#La Poype

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Descriptions of Napoleon’s personality by Adam Zamoyski

“He was kind by nature, quick to assist and reward. He found comfortable jobs and granted generous pensions to former colleagues, teachers, and servants, even to a guard who had shown sympathy during his incarceration after the fall of Robespierre. He was generous to the son of Marbeuf, promoted his former commander at TouIon Dugommier and looked after his family when he died, did the same for La Poype and du Teil, and even found the useless Carteaux a post with a generous pension. Whenever he encountered hardship or poverty, he disbursed lavishly. He could be sensitive, and there are countless verifiable acts of solicitude and kindness that testify to his genuinely wishing to make people happy.”

“He was most at his ease with children, soldiers, servants, and those close to him, in whom he took a personal interest, asking them about their health, their families, and their troubles. He would treat them with a joshing familiarity, teasing them, calling them scoundrels or nincompoops; whenever he saw his physician, Dr. Jean-Nicolas Corvisart, he would ask him how many people he had killed that day.”

“He possessed considerable charm and only needed to smile for people to melt. He could be a delightful companion when he adopted an attitude of bonhomie. He was a good raconteur, and people loved listening to him speak on some subject that interested him, or tell his ghost stories, for which he would sometimes blow out the candles. He could grow passionate when discussing literature or, more rarely, his feelings.”

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Citroen Mehari 4x4 

Presented at the right time in May 1968, this vehicle symbolizes freedom, leisure and youth in itself. Although designed on the outside by Roland d'Ivoy de la Poype, Jean-Louis Barrault and Jean Darpin, it is once again a real Citroën with its usual ingredients of innovation! All-plastic bodywork, Dyane 6 engine, beater suspension, and atypical styling made to last. Moreover, it is only after 10 years of career that the 4x4 version appears for 4 additional years. A worthy successor to the 2CV Sahara, which was equipped with two engines and therefore four-wheel drive, the Méhari 4x4 is such an exceptional machine with astonishing off-road performance. Indeed, its lightness, its long-travel suspensions, its very short overhangs allow crossings that large 4x4s cannot succeed. Its look is not to be outdone, with the difference with the two-wheel-drive version: reinforced front and rear bumpers, a fuel outlet on the right, an optional spare wheel on the bonnet and one-piece rear lights. . Produced in only 1,213 copies, this 4x4 version is an absolute must!

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I decided to try this but for the girlies instead.

Are you sure want to click on ”keep reading”?

For Pauline Léon marrying Claire Lacombe’s host, see Liberty: the lives of six women in Revolutionary France (2006) by Lucy Moore, page 230

For Pauline Léon throwing a bust of Lafayette through Fréron’s window and being friends with Constance Evrard, see Pauline Léon, une républicaine révolutionnaire (2006) by Claude Guillon.

For Françoise Duplay’s sister visiting Catherine Théot, see Points de vue sur l’affaire Catherine Théot (1969) by Michel Eude, page 627.

For Anne Félicité Colombe publishing the papers of Marat and Fréron, see The women of Paris and their French Revolution (1998) by Dominique Godineau, page 382-383.

For the relationship between Simonne Evrard and Albertine Marat, see this post.

For Albertine Marat dissing Charlotte Robespierre, see F.V Raspail chez Albertine Marat (1911) by Albert Mathiez, page 663.

For Lucile Desmoulins predicting Marie-Antoinette would mount the scaffold, see the former’s diary from 1789.

For Lucile being friends with madame Boyer, Brune, Dubois-Crancé, Robert and Danton, calling madame Ricord’s husband ”brusque, coarse, truly mad, giddy, insane,” visiting ”an old madwoman” with madame Duplay’s son and being hit on by Danton as well as Louise Robert saying she would stab Danton, see Lucile’s diary 1792-1793.

For the relationship between Lucile Desmoulins and Marie Hébert, see this post.

For the relationship between Lucile Desmoulins and Thérèse Jeanne Fréron de la Poype, and the one between Annette Duplessis and Marguerite Philippeaux, see letters cited in Camille Desmoulins and his wife: passages from the history of the dantonists (1876) page 463-464 and 464-469.

For Adèle Duplessis having been engaged to Robespierre, see this letter from Annette Duplessis to Robespierre, seemingly written April 13 1794.

For Claire Panis helping look after Horace Desmoulins, see Panis précepteur d’Horace Desmoulins (1912) by Charles Valley.

