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“Of all modern notions, the worst is this: that domesticity is dull. Inside the home, they say, is dead decorum and routine; outside is adventure and variety. But the truth is that the home is the only place of liberty, the only spot on earth where a man can alter arrangements suddenly, make an experiment or indulge in a whim. The home is not the one tame place in a world of adventure; it is the one wild place in a world of rules and set tasks.” - G. K. Chesterton alive on all channels

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On Christmas

An Essay on Christmas by G.K. Chesterton On Christmas an essay by G. K. Chesterton from All Things Considered, London 1908, plus some links to other posts about Christmas Festival, markets and stories What life and death may be to a turkey is not my business; but the soul of Scrooge and the body of Cratchit are my business. G.K. Chesterton Any one thinking of the Holy Child as born in December would mean by it exactly what we mean by it; that Christ is not merely a summer sun of the prosperous but a winter fire for the unfortunate. G.K. Chesterton The great majority of people will go on observing forms that cannot be explained; they will keep Christmas Day with Christmas gifts and Christmas benedictions; they will continue to do it; and some day suddenly wake up and discover why. G.K. Chesterton Christmas is built upon a beautiful and intentional paradox; that the birth of the homeless should be celebrated in every home. G. K. Chesterton There is no more dangerous or disgusting habit than that of celebrating Christmas before it comes, as I am doing in this article. It is the very essence of a festival that it breaks upon one brilliantly and abruptly, that at one moment the great day is not and the next moment the great day is. Up to a certain specific instant you are feeling ordinary and sad; for it is only Wednesday. At the next moment your heart leaps up and your soul and body dance together like lovers; for in one burst and blaze it has become Thursday. I am assuming (of course) that you are a worshipper of Thor, and that you celebrate his day once a week, possibly with human sacrifice. If, on the other hand, you are a modern Christian Englishman, you hail (of course) with the same explosion of gaiety the appearance of the English Sunday. But I say that whatever the day is that is to you festive or symbolic, it is essential that there should be a quite clear black line between it and the time going before. And all the old wholesome customs in connection with Christmas were to the effect that one should not touch or see or know or speak of something before the actual coming of Christmas Day. Thus, for instance, children were never given their presents until the actual coming of the appointed hour. The presents were kept tied up in brown-paper parcels, out of which an arm of a doll or the leg of a donkey sometimes accidentally stuck. I wish this principle were adopted in respect of modern Christmas ceremonies and publications. Especially it ought to be observed in connection with what are called the Christmas numbers of magazines. The editors of the magazines bring out their Christmas numbers so long before the time that the reader is more likely to be still lamenting for the turkey of last year than to have seriously settled down to a solid anticipation of the turkey which is to come. Christmas numbers of magazines ought to be tied up in brown paper and kept for Christmas Day. On consideration, I should favour the editors being tied up in brown paper. Whether the leg or arm of an editor should ever be allowed to protrude I leave to individual choice. Of course, all this secrecy about Christmas is merely sentimental and ceremonial; if you do not like what is sentimental and ceremonial, do not celebrate Christmas at all. You will not be punished if you don't; also, since we are no longer ruled by those sturdy Puritans who won for us civil and religious liberty, you will not even be punished if you do. But I cannot understand why any one should bother about a ceremonial except ceremonially. If a thing only exists in order to be graceful, do it gracefully or do not do it. If a thing only exists as something professing to be solemn, do it solemnly or do not do it. There is no sense in doing it slouchingly; nor is there even any liberty. I can understand the man who takes off his hat to a lady because it is the customary symbol. I can understand him, I say; in fact, I know him quite intimately. I can also understand the man who refuses to take off his hat to a lady, like the old Quakers, because he thinks that a symbol is superstition. But what point would there be in so performing an arbitrary form of respect that it was not a form of respect? We respect the gentleman who takes off his hat to the lady; we respect the fanatic who will not take off his hat to the lady. But what should we think of the man who kept his hands in his pockets and asked the lady to take his hat off for him because he felt tired? This is combining insolence and superstition; and the modern world is full of the strange combination. There is no mark of the immense weak-mindedness of modernity that is more striking than this general disposition to keep up old forms, but to keep them up informally and feebly. Why take something which was only meant to be respectful and preserve it disrespectfully? Why take something which you could easily abolish as a superstition and carefully perpetuate it as a bore? There have been many instances of this half-witted compromise. Was it not true, for instance, that the other day some mad American was trying to buy Glastonbury Abbey and transfer it stone by stone to America? Such things are not only illogical, but idiotic. There is no particular reason why a pushing American financier should pay respect to Glastonbury Abbey at all. But if he is to pay respect to Glastonbury Abbey, he must pay respect to Glastonbury. If it is a matter of sentiment, why should he spoil the scene? If it is not a matter of sentiment, why should he ever have visited the scene? To call this kind of thing Vandalism is a very inadequate and unfair description. The Vandals were very sensible people. They did not believe in a religion, and so they insulted it; they did not see any use for certain buildings, and so they knocked them down. But they were not such fools as to encumber their march with the fragments of the edifice they had themselves spoilt. They were at least superior to the modern American mode of reasoning. They did not desecrate the stones because they held them sacred.

