#Lady maria x ludwig

[wxnheart]

Could you please make a list like this one with Bloodborne characters? ♡

https://www.tumblr.com/whatdoyoumeanitsnotcanon/686091554519121920/hmmwhat-about-a-list-of-what-kind-of-kisser?source=share

Gentle pecks, light brushes, soft kisses:

Maria - It is soft but tastes like... regret.

The Doll - Would "taste" like purity and... yearning?

Arianna - It is sweet, like a delicate pastry.

Annalise - (if she could) it would be metallic. And regal. Like an abomination.

Adella - It tastes like envy. And fear.

Gilbert - Like... mortality.

Firm, thorough, and leaves you breathless:

Gascoigne - It... it tastes feral.

Henryk - Like a lifetime of scars and loneliness.

Eileen - Simply, purely HER.

Laurence (When he was human) - Like... conviction.

Ludwig (When he, too, was also human) - He tastes like righteousness.

You call that a kiss? Let them show you how it's done:

Alfred - Tastes like obsession.

Micolash - Is in a league all his own.

Also, Eileen - You thought you had the best of her?

Gehrman - Like... a desire for freedom.

Djura - Enough said.

[fareehaandspaniards]

I tried to collect the most popular ships with Micolash :'D

So there are from up to down, from left to right - Laurence, Ludwig, Maria, Rom, Edgar, Damian and Hunter (in my case he is male)

I have a lot of work to do but that drawing somehow happened xd

[fantomette22]

Prom Night, Goes Wrong (part 1)

The scholastic year is coming to an end. During the ball to celebrated the end of their examinations, a student accidentally made a disturbing discovery in a place were they shouldn’t be normally allowed.

Push by curiosity and concern, a little group decide to investigate.

One question is on their mind. What dark secrets could possibly hide Byrgenwerth ?

And here’s another little bloodborne story set at Byrgenwerth i hope to tell and write one day !

Characters (all students at the time) : Damian, Micolash, Rom, Maria, Charles an « oc » (he actually fit in the lore), Caryll, Ludwig.

Alternative versions :

[astrxealis]

sorry (not really) guys if you see me return to my obsessed w final fantasy (all), ivalice ffxiv voicelines, bloodborne era rn

[ourstaturestouchtheskies]

taylor swift lyrics x colors x textiles in art – blue

Tim McGraw – Taylor Swift // Portrait of Marie-Joseph Peyre – Marie-Suzanne Giroust 💙 Tim McGraw – Taylor Swift // Lady in the Boudoir – Gustav Holweg-Glantschnigg 💙 A Place in This World – Taylor Swift // Portrait of Prince William Henry, Duke of Gloucester – Jean-Étienne Liotard 💙 Dear John – Speak Now // Young Woman in a Blue Dress – Jacopo Negretti 💙 State of Grace – Red // Portrait of Mrs. Matthew Tilghman and her Daughter – John Hesselius 💙 Red – Red // An Unknown Man – Joseph Highmore 💙 All Too Well – Red // Portrait of a Man with a Quilted Sleeve – Titian 💙 Everything Has Changed – Red // Portrait of the Marquis de Saint-Paul – Jean-Baptiste Greuze 💙 Starlight – Red // Mrs. Richard Brown – John Hesselius 💙 Run – Red // Judith with the Head of Holofernes – Felice Ficherelli 💙 This Love – 1989 // Fair Rosamund – John William Waterhouse 💙 Delicate – Reputation // Miss Elizabeth Ingram – Joshua Reynolds 💙 Gorgeous – Reputation // Marguerite Hessein, Lady of Rambouillet de la Sablière – workshop of Henri and Charles Beaubrun 💙 Dancing with Our Hands Tied – Reputation // George Albert, Prince of East Frisia – Johann Conrad Eichler

Cruel Summer – Lover // Peter August Friedrich von Koskull – Michael Ludwig Claus 💙 Lover – Lover // Lady Oxenden – Joseph Wright of Derby 💙 Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince – Lover // Portrait of Ivan Ivanovich Betskoi – Alexander Roslin 💙 Paper Rings – Lover // Young Woman in a Blue Dress – Jacopo Negretti 💙 London Boy – Lover // Queen Henrietta Maria with Sir Jeffrey Hudson – Anthony van Dyck 💙 Afterglow – Lover // Portrait of Prince Dmitry Mikhailovich Golitsyn – Fyodor Rokotov 💙 Christmas Tree Farm – Christmas Tree Farm // Portrait of Mary Ruthven, Lady van Dyck – Anthony van Dyck 💙 invisible string – folklore // Two Altar Wings with the Visitation of Mary – unknown artist 💙 invisible string – folklore // Portrait of Madame de Pompadour – François Boucher 💙 peace – folklore // Fair Rosamund – John William Waterhouse 💙 hoax – folklore // Portrait of Charles le Normant du Coudray – Jean-Baptiste Perronneau 💙 coney island – evermore // Portrait of the Marquis de Saint-Paul – Jean-Baptiste Greuze 💙 Carolina – Carolina // Mrs. Daniel Sargent – John Singleton Copley 💙 Bejeweled – Midnights // Elsa Elisabeth Brahe – David Klöcker Ehrenstrahl 💙 The Great War – Midnights // Portrait of Françoise Marie de Bourbon – attributed to François de Troy 💙 Hits Different – Midnights // Mrs. Benjamin Pickman – John Singleton Copley

[katyspersonal]

Bloodborne starter pack (in case if I’ll need one)

Canon:

+ - Rom is a she/her, as confirmed by Miyazaki in interview!

