a giant step further into cringe than I'm able to take. At least Maaya can sing for herself so anyone playing in JP won't have to deal with that terrible match up.

[silver-wield]

I don't know why the Clerith fans keep engaging in this masochistic practice of false hope when it comes to Aerith's death. I know the cult doesn't follow dev interviews or Ultis(because they won't look at anything that disproves their delusions, which is practically all canon material lol) but the last trailer telegraphed rather explicitly that she's still going to become a dead Aerith-kebab. The only possible difference is that Zack's spirit is probably going to be there when it happens and escort her to the Lifestream after she gets shanked by Sephiroth.

Literally Nomura stating the person who dies is gonna stay dead.

Aerith is gonna die. That's a fact. And she'll stay dead.

What's super amusing is those dumdums went around screaming about a fist bump that was a pic in the article but they didn't read the article. I swear they're all two year olds and totally illiterate.

[silver-wield]

To be honest, i dont get it why some people always say that Aerith is the one who changes Cloud in the OG or Remake. Maybe OG players can easily take away Cloud & Aerith's interaction as him coming out of his shell specially when comparing it w/ he's interaction w/ Avalanche earlier in the game. He really was a standoffish to Avalanche & Tifa. Also take into consideration that the devs primary goal in the OG is for the player (as Cloud) to really build that connection with Aerith 1st since she died halfway thru the game thus delaying he's character development with the other characters.

In the Remake, some said that only in chapter 8, when Cloud's with Aerith he begins to change (opening his self more, laughing, joking w/ Aerith, doing jobs for fun). In my opinion its not the case at all. Cloud during chapter 8 interacts w/ Aerith the same way he did with the Avalanche in chapter 4.

With Aerith he's awkward, trying his best to act cool, even got angry with her when she assumed she knows him. He didn't open up to her about anything (who he gave the flower to, what group he's w/, etc.). He didn't speak to her 1st or initiate conversation. He didn't respond to her most of the time when she's telling him something about her. He's laugh came out as sarcastic. Aerith was snarky to him & so he's returning the favor. The majority of the side quests in chapter 8 was for the children, Ms. Follia, scared man & an old man ( w/c Cloud managed to pissed off in the end when asked for higher pay) so he's trying he's best to be less rude.

During the language of the flower, in the beginning he's about to walkaway but then came back to apply to Aerith what he learned from Marle in chapter 3 w/c is to learn to listen.

During the price of strength, he had a vision that stirred emotion from him that he didn't fully understand yet. That's not coming out of his shell either.

The high five scene is some sort of a gateway that needed to perform, either way it was still awkward for him.

The playground scene he lowered he's guard a little bit coz Aerith is asking him about another soldier.

The farewell scene its still awkward for him while she's all flirty. & him offering to take her back is all he's soldier mode.

Since i didn't play the OG & I'm basing only on Remake, i think the only time that Cloud expressed his soft side & slightly came out of his shell was during:

1. Chapter 4 when he told Tifa that he will stay in Midgar, he was very relax here & even the tone of his voice when talking to Tifa, there's no one to compare it to.

2. In chapter 14 if you get Tifa'resolution.

3. In the simulator when he saw the clone/Sephiroth stabbed Tifa, that emotion really screamed fear!

Anyways, I'm just saying that its wrong to say that Aerith changed him or taught him to come out of his shell. Not when he's consistently playing soldier with her the whole time & not when Aerith is the one who indulge he's soldier persona the most. She didn't change him, she's encouraged him to be something he's not.

On the contrary Aerith is actually the one who further surpressed Clouds truself.

I'm just saying 😄😅

Nojima literally says that Cloud begins to change around the avalanche derps first. It's honestly just those morons delusions that make them ignore everything before chapter 8 and act like their Dismantled dreams are coming true 🤦‍♀️

Cloud doesn't laugh in the entire game, so anybody who says he does is a liar who didn't play it. He sighs, scoffs, makes derisive snorts. He doesn't laugh. Not even mockingly.