For Élisabeth Lebas being slandered by Guffroy, molested by Danton, treated like a daughter by Claire Panis, accusing Ricord of seducing her sister-in-law and being helped out in prison by Éléonore, see Le conventionnel Le Bas : d'après des documents inédits et les mémoires de sa veuve, page 108, 125-126, 139 and 140-142.

For Élisabeth Lebas being given an obscene book by Desmoulins, see this post.

For Charlotte Robespierre dissing Joséphine, Éléonore Duplay, madame Genlis, Roland and Ricord, see Mémoires de Charlotte Robespierre sur ses deux frères (1834), page  76-77,  90-91, 96-97, 109-116 and 128-129.

For Charlotte Robespierre arriving two hours early to Rosalie Jullien’s dinner, see Journal d’une Bourgeoise pendant la Révolution 1791–1793, page 345.

For Charlotte Robespierre and Françoise Duplay’s relationship, see Mémoires de Charlotte Robespierre sur ses deux frères (1834) page 85-92 and Le conventional Le Bas: d’après des documents inédits et les mémoires de sa veuve (1902) page 104-105

For the relationship between Charlotte Robespierre and Victoire and Élisabeth Lebas, see this post.

For Charlotte Robespierre visiting madame Guffroy, moving in with madame Laporte and Victoire Duplay being arrested by one of Charlotte’s friends, see Charlotte Robespierre et ses amis (1961)

For Louise de Kéralio calling Etta Palm a spy, see Appel aux Françoises sur la régénération des mœurs et nécessité de l’influence des femmes dans un gouvernement libre (1791) by the latter.

For the relationship between Manon Roland and Louise de Kéralio Robert, see Mémoires de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 198-207 

For the relationship between Madame Pétion and Manon Roland, see Mémoires de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 158 and 244-245 as well as Lettres de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 510.

For the relationship between Madame Roland and Madame Buzot, see Mémoires de Madame Roland (1793), volume 1, page 372, volume 2, page 167 as well as this letter from Manon to her husband dated September 9 1791. For the affair between Manon and Buzot, see this post.

For Manon Roland praising Condorcet, see Mémoires de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 14-15.

For the relationship between Manon Roland and Félicité Brissot, see Mémoires de Madame Roland, volume 1, page 360.

For the relationship between Helen Maria Williams and Manon Roland, see Memoirs of the Reign of Robespierre (1795), written by the former.

For the relationship between Mary Wollstonecraft and Helena Maria Williams, see Collected letters of Mary Wollstonecraft (1979), page 226.

For Constance Charpentier painting a portrait of Louise Sébastienne Danton, see Constance Charpentier: Peintre (1767-1849), page 74.

For Olympe de Gouges writing a play with fictional versions of the Fernig sisters, see L’Entrée de Dumourier à Bruxelles ou les Vivandiers (1793) page 94-97 and 105-110.

For Olympe de Gouges calling Charlotte Corday ”a monster who has shown an unusual courage,” see a letter from the former dated July 20 1793, cited on page 204 of Marie-Olympe de Gouges: une humaniste à la fin du XVIIIe siècle (2003) by Oliver Blanc.

For Olympe de Gouges adressing her declaration to Marie-Antoinette, see Les droits de la femme: à la reine (1791) written by the former.

For Germaine de Staël defending Marie-Antoinette, see Réflexions sur le procès de la Reine par une femme (1793) by the former.

For the friendship between Madame Royale and Pauline Tourzel, see Souvernirs de quarante ans: 1789-1830: récit d’une dame de Madame la Dauphine (1861) by the latter.

For Félicité Brissot possibly translating Mary Wollstonecraft, see Who translated into French and annotated Mary Wollstonecraft’s Vindication of the Rights of Woman? (2022) by Isabelle Bour.

For Félicité Brissot working as a maid for Louise Marie Adélaïde de Bourbon, see Mémoires inédites de Madame la comptesse de Genlis: sur le dix-huitième siècle et sur la révolution française, volume 4, page 106.

For Reine Audu, Claire Lacombe and Théroigne de Méricourt being given civic crowns together, see Gazette nationale ou le Moniteur universel, September 3, 1792.

For Reine Audu taking part in the women’s march on Versailles, see Reine Audu: les légendes des journées d’octobre (1917) by Marc de Villiers.

For Marie-Antoinette calling Lamballe ”my dear heart,” see Correspondance inédite de Marie Antoinette, page 197, 209 and 252.

For Marie-Antoinette disliking Madame du Barry, see https://plume-dhistoire.fr/marie-antoinette-contre-la-du-barry/

For Marie-Antoinette disliking Anne de Noailles, see Correspondance inédite de Marie Antoinette, page 30.