+ Doctor Iosefka is replaced with Impostor Iosefka after you *enter the Cathedral Ward, so there are two characters in her clinic. Impostor’s name is not revealed. According to data and art book portraits they look identical, however! (upd: in first post version I made a mistake, saying Impostor replaces after Amelia dies)

+ Gascoigne has TWO daughters, not one! His older daughter is only met if you follow questline with little girl accurately, though.

+ Besides Gascoigne's older daughter, characters more or less easy to miss by players are Old Hunter Henryk, Crow of Cainhurst, Afflicted Beggar, Djura's Apprentice, Queen of Vilebloods and Martyr Logarius. Also never getting to see Lonely Old Dear, Suspicious Man and Arianna in person might happen. Basically the cast is wider than it appears!

+ Very obscure characters you might never learn about unless you get a specific item include: Graveguard Dores, Irreverent Izzy, King of Cainhurst, older Madaras Twin, Archibald the eccentric of the Healing Church, Caryll, Gratia... They are not just "popular OCs", nope!

+ According to the figma creators, Lady Maria is 6′7 (204 cm) and the Hunter is 5′11 (180 cm) ( x ) - they explain it from 6:40 to 7:05! Very useful information, especially considering Gascoigne’s model is taller than Maria’s, and Gehrman’s is EVEN taller than Gascoigne’s.

+ Most NPCs have face data mined by Zullie the Witch and available here: ( x )

+ Characters without canon design:

fully obscure: Izzy, Archibald, Caryll, King of Cainhurst

only their clothes are known: Gatekeeper, Eileen, Crow of Cainhurst, Dores, several NPC hunters using ‘default’ model (Yharnam one in Nightmare Frontier, Bone Ash and Cainhurst hunters in dungeons, a Yahar’gul hunter fighting next to the one with a shield and a Tonitrus, Izzy’s Admirer, Gremia, a hostile tomb prospector hunter in Isz

not seen as human / alive: Laurence, Ludwig, Adeline, Logarius

Fanon:

+ Eileen is drawn as black in most cases inspired by her English voice actor, devs alas just put default face data on her though

+ The cute girl wearing the same outfit as Micolash you see in fanarts is in 95% of the cases an interpretation of Rom before she became a spider, since Micolash saying 'as you did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes' implies right away she is ascended Great One, not born.

+ THE most popular ships are Mariadeline (Lady Maria x Saint Adeline), Valtmura (Valtr Master of the League x Yamamura the Wanderer), Holyvicar (Laurence the first Vicar x Ludwig the Holy Blade) and Alfhunter (Alfred x the hunter)

+ Micolash might be drawn with brown or blue eyes, Yurie might be drawn as blonde or brunette, Edgar might be drawn as blonde or redhead... The reason for Micolash is difference between his cutscene model and hunter one; meanwhile Edgar and Yurie are redhead and blonde according to face data but do not have obvious colors from found screenshots, that's why variety of colors in fanart!

+ Annalise is depicted as a redhead in concept art and on one of the Cainhurst portraits, however, hence why she might be not ‘blonde’ in fanart.

+ Stuff like 'Church spread Ashen Blood to motivate citizens to use blood ministration', 'Ludwig merged with his horse', 'Mergo is son of Oedon and Queen Yharnam is his wife' and 'Edgar infiltrated Yahar'gul and got stuck' are just the most accepted theories - they work, but canon also provides enough base for alternative takes.

+ Many people dunking on Gehrman snowballed from localisation errors such as 'Even the Doll should it please you' and 'his curious mania' + the fact he made a Victorian grieving doll of his dead student.

[blood-darkened-moon]

Bloodborne

Characters The Hunter | Plain Doll | The Choir | Alfred Hunter of Vilebloods | Annalise Queen of the Vilebloods | Eileen the Crow | Bloody Crow of Cainhurst | Imposter Iosefka | Iosefka | Mergo | Valtr Master of the League | Yurie the Last Scholar | Old Hunter Henryk | Retired Hunter Djura | Mensis Scholar Damian | Arianna Woman of Pleasure | Adella the Nun | Brador Church Assassin | Simon Seeker of Secrets | Edgar Choir Intelligencer | Patches the Spider | Viola | Young Yharnam Girl | Older Sister | Saint Adeline | Master Willem | Gilbert | Oedon Chapel Dweller | Yamamura the Wanderer | Fishing Hamlet Priest | Runesmith Caryll | Lumenwood Kin | Suspicious Beggar

Bosses Cleric Beast | Father Gascoigne | Vicar Amelia | Witch of Hemwick | Blood-Starved Beast | Shadows of Yharnam | Darkbeast Paarl | Rom the Vacuous Spider | The One Reborn | Amygdala | Micolash Host of the Nightmare | Mergo's Wet Nurse | Martyr Logarius | Celestial Emissary | Ebrietas Daughter of the Cosmos | Gehrman the First Hunter | Moon Presence | Watchdog of the Old Lords | Keeper of the Old Lords | Yharnam Pthumerian Queen | Ludwig the Accursed/Ludwig the Holy Blade | Living Failures | Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower | Orphan of Kos | Laurence the First Vicar

Enemies and Others Brain of Mensis | Kos | Snail Woman | Augur of Ebrietas | Infant Great One | Great One | Messengers | Celestial Minion | Celestial Child | Shark-Giant | Rabid Dog/Crow-Headed Dog | Carrion Crow/Dog-Headed Crow | Bestial Hunter | Winter Lantern | Church Servant | Chapel Giants | Mad One | Enlarged Head Patient | Enlarged Head Giant | Silver Lady | Bloodsucking Beast | Gargoyle | Snatcher | Scourge Beast | Beast Patient | Brainsucker | Wheelchair Huntsman | Maneater Boar | Hamlet Fishmen | Younger Madaras Twin | Older Madaras Twin | Labyrinth Rat

Ships/Groups Ludwig x Laurence | Gascoigne x Viola | The Doll and Maria

Others Bloodborne Kart | BB Trivia | BB Meta | BB Weapon

[fareehaandspaniards]

Farese! For the ask game

12.How do you feel about the Plain Doll?

