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natyshaw · 2 years
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Berseria Week - day 5 [Broken ties]
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toc-battlequotes · 7 months
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[Master of Secret Arts]
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fontasticcrablettes · 4 months
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Next up! Alliterative parents Melchior Mayvin and Gall Gruner.
I have been told Gall is actually a cool guy so I'm curious to see if any dissenters actually think he's worse than Melchior!
Melchior is Magilou's adoptive father. He took her in purely to train her as a magical prodigy, emotionally manipulated her, and then abandoned her when she wasn't committed enough.
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mistbow · 1 year
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Sorey, the Vigil-Keeper
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I know there’s a popular theory that Sorey might be reborn as a seraph at the ending, but to this, I would like to propose an alternative that is not less convincing, with hints spread throughout both Zestiria and Berseria.
スレイ「……オレ、メーヴィンに教えて貰ったこと絶対忘れない。ずっと伝えていく!」 メーヴィン「……ふ。俺が看取られるなんて……考えた事も……なかった」
In this dialogue from the screenshots above, I want you to pay attention to the word “看取る” and its variations, as it is a word that keeps coming up in the story.
If you look up in dictionaries, you would find that the Japanese word “看取る” means “to attend someone’s deathbed; to care for someone who is close to death until their death.” It is, admittedly, a word that is hard to translate to English.
Here’s how the official English translation goes about, emphasis mine, to bring attention to how it’s localized:
SOREY:  I promise... I'll never forget what you've told me, Mayvin. And I'll teach it to others as well! MAYVIN:  Heh. Never did I imagine I would die with others... By my... Side...
But I think the word has significance in Zestiria lore, with Mayvin, being one himself, didn’t expect to have someone to watch over him as he died.
And how do I know that? It’s in the name, as explained in the sidequest revolving the poet Mayvin.
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Here’s a bit of the dialogue as a refresher, with omissions here and there:
アカシャ「語り部は個の名を持たない一族。『メーヴィン』とは一族が代々受け継ぐ名なのです」 ミクリオ「つまり、詩人は何代前のメーヴィンか!」 ザビーダ「メーヴィン……『看取る者』って意味だっけか?」 アカシャ「彼らは、その名と共に契約を受け継ぎ、世界を傍観する宿命を負うのです」 ミクリオ「しかし、なぜそんな宿命を?」 ザビーダ「初代がなんかやらかしちまって、強制的に誓約が与えられた……とかなんとかだっけ?」 スレイ「応えなきゃな。メーヴィンが託してくれた想いに」
Here is how it goes in the official English localization (emphasis, again, mine):
AKSHA: Those in the clan of Storytellers have no names of their own. The name “Mayvin” is passed down through the generations. MIKLEO: So the poet Mayvin was his ancestor from centuries ago! ZAVEID: Doesn’t “Mayvin” mean “Caregiver” in the old tongue? AKSHA: Those born into that name and that oath must accept their fate to be observers of the world. MIKLEO: But I wonder... why is that their fate? ZAVEID: Wasn’t it, like, the first one did some damn fool thing and wound up forced to take the oath as punishment or something? SOREY: We need to work hard to live up to the hopes that Mayvin placed in us.
But if I were to translate it myself more closely to the original Japanese, it would be more like this:
AKSHA: Those in the clan of Storytellers have no names of their own. The name “Mayvin” is passed down through the generations. MIKLEO: So the poet Mayvin was from several generations ago! ZAVEID: Doesn’t “Mayvin” mean “Vigil-Keeper” in the old tongue? AKSHA: Those inheriting that name and that oath must accept their fate to be observers of the world. MIKLEO: But I wonder... why is that their fate? ZAVEID: Wasn’t it, like, the first one did some damn fool thing and wound up forced to take the oath as punishment or something? SOREY: We need to work hard to live up to the hopes that Mayvin placed in us.
What am I implying here? I think that the Storytellers of Time, as a clan, don’t have to be related by blood. The wording used here to me implies that the name is inherited, passed down. (Fits nicely with Zestiria’s theme that “Legend will someday become hope.” Legends or “伝承” are things that get passed down. That get inherited. That outlives its keepers, because it is the hope or will that will not die as long as there’s someone out there to accept it.)
It’s a name that means 看取る者, the one who attends someone on their deathbed. As for why I translated this as “Vigil-Keeper”, I will bring it up later.
(As a sidenote: Sorey gets his alternative costume from this sidequest. Makes you think.)
But first. Let’s talk about Mayvin more. After all, there’s also “Mayvin” in Berseria.
