#SO SICK OF THE ESFJ TYPING

[thepeachjane]

Avatar the Last Airbender: Katara MBTI- Why she isn't an ESFJ

I'm going to post this on main because I'm genuinely SO SICK of people mischaracterizing Katara. So sorry to my followers, but my mbti nerd is going to come out.

I truly think that people mistype Katara as an ESFJ because of their focus on stereotypes and thinking that because she is the "mother" of the group, that she is Fe focused and Si secondary. However, I believe that if you really look at her character actions and beliefs, she is an INFP, with a developed Si because of her traumatic past, and enneagram type which I think is 1w2.

For starters, her focus always remains on her personal values, yes she cares about the group, and she would like if people went along with an agreed with her (who wouldn't?), BUT THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS, she is willing to do near anything to follow those values, even if it goes against the group dynamic and wishes, which is not something that comes as naturally to an Fe person. A prime example of this is the Painted Lady episode, but you can see seeds of that natural instinct in her from early episodes.

There's just an inner stubbornness to Katara that isn't really obvious in ESFJs, but is present in Fi types. She doesn't like conflict, but is willing to rock the boat, go against the tribe's wants, happy to in some cases, if she feels as though her values are not being respected.

We even see how she sometimes struggles to communicate her inner most feelings and desires to people (inferior Te), and goes solo or seeks support from someone she knows will support her, hence her strong relationship with Aang (who I believe is an ENFP and explains their relationship dynamic imo), and feeling of betrayal she feels when he occasionally does not. Exmaple being the Southern Raiders episode. And why Zuko in the same episode totally gets her, as an ISFP himself with the same savior and demon function of Fi Te.

Her weak Te also explains her rather childish but honestly completely relatable reactions to her brother who is clearly Te primary. She is a big picture idealist and he is an objective outcomes guy. She rejects reality to pursue her values, and dislikes her brother's sometimes cold impartial attitude.

And I think people conflate her talking about her mother's death, with her being vulnerable about it. But she often doesn't talk about her feelings or how it affected her, and definitely is NOT looking for people's input on how she should feel or think about it.

We know as the audience and it's clear based on her tone and body language, but she doesn't express her own feelings on it except for the rare occasions she is almost forced to, or feels like it will help her connect with someone. She just tells people what happened to her!! Classic Fi. People forget that Fi users are very emotionally private, and while they can be OUTWARDLY expressive (and that can be mistaken for emotional vulnerability), their most private and important feelings are their own, they want to protect them.

And I feel like the Ne and Si are pretty clear, like Katara is open to new experiences, sees potential in things, and gathers ideas to shape her values, but can be surprisingly rigid. Especially when she encounters things from her past which have hurt her (prime example being Zuko). Which can put her in the classic Fi Si grip.

TLDR; She's a big picture idealist who gets bogged down by the logistics of things, often not caring about the objective outcome more than doing what she thinks is right (which makes her butt heads with her brother). And while she cares about the group, her priority is not group harmony, her priority is her own values and whether or not those around her respect and understand that. And if they don't she pushes back. She is the character most true to herself and her values, even more than Aang sometimes. And that's why I think she is so strongly an INFP. I really REALLY don't see the ESFJ and it's weird that people type her as that so much...

If you STILL don't see it, please re-watch with a better understanding of the cognitive functions because just because she cares about the group, does NOT mean she puts the group first.

[3kiripima3]

Hi!! I’d love to request a matchup for Hazbin Hotel! (could I please not be matched with Valentino or Nifty?) <33

my pronouns are she/her and I’m asexual biromantic (I’d prefer a male character but if you think one of the girls fits me best any gender is fine). I’m an ESFJ and a Gemini. I have green eyes and dyed cherry red hair. I dress with vintage/“fairy grunge” clothes. Long skirts and corsets are my fav type of outfit. I wear lots of rings and crystal/pearl necklaces and love to exchange them with others. I also have tattoos, currently I have three but I’m planning to get more. I love to wear makeup and come up with something creative and different everyday. Also if someone lets me do their makeup they’ll have my heart forever.

I’m the mom friend of the group, always there for everyone and my friends say that I’m really good at comforting people. I’m also calm and responsible, I usually am the one that takes care of other people. I’m very optimistic, I always try to see the good in everything and I often put other’s needs before my own. I love making others laugh to lighten the situation. I’m not afraid to stand up for myself or for someone else but sometimes it’s hard for me to say no to things. I also dislike when someone is too serious and really can’t take a joke as I tend to use humor as my coping mechanism. I’m also very ambitious, I always try to achieve my goals.

My love languages are, receiving, physical touch and words of affirmation and giving, quality time and words of affirmation.

I absolutely love listening to music, it helps me relax and I really like reading (I love reading out loud to others, when I read dialogues I act them out a little to help picture the scene). I especially love fantasy and I recently got into greek mythology. I also love watching horror movies even though it’s impossible to scare me. I also play Dungeons and Dragons with my friends anytime I can. also, I absolutely love musicals and I’m definitely a theatre kid.

Have a great day!! :)

Hi! Thanks for the request! After some consideration, I think I'd pair you with…

Velvette!

I personally feel like she'd be perfect for you!

Velvette would assuredly love your sense of fashion. I can see her personally making you numerous clothing items that fit your style and vibe. I feel like she would let you do her makeup a lot, however she'd probably not allow you to do whatever you want and give you a specific sort of look to do.

She'd thrive off of having you there to be comforting and more responsible. As she 100% gets sick and tired of having to deal with Vox and Val all the time, so she'd appreciate having someone there to care for her as well. Although, she will not often admit it to you.

Velvette respects you being ambitious and loves that about you as she's also rather ambitious and goal driven.

She may not be the type to often verbalise her positive thoughts about things, but she'd try with those she loves. However, she'd be clingy as fuck with you.

Velvette doesn't read books much, but if you read to her, she'd enjoy it. However, I see her having a tendency to get attached to characters and partially blaming you if they die in a book you're reading to her.