For Louise-Élisabeth Tourzel and Lamballe being friends, see Memoirs of the Duchess de Tourzel: Governess to the Children of France during the years 1789, 1790, 1791, 1792, 1793 and 1795 volume 2, page 257-258

For Félicité de Genlis being the mistress of Louise Marie Adélaïde de Bourbon’s husband, see La duchesse d’Orléans et Madame de Genlis (1913).

For Pétion escorting Madame Genlis out of France, see Mémoires inédites de Madame la comptesse de Genlis…, volume 4, page 99.

For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Louise de Kéralio Robert, see Mémoires de Madame de Genlis: en un volume, page 352-354

For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Germaine de Staël, see Mémoires inédits de Madame la comptesse de Genlis, volume 2, page 316-317

For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Théophile Fernig, see Mémoires inédits de Madame la comptesse de Genlis, volume 4, page 300-304

For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Félicité Brissot, see Mémoires inédites de Madame la comptesse de Genlis, volume 4, page 106-110, as well as this letter dated June 1783 from Félicité Brissot to Félicité Genlis.

For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Théresa Cabarrus, see Mémoires de Madame de Genlis: en un volume (1857) page 391.

For Félicité de Genlis inviting Lucile to dinner, see this letter from Sillery to Desmoulins dated March 3 1791.

For Marinette Bouquey hiding the husbands of madame Buzot, Pétion and Guadet, see Romances of the French Revolution (1909) by G. Lenotre, volume 2, page 304-323

Hey, don’t say I didn’t warn you!

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The Citroën Méhari: An Unusual Car Designed By A WWII Fighter Ace

The Citroën Méhari was developed in the 1960s as one of the world’s first ABS plastic-bodied cars. It was influenced by the WWII-era Willys Jeep and the Mini Moke, and it was invented by French World War II fighter ace Count Roland de la Poype. The Méhari would remain in production for 20 years with over 140,000 of them sold, they were commonly used at beach resorts in Europe  but they were also…

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for trivia tuesday: do you have any headcanons from the poyp universe that you haven’t shared yet? whether from alex and/or willie specifically, or in general?

ooo !! yes i do 🥺 a lot of them i’ll admit i screamed at @diwata-nation about but there are a fair few! i’ve probably mentioned some of them at some point but here’s a lil list!

alex luke reggie and bobby were all in marching band together

alex played flute, luke played the oboe (badly), reggie played the saxophone, and bobby played bass clarinet

JEWISH REGGIE AND HIS JEWISH MOM ELIZA WHO IS A MILF

his parents got divorced shortly before he left for university and he still has a great relationship with his mom - he doesn’t really keep in contact with his dad too much

he still occasionally has nightmares about when his parents fights would get really bad but since moving in with the guys they’re less frequent

willie has a tattoo of a bee on his knee because even tho he’s allergic he fuckin loves bees (thank u for letting me scream about willie’s tattoos @thesunwillshineclearer 🥺)

i made a list of willie’s tattoos here if anyone’s interested in reading about them!

harrison went to med school because he loves grey’s anatomy (also...he likes helping people i guess)

whenever things would get intense at home, harrison would take noah and alex in his car and they’d drive somewhere together (maybe to get ice cream, to a drive thru, just to go to a playground somewhere etc.)

alex loves empty children’s playgrounds at night time - he hasn’t found one in LA he particularly likes to go to yet but willie introduces him to one when they get back to LA !!

eventually, alex and willie do get tattoos together

alex gets the sunset curve logo on hip - willie does actually get that drumstick on his forearm 🥺

these are just the ones i can think of right now on the fly!! thank you for asking 🥺❤️

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Suite et fin des chevaliers dauphinois tués à la Bataille de Verneuil en 1424 : environ 150 identifiés sur les 300 tués à cette bataille en 1 journée par les anglais (GUERRE de CENT ANS ) parmi les 1000 présents dans cette host,venus à cheval du Dauphiné aux côtés du Roy de FRANCE

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François PELOUX. D'argent au sautoir dentelé d'azur.

Louis de PIERRE. D'azur à trois billettes d'or, au chef cousu de gueules, chargé d'un croissant d'argent.

Antoine PILA. Coupé, au 1er de gueules à trois piliers d'or rangés; au 2e d'argent à trois roses de gueules posées 2 et 1.

Poncet de POISSIEU. De gueules au chevron brisé d'argent, surmonté d'une fasce en devise d'or.

Antoine PONCET. D'or à la fasce de gueules, accompagnée de trois têtes de loup arrachées d'azur, deux en chef et une en pointe.

