Hi Niki! Questions for you: is there animosity between kmbb and imbb the same way there seems to be for a lot of fan groups in kpop?
hi anon!!!!!
tbh I can't say for sure because I haven't been around from the beginning and also I'm not that deep into those spaces where these kinds of conflicts usually happen, so I'm probably gonna tag a couple of older mutuals who might be able to answer ur question more accurately, but I will say my own two cents.
from what i've gathered since ulting mx I can tell you that there is definitely some conflict and tension going on between the korean side and the intl side but in comparison to some other fandoms i've seen i'd say it's a bit milder. i feel like the two sides mostly ignore each other unless there is major thing going on. like for example i think (again, i wasn't there and im just relaying what ive heard over the years) during the whole wonho situation in 2019 was one of the times kmbb and intl clashed bc from what ive heard, the majority of the stans who wanted wonho out were korean while most intl stans were supporting wonho and wanted him to stay/get back in mx.
also everytime monsta x has overseas schedules there are a group of kmbb who really whine and complain about not breathing the same air as mx for two days (at one point some members addressed it and kinda scolded them for their behaviour during their world tour).
( @timetominhyuk @lesbiheon id love to hear u guys' thoughts on this if you wanna share them!!! feel free to rb and add to the post!!)
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hi! heard ur taking clip suggestions for the hermit base tour stream and this isnt really a joel one but just askkng if u can clip when all the hermits were singing happy birthday to pearl? it starts at 48:17 on xisuma's stream (the one uploaded to yt) and 58:52 on gem's stream on twitch (if u cant or dont want to its fine!!! just thought it was a really nice (and frankly, chaotic) clip) and theres also a uh collective...hermit fish slapping...if u wish to call it that...like a min after
also the tiny bantering fighting match right at the beginning of gem's stream between gem and joel was fun too! (around 10:30 on gem's stream on twitch) theres also many instances of the fighting scattered all through stream and i can maybe list like half of their timestamps if u want me to! <3
(again, not forcing u to clip anything just suggestions! u can totally just ignore this whole ask if u rlly wanna)
Thank you, Anon! I appreciate making sure I didn't feel pressured, but it's totally cool to offer clips to this blog, even if I didn't ask recently. "Here's a suggestion" will never feel like an attempt at coercion! <3
That said, gimme more time stamps if you have them! I'm using Gem's original twitch stream.
Sensory Warning: The sound is overwhelming and just terrible. <3 I clipped this while listening to a Jimmy stream on the tv, 'twas horrendous.
Wanted: Time stamps for his stream!
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Love for Love's Sake actors perform "You like me, don't you?" confession scene :D (Myungha/Yeowoon, Sangwon/Kyunghoon, Myungha/Sangwon)
They are so adorable and we get characters admitting their feelings that never happened in the series, hehe.
I translated this segment and added quick english subtitles so I hope you enjoy this bit from LFLS fanmeeting! This was fun. And I loved how all of them used their own lines from their character's script but they mixed them up to suit this situation :D
(tumblr is acting out so i couldn't upload it here for 2 hours therefore come watch it on yt %)
I'll also add the full written transcript in read more >
(Translation by @dropthedemiurge or ametistlex on twitter)
[They are acting out the scene with "You like me" line]
MC: Let's start with the first pair, Myungha and Yeowoon.
TV: I'm asking him, right?
MC: Yes. We'll also do the opposite scene.
TV: "No, listen… You like me, don't you?"
JW: "You already know it, sunbae?"
JW: "Why aren't you dating me then?.."
TV: "This… well… Do you wanna go eat ice cream?"
JW: "Why do you like ice cream so much, sunbae?"
TV: "I like it because of you, you brat!"
JW: "Let's go~"
WK: Come to me. Come here!
MC: Shall I give you guys some popcorn?
MS: After all that ice cream, you'll go to dentist!
MC: You'll have to go to dentist after eating ice cream lol
MC: But I really felt like I was inside the drama now.
MC: Let's now act out the opposite situation, we couldn't even imagine it!
JW: I was waiting for it.
JW: "You like me, don't ya?"
TV: "Yeowoon-ah… You're not talking politely."
(the original line is in informal speech but Myungha is older than Yeowoon)
JW: He's so scary~
TV: "Shall we go eat some ice cream?"
JW: "Don't wanna!"
MC: Let's clap for them!
MC: Actor Taevin, I only asked you to say the script but suddenly you did the "informal speech" line.
TV: Well, I responded to it because Yeowoon started it nicely for me~
MC: Wow… Fans are shouting that it was dope.