15. Favorite build? 16. Favorite starter class?

19.Favorite Old Hunter?

12. How do you feel about the Plain Doll?

I love her so much!

But I don't love how her fans mostly see her. Obedient, gratuitously loyal and immediately loving maiden, "perfect waifu". It annoys me when she's only loved for her helplessness, also adding pervert stuff from incorrect localization.

But getting away from the topic of hating, the NPC herself fascinates me. She's something chthonic and ancient, an echo of Maria's soul, absorbed into her feelings and Gehrman's, mixed with the power of the Great Ones themselves. I have a headcanon that sometimes the Doll responds and speaks phrases of Maria from different times, scaring and breaking Gehrman's heart. She sounds so vivid and real, like it's the real Maria standing in front of him.

At first, I associated her with the flashlight of a fish - an angler. Only in the role of the fish is the Moon Presence.

But that was wrong. The Doll is independent, nonetheless!

I also believe that her clothes are analogous to what Maria wore during the peace time in Yharnam. Only Herman made these clothes himself, especially for Doll, thus expressing his love. But Lady Maria herself wore EXACTLY the same set of clothes, just simpler.

Sometimes Doll prays for Gehrman's peace in death, and this also puts a great deal of pressure on his already disturbed psyche.

I love her as a chthonic spawn <3

15. Favorite build

Strength/Dex + Arcane. I'm very corny and went through the game with a saw cleaver, and ended up getting so used to that weapon that I had a BIG deal of trouble switching to another weapon xD

16. Favorite starter class?

Waste of skin!

19. Favorite Old Hunter

I would choose Tomb Prospector Olek, but does he count as an Old Hunter? Technically yes I think. Also a Queen Killer! I think of him as an old Logarius' friend and even former mentor, who helped him to realise and comprehend the vision that became a Radiance rune.

But if we look only at the DLC. Let it be Ludwig and Maria. I can't choose sorry x)

[fantomette22]

One shot: Return from the hunting lesson 

Alright ! I have written a lil something ! It's actually based on one of the first little funny Bloodborne sketches I've drawn.

I decided to draw it properly as well (A little comic in 4 cases). But it will come a bit later I need to draw it properly x)

It's also supposed to be a part of a bigger story. If I ever managed to really write it down. So I guess it's some kind of preview/beta for you and training for me (I'm sorry I dunno how to write dialogue efficiently or smoothly help). It's a draft so things might change of course (so don't be afraid of the 3 smileys I put XD they will disappear in due time). Apologies for the lack of context as well but it's supposed to be in the middle of a bigger chapter. In the middle of the first fic. But it can work independently too and I've wanted to put it on paper since a while. I still hope you will enjoyed.

Return from the hunting lesson :

Campus of Byrgenwerth, years before the official founding of the Healing Church.

Laurence was pensive. If he couldn’t find them himself, he will just go ask everyone he could came cross. Someone had to know something about it!

After spending sometimes running and asking around the few persons he could find, with no succeed, he noticed two young men walking towards him. Micolash seems to be in the middle of an explanation and Ludwig was listening attentively.

He interpellated them, “Micolash, Ludwig! Would you have a minute?”

 “Oh Hello Laurence :D !” said an overjoyed Ludwig. 

Then Micolash replied more calmly, “Of course, what do you need Laurence?”

“I wanted to ask if any of you have seen Maria or Gehrman recently?”

Micolash thought a few seconds before answering: “Not since a few days, I think, why?”

Laurence sighed “I fear you would say that…”

Ludwig questioned him : “What do you mean? Is everything alright?”

“Well, the Cainhurst nobles have arrived, so their presence is required. But most importantly, I’m a bit worried because no one seem to have seen any of them since a few days…”

“But aren’t they training in the woods the entire week?” replied a confused Ludwig.

“Yes, they are. They usually go at the first hours of the morning and come back before night. But they didn’t come back yesterday evening and they were supposed to come back today at least. You could think they might have went camping and spend the night in the forest. I wouldn’t be surprised but no one saw them before yesterday as well. Nothing since two days ! A student even claimed to have seen a creature in the forest as well…”

Micolash was left puzzled “Hm… this is concerning. Something would have happened to them? Or to one of them?"

“Oh, I hope they’re ok!” exclaimed a very worried Ludwig.

While they were talking, a figure passed through the bushes with difficulty. They fell silents, looked in its direction and were left completely astonished.

It was Maria. 

She seems a bit lost, carrying a big sac and a smaller messenger bag over her shoulder, but it was her appearance that was rather unusual. With leaves in her hair, her clothes were covered in dirt and…could that be blood as well?

“MARIA ?!”

She turned her head toward them a bit confused before answering : “Oh hello! How are you all doing?”

The three came right in front of her, Laurence was the first to questioned her “Maria are you alright? What happened?” 

“Yes, I’m alright and what do you mean? We were hunting like you’re aware of”

“We had no news of you both for days! We grew worried… Where’s Gehrman ?!”

