#I dont remember if he apologised or not i do remember quackity saying he talked to aypierre to ensure no shit happens again

[sweet-potato-42]

As expected after the forever situation people are bringing up stuff other ccs did in the past. Now we need to ask what can we forgive after someone gives an apology. how much do we think a person can change? Since really if we dont tolerate anything literally like every single cc on qsmp could be cancelled. So where do we draw the line.

Really its subjective and it often comes down to how much people personally like the cc which isnt ideal. Its sad to know its not fair and that the most popular and well liked ccs would be treated far less harshly than some less popular ccs. (like forever was popular but many disliked him still, it would have not been as harsh with cellbit for example)

Do we forgive aypierre if he apologises for what he said. Do we forgive tubbo for making some ignorant comments in the past despite him acknowledging he was wrong. Do we forgive when cellbit did blackface even if he apologised (i think) . Are we going to forgive some ccs like Vegetta who made questionable comments about trans and nonbinary people.

Also to what extent do we allow shit from the past to be forgiven. how far back. how old did the ccs have to be. Do we forgive if they were "stupid teenagers"? Do we forgive if they are from a more ignorant generation? Do we forgive if it was during a time with lots of bigotry?

Also do we need to have some thorough investigation of everything the ccs have said?? Do we leave it for when epople feel like looking into shit?? How far back can we look??

I personally believe to some extent forgiveness must be allowed. Ive seen people and myself change from shit opinions which are 90% of the time from ignorance. So what do we forgive...

[autisticlalna]

and thank you, 77-2 discord, for getting me to follow my dreams.........mp

(by which i mean i have a dsmp au for my 2 main minesonas now.)

left: Leonaut, he/him laidback prankster, originally joined the smp just to mess around and do his own thing in the background. interested in the lore (and wants to be a dreamon hunter) but hates conflict and books it as soon as tension starts rising... which is, uh, pretty much All The Time. starts off doing shenanigans (including attempting to help a few friends break into the End by distracting dXD so he couldnt stop them), and really wants an elytra because he misses doing cool stunts. overall a warm and friendly dude on the surface, if a bit anxious at times. ...and then it turns out the reason he avoids conflict is because he’s easily frustrated with people and escalates everything if he doesnt disengage. normally he bails out as soon as his temper starts flaring up, but at some point he gets tangled up in some major plot and ends up showing that side of himself. frustrated with the state of the server, he decides to stop being a bystander after this. wants everyone to resolve their differences and get along SO BAD, including dream. even though he’s very divisive because of this, he has faith in dream’s ability to be a better person and basically tries to strongarm him into a redemption arc settles down in snowchester and cant decide if he should be a voice of reason re: the nukes, or encourage tubbo and see what happens. doesn’t have a backstory or do heavy lore about himself, and handwaves it by saying he’s got memory issues (although not to the point of ranboo-- he’s just very forgetful and doesn’t remember stuff from before joining the smp). he’s a shapeshifter, but it doesn’t come up much and he gets mistaken for human frequently.

right: Landia, they/them leonaut’s younger sibling, and a bit of a menace. usually found as a cameo or messing around in the background while other people are doing stuff, and doesnt take things all too seriously. tends to blur the line between “in character” and “out of character”, with it being hard to tell if theyre doing lore or just faffing about. they join the smp a bit after leonaut does, and karl finds them asleep in the kinoko kingdom library. somehow they manage to endear themself to karl, sapnap, and quackity, and ends up as a proper resident of kinoko and helps maintain the non-hidden part of the library. they know a Lot about everyone on the smp that they really Shouldn’t know, and can sometimes be a bit uncanny because of this. the most they do with this is drop in whenever someone needs help with something, and its not uncommon for them to leave chests at people’s bases with gifts in them if theyve lost something. if someone’s character arc gets really dark, lan will pop up to try and bring some levity to it and support whoever’s in a rough spot. lan’s knowledge of stuff they shouldn’t is actually an integral part of their lore, but they dont talk about their backstory ever on account of it being “really convoluted”. theyre fully aware that theyre just a background character, and theyre happy with that! theyve been in the spotlight too much before, although they wont elaborate on where or how. they accidentally get adopted by karl, sapnap, and quackity, although it’s the sort of thing where they stuck around long enough to become part of the group and then slipped up and called karl “dad” one day. karl freaked out on account of his memory loss meaning that he looked at this fucking idiot catboy and had to think DO I ACTUALLY HAVE A KID??? before lan apologised for “being weird”. sapnap thinks its funny and started calling them “kid” they’re a shapeshifter like leonaut, although more... obvious about it. on account of choosing to be a horrendously anime catboy. they have both odd-eyes and sectoral heterochromia, AND their eyes change colour depending on their mood on top of that. theyre ridiculous and are doing it on purpose.