Thanks for requesting! I hope this is good enough for you :)

[oddvanilla]

Take an MBTI test and go look up what characters share MBTI mindsets with you. That takes up like, an hour or so if you're like me, since I'm silly and enjoy seeing who I'm similar to... Like, I share MBTI with Kakashi and I love him sm 💞 (INTP-T)

GOOD FOR YOU I ACTUALLY KNOW ALOT ABOUT MBTI!!! I'm an ENFJ-A,, people's people pretty much but I seem like an ENFP until you give me some work or anything to plan🤑

HERE'S UHHH HOW MUCH I LIKE EVERY TYPE from my perspective

ENTJ: marry me pls I love you I love you I love you

ESTJ: well once you learn how to command people more nicely I'll actually listen to you...

ESTP: your honesty is HILARIOUS,, I love you. You're definitely someone I love having around in groups

ESFP: You guys are SO FUN!! but you really need to learn how to get serious when we have work to finish...I love you🫶

ENFP: I feel comfortable everytime I'm with you guys. Maybe it's how weird you are with no shame is what makes me feel relaxed. Also it's impossible to hate y'all you guys are FUNNY 😭😭 I love you

ENTP: you guys are the biggest trolls ever. And the worst part is that it always works. I'll always get mad at you guys you make me sick....🤷‍♀️

ENFJ: WOAH. My own type....I like myself but surprisingly every other ENFJ I meet is insanely nice and I'm not so much😭 you guys seem fake at first with how nice you are but it takes a while to change my mind!!!!!

ESFJ: no idea what happens in your world...I just know you guys are like so used to following people's expectations that you never have time to do what YOU want :(( just put the fries in the bag🤦‍♀️

ISFJ: adorable you guys are ADORABLE!!! not my bsf tho she's an ISFJ and she's naturally aggressive...the only reason she's ISFJ tho is because she doesn't think much..

ISTJ: HOLY CRAP marry me you guys are so smart it's impressive. I could listen to you explain the most complex concepts all goddamn day.

ISTP: although you're my opposite type you guys are actually not that bad...I mean hey every ISTP I met matches the freak and not an emo heartless jerk

INTP: I love them but like you guys have SO much wasted potential it's crazy 😭 trust me if you just got out of bed and released these creative ideas into reality you would be at such a high point in life. Average friend

INFP: well well well...you guys surely are a lot. You're weird. I would like to study you under a microscope. HOWEVER some of you guys are actually so sensitive it hurts to watch😭😭 the ones who aren't sensitive tho are easy to get along with🙏🙏

ISFP: my problem with you guys is that you can't be trusted easily....I have several trust issues with you guys it's crazy😭😭 I don't hate you I think some of you guys are just...In need to be fixed

INFJ: AAAAAA TWIN TWIN TWIN!!! i love you 🫶🫶🫶 I have never met an INFJ that i hated. You guys are the personification of "how can U hate me I did LITERALLY nothing" LMAOO

[hannahlovesluca]

OMGGG are you still doing matchups?! if so can I be in one!!

im fem with she/her pronouns

i don’t have a preference. man? woman? non-binary? trans? IDC ‼️‼️

im in my bald head era rn 😞✊🏿✊🏿 (jk jk i have a pixie cut going on rn bc i got a little too wild and my hair ended up getting fried, dyed, and laid to the side…), im like 5’5 or something i honest forgot, im soulaan (aka african american 🤩) mixed with somalian. also i been hitting the gym AND been doing the le sserafim workout so my body tea ‼️

esfj. according to my friends im very open minded and a cool person to be around. very hype but all it take is some good food for all that energy to be knocked down immediately 💀

likes - food, cats

dislikes - boring ppl, mean ppl, ppl ppl, loud noises, the smell of boiled eggs. being annoyed, RAINNNNN, cold weather

love languages 💋💋 (had to take a test bc i never even thought abt this 😓😓) — acts of services (27%) — physical touch (23%) — words of affirmation (20%) — receiving gifts (20%) — quality time (10%)

i pair you with….

Sonny Brisko!

hear me out…

• i love this man so much i wish i was you

• you guys have such similar personalities but also such different personalities that i just think you blend perfectly

• you guys both switch black cat and golden retriever personalities i love this trope

• if youre like me and get sick 24/7 (little self insert my bad 😞) he will definitely take the day off (probably didnt even know what he was going to be streaming that day anyways so..)

• i personally dont know how good of a cook he is so this could go two ways

• one: he makes the best soup ever and you feel so much better just knowing how much he cares

• two: he sucks at making soup and you probably get food poisoning… it was worth it though with how hard he tried to make it up to you

• HE LOVES WATCHING YOH WORK OUT. LOVES IT.

• it probably turns him on tbh but he would never ever admit that ever

• his love language is physical touch through and through

• hes a sucker for hugs but again he would never admit that

• if you ask him to help dye your hair is could, once again, go two ways

• one: he ends up ruining your hair and you have to go to a salon

• two: he actually does really well and hes your new personal barber

• if he gets jealous i dont think he would really do anything but he’d probably pout for a bit

• “youre my woman, not theirs.” (i rlly hope u get my reference)

• he likes being the big spoon most of the time but if you big spoon him he will melt - will probably pout because he doesnt want you to know he actually enjoys it

• he genuinely does not have a type in any way shape or form but when he meets you hes just so 😍😍😍

RUNNERS UP: Meloco Kyoran, Mysta Rias

[windudemon]

rock ballads as personality types

is this love by whitesnake : IXTP (unsure of own feelings and reaches to the conclusion that he is in love by logic this would also apply to EXTJs reason because all these types share having ethics functions at the bottom)

is this love that i’m feeling is this the love that i’ve been searching for is this love or am i dreaming this must be love cause it’s really got a hold on me

november rain by guns n’ roses : ESTP (brutally logical and spitting facts. could also apply to entp)

nothin’ lasts forever and we both know hearts can change and it’s hard to hold a candle In the cold november rain (…) love is always coming, love is always going no one’s really sure who’s lettin’ go today walking away

when a man loves a woman by michael bolton: ESFJ (simppppppppppp)

when a man loves a woman spend his very last dime and trying to hold on to what he needs he’d give up all his comforts and sleep out in the rain if she said that’s the way, it ought to be

I’d Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That) by meat loaf: ENFP (ne dom, fi creative (especially for the twist at the end)

Will you raise me up? Will you help me down? Will you get me right out of this godforsaken town? Can you make it all a little less cold?