Humbert de LA PORTE. De gueules à la croix d'or.

Sibeut POURRET. D'azur au chevron d'argent, accompagné de trois billettes d'or, au chef cousu de gueules.

de LA POYPEPierre de LA POYPE. De gueules à la fasce d'argent.

Rolland de LA POYPE. idem.

Blason de la famille du PuyFlorimond DU PUY. D'or au lion de gueules.

Fouquet DU PUY. idem.

Jean RAMBAUD. De sable au pin d'or, chargé au sommet d'une colombe d'argent.

de RameJean de RAME. D'argent au lion de sable armé et lampassé de gueules.

Rastel de RASTEL. D'azur au râteau d'argent accosté de deux lions affrontés d'or.

Eustache de REVEL. D'or au demi-vol de sable.

Jacques de RIVOIRE. Fascé d'argent et de gueules à la bande d'or chargé de trois fleurs de lys d'azur, brochant sur le tout.

Jean de REYNIER. De gueules à trois coquilles d'argent.

Girard RICOZ. D'or au croissant montant d'azur, duquel sortent trois branches de chêne de sinople, au chef de gueules.

Claude RIGAUD. D'azur à la bande d'or accompagnée de six losanges du même, trois en chef posées 2 et 1, et trois en pointe, côtoyant la bande.

Jean RIPERT. De gueules à la fleur de lys d'or, à la fasce d'azur brochant sur le tout.

Pierre de LA RIVIÈRE. D'or au quadril d'azur, les quatre quartiers de l'écu cannelés en forme de trèfle, brochant sur les angles du quadril.

Aymar ROBE. D'or à la bande d'azur chargée en chef d'une aigle d'argent.

Humbert de ROUSSILLON. Echiqueté d'or et d'azur de quatre traits, à la bordure de gueules.

Guillaume Roux. D'argent à trois chênes rangés de sinople, englantés d'or.

Blason de la famille de RuinatJean de RUINAT. D'azur au renard passant d'or.

Blason de la famille de RuinsPierre RUINS. D'azur à trois pommes de pin d'argent.

Guillaume de SAINT-ANDRÉ. D'argent à une aigle d'azur, onglée et becquée de gueules.

SAURETJean SAURET. D'or à la croix ancrée de gueules.

François SOFFREY. De gueules à la bande d'or accompagnée en chef d'une rose d'argent, et en pointe d'une fleur de lys du même.

Humbert du THAUC. De sinople au taureau passant d'argent.

Blason de la famille de TheysPierre de THEYS. De gueules à deux fasces engrelées d'argent.

Antoine de TIVOLAY. De gueules à la bande d'or, chargée de trois lozanges de sable.

Jean de TORCHEFELON. De gueules au chef bandé d'hermine et d'azur de six pièces.

Jean de LA TOUR. De gueules à la tour d'argent, au chef d'azur chargé de trois casques d'or, tarés de profil.

Girard de LA TOUR. Idem.

Hector de TOURNON. Parti, au 1er d'azur, semé de fleurs de lis d'or, au 2e de gueules au lion d'or.

Blason de la famille d'UrreGuillaume d'URRE. D'argent à la bande de gueules chargée en chef d'une étoile du champ.

Pierre d'URRE. Idem.

Autre Guillaume d'URRE. Idem.

Antoine de VALLIN. De gueules à la bande componée d'argent et d'azur.

à la bande componée d'argent et d'azur.

Antoine de VAUJANY. Burelé d'argent et d'azur de six pièces, au chef de gueules chargé d'un lion naissant d'or.

Sibeut de VEHYER. Coupé, emmanché de gueules et d'argent.

Guillaume de VÉRONE. D'argent au chien courant de gueules, colleté d'argent.

Blason de la famille de VeynesGuillaume de VEYNES. De gueules à trois bandes d'or.

Joffrey VIEUX. D'azur au massacre de cerf d'or.

Blason de la famille de LA VILLETTE Raymond de LA VILLETTE. De gueules à la tour d'argent, sénestrée d'un avant-mur du même.

Odobert de VINAY. De gueules à la tour d'argent, brisé d'une barre d'azur.

Jean de VIRIEU. D'azur à trois vires d'argent l'une dans l'autre.

Charles de VIRIEU. Idem.

Guillaume de VIRIEU. Idem.

François de VOUREY. De gueules au lion d'or et une bordure du même.

Lantelme d'YSERAN. D'azur au griffon d'argent, au chef cousu de gueules.

F.Rupert de Montclar.