MC: Let's have our actors Woongki and Minsu act out this scene now.
WK: But Kyunghoon has a boyfriend…
MC: Ah, that's right!
MC: Fans are telling you to break up lol
WK: No way!
WK: I did my best and I'm loving him~
MC: Was he American?
WK: I think he was from America…
MC: I remember he was a foreigner.
MS: They told us to start dating.
WK: Shall we?
WK: But in any case, Sangwon is difficult (?)
MC: Then just pretend it's happening and show us the scene.
WK: "You like me, don't you?"
MS: "What do you mean?"
WK: "No, but I know you like me!"
MS: "You can see that I like you?"
MS: Was it good?
MC: I saw Cheon Sangwon right here!
TV: Nice, nice~
MC: Nice-nice~ Taevin, did you like-like it?
TV: It was very ni-nice, I li-li-like-liked it a lot.
WK: But I (Kyunghoon) am older than you, and you spoke informally. I was a bit annoyed.
MC: Let's do the opposite scene.
MS: "Kyunghoon-hyung!"
MS: "You like me, hyung, don't you?"
WK: "How did you know?"
MS: That's not the line!
TV: What the?
MC: This is his lines!
TV: Cut!
WK: Why?! It fits, so why?!
MC: Taevin said he's cutting this scene.
TV: I liked Kyunghoon's emotions, they were so real!
MC: Director Taevin, is this a failed scene?
MS: Do it once more?
MC: I think it's a failure.
TV: Yes, it seems like we'll have to reshoot it!
MV: Director Taevin told you to do the scene again.
MS: "Kyunghoon-hyung, you like me, don't you?"
WK: "Is it that obvious?"
MS: "Yeah"
WK: "I'll be careful from now on."
MC: This drama is so fun!
TV: So cute!
MC: Turns out, Kyunghoon is a careful (hesitant) person…
MC: Fans are all saying it's fun to watch.
MC: Should we ask the last couple to perform it too?
Fans: Yes!
MC: Myungha and…
MC: Sangwon! With Myungha will be the last pair.
MS: Let me have something too!
TV: Yeowoon-ah, close your ears~
MC: Yeowoon, tell them 'ready, action!'.
JW: Readyaction.
JW: I'll do it properly. Ready, action!
TV: "Listen… you like me, don't you?"
MS: "Can you see… that I like you, hyung?"
TV: "Yes."
MS: "Let's talk about it then?"
TV: "Let's not."
TV: "It's your problem, I'm gonna go~"
MC: Oh no, he just went away!
WK: Good job~
TV: Was it too harsh?
MS: But I had more lines!
JW: It sounded just like Myungha!
MC: You had another line?
MC: Don't go away, he has something to say!
TV: You have more?
TV: "What?"
MS: "Hyung… I used to like girls!!!"
MC: Ah, that's the line that you had.
MC: Now, the opposite?
MC: The opposite scene.
TV: How?
MC: Minsu will say "you like me" to you.
TV: Ah, so I like him.
MC: That kind of situation has never happened in this drama!
MC: Are you jealous?
TV: I got it, okay! Sits here next to me…
MS: "Hyung~"
MS: "Hyung, you like me, don't you?"
TV: "Me? No?"
TV: "Does it seem that I like him?"
TV: "I don't, though?"
MS: "Start looking at me too"
TV: "Alright, then… what kind of ice cream do you like?"
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Look I'm not a business person. I don't know shit about what the BTS looks like at watcher. But if I was them, this is what I'd do:
-keep the lower production shows on YouTube. Stuff where it's just them on a set, like mystery files, puppet history, too many spirits, etc
-higher production stuff, involving travel and renting out places, put that behind the paywall. It's crazy that WWW was uploaded for free I don't wanna think about how much they lost off that. Yes this does also mean ghost files would be behind a paywall sorry
-I actually do like the idea of pilots being uploaded on to yt and then of you wanna watch the whole show get the subscription. That's what dropout does
-bts stuff also goes behind a paywall. At the end of videos, put a little thing like "hey want extra scenes? Sub to watcher TV"
-branch out and find more talent. I love the three guys, but to justify the fees they're gonna have to diversify their portfolio. In a way that makes sense of course.
-start advertising their shows like dropout does. Do you know how many d20 and game changer ads I get on tiktok? So many. If this is a business you're going to have to start treating it like one.
I love watcher. I've been following the ghoul boys since unsolved. I genuinely want the best for them and want them to keep making content. But I think they're making a mistake, especially with how many of us are poor college students. I know they need to fund their productions and I hope they find a way to do that that doesn't screw over their audience.
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