It is not uncommon nowadays for the insane extremes in reality to meet. G.K. Chesterton Another instance of the same illogicality I observed the other day at some kind of "At Home." I saw what appeared to be a human being dressed in a black evening-coat, black dress-waistcoat, and black dress-trousers, but with a shirt-front made of Jaegar wool. What can be the sense of this sort of thing? If a man thinks hygiene more important than convention (a selfish and heathen view, for the beasts that perish are more hygienic than man, and man is only above them because he is more conventional), if, I say, a man thinks that hygiene is more important than convention, what on earth is there to oblige him to wear a shirt-front at all? But to take a costume of which the only conceivable cause or advantage is that it is a sort of uniform, and then not wear it in the uniform way—this is to be neither a Bohemian nor a gentleman. It is a foolish affectation, I think, in an English officer of the Life Guards never to wear his uniform if he can help it. But it would be more foolish still if he showed himself about town in a scarlet coat and a Jaeger breast-plate. It is the custom nowadays to have Ritual Commissions and Ritual Reports to make rather unmeaning compromises in the ceremonial of the Church of England. So perhaps we shall have an ecclesiastical compromise by which all the Bishops shall wear Jaeger copes and Jaeger mitres. Similarly the King might insist on having a Jaeger crown. But I do not think he will, for he understands the logic of the matter better than that. The modern monarch, like a reasonable fellow, wears his crown as seldom as he can; but if he does it at all, then the only point of a crown is that it is a crown. So let me assure the unknown gentleman in the woollen vesture that the only point of a white shirt-front is that it is a white shirt-front. Stiffness may be its impossible defect; but it is certainly its only possible merit. Let us be consistent, therefore, about Christmas, and either keep customs or not keep them. If you do not like sentiment and symbolism, you do not like Christmas; go away and celebrate something else; I should suggest the birthday of Mr. M'Cabe. No doubt you could have a sort of scientific Christmas with a hygienic pudding and highly instructive presents stuffed into a Jaeger stocking; go and have it then. If you like those things, doubtless you are a good sort of fellow, and your intentions are excellent. I have no doubt that you are really interested in humanity; but I cannot think that humanity will ever be much interested in you. Humanity is unhygienic from its very nature and beginning. It is so much an exception in Nature that the laws of Nature really mean nothing to it. Now Christmas is attacked also on the humanitarian ground. Ouida called it a feast of slaughter and gluttony. Mr. Shaw suggested that it was invented by poulterers. That should be considered before it becomes more considerable. I do not know whether an animal killed at Christmas has had a better or a worse time than it would have had if there had been no Christmas or no Christmas dinners. But I do know that the fighting and suffering brotherhood to which I belong and owe everything, Mankind, would have a much worse time if there were no such thing as Christmas or Christmas dinners. Whether the turkey which Scrooge gave to Bob Cratchit had experienced a lovelier or more melancholy career than that of less attractive turkeys is a subject upon which I cannot even conjecture. But that Scrooge was better for giving the turkey and Cratchit happier for getting it I know as two facts, as I know that I have two feet. What life and death may be to a turkey is not my business; but the soul of Scrooge and the body of Cratchit are my business. Nothing shall induce me to darken human homes, to destroy human festivities, to insult human gifts and human benefactions for the sake of some hypothetical knowledge which