#Kiredere

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My Most Contributing Contribution to the Hetalia Fandom

On the official "The Dere Types" fandom blog, Germany is the face of the "Kiredere" label. Can you guess what a Kiredere is? Whenever I clicked on the examples, it said that GERMANY and ITALY were a PLATONIC version of Kiredereism. Are you freaking kidding me????? Luckily, I did some water damage control and I requested an edit for it to be changed! And they changed it so that Germany was not labeled platonic with Italy! Go ahead and see for yourself! You're welcome!

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The SATW nordics as different dere types

Denmark: deredere/yottadere/erodere/uzadere

Norway: deredere/jendere

Sweden: jendere

Iceland: deredere

Finland: tsundere/sadodere/gundere/yottadere

Greenland: tsundere/kuudere

Åland: jendere/kiredere

Faroe Islands: kinda a tsundere

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Them

Sorry I just really l love their relationship and how much of a kiredere Chip is to Eiar!

And yes, he braided her hair because it was getting in the way! I honestly like to believe if there was dialogue he would be telling her not to undo it and then lie that he did it for health hazard reasons!

[gender-mailman]

Kiredeperspesque!

A perspesque label for wanting kirederes to be deeply intertwined with how others perceive you

Coined by me. Requested by no one.

[basementstalker]

DV type

(Violence type, Attack, Domestic violence, DVgata, DV型)

By target: love interest

Love trope:

Believing that if words don't work, stronger methods must be employed, they don't fear to smack their love interest or even hit or kick them a few times just like a tsundere would. But unlike a tsundere, they don't hit their love interest out of a lack of emotional self-control, or because they don't know what else to do, or to conceal their true feelings. Domestic Violence yandere characters do so, having employed other methods, out of a belief that their relationship can be significantly improved as a result of that smack or a few punches or kicks, similar to a kiredere.

With almost any physical contact being seen in our day as suspicious, if not grounds for social banishment, domestic violence yandere characters are seen as brutes and abusers. Unlike actually abusive spouses, domestic violence (again love type) yandere characters understand that they can't force their love interest to love them or force their love interest to change for the better for them. They chose to be violent to make the severity of the problem more apparent and to boost their love interests motivation in hopes of affecting change in their love interest. Failing this, they no longer have any motivation to be violent towards their love interest -- even if they continue the undesired behavior. There's nothing more that the domestic violence yandere can do. Their love interest either doesn't care about them, or needs help beyond their yandere's current capabilities.

Shock trope:

They attempt to control their love interest through violence. They want power over the love interest and force them to act and be just like they want, forcing loyalty and love on them with fear.

This shock trope comprises all the worst things a yandere that targets their love interest can do. They can force their love interest to do things like a manipulative type. They will punish and hurt their love interest when they don't follow the wishes of the yandere so they can learn the hard way, like a training type. They will make the love interest think that no one else loves them and that they only need the yandere in their life, like a loneliness induction type. They won't let their love interest go out from the house or have any contact with the outside world, not even friends and family, like a restraints type.

For this type of yandere, their love interest is only a possession of them. They don't care about the love interest's feelings and will use them however they want. They can kill the love interest if they don't accept to be with the yandere, if they become upset enough or when they feel betrayed by the love interest. Some would even force the love interest to have intimate acts with them.

[virentdiv]

the journey to type ran from urusei yatsura

There is no type named "Randere" yet, but I'd think it would mean "random" so I don't really want to use it

Nominations

Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, The Fake Cutie, ... masquerading as 'moe' but lacking the true personality basis for 'moe' ... spiteful, takes what they want; helps themself, therefore doesn't accept help from others

"Yandere" is derived from the Japanese words yanderu, meaning insane or sick, and deredere, meaning affectionate or loving. Sometimes associated with Borderline Personality Disorder.

Yangire is a combination of the two words yanderu (病んでる), meaning to be sick, and gire (切れ), meaning to cut, slice, or "to snap". Yangires are Yanderes who can snap at any moment from jealousy or irritation without the motivations of affection/love for another character. Cute in both appearance and mannerisms, nice and friendly at first, then suddenly become horrible and aggressive. Typically resorts to violence. Sometimes associated with Paranoid Personality Disorder or PTSD.

"Dorodere" refers to a character who acts cute and sweet on the outside, but is actually full of 'muddy' feelings, such as grudges towards others, including the love interest. It is the inverse of Tsundere. Not necessarily violent.

Bonus

"Amaigire" is a term used for characters that turn aggressive and murderous because of sweets. Example: Spongebob Squarepants - Chocolate Guy I'd maybe argue that Stocking from P&S applies here.

"Tobokedere" is a variation of Bakadere that pretend to be stupid. Example: Mob Psycho 100 - Arataka Reigen

Kimokawaii is the combination of kimochi warui (bad feeling) and kawaii (cute).

"Tsunshun" is a term used for characters that are harsh/mean on the outside, but depressed/fearful inside. They intimidate others to insure solitude.

This is cute.

Rei is Harapeko Chara & Ahodere, Mendo is Bibiridere & Oujidere, and Sakura is Miko. Ataru's type doesn't matter, he is a clusterfuck of non-moe tropes.

Lum is a whole whopping combo of: Coodere, Kekkondere, Onidere, Biridere, Kiredere. Occasionally Yandere/Tsundere/Deredere tones.