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マギルゥ「メルキオル・メーヴィン、火山で待っておれ」 マギルゥ「案ずるな。お主の最期は儂が”看取る”」
MAGILOU: Melchior Mayvin, I’ll see you at the volcano. MAGILOU: Don’t you worry. I’ll be sure to be there as you breathe your last.
Hard, isn’t it, to get this point across in English? But they actually put the word in the quotes as ”看取る” as if trying to get your focus on that word. Part of why I think the name “Mayvin” (along with the oath that comes with it) gets inherited as you watch someone die before your eyes, and take on their name.
Now back to Zestiria. Sorey actually has a title series that corresponds to the turning points of his character development, namely:
Lad of Separation (別離の若者) (Bronze): Obtained when he left Elysia, as he learned the lesson of farewells.
Reunited Traveler (旅は道連れ) (Silver): Obtained when Rose joined the party, as he learned to be with a human companion that can understand him as a fellow human.
Vigil-Keeper (看取りし人) (Gold): Obtained as he watched Mayvin die in his arms. I will explain more on this below.
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看取りし人 消えゆく命を見届け、その想いを胸に刻んだ者に託された称号。
Vigil-Keeper A title entrusted to one who sees off passing lives, and engraves the wishes of the fallen upon his heart.
(By the way, it’s also part of a series of titles belonging to the seraphim too.)
Yes, it’s the same word/characters you see in all of the previous ones shown above. He actually obtained a title that is basically the ancient tongue meaning for “Mayvin.”
刻遺の語り部 「メーヴィン」という名を代々受け継ぐ人間の一族がいる。彼らは「刻遺の語り部」と呼ばれる存在で、「人間・天族・導師・憑魔などの歴史に干渉しない」という誓約により、非常な長命を得ている。「刻(とき)に遺される」という名からわかるように、人間では考えられないような時間を生きながら、人や天族が織りなす歴史を語り、後世に残すことを使命としている。これは初代メーヴィンに対して課せられた、一種の義務や罰ではないか、という説が伝わっている。歴史に干渉しないためその存在を知る者は少なく、天族のあいだでも語ることは禁忌とされているようだ。
Storytellers of Time There is a human clan which inherits the name “Mayvin” from generation to generation. They are known as the “Storytellers of Time” and have a very long life due to their oath not to interfere with the history of humans, seraphim, Shepherds, and hellions. As implied from the name “abandoned in time,” they have the duty to tell the history as woven by humans and seraphim while living for a long time unimaginable for humans, preserving for the future generations, left behind by the world and time. It has been theorized that this may have been some kind of obligation or punishment imposed on the first Mayvin. Since they do not interfere with history, few humans know of their existence, and it has become something of a taboo to talk about, even among the seraphim.
As a note, the “Time” part of the title is “刻遺” and I believe I had already talked about the word “time” being written as “刻” before. It also implies “abandoned in time” (“刻に遺される”).
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ミクリオ「マオテラスと繋がり、刻にとり残され、何年……いや、何百年待つのか……」
MIKLEO: By bonding with Maotelus, you’ll be abandoned in time. It could take years… It could take centuries.
Interesting wording, is it not?
By the way, another interesting but easy-to-miss detail:
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If you squint closely, both Magilou and Zestiria!Mayvin have bird motifs (on her notebook for Magilou, where presumably she wrote the stories to tell to the next generations, and on both his pipe and book for Z!Mayvin). You know who else has bird motifs?
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空に飛び立って 幼い頃からいつも身に着けている羽の耳飾り。穢れを知らない鳥は故郷を飛び立ち広い世界を目指す。
Flying into the sky A feather earring that he has always worn since he was a child. The bird, knowing nothing of malevolence, takes a flight off from its homeland to the vast world.
(I mean, a lot of Zestiria and Berseria characters have bird motifs, but hey. And I will someday talk about this too, but we’ll save this for the future.)
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スレイ「『人が育てたら、飛べない鳥になってしまう。巣に戻せ』って……」 スレイ「あいつ……無事に巣立てたんだな」
SOREY: “A kept bird will never learn to fly,” he said. “Put it back.” SOREY: Guess you made it out of the nest on your own, huh?
And I love it. I love this because at its core, Zestiria is about humans and seraphim, and Sorey and Mikleo are intended by the creators to symbolize that. Being a storyteller and explorer fits him as his defining character trait is that he is passionate about history, passionate about finding ways on how to unite humans and seraphim. Sure, he was still the Shepherd up until before he brought out that second strike to Heldalf, and ended his suffering of Eternal Solitude, but right after that? Right after all this is done? I’m inclined to believe he might take the oath, take the name “Mayvin” after the one human he learned from the most. 
But I don’t think he is going to see it as a burden, an obligation, a punishment... after all, the essence of adventure lies in exploration, in the words of Mayvin, the Explorer. 