Nature curtained from our eyes. We men and women are all in the same boat, upon a stormy sea. We owe to each other a terrible and tragic loyalty. If we catch sharks for food, let them be killed most mercifully; let any one who likes love the sharks, and pet the sharks, and tie ribbons round their necks and give them sugar and teach them to dance. But if once a man suggests that a shark is to be valued against a sailor, or that the poor shark might be permitted to bite off a nigger's leg occasionally; then I would court-martial the man—he is a traitor to the ship. And while I take this view of humanitarianism of the anti-Christmas kind, it is cogent to say that I am a strong anti-vivisectionist. That is, if there is any vivisection, I am against it. I am against the cutting-up of conscious dogs for the same reason that I am in favour of the eating of dead turkeys. The connection may not be obvious; but that is because of the strangely unhealthy condition of modern thought. I am against cruel vivisection as I am against a cruel anti-Christmas asceticism, because they both involve the upsetting of existing fellowships and the shocking of normal good feelings for the sake of something that is intellectual, fanciful, and remote. It is not a human thing, it is not a humane thing, when you see a poor woman staring hungrily at a bloater, to think, not of the obvious feelings of the woman, but of the unimaginable feelings of the deceased bloater. Similarly, it is not human, it is not humane, when you look at a dog to think about what theoretic discoveries you might possibly make if you were allowed to bore a hole in his head. Both the humanitarians' fancy about the feelings concealed inside the bloater, and the vivisectionists' fancy about the knowledge concealed inside the dog, are unhealthy fancies, because they upset a human sanity that is certain for the sake of something that is of necessity uncertain. The vivisectionist, for the sake of doing something that may or may not be useful, does something that certainly is horrible. The anti-Christmas humanitarian, in seeking to have a sympathy with a turkey which no man can have with a turkey, loses the sympathy he has already with the happiness of millions of the poor. It is not uncommon nowadays for the insane extremes in reality to meet. Thus I have always felt that brutal Imperialism and Tolstoian non-resistance were not only not opposite, but were the same thing. They are the same contemptible thought that conquest cannot be resisted, looked at from the two standpoints of the conqueror and the conquered. Thus again teetotalism and the really degraded gin-selling and dram-drinking have exactly the same moral philosophy. They are both based on the idea that fermented liquor is not a drink, but a drug. But I am specially certain that the extreme of vegetarian humanity is, as I have said, akin to the extreme of scientific cruelty—they both permit a dubious speculation to interfere with their ordinary charity. The sound moral rule in such matters as vivisection always presents itself to me in this way. There is no ethical necessity more essential and vital than this: that casuistical exceptions, though admitted, should be admitted as exceptions. And it follows from this, I think, that, though we may do a horrid thing in a horrid situation, we must be quite certain that we actually and already are in that situation. Thus, all sane moralists admit that one may sometimes tell a lie; but no sane moralist would approve of telling a little boy to practise telling lies, in case he might one day have to tell a justifiable one. Thus, morality has often justified shooting a robber or a burglar. But it would not justify going into the village Sunday school and shooting all the little boys who looked as if they might grow up into burglars. The need may arise; but the need must have arisen. It seems to me quite clear that if you step across this limit you step off a precipice.