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Anonyme a dit…

la bataille de verneuil a eu lieu le 16 aout 1424

25/01/2007 18:36

Anonyme a dit…

rectificatif :

la bataille de verneuil a eu lieu le 17 août 1424.

le 16 la ville avait été prise par ruse par les français aidés d'archers écossais . (cf.auld alliance)

25/02/2007 15:52

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Image taken from page 20 of 'La Poype de Villars-les-Dombes et ses fouilles. (Extrait des Annales de la Société d'Émulation de l'Ain.) [With plates.]'

Image taken from: Title: "La Poype de Villars-les-Dombes et ses fouilles. (Extrait des Annales de la Société d'Émulation de l'Ain.) [With plates.]" Author: BUCHE, Joseph. Shelfmark: "British Library HMNTS 10175.pp.9." Page: 20 Place of Publishing: Bourg Date of Publishing: 1899 Issuance: monographic Identifier: 000514619 Explore: Find this item in the British Library catalogue, 'Explore'. Download the PDF for this book (volume: 0) Image found on book scan 20 (NB not necessarily a page number) Download the OCR-derived text for this volume: (plain text) or (json) Click here to see all the illustrations in this book and click here to browse other illustrations published in books in the same year. Order a higher quality version from here. from BLPromptBot http://ift.tt/2i4eU8R

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Герой Советского Союза летчик маркиз Ролан де ля Пуап

  Герой Советского Союза летчик маркиз Ролан де ля Пуап (Roland Paulze d'Ivoy de la Poype) был одним из лучших французских летчиков-истребителей Второй мировой войны, сражался в составе авиаполка «Нормандия-Неман» на советско-германском фронте. Ролан родился 28 июля 1920 г. в городе Прадо (департамент Пюи-де-Дом, Овернь), в семье потомственных аристократов. Он с ранних лет был увлечён аэронавтикой, и поэтому в августе 1939 года вступил в ВВС Франции, став курсантом летной школы в городе Анже. Уже 15 марта 1940 года Ролан получил пилотское свидетельство, после чего был направлен для повышения квалификации в лётное училище в городе Этамп. Однако закончить это училище де ля Пуап не успел: в мае 1940 г германские войска вторглись во Францию, и после капитуляции страны, 21 июня 1940 года, недоучившийся лётчик был вынужден эмигрировать на польском судне в Великобританию.

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Is there a list of frev figures who claimed to be at the storming of the Bastille? The people I know who said they at least witnessed it is pretty eclectic like Herault, Léon and Saint-Just.

I found all the (official?) ”vainqueurs de la Bastille” listed in alfabethical order here (1889). However, according to Michael J. Sydenham’s Léonard Bourdon: The Career of a Revolutionary, 1754-1807, who’s subject of study claimed to belong to this group, simply holding this title was not a guarantee that you had actually taken part in the storming itself:

The only people found on the list that I myself recognized were those of the dantonist Louis Legendre, the girondin Claude Fauchet and the general Antoine Joseph Santerre. I therefore don’t know if the people claiming to have participated in the storming here below are just lying (saying you played a role in it after all being something that would easily better your patriotic reputation) or if their participation just wasn’t recorded (which doesn’t sound particulary hard to be true either):

Stanislas Fréron claims in a letter to Lucile Desmoulins dated October 18 1793, that both he, Barras and La Poype ”besieged” the Bastille.

Pierre Nicolas Berryer wrote in his memoirs that the Convention deputy Bourdon d’Oise participated in the storming of the Bastille, and still kept the blood stained coat he had worn during it five years later:

At the same time, and as if he felt the need to convince me even more of the strength of his mind, [Bourdon] took out from under his bed an oblong casket, in which was tucked the coat he had worn on the day of the storming of the Bastille… […] He took great care to point out to me that his coat was still covered with stains from the blood he had spilled at the Bastille. 

Albert Mathiez summarized in the article La vie de Héron racontée par lui-même (1925) a memoir the Committee of General Security spy François Héron wrote while imprisoned after thermidor. In it, he would have claimed to have participated in the storming of the Bastille, as well as the women’s march on Versailles, the demonstration of June 20 and the Insurrection of August 10.

According to Dictionnaire des parlementaires français (…) de 1789 à 1889, Jacques-Alexis Thuriot took part in the storming.