And, in the words of Mayvin, the Storyteller, you can’t fathom the true meaning of legends until you’ve seen their history with your own eyes...
(He might not be able to interfere with the world history after this, sure, but in a way, that also frees him from the shackles that used to bind him as the Shepherd. He had done what he needed to. Now is the time to entrust it to the next generations.)
ところで『探検家』であるために一番大切なことはなんだと思う? 好奇心や勇気も重要だが、一番じゃないな 答えは『探検から無事に帰ること』だ
By the way, what would you say is the most important quality of an explorer? Curiosity and courage are definitely key, but they are not the most vital. The answer is the wherewithal to come back from your exploration safely.
And he did come home safely. At the end.
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tob-velvet-crowe · 2 years
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These are scans of: Oscar Dragonia, Teresa Linares, Shigure Rangetsu ,Melchior Mayvin, and a page which shows the default exorcists with Japanese text I cannot read as shown in the Tales of Berseria Official World Guidance Book. I couldn’t scan the complete images because the edges of the scanner were to thick and the whole book didn’t fit on it because the scanner is to small. There is Moire effect on them as well. I reduced the Moire effect a lot by denoising the images but there are still artifacts left if you zoom in enough. This is one of the requested scans.
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tales-of-asteria · 5 years
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As-yon! The Tales of Asteria 4koma #096: Fan Club
Artist: Kirai Yuu
Translation & Editing: Neyla ~ Kiiroi Senkou Quality check & Proofreading: DimensionSlip
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Conversation
Melchior: Enough! How dare you mock me in such a manner!
Magilou: Well, how would you like me to mock you, then? I take requests.
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Melchior’s 4☆ image from the Co-op Roulette.
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Conversation
Melchior: sometimes, I feel like I have failed as your father
Magilou: sometimes?
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lucifer-cp-jk · 5 years
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thedivergingpaths · 5 years
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Tales of Berseria, The Sacrifice That Wasn’t
Basically the anime prologue starts to go the same
But it’s not Celica who dies
Instead Artorious/Arthur manages to save her
But then gets knocked into the pit
And he becomes very dead
I know Melchior is watching
And I want him to die
But I don’t think he’d flub up and get in there by Celica
Then again, he might
She’s frightened, traumatized
He’s shocked, his plan needs to be redone
Wham!
Down he goes into the danger hole
Two dead dudes who can’t destroy the world now ~
Daemons are still a problem though
But! Celica has her son and raises her siblings
Velvet and her friend Niko leave the village when they’re about fourteen or fifteen because they’re going to cure Laphicet
They find the book with some help
Both grow attached to the adventuring life
So after having Laphicet deciphers the book - and perhaps Celica makes the recipe more often because money is used for things that are needed - both girls go off
Laphicet is lowkey not okay with it
But he’s not going to tell Velvet that
But what a bitter adolescent
And Celica’s son is named Arthur because ~ angst ~
Eventually things happen, people meet up, and we still have to deal with the daemons
And I’m thinking it won’t be totally resolved until the Zestiria era but I haven’t written any of this yet so I dunno
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cinnamonzor · 2 years
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Magilou, pre-canon: So today as a prank I made a sheet music printout of Miley Cyrus's "Wrecking Ball" and replaced the name with "Christmas Time Meditation" and deleted the words and I'm gonna put it in with the church music and see if the pianist notices.
[later...]
Magilou: He noticed and now I can add "yelled at by two praetors at once" to my list of accomplishments.
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fontasticcrablettes · 4 months
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It's our last shitty mom, Mylene, up against Melchior. Who fucked up their kid more?
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asteriuszenith · 7 years
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Arthur did everything wrong but Melchior was the root of it all for taking advantage of him at his lowest points to manipulate the poor man into doing what he wants him to do.
#BlameMelchior #Don’tLetTheOldCootRunFreeJustBecauseHeLovesFlowers
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acenya · 7 years
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And apparently, Seres and Melchior are siblings now ;)
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tob-magilou · 7 years
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Speculation: The Legates
So, in a room in the Loegres Villa, you can check various bookcases. One of them states the following information:
“Exorcist Ranks” (from the Abbey’s records)
There are currently around 3,000 orderlies and 100 praetors in active duty.
The following three have achieved the rank of legate:
Legate III: Artorius Collbrande
Legate II: Melchior Mayvin
Legate V: Shigure Rangetsu
We can assume that Legate I was Claudin, but given certain information, I think it is also highly plausible that Magilou was Legate IV. It was mentioned that she was a former legate with a decade old reputation, and it was written that the three listed above are the only current legates. Thus, I think that Magilou was most likely Legate IV.
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