I can do that I can do that

Will you hold me sacred? Will you hold me tight? Can you colourise my life, I'm so sick of black and white? Can you make it all a little less old?

I can do that Oh I can do that

Will you make me some magic with your own two hands? Can you build an emerald city with these grains of sand? Can you give me something I can take home?

I can do that I can do that

Will you cater to every fantasy I got? Will you hose me down with holy water, if I get too hot? Will you take me places I've never known?

I can do that Oh, I can do that

After a while you'll forget everything It was a brief interlude and a midsummer night's fling And you'll see that it's time to move on No, I won't do that I won't do that

where the wild roses grow by nick cave & the bad seeds ft. kylie minogue: IxTJ (who the fuck else can even imagine to write a song like this? dark and "fe blindspot" for sure.)

on the third day he took me to the river he showed me the roses and we kissed and the last thing I heard was a muttered word as he knelt above me with a rock in his fist

on the last day I took her where the wild roses grow and she lay on the bank, the wind light as a thief and i kissed her goodbye, said, “all beauty must die” and i lent down and planted a rose ‘tween her teeth

winds of change by scorpions: INFJ (obviously, this song is about times changing (ni) and people (fe))

Listening to the wind of change The world is closing in Did you ever think That we could be so close, like brothers

The future's in the air Can feel it everywhere Blowing with the wind of change

Take me to the magic of the moment On a glory night Where the children of tomorrow dream away In the wind of change

tallulah by sonata artica: ixfj (this one particularly fe creative. the fe usage here is very effective because fe creative is supported by fi demonstrative)

Remember when we used to look how sun set far away, And how you said "this is never over", I believed your every word and I quess you did too, But now you're saying "hey, let's think this over".

You take my hand and pull me next to you, so close to you, I have a feeling you don't have the words, I found one for you, kiss your cheak, say bye, and walk away Don't look back cause I am crying.

I remember little things, you hardly ever do, Tell me why, I don't know why it's over, I remember shooting stars, the walk we took that night, I hope your wish came true, mine betrayed me.

You let my hand go and you fake a smile for me, I have a feeling you don't know what to do, I look deep in your eyes, hesitate a while, Why are you crying.

i don’t want to miss a thing by aerosmith: esfp (being “se” in the moment and enjoying that special, specific feeling towards a person obsessively)

don’t want to close my eyes i don’t want to fall asleep 'dause i’d miss you baby and i don’t want to miss a thing 'cause even when i dream of you the sweetest dream will never do i’d still miss you baby and i don’t want to miss a thing

bed of roses by bon jovi: ENFJ (theatrical and dramatic and over the top romantic) i’ll just close my eyes and whisper “baby, blind love is true” i want to lay you down in a bed of roses for tonight i’ll sleep on a bed of nails oh I want to be just as close as the holy ghost is and lay you down on a bed of roses

painted on my heart by the cult : ISFP!!! (fi deep and se sensory)

I've still got your face Painted on my heard Carved upon my soul Etched upon my memory . . .baby

And I've got your kiss Still Burning on my lips The touch of her fingertips Is left so deep inside of me . . .baby

just like heaven by the cure: INFP but also ENFP (ne playful, fi emotionally involved and alive)

"Show me, show me, show me how you do that trick? The one that makes me scream." she said "The one that makes me laugh." she said And threw her arms around my neck "Show me how you do it, And I promise you, I promise that I'll run away with you, I'll run away with you."

[eddys-plot-shop]

Faceclaim: Joanne Woodward

Love Interest: Sister Hilda

Fandom: Call The Midwife

Name: Jeanette Bingham

Myers Briggs Type: ESFJ

Occupation: Housewife/Philanthropist

Quote: "Why should I be bored in my own home when there’s people out there that I could be helping build a better life for?"

Fic Title: Reaching Out

Plot Summary: Wealthy London socialite, Jeanette Bingham is sick of wiling away her hours at home, alone. So, encouraged by her often absent husband to participate in some community outreach, she goes to London's east end and is pointed in the direction of Nonnatus House. There she finds some passion and purpose in her life by helping out the nuns and nurses financially, while supporting their patients in various capacities as well. And no one helps her adjust to life in Poplar more than Sister Hilda.

If you are interested in writing Jeanette's story, please comment, message or inbox me.

[raksha-bhediya]

Raksha Nithya Bhediya – Character Sheet

moon, a hole of light / through the big top tent up high / here before and after me / shinin' down on me / moon, tell me if i could / send up my heart to you? / so, when i die, which i must do / could it shine down here with you?

'cause my love is mine, all mine / i love mine, mine, mine / nothing in the world belongs to me / but my love mine, all mine, all mine

Archetype — The Mother Birthday — July 13, 1991 Zodiac Sign — Leo rising, Sun in Cancer, Moon in Leo MBTI — ESFJ Enneagram — Type 6: the Loyalist Temperament — Choleric Moral Alignment — Neutral Good Primary Vice — Pride Primary Virtue — Charity Element — Fire

Overview

Mother — Rupa Trivedi Father — Rakesh Trivedi Mother’s Occupation — Librarian // Leader of the Trivedi Pack Father’s Occupation — Banker Family Finances — Wealthy Birth Order — Youngest Brothers — Aarav (eldest brother) (b. 1985-2021), Viraj (older brother) (b. 1987-2021 (presumed dead)), Suraj (older brother) (b. 1989-2021 (presumed dead)) Sisters — None Other Close Family — her HUSBAND Rama Bhediya (d. 2021, presumed), Fatima (SIL, married to Aarav (d. 2021, presumed), Samira (SIL, married to Suraj (d. 2021, presumed), Nieces: Deepti (2012-2021 deceased) Nephews: Balaram (2015-2021 presumed dead), Vikram (2015-2021 presumed dead), Kumar (2018-2021 presumed dead) Best Friend — Fatima Enemies — The people who killed her family for ONE Pets — N/A Home Life During Childhood — Had three brothers who were very overprotective, had a lovely little life and was a spoiled princess who got anything she wanted. <3  Town or City Name(s) — Almora, India -- born and raised! What Did His or Her Bedroom Look Like — Lovely big window that looked out over the window, a large antique armoire painted white that she used to sit at for hours. They lived just out of the main city in a big old house with a few acres of beautiful land.  Any Sports or Clubs — None really Favorite Toy or Game — Anything that involves strategy  Schooling — PhD from Himgiri Zee University in Biochemical and Environmental Engineering Favorite Subject — Science Popular or Loner — Popularrr Nationality — Indian Culture — Hindu Religion and beliefs — Hindu