Christmas decorations Now, whether torturing an animal is or is not an immoral thing, it is, at least, a dreadful thing. It belongs to the order of exceptional and even desperate acts. Except for some extraordinary reason I would not grievously hurt an animal; with an extraordinary reason I would grievously hurt him. If (for example) a mad elephant were pursuing me and my family, and I could only shoot him so that he would die in agony, he would have to die in agony. But the elephant would be there. I would not do it to a hypothetical elephant. Now, it always seems to me that this is the weak point in the ordinary vivisectionist argument, "Suppose your wife were dying." Vivisection is not done by a man whose wife is dying. If it were it might be lifted to the level of the moment, as would be lying or stealing bread, or any other ugly action. But this ugly action is done in cold blood, at leisure, by men who are not sure that it will be of any use to anybody—men of whom the most that can be said is that they may conceivably make the beginnings of some discovery which may perhaps save the life of some one else's wife in some remote future. That is too cold and distant to rob an act of its immediate horror. That is like training the child to tell lies for the sake of some great dilemma that may never come to him. You are doing a cruel thing, but not with enough passion to make it a kindly one. So much for why I am an anti-vivisectionist; and I should like to say, in conclusion, that all other anti-vivisectionists of my acquaintance weaken their case infinitely by forming this attack on a scientific speciality in which the human heart is commonly on their side, with attacks upon universal human customs in which the human heart is not at all on their side. I have heard humanitarians, for instance, speak of vivisection and field sports as if they were the same kind of thing. The difference seems to me simple and enormous. In sport a man goes into a wood and mixes with the existing life of that wood; becomes a destroyer only in the simple and healthy sense in which all the creatures are destroyers; becomes for one moment to them what they are to him - another animal. In vivisection a man takes a simpler creature and subjects it to subtleties which no one but man could inflict on him, and for which man is therefore gravely and terribly responsible. Meanwhile, it remains true that I shall eat a great deal of turkey this Christmas; and it is not in the least true (as the vegetarians say) that I shall do it because I do not realise what I am doing, or because I do what I know is wrong, or that I do it with shame or doubt or a fundamental unrest of conscience. In one sense I know quite well what I am doing; in another sense I know quite well that I know not what I do. Scrooge and the Cratchits and I are, as I have said, all in one boat; the turkey and I are, to say the most of it, ships that pass in the night, and greet each other in passing. I wish him well; but it is really practically impossible to discover whether I treat him well. I can avoid, and I do avoid with horror, all special and artificial tormenting of him, sticking pins in him for fun or sticking knives in him for scientific investigation. But whether by feeding him slowly and killing him quickly for the needs of my brethren, I have improved in his own solemn eyes his own strange and separate destiny, whether I have made him in the sight of God a slave or a martyr, or one whom the gods love and who die young—that is far more removed from my possibilities of knowledge than the most abstruse intricacies of mysticism or theology. A turkey is more occult and awful than all the angels and archangels In so far as God has partly revealed to us an angelic world, he has partly told us what an angel means. But God has never told us what a turkey means. And if you go and stare at a live turkey for an hour or two, you will find by the end of it that the enigma has rather increased than diminished. "Christmas" from All Things Considered. G.K. Chesterton. London: Methuen & Co., 1908. Read also: Christmas quotes ; 60 great Christmas quotes ; Christmas markets in England ; Christmas markets in America ; Christmas Read the full article