Regarding some more well known guys and their Bastille activities, Desmoulins, in a letter written to his father written July 16, leaves a rather detailed description of the storming. Through the following part, he does however indicate that he himself missed it:

Then, the cannon of the French Guards made a breach. Bourgeois, soldiers, everyone rushes forward. An engraver climbs up first, they throw him down and break his legs. A luckier French guard followed him, seized a gunner, defended himself, and the place was stormed in half an hour. I started running at the first cannon shot, but the Bastille was already taken, in two and a half hours, a miracle that is.

Camille also adds that, on July 15, he was among the people who scaled the ruins of the stormed Bastille:

However, I felt even more joy the day before, when I climbed into the breach (montai sur la brèche) of the surrendered Bastille, and the flag of the Guards and the bourgeois militias was raised there. The most zealous patriots were there. We embraced each other, we kissed the hands of the French guards, crying with joy and intoxication.

On July 23 1789, Robespierre wrote a letter to Antoine Buissart telling him he had gotten to see the ”liberated” Bastille, but he had of course not participated in the storming himself:

I’ve seen the Bastille, I was taken there by a detachment of the brave bourgeois militia that had taken it; because after leaving town hall, on the day of the king's trip, the armed citizens took pleasure in escorting out of honor the deputies they met, and they could only march among acclamations from the people. What a delightful abode the Bastille has been since it came into the power of the people, its dungeons are empty and a multitude of workers work tirelessly to demolish this odious monument to tyranny! I could not tear myself away from this place, the sight of which only gives sensations of pleasure and ideas of liberty to all good citizens.

According to Danton: le mythe et l’histoire (2016), Danton did not take part in the actual storming of the Bastille, however, the following day he went to the abandoned prison and took the provisional governor hostage:

Absent from the storming of the Bastille, it was on the night of July 15 to 16 that Danton took action. At the head of a patrol of the bourgeois guard of his district, of which he proclaimed himself captain, he claimed, we do not know in what capacity, to enter the "castle of the Bastille,” placed under the control of the elector Soulès, as provisional governor. Without worrying about his powers, Danton has him kidnapped and taken to City Hall, surrounded by a threatening crowd. But Soulès was released the next day upon the intervention of La Fayette; Danton's initiative was openly disavowed and blamed by the assembly of electors.

According to Clifford D. Connor, Marat wrote the following about his activities on July 14 1789 in number 36 of l’Ami du peuple (12 November 1789):

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Do we have any idea when Horace returned from the wetnurse ?

We don’t have any exact date, but some observations can nevertheless be made.

Horace was born on July 6 1792, baptised the 8th and sent to a wetnurse on the 9th (as seen through Lucile’s diary). We know through a letter Camille sent his father on July 12 that the wet nurse lived in Isle-Adam, about 60 km away from Rue du Théâtre 1 (today Rue de l’Odeon 28) where the Desmoulins couple lived (I don’t know exactly how long it would take to travel in a carriage between these two places).

Already in a letter written around ten days later, Camille tells Lucile, who has gone to rest up in the countryside (around 50 km from Isle-Adam), that ”I do not venture to speak to you about your baby, lest I should bring you tears into your eyes,” which seems like a clear indicator Horace is still with his wet nurse and that this caused Lucile pain. Only a few sentences later Camille tells her to ”kiss Daronne and Horace for me,” which could instead be read as implying Horace had already been brought over to his mother. That could also be the case when Lucile on July 28 writes in her diary: ”my little one is doing well.” I do however think it sounds more logical that Camille is just being sentimental and that Lucile’s simply received a letter from the wet nurse or even gone to visit her son herself, given the fact not even a month had passed since Horace’s birth when these texts were written.

On December 12 1792 Lucile picks up writing her diary again after having stayed silent for five months. ”O my child,” she writes that day, ”my dear child, what palpitation I feel when thinking of you! My son! Why then does this word make my tears flow?…” This sentence, which offers too little information for us to tell whether Horace has been reunited with his mother or not, is the only mention Lucile makes of him from this moment up until February 16 1793, a period during which she consistently keeps a diary. To me, it therefore comes off as unlikely he would have returned home somewhere during the spam of these two months, because wouldn’t that be something worth writing down for Lucile? The total absence of Horace in the entries also invite me to believe he hadn’t come home in the five months she’s not written anything either.

Just three days after the last diary entry, February 16, Lucile, while in Essonne together with Camille, does however write a letter to her mother back in Paris asking her to ”write to me if my little one is doing well,” which at first seems to be a clear indicator Horace is back in the capital. However, in the very same letter Lucile also asks her mother to come and join her and Camille at the place where they currently are, and four days later she again writes to tell her about her sister Adèle eventually joining them too. Would it be true that Horace had come back to Paris by then, we might therefore ask who was supposed to look after him, since apparently all his female relatives can get out of town without any issues. Was it the Desmoulins’ maid Jeannette, who lived in the same building as them?