“Well… we spend last night in the woods and before yesterday at the village...But we did get back at night to get a few things, and Gehrman-” She looked around. “Didn’t arrived yet…” She then turned toward the forest to shout “Over here!” 

A moments later he emerged between the dense leaves and branches. He was too carrying an imposing sac and was covered in a bloody dirt as well. He had a rifle on his back. “Hello everyone.” 

Laurence chuckle in relief.

“So…  did this hunting lesson worked out?” asked Ludwig.

A big grin appeared on Gehrman’s face. “It did!” He put the sac on the ground and began to open it. At the same time Maria handed a small sac she gets from her bag. “Here Micolash. If I recalled, you and Rom wanted to examine a venomous maggot? Well, we found this dead one”

He took it “Oh thank you very much Maria! That is correct you remember well! I’m sure our dear friend will be very happy.”

From his own, Gehrman pulled out the head of an imposing boar. “Tada!”

The trio was taken aback once again. 

“That’s huge! Hold on… there’s things like that in the woods ?!” Ludwig said like he was scared.

“Oh just a few.”

“So, you two hunts down a boar?” questioned Laurence. 

“Mostly yes. But it’s not the only thing…” Maria answered. The teacher’s eyes look down at the close sac beside her. 

Gehrman cough to get their attention “Well she killed a boar.” 

“Yeah i…I killed a boar...”

“That’s quite impressive! All by yourself?”

“Well Gehrman helped me-“

“Oh, I just help to distracted it. You deserve the entire praise on this one.” A big smile appears on the face of the younger hunter.

“Where is the rest of it too?” asked Micolash.

“We couldn’t take all of it with us, so we left the rest to the villagers and the snakes I guess” answered the other hunter.

The student continued : “You two are covered in so much mud! Better jump right now into the sea to wash up x) !

“Thanks, but I think we’re fine. We got time to clean up after all.”

“Well… actually Cainhurst had already arrived.” Laurence informed them.

“What. Oh”  Oh no no no ! I’m so screwed I can’t show up like this !

Gehrman noticed her distressed. “Don’t worry- Hm… just go! I got it!”

“Really? Oh, thank you!” She then starts running extremely fast across the campus in direction of her dorm.

“Well, I think we should all get going as well” proposed Laurence. 

They began to walk, after saying goodbye, Micolash and Ludwig went in their own direction.

“So, what’s in this one?” Laurence asked, pointing at the smaller sac Maria was caring earlier.

“Something I need to show master Willem…and you.” Laurence looks at him with an interrogating look. “Do you remember the dog lost by the prospectors in the labyrinth a few weeks ago?”

“Hm yes? Oh ! Let me guess… you find his remains at the surface didn’t you?”

“It’s more him who find us...” 

“What?” 

“Laurence. That thing… whatever it was, it wasn’t the dog we knew. The way he attacked us… We just put an end to his suffering.” He sighed “I will explain more later. Not here...”

“Alright I understand… Do you plan to do that right now?” 

“I was thinking of showing the boar head to our noble visitors before. I believe they will appreciate it. As well as to be made aware of the progress of their future knight.’’

“Certainly, let’s get going then.”

[lizardliker420]

unfinished soulsborne art dump. if you couldn’t tell, i love gwyndolin 

[katyahina]

Let's analyze Gehrman, Maria and the Doll! (yeah my headcanons are here too)

Okaaaay so, I am (in a way) newbie of the fandom, however, I have seen everything about these people - ranging from happy ship of the two to the creepy mysogynist Gehrman ideas, so I needed to do my own research on what the heck could have happened here! As always, I am going to use excerpts from original Japanese script (provided by Last Protagonist's document (x) to avoid 'translators done goofed' effect, besides this time it IS kinda important), so if you see cranky-worded versions of familiar descs that's why.

* Connection between Maria and the Doll

I think this one is to be taken as an axiom, however, just in case, here are some things that we can confirm from Doll's behaviour:

So, what we can confirm for sure is that for some reason, killing Lady Maria makes Doll feel relieved... Which, besides her connection to Maria via appearance she's based off, creates strange mental link. But also what I find very interesting is that when we approach Lady Maria, she appears to be in a napping position herself - until we approach her close enough for her to grab us and the battle to start. Yet, we also catch Doll napping at times - something dolls are not supposed to do, as beings without 'our' physical needs, yet she does nap...

Her exact phrase is 'すみません、私は、どこかに⋯' (Sumimasen, watashi wa, doko ka ni ⋯), and well... 'sumimasen' is a familiar expression of apology and 'watashi wa' is a form to say 'I/me', but 'doko ka ni' is actually a very clear reference to someplace. Somewhere. It is kind of a cornerstone to my theory that Doll and Maria are, in a way, the same person but split in two. When Doll is 'asleep' - Maria is awake, and vice versa, and neigher quite remembers what they seen in their dream/nightmare upon waking up. Like if rather than being the same person, the 'caring' side and 'disturbed' side got split - that fits the dichotomy of a dream and a nightmare. Needless to mention that Maria is a relative to Annalise, a vileblood whose consciousness remains alive despite the death of her physical body, and we know Maria has a fraction of this vileblood power from the second stage of her battle, so perhaps her consciousness remains permanent, even if in a sorry state it is.

(I dunno about a good way to bring this up, but yeah, in the second stage she taps at her blood powers despite not liking them, and even her 'art of quickening' mist becomes red rather than white, so I opt out to take it as her having a fraction of this power of being undead at least in consciousness + weird blood powers as the fact that her consciousness being able to transcend dimensions with whatever happened to her dead body, and split between the doll and Maria as caretaker of Nightmare version of the research hall is interesting on its own)

This field is up to interpretation though! Whether the Doll is a fraction of original alive Lady Maria, or her own person as AI representative, both can work for a great point! I personally opt out for 'a person whose consciousness was split' version for emotional appleal.