Physical Appearance

Face Claim — Simone Ashley Complexion — Dark brown, smooth skin Hair Colour — Black Eye Colour — Deep, dark brown Height — 5’8 Build — Lithe but smooth curves Tattoos — None Piercings — Earrings, nose Common Hairstyle — Usually back in a sensible bun or ponytail Clothing Style — Modern, professional Mannerisms — Reserved Usual Expression — 

Health

Overall (do they get sick easily)? — Werewolf genes on point! She hardly ever even gets the sniffles. Physical Ailments — None Neurological Conditions — Depression  Allergies — None Grooming Habits — Very good.  Sleeping Habits — Not great these days, lots of nightmares Eating Habits — Not eating as much as she should probably Exercise Habits — Goes for a run every morning and every evening Emotional Stability — Outwardly? Great. Inwardly? Not great! Body Temperature — Higher than average, on account of the werewolfness.  Sociability — Every extroverted usually, a little more reserved these days Addictions — None Drug Use — None Alcohol Use — Occasional drink, but does not get drunk

Your Character’s Character

Bad Habits — Chews on nails when anxious, can be snappy and short Good Habits — Very organized, being a good mama Best Characteristic — Self-confidence Worst Characteristic — Defensive  Worst Memory — When her whole family was massacred yeah Best Memory — The birth of her children, her wedding day <3 Proud of — Her family, her degree Embarrassed by — Not much Driving Style — N/A Strong Points — Sure, confident, nurturing  Weakness — Being scared Fears — Someone attacking her family again Phobias — None, she’s a brave girl Secrets — That she is a wolf Regrets — Not saving more of her family Feels Vulnerable When — Her wolf is showing lol Pet Peeves — People who don’t have self-esteem Conflicts — Wanting to save Dhaumya v not wanting to be exposed as a wolf  Motivation — Keeping Dhaumya safe Short Term Goals and Hopes — Keeping Dhaumya safe Long Term Goals and Hopes — Finding out what happened to her family Sexuality — Bisexual Day or Night Person — Night Introvert or Extrovert — Extrovert Optimist or Pessimist — Pessimist  Greatest Want — To help her family Greatest Need — To help her family

[apartment-mbti]

Red

ISFP: Birds of paradise, brighter than the sun

ISFJ: Autumn leaves caught in the wind

ISTP: A campfire brought to life

ISTJ: Blood splattered across the dining room

INFP: Flushed cheeks and shy smiles

INFJ: Rose petals scattered on the floor

INTP: Mars, untouchable and distant

INTJ: The addictive youtube dot com logo

ESFP: Wine stains on your carpet

ESFJ:  Red velvet cake on your birthday

ESTP: The button you’re not supposed to press

ESTJ: The objectively best kind of Skittles

ENFP: Lipstick left on glasses and collared shirts

ENFJ: That bath bomb you just bought

ENTP: UNO cards packaging

ENTJ: The red carpet of a VIP premier

[funkymbtifiction]

Thinking bias

I've had this thought on my mind for the past couple weeks, I'd like to hear your thoughts about it: is it only my impression, or there's a big thinking bias in the MBTI community? I'm glad the intuitive bias is being addressed the last couple years, but the more I consume MBTI content the more I notice feelers really get a weird treatment. Is like people actually believe being a feeling type is synonymous with being illogical and irrational.

No, it's not your imagination. Just like any creative or cool character is an N, any rational character is a T. Which, yes, thinkers are by in large more rational / objective than feelers when it comes to, say, business proposals -- but they also suffer from less stability in their emotional relationships, due to not prioritizing how their loved ones feel, so it's a trade off. That's like saying Indian tea is better than tea from China. T>F is better at objective assessments, but worse at being in a relationship. F>T is better at being in a relationship, but worse at objective assessments. In truth, we all may reach the exact same conclusions, just from a different thought process.

A constant claim I see is that feelers don't know the difference between what's best for them or a situation and their own preference. But that actually sounds like lack ability to prioritize and general immaturity, which is not an Fi/Fe trait.

Uh, that's not correct. An EFJ, for example, often knows what's best for everyone involved in the situation. Feelers come at rationality through the lens of either the collective (Fe) or how I feel (Fi), but they still use Ti and Te as support functions.

Can you have an irrational feeler living outside reality? Absolutely.

Can you have an irrational thinker living outside reality? Absolutely.

Are all successful business people thinking types then? You'd think so based on what you see around.

Haha, no. Actually I think in a statistics survey from a few years ago, they showed that ESFJs are the third-highest earners (behind ETJs), which makes total sense. Stability, purpose, drive, installing themselves in a career that will be necessary going into the future (Si) plus intense people/networking skills and the ability to make others like and assist them (Fe) and the ability to work in many directions and keep coming up with fresh ideas (Ne).

Another thing is that I watched different people on Youtube use the sick dog situation as a way to telling if someone is a thinker or a feeler: if the person takes a terminally ill dog to be put down then they are a thinker since that's the rational thing to do. If they can't do it they're a feeler. That sounds ridiculous to me, I've had so many experiences with not very healthy thinkers using logic to justify terrible actions or lack thereof. And in my own personal life this exact situation of a sick pet played out differently: my ENFP mom was the one who took our dog to be out down once because she didn't want him to suffer anymore. Luckily he didn't had to die, but she made that decision for his sake. My ESFP cousin herself killed a rabid dog once after he tried to attack her other farm animals, she felt guilty, but saw him as a threat that had to be eliminated. 