A speculation I’ve had is that the reason Lucile’s diary entries end so abruptly in February is because she after this had a baby to look after, meaning she wouldn’t have been able to go out and do stuff as much as before. Madame Danton and Madame Robert did however have children born in 1790, 1792 and 1791 respectively, and as can be seen through the diary, this does in no way hinder them from vistiting the theater and other people’s homes together with Lucile. So I don’t know if all these girls had nannies looking after their kids for them, or if the kids are with them and Lucile just never mentions them.

We have this letter that Fréron’s little sister Thérèse Jeanne, wife of the general Jean François de La Poype, sent to Lucile. However, it’s unfortunately undated, and I can’t tell when it was written through the context either, but I take it as implying Horace was still with the wet nurse when it was penned down:

Coubertin, Monday morning.  How good you are, my dear Lucile, to take such pains to answer so punctually, and to relieve my anxiety! rely upon your kindness to let me know any good news when you know it yourself. Neither my husband nor my brother has written to me; but, according to what you tell me, M. De la Poype will be with you immediately. Scold him well, I beg, my dear Lucile, and beat him even, if you think it necessary; I give him over to you. Goodbye, dear aunt; I embrace you with all my heart. Do tell me about your pretty boy; is he well? We shall, I hope, see him at some time together. (Parlez-moi donc de votre joli enfant; se porte-t-il bien ? Nous irons, j'espère, le voir quelquefois ensemble). Be the first to tell me of my husband's arrival; it will be so sweet to owe my happiness to you! Fanny (Thérèse Jeanne’s daughter) is perfectly well. I received most tenderly the kiss she gave me from you. My compliments to your husband.  Fréron de la Poype Coubertin, near Chevreuse.

On August 1 1793 we get a good indicator Horace is back with his parents, as Camille on that date writes to his father:

I felt even more just now, in seeing my son, how sensible this blow (of having read that your son died in battle) must have been go your heart. My wife and I have been very touched by the interest that you show for this child so amiable and whom we love so much that I have a horrible fear of losing him. […] Where is the asylum, the underground where I could hide from all eyes with my wife, my child and my books?

We also know Horace was home in time for Robespierre to have held him in his arms ”so many times”as Lucile herself puts it in a letter written during her last weeks on Earth. Something which I assume he stopped doing at least after he and Camille fell out with each other in January 1794, and being a member of the Committee of Public Safety from July 27 1793 and forward might also have decreased the opportunities.

In the letter dated July 12 1792, where Camille tells his father Horace has been sent to a wet nurse, he mentions it’s the same one Danton’s youngest son François-Georges, who was born on February 2 1792, currently finds himself with. In the aftermath of the Insurrection of May 31 1793, Fabre d’Eglantine holds a speech where he reports that Danton at the end of August 1792 exclaimed: ”I’ve brought here my mother who is 70 years old; I’ve brought here my two children; they arrived yesterday. Before the Prussians enter Paris, I want my family to perish, I want 20 000 torches in an instant to turn Paris into a pile of ashes” when the idea of fleeing the capital and emerging foreign armies was brought up. This would imply François-Georges could do without the wet nurse after half a year spent there, standards we might assume were applied to other children taken in there as well, Horace included. This would fit rather well with the assumption Horace was home by February 1793, when Lucile writes to ask her mother for news about him…

Finally, we also have this family portrait attributed to either David or his school. I think Horace looks rather young on it, not appearing to have grown any hair yet, but it’s hard to tell exactly how old he is meant to be here:

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Suite et fin des chevaliers tués à la Bataille de Verneuil identifiés (env.150 sur les 300 tués pendant cette terrible journée )

Ils étaient 1000 au début de la journée de l’host du Dauphiné venus combattre au côté de leur nouveau suzerain : Le Roy de France (30% losses KIA) :

Pierre NOIR. De gueules à la bande engrêlée d'argent.

Guillaume de PALADRU. De gueules au poisson d'argent mis en bande.

François PELOUX. D'argent au sautoir dentelé d'azur.

Louis de PIERRE. D'azur à trois billettes d'or, au chef cousu de gueules, chargé d'un croissant d'argent.

Antoine PILA. Coupé, au 1er de gueules à trois piliers d'or rangés; au 2e d'argent à trois roses de gueules posées 2 et 1.

Poncet de POISSIEU. De gueules au chevron brisé d'argent, surmonté d'une fasce en devise d'or.