Deduction

Dorodere is generally more suitable for Ran because she's more grudge-obsessed than love-obsessed. However, her grudges are love-related. Yangire by itself without Yandere is not love-related. Dorodere would imply that Ran is capable of welling these negative feelings up inside without suddenly snapping (not exactly in the way of Yangire or Bodere, but definitely something like -Gire). Her signature trope is snapping suddenly while talking to Lum. Yandegire is a fusion of Yangire and Yandere. Ran fits Yandegire, if not for the 'completely psychotic killer' reputation of the term Yandere.

Tropes Fall Short

There is not a broad variety of Yandegire characters. Discerning between 'Yandere' 'Yangire' and 'Yandegire' types in media is a brittle pursuit. A softened Yandegire term does not exist. If there exists a love interest, and they plot to destroy what others have in order to obtain what they want, it's basically all labeled and mailed off as Yandere. And somehow, Yandere always equates to "utterly violent and psychotic," and Yandegire is seen as a more intense Yandere: the calm and calculated serial killer with a split personality.

Ran is calculated, but not always calm. She bursts into rage and wallows. The wallowing is typical of Doro-, and bursts of rage are typical of -Gire. Ran is not depicted as essentially homicidal or mortally brutal, thus subverting the common Yandere/Yangire stereotype. The genre associated with Yandere is not compatible with the UruYat formula. She did attempt to drain the life energy of her rival's lover, which is premeditated homicide, however there is a difference in intention. Ran is indeed conniving, two-faced, and spiteful. But her plots are generally based in self-gain sabotage, not a taste for blood. Ran doesn't inherently believe she needs to harm others to get what she wants.

Conclusion

Disregarding allegations of homicide, Ran fits all of the below:

Borderline Personality Disorder

Yangire - "Ran tends to act very cutely in public. She shows a sweet, child-like if not even elegant side when she is happy but when she becomes suspicious or even angry her personality turns into complete opposite. When she was a child she was usually violently punished by her mother which could have traumatized Ran to develop her split personalities. She shows her anger and suspiciousness towards Lum, who she believes wants Rei back."

Yandere - "Ran is desperately in love with Rei and is jealous of Lum, as Rei is in love with her."

Yandegire - Ran will appear nice and accepting, but suddenly snap into aggression, and plot to sabotage others to get what she wants, relating to love or grudges.

Dorodere - Ran will appear nice and accepting, but secretly struggles with a lot of hateful feelings and grudges towards others, even people she loves.

Ran is Ran. But just for fun I attempted to make up a conjunctive type just for her: Kireuradere.

Kireuradere - derived from the Japanese words kireru (キレる), meaning to get angry; to snap, and ura (裏) which means reverse... but can be related to urami (grudge; malice) urame (opposite of the expected; backfire)... and urusei! (annoying!) ... followed by ~dere (lovey-dovey) Can also be written as 'Uragire' 'Uradere' I guess? I tried my best to make it not string together in a bulky mass like "Yanderedorogire" but not too short that it loses the complexity of Ran, like "Uragire" for example.

Also this is hilarious:

Ran (ラン, Ran, meaning Orchid, or Civil war)

[let-me-call-myself-olga]

Part 3 out of 3 of:

Danganronpa characters as Dere types (finishing with dr1):

Maizono Sayaka

Deredere

Ikusaba Mukuro

Undere

Kuwata Leon

Bakadere (at first wanted to put ahodere but bakadere fits better)

Fujisaki Chihiro

Hajidere with big deredere vibes

O(o)wada Mondo

Bocchandere (bocchanderes, as the wiki says, are usually people related to the yakuza, but generally people in relations with powerful groups)

Ishimaru Kiyotaka

Kiredere (the one and only)

Yamada Hifumi

Deredere, possible ahodere since the man has little to no human interaction

Ludenburg Celestia

Kanedere

Ogami Sakura

A healthy mix of Kuudere and Deredere, with a pretty big deredere inclination

Enoshima Junko

Sadodere

Naegi Makoto

Deredere (would be a megadere if he was generally more energetic)

Kirigiri Kyoko

Kuudere/Coodere

Fukawa Toko

Healing yandere

Togami Byakuya

Hinedere/Kanedere (kanederes can also be interested in someone's status)

Hagakure Yasuhiro

Bakadere

Asahina Aoi

Deredere

BONUS:

Naegi Komaru

Ahodere/Bakadere/Megadere (ray of sunshine)

[soulreaper]

they called vil a kiredere. god forbid women do anything.

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[gender-mailman]

Transmasckiredere!

A gender related to being transmasc and a kiredere; a gender related to transmasc kirederes, etc; a transmasckiredere

Coined by me. Requested by no one. Tagging @kirby-in-wonderland @oneofmanyarchives

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Neukiredere! / Neutralkiredere

A gender related to being neu(tral) and a kiredere; a gender related to neu(tral) kirederes, etc; a neu(tral)kiredere (neu as in the non gendered vergion of fem and masc)

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Femkiredere! / Femininekiredere!

A gender related to being fem(inine) and a kiredere; a gender related to fem(inine) kirederes, etc; a fem(inine)kiredere

Coined by me. Requested by no one. Tagging @kirby-in-wonderland @oneofmanyarchives