I used the dog analogy in my book, but from a different POV -- you are correct in that the mature thing to do is to put it to sleep, so that it is out of misery and doesn't need to suffer. And that's what I mean when I say everyone might reach the same conclusion, but from a different emotional/logical standpoint. Feelers and thinkers have both made that decisionfrom a humanitarian / compassionate standpoint -- I love this pet, but the facts are that it is suffering and it's more humane to put it out of its misery, so that it does not have to die slowly and painfully. I would go further and say many thinkers fiercely oppose putting a pet through a procedure they do not understand that prolongs their suffering (like cancer treatments). I've seen feelers postpone doing it, though, because they don't want to lose their pet; and I've seen TPs prolong it for the same reason.

Of course the way of making decisions differs between thinkers and feelers, so do their strengths and weakness. But I think people take it way too far into the realm of describing people that wouldn't be functional in real life. I think the typology community seems to never have learn that cognitive types are about preference, not inborn skill.

Well said!

If you can't get past your stereotypical biases, you will never be good at typing people and won't type them accurately. Prejudices toward certain types and against others (this one is superior to that one) is proof of their ignorance since they are either oblivious to, or ignorant of, the "trade-off" that comes from having different kinds of intelligence.

[artemisocs]

Full Name: Catherine Grace Carver

Nicknames: Catie, Cat, Catie-Cat, Princess

Title: Heart Of Glass

Fandom: Stranger Things 

Face Claim: Olivia Scott Welch

Sexuality: Bisexual

Alignment: Neutral Good

Element: Water

Soul Type: Server

Main Trope: Good Bad Girl

Age: 17

Myers Briggs Type: ESFJ-T, The Consul

Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff

Enneagram Type: Type 3, The Achiever

Love Interest: Eddie Munson

Important Relationships: Eddie Munson, Chrissy Cunningham, Jason Carver, Steve Harrington, Nancy Wheeler, Robin Buckley, Mary Carver, George Carver

Quote: Girlhood rots between my teeth, a sickness so sweet it aches

Theme Song: Edge Of Seventeen, Stevie Nicks

Plot Summary: Catie Carver is a good girl. She gets straight As, she’s on the cheer squad, she does ballet on weekends, and goes to church every Sunday. She’s the perfect golden girl. But Catie Carver is falling apart. Between her father’s controlling nature, her mother’s wine-induced obliviousness, and her brother’s overprotective attitude, her family keeps her walking a very fine line, and having the eyes of the school, and the entire town, on her at all times only makes it worse. She held it together for years, but losing her boyfriend — well, ex-boyfriend now — in the Starcourt fire was more than she could handle, and she found herself turning to Eddie Munson for a very specific kind of help. She thought that she could keep up the act, that she could make it through her senior year in one piece, and she almost did. But when she introduces Chrissy to Eddie and accompanies her to his trailer one night, the tightrope that she’s been walking on for years finally snaps, and as the town falls apart around her, it’s all Catie can do to try to keep her own secrets buried.

[heniareth]

The Basics (Astala Tabris)

(Pardon the pun XD Also, I finally have a screenshot with the detail level on high!)

Thank you so much @fade-and-loathing-in-thedas for the tag! It was so long ago, but I didn't get the chance to finish this until now. I’m going to put this under a cut bc it’s long, but I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed writing this ^^

Character’s name: Astala Tabris

Role in story: Hero of Ferelden

Age: 23 in DA:O

Physical description:

Astala Tabris is tall for a city elf, with dark skin and shoulder-length curly black hair (she has the time and muse to grow it out after DA:O). Despite her somewhat bony physique, she is stronger than she is dexterous. She normally walks through life with a very serious expression, almost bordering on stern, but when she laughs, she does so widely and loudly. She starts out with acne scars from her teenage years, but throughout DA:O, she keeps getting more and more of them. Her most impressive ones yet are burn marks across both arms and along the left side of her jaw from when she killed the Archdemon.

MBTI/Enneagram Personality Type:

Her MBTI type is ESFJ (and the description is pretty spot on). Her enneagram type is The Challenger (type 8), although she has some prominent traits of The Loyalist (type 6) and The Reformer (type 1).

Internal Life

What is their greatest fear?

She fears the loss of a loved one, sickness (especially in winter) and lacking money, as well as being trapped and left without resources.

Inner motivation:

She is very motivated by the suffering of others when directly confronted with it. Another big motivator is her relationship with others; she likes to take care of her friends.

Kryptonite:

Her loyalty to those relationships and her inability to admit that something is to big for her to take on.

What is their misbelief about the world?

That she has to save it by herself. That she is alone in her struggles and that only she can deal with them. That she knows best, or at least better.

Lesson they need to learn:

She needs to learn how to let things go. Sometimes, things end, and there is no good in clinging to something that’s already dead. She also has to learn to let others take over sometimes, because she needs help and sometimes she just doesn’t know best.

What is the best thing in their life?

Zevran is the absolute best. Her friends and family are close seconds. After that come warm and sunny afternoons, feastdays, dancing around a fire, plum cakes and fancy dresses.

What is the worst thing in their life?

Being a Grey Warden and having the possibility of going to the Deep Roads to die hanging over her head. And if another Blight were to break out, it would immediately garner the top spot on this list.

What do they most often look down on people for?

She finds the nobility absolutely ridiculous. She also has a hard time forgiving traitors, or people who put themselves before the needy. Finally, she has a hard time being respectful to people who can’t solve their own problems. Last, she doesn’t always take it well when people don’t want to follow her planned course of action.

What makes his/her/their heart feel alive?

She feels most alive when she can change somebody’s situation for the better, no matter how small the change. Gathering with friends and family or spending the day with Zevran to simply have fun and be silly is also very important to her.

What makes them feel loved, and who was the last person to make them feel that way?

Any gesture that shows that somebody genuinely cares for her; if they go with her through tough times knowing that they will be tough. She feels most loved when it’s deliberate and warm. The last one to make her feel loved like this is Zevran.