Antoine PONCET. D'or à la fasce de gueules, accompagnée de trois têtes de loup arrachées d'azur, deux en chef et une en pointe.

Humbert de LA PORTE. De gueules à la croix d'or.

Sibeut POURRET. D'azur au chevron d'argent, accompagné de trois billettes d'or, au chef cousu de gueules.

de LA POYPEPierre de LA POYPE. De gueules à la fasce d'argent.

Rolland de LA POYPE. idem.

Blason de la famille du PuyFlorimond DU PUY. D'or au lion de gueules.

Fouquet DU PUY. idem.

Jean RAMBAUD. De sable au pin d'or, chargé au sommet d'une colombe d'argent.

de RameJean de RAME. D'argent au lion de sable armé et lampassé de gueules.

Rastel de RASTEL. D'azur au râteau d'argent accosté de deux lions affrontés d'or.

Eustache de REVEL. D'or au demi-vol de sable.

Jacques de RIVOIRE. Fascé d'argent et de gueules à la bande d'or chargé de trois fleurs de lys d'azur, brochant sur le tout.

Jean de REYNIER. De gueules à trois coquilles d'argent.

Girard RICOZ. D'or au croissant montant d'azur, duquel sortent trois branches de chêne de sinople, au chef de gueules.

Claude RIGAUD. D'azur à la bande d'or accompagnée de six losanges du même, trois en chef posées 2 et 1, et trois en pointe, côtoyant la bande.

Jean RIPERT. De gueules à la fleur de lys d'or, à la fasce d'azur brochant sur le tout.

Pierre de LA RIVIÈRE. D'or au quadril d'azur, les quatre quartiers de l'écu cannelés en forme de trèfle, brochant sur les angles du quadril.

Aymar ROBE. D'or à la bande d'azur chargée en chef d'une aigle d'argent.

Humbert de ROUSSILLON. Echiqueté d'or et d'azur de quatre traits, à la bordure de gueules.

Guillaume Roux. D'argent à trois chênes rangés de sinople, englantés d'or.

Blason de la famille de RuinatJean de RUINAT. D'azur au renard passant d'or.

Blason de la famille de RuinsPierre RUINS. D'azur à trois pommes de pin d'argent.

Guillaume de SAINT-ANDRÉ. D'argent à une aigle d'azur, onglée et becquée de gueules.

SAURETJean SAURET. D'or à la croix ancrée de gueules.

François SOFFREY. De gueules à la bande d'or accompagnée en chef d'une rose d'argent, et en pointe d'une fleur de lys du même.

Humbert du THAUC. De sinople au taureau passant d'argent.

Blason de la famille de TheysPierre de THEYS. De gueules à deux fasces engrelées d'argent.

Antoine de TIVOLAY. De gueules à la bande d'or, chargée de trois lozanges de sable.

Jean de TORCHEFELON. De gueules au chef bandé d'hermine et d'azur de six pièces.

Jean de LA TOUR. De gueules à la tour d'argent, au chef d'azur chargé de trois casques d'or, tarés de profil.

Girard de LA TOUR. Idem.

Hector de TOURNON. Parti, au 1er d'azur, semé de fleurs de lis d'or, au 2e de gueules au lion d'or.

Blason de la famille d'UrreGuillaume d'URRE. D'argent à la bande de gueules chargée en chef d'une étoile du champ.

Pierre d'URRE. Idem.

Autre Guillaume d'URRE. Idem.

Antoine de VALLIN. De gueules à la bande componée d'argent et d'azur.

Antoine de VAUJANY. Burelé d'argent et d'azur de six pièces, au chef de gueules chargé d'un lion naissant d'or.

Sibeut de VEHYER. Coupé, emmanché de gueules et d'argent.

Guillaume de VÉRONE. D'argent au chien courant de gueules, colleté d'argent.

Blason de la famille de VeynesGuillaume de VEYNES. De gueules à trois bandes d'or.

Joffrey VIEUX. D'azur au massacre de cerf d'or.

Blason de la famille de LA VILLETTERaymond de LA VILLETTE. De gueules à la tour d'argent, sénestrée d'un avant-mur du même.

Odobert de VINAY. De gueules à la tour d'argent, brisé d'une barre d'azur.

Jean de VIRIEU. D'azur à trois vires d'argent l'une dans l'autre.

Charles de VIRIEU. Idem.

Guillaume de VIRIEU. Idem.

François de VOUREY. De gueules au lion d'or et une bordure du même.

Lantelme d'YSERAN. D'azur au griffon d'argent, au chef cousu de gueules.

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