* So, what can we say about Gehrman in this field?

Well... Gehrman indeed was the first hunter, as his title suggests. I made a post about this already, but to condence it - whereas hunters of Ludwig's kind seemed to be "honorable spartans" following some sort of common chilvary with both morals and weapons (weapons such as Ludwig's Holy Blade and Ludwig's Riffle seriously ring the 'unification' bell for me, as well as people ridiculing Simon for his choice of bowblade), Gehrman seemed to not care? Old Hunters bunch are very various people - the "forbidden" beast eater, Maria from literal Cainhurst, Djura presumed the leader of the Powder Kegs, an executioner, Josef who used weapons of irreverent Izzy (actually, apostate rather that irreverent according to OG script) so there is no agreement to the Church... It seems like he opted out to not judge. Whatever your background or motivation is, if you can kill - that's what's matters. Very grim approach, however, 'use YOUR talent, not the talent society dictates you should have' is generally a good approach, he coulda made way better kind of a teacher if he was not teacher of the hunters.

He... apparently cared about Maria. That is undeniable.

The tear stone is something the Doll sheds when we giver her a hair ornament. The 'gentle consolation' thingy, in original, refered to as 'shizukana hagemashi ni nite'. Moreso translated as '(quitet) encouragement' or 'cheering up' rather than 'consolation', but the connotation stays... It creates the feeling of wish to be 'supported' and maybe being 'forgiven' from the Doll that completely replicates Maria, yet it did not happen.

They are the same actually, and that's scary! As for the items themselves...

As for how the Doll reacts to being given the hair ornament?

So... Basically, 'warmth' in her responce is refered to as '温かさを感じます' (Atatakasa o kanjimasu'), so, 'I feel the warmth'. Emphasis here is placed on 温かさ (aitakasa), warmth. Meanwhile, when we refer to the implied warmth Gehrman put into clothes for the Doll he was creating, we see the '温かい' (Atatakai), a bit more elaborate form associated moreso with hot tea or blanket or something like that you get it. There is no direct semantical connotation to the small hair ornament or so, just the fact that he cared for it very much - presumably because of the person who owned it. However, both clothes of the Doll in the waking/real world and the hair ornament "emit warmth" because of Gehrman caring for them deeply, so that's interesting.

* So, about that one creepy comment on the Doll...

We all know that Gehrman says that you can use 'even the doll, should it please you' in a dream, in that uncomfortable whispery tone, as if he does not want to be heard. I see it as sort of a cornerstone to why Gehrman is seen as a sexist/mysogynist character, and all else falls besides, but, here is a kicker!

Doll says '私をお使いください' ('Watashi o o tsukai kudasai', so, please use me) as a pointer, whereas Gehrman says '君さえよければ、あの人形もね⋯' ('kimi sae yokereba, ano ningyō mo neso', so, 'doll too if only you are okay with it', or '...if that is alright with you'), nothing weirdass or outright specific. Adaptation crowd picked 'should it please you' for Gehrman instead of 'even the Doll if that's okay with you' and 'and I will be here for you, to embolden your sickly spirit' instead of 'make a use of me' for the Doll, which seems to be more for a sake of beautiful old-timed wording rather than just... something. As for the weird ass whispery tone he says his phrase at, as if he doesn't want to be heard...

He says '君さえよければ、あの人形もね' in Japanese original, read as 'kimi sae yokereba, ano ningyō mo ne' in the original as mentioned before. You can actually hear this phrase from 1:33 to 1:37 in this video:

No even the weird tone change. So yeah, whereas western fans had a very easy time taking his commentary as that doll had the... well... 'interesting' functions implemented, seems like original intention was to just direct the player towards yet another gamaplay element.

So yeah as for the sexism, we are left with two more hints - him owning the book and the contrasting appearance of the Doll compared to Lady Maria herself:

The book is strange, as the fact that he needed to read it. Overall, advice on how to talk to women is the indicator for thinking that women are some 'otherly' creatures that have certain 'algorythm' they follow and that there is a 'way' to flirt with them and be liked by them, rather than people just like men but... women... Which is kinda sexist, tho it has a scale from this awe-fueled respectful adoration before women and general feeling of not being secure "how to talk with them" to the more (unfortunately) familiar to us form of codescending sexism that's nearing to perceive women as pretty-looking animals/aliens. Pick the place where Gehrman is on this scale by yourself!

Maria herself in the boss battle appears to be a woman that is very masculine but at the same time noble and fancy-looking (in anime a similar occurence has a name, too, it's 'bifauxnen'). However, at the same time, it is her hunting attire, and we have no way to know what she was wearing outside of the hunts. Maybe she was always dressed up as a very masculine person, hunt or not, maybe she was good at dressing as both very feminine and very masculine depending on the occasion. So explanation for appearance of the Doll might scale from 'depicting her more soft, feminine side, albeit it might be exagerrated' to 'Gehrman is a dumbass that doesn't process masculine-presenting women' - again, pick the place by yourself!

* What can we say about Lady Maria?

Well.. what we can say is already a common knowledge, yeah. She had a gentle caring side and patients wanted to hold her hand. However, what is interesting is the possible link between 'forget your foolish curiousity' ('liberate you from your wild curiousity' in adaptation) and 'without knowing the mania of his curiousity' ('unaware of his curious mania' in adaptation). Basically, it is possible that Maria not knowing something about Gehrman refers not to his (implied) crush, but rather to her not having known the real purpose of the Fishing Hamlet raid. Whether hunters are just killers, Gehrman did, however, known Willem, and... you know...