Top three things they value most in life?

Her friends, her family, and the fact that by being a Warden she has reached a position that allows her to push for significant changes. Other than that, she has a great appreciation for the little gifts of each day: flowers by the roadside, a sunny day, a good song, all of those are things she deeply cherishes.

External Life

Is there an object they can’t bear to part with and why?

She’s more of a people person than an object person. There are, however, some objects she keeps and won’t let go easily: the wedding ring Nelaros had made for her; her mother’s boots; and the earring Zevran gives her.

Describe a typical outfit for them from top to bottom:

On any given normal day during the Blight, Astala would have her hair tied back in a low ponytail or bun and covered with some fabric to keep off the dirt and gore. Over that she would strap her helmet. Under her leather armor, she wears one of the many human-sized woolen tunics she acquires over her travels and alters to fit her smaller elvhen frame. Her trousers are similarly thrifted and altered. Both garments are normally brightly coloured and show visible stitching where they have been ripped and mended. On the roas, she wears looted armor and matching boots on top of this. At camp, however, she’ll wear her mother’s boots--they are softer and more comfortable--or go barefoot if the weather allows for it. On rainy days, a heavy woolen cloak covering her and her backpack completes the ensemble.

What names or nicknames have they been called throughout their life?

Her mother would call her “da’mi”, an elvhen expression meaning “little blade”, while her father would address her as “little one”. Soris and Shianni call her by her name, or simply cousin. For the people of Ferelden she is first “the Warden” and then “the Hero of Ferelden”. Sten, Oghren and Shale stick to “Grey Warden” or simply “Warden”. Morrigan calls her by her name during a few select occasions. Leliana, Alistair and Wynne almost exclusively use her name. Zevran started out referring to her as “the Warden”, but as their relationship progressed he builds up the longest list of nicknames and terms of endearment. His usual form of address goes from “Warden” over “dear Warden”, “my dear Warden”, to “my Warden” and finally to “amore” or “amore mio”.

What is their method of manipulation?

Astala doesn’t usually do manipulation. When she does, she’ll try to play the person by playing whatever stereotype about elves comes in handy, or she’ll resort to outright lies or threats. She is, however, usually very convinced that she’s right, and can be quite forceful in asserting that.

Describe their daily routine:

Astala wakes up late when she can, but doesn’t get the chance to do so very often during the Blight. Breakfast is usually hectic, and consists out of whatever leftovers there are from last night’s dinner. Most days are spent walking; she’ll chat with any companion, sing along if Leliana strums up a song, try to convince Morrigan for the bazillionth time that she should learn how to shapeshift into a horse, or just walk quietly at the head of the group with a watchful eye and ear on the surrounding landscape. Lunch is served cold because cooking takes a long time and they have places to be. When the sun is about a hand’s width from the horizon, they make camp for the night and distribute chores. There’s plenty of them: cooking, washing bedrolls and clothes, mending torn and broken equipment, looking after armor, weapons, and boots. It tends to be dark by the time they sit down to eat. Astala usually takes first watch, as she has always been a night owl and the new Archdemon-filled dreams definitely don’t help. Once her watch is over, however, she tends to be tired enough to fall asleep as soon as she hits the bedroll.

Their go-to cure for a bad day?

Definitely some fun and relaxed time with friends and/or family. If she can cuddle into somebody, all the better.

Goals

How are they dissatisfied with their life?

There are many things Astala is unhappy with: the way elves are treated, her mother’s untimely death, having to leave her friends and family behind in the Alienage to join the Grey Wardens, as well as the coming of the Fifth Blight. As the events of DA:O progress, however, Astala is increasingly terrified of the consequences of the Joining. Dreams and attracting darkspawn she could live with; what angered her was the eventual revelation that the Joining was slowly killing her, and that she had about 20 more years to live. The worst thing was that nobody had told her before the Joining itself. Fear didn’t set in until traversing the Deep Roads, but when it did, it became paralyzing. If there’s one thing Astala knows, it’s that she’s never going back in there. The Calling scares the everliving daylight out of her, and she tries her hardest not to think about it.

What would bring them true happiness or contentment?

Astala reaches a point where she wants nothing more than to leave the Grey Wardens behind and forget all about them. Sadly, that’s not possible. Her dream is to one day have a family and a place to call her own, big enough to house her family and some friends if the latter need a place to stay.

What definitive step could they take to turn their dream into a reality?

During the events of Inquisition, she’s searching for a cure. Whether that will be enough to reverse the damage the Blight has already done to her, she doesn’t know.

How has their fear kept them from taking this action already?

It’s not that her fear of the Calling prevents her from taking action; rather, she has to keep it in check so that it doesn’t turn into an obsession that ends up consuming her.

How do they feel they can accomplish their goal while still steering clear of the thing they are afraid of?

Astala hopes that a cure will be enough to spare her a lonely death in the Deep Roads, or wasting away in sickness and madness. She also hopes the journey to find it doesn’t kill her or Zevran.

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Boy that was a long one XD Thanks for sticking with it to the end. I’m going to tag @yukichouji , @wild-houseplant , @siriskulksnerding and @arainayeet in case you'd like to do this. It’s a long one, so absolutely no pressure, especially with the holidays literally around the corner. Thanks again for the tag @fade-and-loathing-in-thedas ! I had a lot of fun with this XD

[messyobservationist]

Typology Usage

It’s important to remember what, exactly, typology should be used for. A lot of the time I see people falling out of love with systems like mbti and enneagram etc because other members of the community are taking it way too far. Typology is just organizable generalizations, not identity or even reality. Typology is by no means self sufficient; it relies on human feelings, and thought and decision making patterns. Those thought patterns are what verify typology, not the other way around. It’s like a fishing net with huge holes thrown over people and then adjusts itself to their individual shape- not a silicon mold people must fit into or otherwise risk being labeled as mistyped, a liar, or sick in the head by absolute strangers on the internet. Luckily, I’ve only had three or four experiences like those ones in the community, but I’ve seen way more of these go down for other people and it makes me really sad. So! Here’s a quick review of how typology can be used in a more productive way:

Typology Don’t s:

• seriously typing someone with little regard for what they say about themselves, their life, and their thought process

• making snap judgements about someone before getting to know them thoroughly, solely because of their type

• assigning all of their decisions, thoughts, values, or mannerisms to either their type or your own

• thinking “they can’t do that,” “they’re not good at that,” or “they’d never believe in that” about someone because of their type

• using type as an excuse for immaturity, toxic behavior, etc

• believing that type is transfixed rather than fluid and form-fitting: “this type can’t be empathetic,” “you clearly aren’t this type because your reasoning more resembled this type in this one instance,” and worst of all, “your presentation/behavior doesn’t fit this specific image I have of your type in my mind”

note: type can’t change, but our view of what a type actually is/means can change. It’s important to get down to the building blocks of what makes someone a certain type, and to recognize that some people will fit their type’s profile more than others of the same type will because, once again, types are only general

• avoiding a certain type because they’re your animus or opposing type (I call opposing types types whose blindspot’s are each other’s dominant function. Ex: Esfj and Intj)

• assigning someone a specific backstory, struggle, behavior, mannerism, or character flaw that they don’t necessarily have, purely based on their type

• discounting someone’s growth as them being mistyped / ignoring the positive attributes of a type in favor only of their negative ones (I see this one a lot in the enneagram community)

Typology Do s:

• include someone in their typing process! Ask them questions, collaborate, and believe what they say about themselves. You don’t necessarily have to involve them in the typology side of it, but make sure not to solidify someone��s type in your brain before you know them well or have even spoken to them about themselves at all

•keep in mind someone’s type as a kind of roadmap to avoid miscommunication, making sure to heed each other’s corrections to that map in case something on it doesn’t fit

• understanding that because of you’re cognitive differences with someone, the intent of what they say is most likely different than how you’re taking it (make sure to communicate how someone made you feel by what they said to verify wether or not that’s what they really meant- don’t hastily assume anything either way )

• don’t. assess. people’s. skill. set. based. on. their. type. before. getting. to. know. them. as. a. person. first! I‘ve heard about this from my friends and family all the time in their interviews, college courses, work, etc where the group is tested in a specific type system and either turned down or accepted based on their supposed type. Very wrong indeed

• use knowledge of your type to identify flaws and weak points and, without stopping there, work on them. Typology is a growth tool not an excuse pool to pull from. And on that note, instead of wallowing in self hatred alone, identify your strengths and amplify them!

• adjust your view of what makes or breaks a type; always be open to new ways of qualifying type, since most people aren’t going to fit the stereotypes we like to create

note: if you’re interacting with a member of the community who says they’re one type but it seems to you like they’re really another, maybe engage them in a polite conversation about how they arrived at that type instead of publicly attacking them. If their method of qualifying type is different than yours, rather than calling them wrong or mistyped, explore the differences between how the two of you view type and leave it on a good note. Everyone is bound to have a different interpretation of typology systems. Who are we to think that only our way is right, if their way seems to have worked wonders for them in their life?

• give them the benefit of the doubt if you know that your type and their type easily clash! That said, make sure to grow from each experience. Just because you know that there is the possibility of an explosion doesn’t mean you should do them the injustice of the cold shoulder. And just because your brains “speak different languages” (as my mom puts it) doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t learn their language. (That doesn’t mean that you should abandon your own to speak their language either though)

• not all types are established in the same way! Make sure to ask about someone’s story if you’re interested in finding similarities between their’s and others’ of their type, but don’t just go around making assumptions about what someone has struggled with based on it. Everyone’s specific experiences helped to form who they are. Circumstances aren’t inherently standardized

• know that people grow, and that just because someone isn’t struggling with something now doesn’t mean they never struggled with it. Type shouldn’t only be valid or identifiable by toxicity. You’re not less of a 4 if you’re not a “pick-me-girl” or less of an 8 because you have the self-discipline to stay calm in an argument. You’re not more of an Entp for being an amoral devil’s advocate or more of an Infp for crying more frequently than others. (These four examples are not reflective of how I view these types at all- I’m using examples I’ve seen other people in the community bring up during typology discourse)

In closing,

I hope this helps! I’ve definitely done the dont’ s more than I’d like to admit…deprogramming bad typology habits is not a piece of cake! But to stay in love with the world of typology, grow as a person, and improve my relationships, it’s totally worth it to me. And so yeah! If y’all have anything else helpful to add, please do! See ya on the flip sideeee

[the-entj-scientist]

Stupid things the types would do to save the environmet

Get sick from eating that one spoiled carrot in the back of the fridge so that they don't have to throw it away: ENTJ, ENFJ, INFJ

Grow their own wheat just to have it spoil, because they found out that they have no way of processing it: ISTJ, INTP, ISFP, ISTP

Wash their hair with rye flour and cold water, insisting that they actually prefer it that way: INFP, ENFP, ISFJ

Throw a party to raise money for a great project to save the environment... which creates a lot of totally unnecessary trash: ESFP, ESFJ, ESTP

Go hunting for a sustainable meat supply which actually seems like more of an excuse for their gun-collection: ENTP, ESTJ, INTJ

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

hi! previous anon here lmao

so, i've never really considered myself to be high in sensing, so reading esfj as a possibility is so interesting. i've always been sure that i'm not bodily aware nor diligent enough to be an xsfj or xsfp. i got by in school by my paying attention, being passionate for a topic or sweet talking a teacher into giving me a bad grade lmao but i know for sure that i have really bad se, i think. i have the horrible tendency to zero in on anything i'm remotely interested in and learning anything and everything about it, forgetting to sleep, eat or take care of myself.

i really struggle to be kind to myself. i see everything i didn't achieve as a failure and not as an opportunity to better myself, which especially hurts in regards to other people. when i realize i was unkind to others, i beat myself a lot and think i'm the sole person to blame, usually forgiving the hurt others caused me too easily. at the time, i'm resentful and unforgiving when it comes to bad behaviour and have ghosted multiple people that just seemed too careless of their own actions.