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A Christmas Carol poem by G.K.Chesterton

The Christ-child lay on Mary’s lap,His hair was like a light.(O weary, weary were the world,But here is all aright.)The Christ-child lay on Mary’s breastHis hair was like a star.(O stern and cunning are the kings,But here the true hearts are.) The Christ-child lay on Mary’s heart,His hair was like a fire.(O weary, weary is the world,But here the world’s desire.)The Christ-child stood on Mary’s…

[neil-gaiman]

You and Terry dedicated Good Omens to Gk K Chesterton. Where should I start with reading his books? (And what was going on that he knew about?).

thank you so much for all the words and your seemingly endless patience with these interminable questions.

I think for Good Omens, "The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare" would be the best thing to read. It was certainly something that Terry and I talked about as a philosophical underpinning to Good Omens.

(And the poem that Terry references in the text was "An Old Song".)

[oldgayjew]

Young people give the peace sign because they haven't the slightest idea of what's about to destroy their lives ... I pray that they hold onto that innocence for as long as they can, but realize that reality is very different from their dreams ... I pray that I may find the strength and courage to stand against the evil that threatens their future ...

"Teach children about the monsters in this world ...

Teach children that there are people who are willing to fight those monsters ..."

G.K.Chesterton

[f-brown]

I always loved Father Brown's conflicted faces and the little habits he uses to express this, like him taking off his glasses. He is an excellent observer, listener and thinker so what goes on in his mind can’t be expressed completely in words, some things are better understood by the expression of the face.

In my opinion, Mark's interpretation, with his micro facial expressions, is very much in line with Chesterton's description of Father Brown.

"Father Brown was made of two men. There was a man of action, who was as modest as a primrose and as punctual as a clock; who went his small round of duties and never dreamed of altering it. There was also a man of reflection, who was much simpler but much stronger, who could not easily be stopped; whose thought was always (in the only intelligent sense of the words) free thought. He could not help, even unconsciously, asking himself all the questions that there were to be asked, and answering as many of them as he could; all that went on like his breathing or circulation."

[The Wisdom of Father Brown; The Salad of Colonel Cray (G.K.Chesterton)]

[scorcidipoesia]

"Ho provato ad amare ogni cosa viva: un’oscura preparazione per amare te. Qui termina la mia vita precedente. Prendila. Mi ha portato fino a te”.

– G.K.Chesterton

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“Ho provato ad amare ogni cosa viva: un’oscura preparazione per amare te. Qui termina la mia vita precedente. Prendila.

Mi ha portato fino a te”.

*G.K.Chesterton *

[abr]

Ciò che è morto non può che seguire la corrente, il mainstream. Solo ciò che è vitale può opporsi ad essa. G.K.Chesterton

[dreaminginthedeepsouth]

[Ian.Sanders]

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“The modern world has far too little understanding of the art of keeping young. Its notion of progress has been to pile one thing on top of another, without caring if each thing was crushed in turn. People forgot that the human soul can enjoy a thing most when there is time to think about it and be thankful for it. And by crowding things together they lost the sense of surprise; and surprise is the secret of joy.” –G.K. Chesterton

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Kindaichi x Father Brown (Novel) AU

Dialogues between Kindachi and Takato always remind me of the original novel by G.K.Chesterton (NOT BBC TV series). Well, Father Brown is classic. So I draw this short manga :)

[aurevoirmonty]

« La grande marche de destruction mentale va continuer. Tout sera nié. Tout deviendra objet de croyance. C'est une position raisonnable de nier l'existence des pierres dans la rue ; ce sera un dogme religieux de l'affirmer. C'est une thèse rationnelle que nous vivons tous dans un rêve ; ce sera une preuve de santé mentale mystique de dire que nous sommes tous éveillés. Des incendies seront allumés pour témoigner que deux et deux font quatre. Des épées seront tirées pour prouver que les feuilles sont vertes en été. Nous serons acculés à défendre, non seulement les incroyables vertus et le bon sens de la vie humaine, mais quelque chose de plus incroyable encore : cet immense et impossible univers qui nous regarde en face. Nous nous battrons pour des prodiges visibles comme s'ils étaient invisibles. Nous regardons l'herbe impossible et les cieux avec un étrange courage. Nous serons de ceux qui ont vu et qui ont pourtant cru. »

G.K.Chesterton,"Hérétiques".

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"It is good to sit where the good tales go,

To sit as our fathers sat;

But the hour shall come after his youth,

When a man shall know not tales but truth,

And his heart fail thereat.

"When he shall read what is written

So plain in clouds and clods,

When he shall hunger without hope

Even for evil gods.

"For this is a heavy matter,

And the truth is cold to tell;

Do we not know, have we not heard,

The soul is like a lost bird,

The body a broken shell.

"And a man hopes, being ignorant,

Till in white woods apart

He finds at last the lost bird dead:

And a man may still lift up his head

But never more his heart."

Ballad Of The White Horse, The Harp of Alfred, the song of Guthrum, G.K.Chesterton.