It is possible that Gehrman, by affiliation with Willem and Byrgenwerth by extension, was interested in some things he should not have known, unlike majority of the hunters; whereas Maria, implied to have helped with the raid, was a bit too naive to see further until too late. Her hands are not quite clean, as a killer of people who were transformed into marine monsters yet could still talk and think, but there are sure gaps to fill by one's own imagination on what happened! I would personally argue that that Gehrman was sorta dead for Maria after she realized the real purpose of the massacre that was somehow even more fucked up than expected - aligns with her resigning to care about research hall patients. For all we know, maybe he tried to gaslight her into not caring for them because they were no longer humans anyways... but... that doesn't work like this, Gehrman... (a speculation)

* So, why did the Doll cry because of the ornament?

Tumblr is a cringe hellsite that doesn't allow more than 10 images so I have to go text-only now, but I guess I already brought up all crucial things? However yeah, so far we can say that it is more like 'Gehrman wished for some sense of support/cheer-up from the Doll, but that did not happen', that might hint to him either fully realizing his guilt before Maria and desperately trying to cope. Maybe, he did not care about all the people (fishy, but still people) he killed, yet he cared about the fact that he mentally broke Maria. It is a sort of primitive sense of guilt, that usually stems from not being raised 'right' for some reason. Little children do not regret their actions because they are objectively bad and harmed someone - they regret them because their mother scolded them! But some adults carry it on - usually if more complicated concepts did not internalize in them earlier on. For all we know, maybe Gehrman just did not mature enough (in this way) to process complicated moral things, yet he could understand a basic thing such as Maria hating him and what she did and what he did. Okay, I am sidetracking...

So, from the bits I brought before, Doll was not feeling this 'gentle consolation' (honestly, sense of cheering someone up is more accurate) towards Gehrman, yet her tear is evidence of her actually feeling it, feeling what Gehrman needed, eventually, when the hunter brings her hair ornament - because it emits the 'warmth' associated with him caring deeply. Here are some possible interpretations of the fact:

1) As a doll, she is moved by the fact of caring itself and without realizing complications or source of it, she wants to comfort, instinctively.

2) As a fraction of sorts from consciousness of Maria, despite probably hating Gehrman, she cannot truly commit to it feeling this caring and love. She does not understand complications, or even remember the context, but as a person who was 'tender-hearted' enough she cannot truly turn her back on someone she used to admire and someone who's in pain, whoever this person is, deep down she just can't and feeling how pained/caring he was moves her.

3) She reflects his caring, not hers, since she might be as well a stand in for artifical intelligence and is still learning of more complicated, unconditional things.

...yyyyyeah you can say from the amount of the words alone which version I care for more fsdhhfds God did I try to conceal it, but what can I say - I like complicated things. In my eyes, Maria definitely could kick some ass - but she also had a kind, compassionate heart, that did not resonate with the hunters' purpose all that well. She was a knight - but more a kind of that protects the innocent and fights the 'bad guys' (not unlike chivalry we fairly associate with Ludwig), and she cared for the patients... maybe because she "contributed" to the reason they are there to begin with. Or maybe she did not think this intricate and just wanted to help, but I personally think she was able to see deeper context of the situation.

Another interesting thing - Doll bleeds 'grey blood', something you see from Kin, Ebrietas and Rom's head when you fight her in the lake. Hmmmmm I cannot leave any more images, but I will leave this link:

https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2020/07/datamined-internal-names.html?m=1

It is datamined internal names of various characters and enemies, and you can see strange things such as Ebrietas being 'illegimate child of the Moon' and celestial emissaries being 'emissarys of the Moon', so perhaps this silverwater as I personally call it, has something to do with the Moon/stars/cosmos/whatever. Doll bleeding this is palatable - she is tied to the hunter's dream that was created thanks to Moon Presence, after all. One of the attacks of Ebrietas is crying red bloody tears as opposed to her overall grey blood, and it is strongly implied that the reason she cries is tied to the spider on the altar (most likely mortal body of Rom). Well... Ebrietas is just a celestial child not unlike Arianna's (celestial adult, actually) so she could cry blood. Doll, perhaps, could not produce 'real' blood by any means as she is not physical, so instead her form of genuine emotion is making up a gemstone. Either way, there might be emotions that are stronger than what the 'stars' or 'Moon' whatever they are, want...

* So, did this post matter at all?

Maybe... not as much...?

I am never here to show off as in like 'look, my version is better' but rather to highlight that the most walked path is never the only path! Whereas his creepy comment on the Doll is not as solid of an evidence as we might think because of adaptation, Gehrman might still be creepy. For example, precise copying of Maria's proportions and face paired with overdetalization of Doll's clothes might speak not only of an extremely talented craftsman, but also of a person whose observancy was terrifying. Maybe he even had abnormally good memory in the past - which would make it all the more sad that he does not remember as much after all he's been though.

All in all, sexist creepy old man is something we (unfortunately) are more familiar with and can resonate with better, as opposed to just some socially awkward weird grandpa who 'does not know how to talk to women'. There is also a common sense that if your version is better than the canon - it just is, doesn't matter who has legal ownership of the idea or who invented it first. There is also a fact that Bloodborne intentionally leaves things open-ended so you have to use your own imagination to fill the gaps. I guess I am sorta biased to more 'convoluted' version of Gehrman because..... well my grandpa is EXACTLY the creepy sexist boomer old man, I am NOT taking a reflection of him in the universe that's supposed to comfort me (yes, universe with murdercults, mutants, deaths, blood and infanticide is perfect for comfort somehow don't ping me).