The thing about the cult is none of them have played. They watch isolated clips on YouTube and act like that's as good as actually playing. I don't think any of them even like gaming. At best I saw the dumdum queen talking about harvest moon. I haven't seen any of them talk about any other games. They're just trolls.

[silver-wield]

You know, I always preferred Tifa and understood her as the canon love interest. But I never disliked Aerith and could see some elements of Clerith working (in an AU - because canon wise it's Cloti all the way down) so some time back I tried to join a Clerith group who "welcomed multi-shippers". Within a week I got bitched out because I refused to accept their narrative of Tifa being a manipulative woman, strong-arming Cloud into doing what she wants. Because I refused to back down I was bullied and eventually just plain ostracized and made to feel like a piece of shit, so much so that the only sensible thing to do was for me to voluntarily leave the group - which I now realize is what they wanted because if they kicked me they wouldn't have a punching bag and they wouldn't be able to play innocent as easily. I liked Aerith. I could, in a way, support Clerith just fine. But Clerith shippers made me grow to dislike both. I wonder how many others they've thoroughly pushed from liking or being indifferent into hatred due to their bullshittery? Anyway, I just wanted to share. Hope you don't mind.

I'm sorry you had to go through that. When I was first getting into the fandom I innocently asked the Tumblr community what it was that made them think their deluded crackship was canon. Obvs I didn't phrase it that way because I was still being nice to those dumdums at that point, and I got savaged by calli for "daring to cross tag".

That's how they treated a total noob who just asked a question. I had no idea there was even a ship war because, ykno, the plot is fucking obvious, and I got harassed by the cult until I blocked them. That was on Tumblr. The second I joined twitter they blocked me, but they still talk about me almost as much as they do Tifa.

When all people care about is being right they need to control the flow of information. Anybody who doesn't go along with them is the enemy and they'll drive them out to protect their toxic waste dump. That's why they treated you like that. You didn't agree with their disgusting interpretation of Tifa because it wasn't canon. You challenged their world view and if you stuck around you could make others realise their lies are gross and not even close to canon. Once that happens it all falls apart for them.

You shouldn't feel bad about not hanging with a bunch of assholes who were bullying you. Fandom is meant to be fun, but the ffvii fandom is a flaming trashpile.😡😮‍💨

[silver-wield]

supernerd tweeted that Hamaguchi fav characters are Cloud and Aerith so basically he's a Clerith so the next two parts will be all Ca?

That's not what Hamaguchi said. He's also just the director. Nojima is the writer, Nomura is Hamaguchi's direct superior as creative director and Kitase is the producer.

For people who don't understand how hierarchy works, the director has to answer to those people I just listed because they're literally his bosses. He doesn't get to do what he wants because he's directing. He has to follow the script.

Hamaguchi could have a dumdum tattoo and that won't stop Nojima writing cloti because cloti is part of the plot while the dumdum bs never existed outside of someone's fanfiction.

But to address the lie, what Hamaguchi actually said was he likes all the characters and his favourite part of Midgar was the rooftops because he felt players got to experience the scope of Midgar with the plates above, the wall in the distance and the midline perspective rather than being on the ground like locations before that point.

In future plz don't come to me spouting bullshit some clerith cult asshat has told you. It will literally be a lie because they don't know what the truth is.

[silver-wield]

https://x.com/aerithcloud3/status/1816618931013943355?s=46&t=j1JVABmzg30BYzGQ7Ieczg

I realized u have a stalker that is obsessed with u and your blog. I know u don’t care but knowing she’s mentally nuts I’d let u know. I was blocking a Cloud fake fanboy who harasses cloti and that post was retweeted by him and the cult. We all got stalkers and wish we can block them all!!!

She's an idiot. Imagine thinking that reply means aerith will have a "big role".

Dumbass dumdum stalker, the bitch is dead. Shut the fuck up and stop stalking me. Get a life. Go have a bath. Touch grass. Find a real person and get laid. Stop obsessing over a game you ain't played and don't even like. Stop harassing people in the fandom of a game you ain't played and don't like.

Yall pathetic.