[ezikial13]

In 2023 I have read 68 books. Here they are:

Carpe Jugulum by Terry Pratchett

The Devil and Dark Water by Stuart Turton

Orphans of the tide by Struan Murray

Ironside by Holly Black

Don Quixote by Miguel Cervantes

The Amazing Maurice and his educated rodents by Terry Pratchett

Tin Princess by Philip Pullman

The Three Musketeers by Alexander Dumas

Moby Dick By Herman Melville

Moonblood by Alastair MacNeill

Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte

The Watchmaker of Filigree Street by Natasha Pulley

Little Women by Louisa May Alcott

The Seven Dials by Agatha Christie

Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad

The Italian Girl by Iris Murdoch

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin

Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Fredrich Nietszche

The woman in white by Wilkie Collins

The Wreck of the Titan by Morgan Robertson

Destination Unkown by Agatha Christie

East of Eden by John Steinbeck

The Listerdale Mystery by Agatha Christie

The Pickwick Papers by Charles Dickens

The Hunchback of Notre Dame by Victor Hugo

Poirot's Early Cases by Agatha Christie

The City of God by Augustine

Longarm and the Wendigo by Tabor Evans

Anne of Green Gables by Lucy Maud Montgomery

The Ghost Drum by Susan Price

The Last Hero by Terry Pratchett

Man's search for Meaning by Victor Frankl

When the Lion Feeds by Wilbur Smith

Journey to the West by Wu Cheng'e

Flatland by E. A. Abbot

The Island of Doctor Moreau by HG Wells

The Piano Teacher by J.Y.K. Lee

The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne

Goblin Fruit by D.M. Chan

Heidi by Johanna Spyri

The Three-Body Problem by Cixian Liu

The Man who was Thursday by G.K.Chesterton

Didache

Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie

Dune:Messiah by Frank Herbert

Tarzan of the Apes by E.R. Burroughs

Eric by Terry Pratchett

1913 by Florian Illies

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

Men at Arms by Terry Pratchett

Hour of the Wolf by A.J. Gallows

Catch 22 by Joseph Heller

Little House on the Prairie by L.l. Wilder

The Railway Children by E. Nesbit

The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy in five parts by Douglas Adams

From the Earth to the Moon by Jules Verne

Round the Moon by Jules Verne

American gods by Niel Gaiman

Vanity Fair by W.M. Thackery

The Master of the World by Jules Verne

The Vicar of Wakefield by Oliver Goldsmith

A Season in Hell by Jack Higgins

The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis

The Price By A. Sokoloff

The Hogfather by Terry Pratchett

The Bible as your GPS by K. Genis

[andreyshch]

"I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself." D.H.Lawrence.

 “Dishonesty in a woman is a thing you never blame deeply - I was casually sorry, and then I forgot.”

Help us translate this quote.

remember someone involved in the recovery and saving of wild birds said that it is often hard to tell if a bird is sick or wounded from their appearance because in the wild they are hiding it to the last moment. Not showing. Not because they don't have an ego or self-consciousness. They do have them, only small and primitive in comparison. And in human they are often just a tool. One owns an ego like a car or something bigger, a house.

In the beginning of the 20th century it was widely believed that animals are not able to experience pain because they have no self-consciousness. Even such thoughtful man as C.S.Lewis thought that (his treatise "On pain"). Or Heidegger. Not some havily tattooed and mustached whale gunners. I remember a picture, more like an engraving than a photograph, printed i think in "London Illustrated" in 1922 (?) depicting a scene when the gunners of the navy ships were training on whales. The whales floating with their bellies emerged from water and few battle ships at the distance. And there was a cheerful inscription under this image, something like: "When there are no enemies around, the brave gunmen of the navy keep mastering their skills on whales". No enemies around, no. There are always no enemies around but nearby, disguised. I depict this picture and the inscription by memory because it is not searchable, obviously as excessively cruel. Possibly upsetting as they now call it. One must go to the library or look through all the scans for 1922 or 1921.

This belief, about the lack of self-reflextion in animals, is really mystical. Why did they need it? To emphasise the presence of it in humans? Now it is strongly doubtful it's a gain, at least that it can be reached by effort or chosen. It is said that all is in our mind, all reality sits in our brain, and at the same time - that we should put down the burden of our mind - say, through meditation, since drugs are too effective, to stop the flow of inner talk which is

[photo of a hawk sitting on the electric wire with an arrow piercing its chest through]

"Starve, scourge, deride me: I am dumb,

 I keep my secret still. " (G.K.Chesterton)