So yeah, I personally take the whole thing as Doll and Maria being sorta the same person but split in two - her motherly/caring side and her knightly side, them not having direct connection to each other besides faint 'intuition' and 'feelings', Maria being very wounded because of Gehrman yet still too compassionate deep inside to not be moved by his pain and 'warmth', and Doll's appearance as a testament to the side of Maria which Gehrman neglected and even had lessened because of his ruthless killer antics - and he only realized the tender soul inside Maria all too late all too little.

So all in all their backstory is sad yet open ended in my eyes if that makes sense? Maybe they dated for some time? Maybe they never did and actually Maria did not appreciate his advances? Maybe Gehrman never allowed his feelings to be known to begin with? Maybe we as fandomry people in general need to pay more attention at deep, complicated, emotional connections between characters that are not strictly negative but are not strictly good either besides romantic context more?

Yeah I kinda see it as 'Maria woulda broken his nose, but also would instantly call a doctor to patch it up so it doesn't get too bad', Soulsborne proven to be very good at making characters feel complicated like real people with little to no dialogue. She can kick some ass but she also cannot truly hate someone in pain and wish damnation on them, she has a tender heart despite everything. Meanwhile Gehrman is indeed a very talented craftsman yet a ruthless killer that doesn't care for your background or motivation as long as you can be efficent at murder and perhaps Maria's suicide was the one thing that moved him all too late - he also fights the hunter back so they won't have to suffer taking his place in the Dream so despite his suffering he has SOME mercy within (only to humans, clearly...) . But yeah I personally think they have a very deep teacher-student bond, rather a companionship than some sort of love. Perhaps if they were to talk again - the only thing that would grant Gehrman such opportunity is the fact that Maria is not quite innocent so she is 'not the one to talk' in her eyes. Not the one to blame someone for HER decision to near-blindly following them, but god, clearly she is not the only person in the room to deserve to suffer.

Dunno how to end this post but yeah. The fact that creepy comment on the Doll is redundant still kills me! Thanks to Kirby localizing team for HORRIBLY missing Star Allies lore - they internalized my distrust to localizations. (english Bloodborne has the best VAs tho...)

[katyspersonal]

How would you classify Micolash’s death? Murder at the hands of a hunter? Accident? Natural death?Suicide (since he willingly signed up for the ritual)?

Hah! Like I keep saying, death is a strong word in Bloodborne (or any of From's settings) xd In this case Micolash's "death" also comes in two stages!

Yeah, first, he dies in Yahar'gul's ritual room, together with other prisoners (they all have no clothes but only rugs, they have shackles and their Mensis cages are two times shorter). The thing is... it is possible that he didn't know it'd kill his physical body! He might have just hoped to ascend:

In original script ( x ), it seems not only he doesn't know that he is dead and won't "wake up", but he even wonders whether he really will lose the Nightmare forever. There is a doubt that what if it WAS like a dream! (Fun fact while we're here: in Japanese script, Micolash never uses 'I' even once, only 'we'! It doesn't translate well, but Japanese language has ways to refer to oneself without using the word for 'I' or 'we', which is the case in this Japanese text!)

So yeah, I'd say his first death is the closest to accidental suicide! Bro just wanted to 'sleep'! His "real" body is totally a corpse now, and even the text to interact with it says 'Inspect mummy'. But not really, because he is still "alive" in the Nightmare.

And second death is as much of a murder by the hands of the Paleblood Hunter as killing Maria, Laurence, Ludwig, OoK, Mergo or Gehrman was. It is referred to as killing specifically by Simon, when he tells us to kill Lady Maria 🤔 But what it really is, is releasing their spirits from the Nightmare Realm. Doll says she feels easier after Maria died, Fishing Hamlet priest says OoK is back in the ocean and implication is that the heart of the Nightmare itself is gone, Mergo's death is seen as a good thing by his mother... So yeah, I could not really call it a murder because people we kill in the Nightmare/Dream realm are already dead! It is mercy-killing, delivering a REAL death this time. We simply released Micolash's spirit!

For Micolash specifically, however, it could be not EVEN that. When we kill Patches, he actually respawns, but simply stays hidden on that cliff and doesn't interact with the Hunter anymore. Rom's death also might be not permanent and be a 'release', since she has a body in the Dungeons (in which her head bleeds red and not 'paleblood' like it was in the Lake). Connection with Amygdalae/Spiders might do something with one's spirit that keeps them between death and life permanently! So, for all we know, Micolash is still """alive""" in spirit, in mirrors or dreams or as a summon in demonic rituals, just disconnected from the control over his own Nightmare xd

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So yeah, again, From's characters are rarely allowed to die for real xd First Micolash kills only his body, which is only a 'partial' suicide (like Ranni's but his was not intended), and then Hunter kills his spirit (which is also debatable, but IF Micolash dies, it is his true death this time)!

Honorable mentions: implication that Maria's spirit is in the Doll, albeit without memories, and implication from Simon that he was killed by Brador several times. That'd put the two in a similar position with Micolash 🤔 Brador himself, because although it is implied that killing his real, old form is true murder, we can't be sure what splitting into phantoms did with his soul.

[astrognossienne]

What celebrities can you think of that have managed to develop their sun or reach its highest potential if that makes sense? Like how you said Betty White is one of the few developed Capricorns, do you think there are others who have done the same with their sign?

aries: lady gaga, kristen stewart, reese witherspoon, jennifer garner, selena, jessica chastain, bette davis, marvin gaye, gregory peck

taurus: malcolm x, audrey hepburn, george clooney, leonardo da vinci, elizabeth II, penelope cruz, cher, william shakespeare, daniel day-lewis, stevie wonder, orson welles, tchaikovsky, socrates, jimmy stewart, laurence olivier

gemini: lauryn hill, lenny kravitz, jfk, marilyn monroe, stevie nicks, johnny depp, prince, paul mccartney, naomi campbell, judy garland, jean-paul sartre, marquis de sade, michael j. fox, anne frank, miles davis, josephine baker

cancer: robin williams, princess diana, meryl streep, diahann carroll, prince william, elon musk, solange, dalai lama, nikola tesla, tom hanks, nelson mandela, angela merkel, mike tyson, alexander the great, frida kahlo, liv tyler, ernest hemingway, anthony bourdain, julius caesar, natalie wood, franz kafka, ringo starr, richard branson, malala yousafzai, debie harry, elizabeth warren, chris cornell, missy elliott, marcel proust, antoine de saint-exupery, cat stevens, helen keller, kawhi leonard, lena horne, michael phelps

leo: jackie kennedy, jennifer lopez, arnold schwarzenegger, robert de niro, coco chanel, kate bush, helen mirren

virgo: michael jackson, keanu reeves, mother theresa, karl lagerfeld, elizabeth I, jeremy irons, ray charles, mary shelley

libra: desmond tutu, rita hayworth, cardi b, brigitte bardot, gwen stefani, catherine deneuve, kim kardashian, oscar wilde, bruce springsteen, christopher reeve

scorpio: lisa bonet, grace kelly, vivien leigh,alain delon, pablo picasso, winona ryder, marie curie, hedy lamarr, rupaul, chloe sevigny, robert f. kennedy, carl sagan, sylvia plath, joni mitchell, anna wintour, albert camus

sagittarius: jimi hendrix, zoe kravitz, brad pitt, bruce lee, tina turner, frank sinatra, ludwig van beethoven, edith piaf, maria callas, jane birkin, adam clayton powell jr, marina abramovic, jane austen, gianni versace

capricorn: david bowie, aaliyah, betty white, dolly parton, mlk, ralph fiennes, michelle obama, francoise hardy, kate moss, sade, marlene dietrich, joan of arc, benjamin franklin

aquarius: abraham lincoln, jennifer aniston, shakira, mozart, oprah, megan thee stallion, paul newman, fdr, thomas edison, virginia woolf, kelly rowland, brandy, michael hutchence, peter gabriel, eddie van halen

pisces: sidney poitier, anais nin, albert einstein, kurt cobain, liz taylor, drew barrymore, juliette binoche, edgar cayce, jon bon jovi, johnny cash, chopin, michelangelo, nina simone, fred rogers, ruth bader ginsburg

[aliesther-eistein]

1. Laurence x Ludwig x Micolash and their departure from Byrgenwerth. Fear The Old Blood!

2. Laurence and Ludwig watching Yharnam dying. “This is the end, Ludwig. I am sorry”. That’s all Laurence can tell his holy hunter.

3. Lady Maria as the Cainhurst Knight. Tired and lonely.

4. Micolash, half-naked (well, completely naked under his robe): “What’s wrong, Laurence?”. You are free to headcanon the situation as you please, guys…

(It’s still Laurence x Ludwig x Micolash)

5. Ludwig, not the Holy Blade yet: “Tombs are not a safe place, Laurence… Micolash, are you ready?”

His attitude kinda differs, you see?

(Yes, Laurence x Ludwig x Micolash again)

[cheebuss]

Do you ship Maria x Ludwig? You draw them a lot together /gen

Hey! No I don't, I just see them as close friends (plus I see Maria as lesbian but thats just my hc), but idm if ppl ship them! 💪 Horse girls and Sword ladies stay winning!

[idv-ask-azrael]

IDV x Bloodborne ideas

Youtube decided like a month ago that I need bloodborne in my life again, a friend of mine agreed and Mitzu was happy to have found another eldtrich slug fan.

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Bloodborne is an old horror game so I don’t suggest looking up these characters if you are sensitive to blood, violence, body horror, gore & other horror elements.

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S-Tier Costumes

Coordinator: Lady Maria

Perfumer: Queen Yharnam (adjust design to work with skirt physics)

Minds Eye: Barador (genderbent, ringing the bell instead of using her cane)

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Naiad: Kos (or some say Kosm…)

Undead: Ludwig (with first signs of beasthood)/Father Gascoigne

Sculptor: Adeline

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A-Tier Costumes

Doctor/Psychologist*: Josefka

*you would need a matching costume for Patient

Toy Maker: Doll

Lucky Guy: Hunter

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Bane: Cleric Beast/Lawrence

Dream Witch: Queen Annalise with servants

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B-Tier Costumes

Grave Keeper: Choir member (he has the Choir Boy skin already)

Bloody Queen: Silver Lady

Magician: Yharnamite

Seer: White Church Hunter

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Accessories

Beast’s Embrace, S (Prospector): Transforms you into “The Ghastly Beast”

Milkweed Rune, S (Gardener): Transforms you into a Lumenwood Kin

Lantern, S (Survivors): Spawns Messengers around your chair and makes your cipher antenna look like a lantern

Red Ribbon, A (Lucky): yes I want you to cry, plays music when Lucky opens a chest

Balcony Key (Survivors): The key Lady Maria gave to Adeline

Hunters Badge (Hunters): Ludwig’s Hunter Badge