my career goals have always stayed in the same field, but i'm too anxious to really go after them and want to study rather to have a better career option than to rely soley on my art to keep me afloat financially. story telling and writing is just a very essential part of who i am, but i think taking the rejection of knowing i'll never be good enough to be published hinders me way too much. i'd love to write either romance or horror. i think those are two concepts that just define us as people and i really love exploring them in fiction.

hmm what else... i try to keep myself active and in shape, but overdo it a lot which leads me to get sick very frequently. writing all of this, really makes me see how much of an all or nothing perspective i have in life haha

i hope this helps you a bit more! sorry my last ask didn't provide enough information, i'm so anxious to come into other people's inboxes lmao

I'm afraid I need to pass on this. I've covered this before but it's often really difficult for me, when I've indicated a certain type seems more likely, to retype based on a follow-up question. I haven't kept track so this could be confirmation bias/selective memory but it seems to disproportionately happen when I suggest that someone might be a sensor instead of an intuitive, and I hope people can understand that at that point I find it difficult to be objective.

I also always wonder why the additional new (vs. clarifying/elaborating) information comes out now rather than in the first question - and there are certainly many neutral reasons for that - but I think there's a lot of value to be had in the first impression and anything following that is going to be influenced by trying to seem a specific way to me.

I also said this elsewhere but: for better or for worse, a few years ago I had someone bother me over chat (which I turned off some time after that incident) for hours and when I continued to reiterate what I thought they were, essentially end up saying "I just need you to tell me that I'm <type I think I am>" and that incident has colored a lot of how I interact with people, because I think most people have good intentions but some people really do just want a rubber stamp and I want to be clear that if you come to me trying to confirm a type, there is always a chance I will say "actually I disagree". (And I do confirm types sometimes, if it seems reasonable, and if you keep reading you'll see that I still can't rule out ENFP, I just don't think it's the only possibility).

With that said I also still think from this that you sound slightly more like a high Fe user, and that you don't sound like a high Ni user, and some of these behaviors (not taking great care of yourself especially) can potentially be traced to the fact that you're young. ENFP is still possible. The part about wanting something more stable even if it's not your primary dream is not great evidence for ENFP but I could see an ENFP with a 6 core, or just who was influenced by someone (parents, cultural, specific experiences) feeling this way.

I think your best bet, honestly, is to give it more time, perhaps after you've graduated and have been out of school for a few months, and revisit then, but I would still look at both ENFP and ESFJ in the meantime.

[atomicfilm]

the types as things i’ve done while sick

INTP: started asking people if they agree with Kant’s belief in transcendental thoughts and then proceeded to read Foucault’s Discipline and Punish and laughed the entire time

ENTP: said pedofulls instead of pedophiles while in a very serious debate

INFP: gave up on trying to function and watched animated shorts instead 

ENFP: I had to go to work with my friend who was high and I told her she seemed normal and she asked me who I hang out with and that’s when I realized that the only people who match my natural energy are usually high

INTJ: researched the death of Louis III and then tweeted about it bc it was funny

ENTJ: told my friend I would accept his apology in 5-8 business days, then waited 5 days and told him we had to return my acceptance due to a manufacturing error

INFJ: argued with my friend about dromking worter (drinking water) in between telling her random history facts

ENFJ: responded to my mom saying “stop growing up on me” by blowing a raspberry and giggling (she laughed, it’s okay, I swear)

ISTJ: decided to make this post despite it probably not being of high quality and having to fix lots of grammatical errors (like saying “grammical”, for one)

ESTJ: sat my cat down to talk to ask him why the conversion rate of our business was so low

ISFJ: napped all day and only woke up to eat 2 burgers and tell my friend i loved him 

ESFJ: tried to figure out how to make my schedule work when I had too many social events planned only to discover I couldn’t make it work 

ISTP: looked up at what point do you feel high when taking Advil only to find advice saying that you would probably overdose and die before that 

ESTP: said the words “if you don't look like Bling Bling from Johnny Test, I will not accept a ring ring, so give it a rest”

ESFP:

my sister pretended to be sick too because she wanted to drink my Gatorade and eat my soup 

ISFP: my friend showed me a picture of his beautiful wolf dog and i told him that he would like my dog and we should have a dog show but gave him pictures of scooby doo mistakes instead

[mbtitypingobservations]

MBTI OBSERVATIONS #17

INTP: Can be great at reading people, especially if their interest lie in human behavior. They will use their analytical skills to collect data on how people act and what it means, though they often struggle to act in a way according to the situation.

INFP: They give A LOT of second chances, but rarely forgive and forget, which can be a big struggle to maintain relationships in the long run.

INFJ: The type of people that end up cooking food in a completely wrong way (e.g chicken in the microwave) but end up making it good and not getting sick??

INTJ: Often enjoy ASMR videos, not necessarily the eating ones, but role-plays with gentle caretakers and personal attention.

ENTP: Despite being known as “fire starters”/ devil’s advocates, they can be very relaxed when you wrong them and are rarely petty. They rarely start actual social drama or public scenes if something is about them or their personal relationships.

ENFP: Often struggle to find boundaries, especially between work and pleasure. They often find themselves overworking in aspects of their life they are passionate in, which can actually lead to them losing themselves and struggling to see what’s important to them.

ENTJ: They LOVE their to-do lists, but they are often very messy and hard to comprehend to an untrained eye. ENTJs tend to pour their thoughts into their to-do lists, which can often turn into a diary entry with key points.

ENFJ: They journal so much. Journaling helps them improve and discover themselves, as it keeps them grounded accountable. It also often helps them come in touch with their morals.

ISFP: Very often they seem pretty cold or unbothered in public. They will rarely show their warmth and rather prefer to put up an easygoing persona in order to maintain a peaceful environment and be able to take all the beauty around them in. This can also be why they need lots of alone time after socializing.

ISTP: So many ISTPs have a very similar handwriting? Often very rounded or slanted, rarely writing in cursive. It’s actually also pretty neat and easy to read.

ISFJ: So many ISFJs pucker their lips when their face is resting and when they are alone. Their eyes tend to be concentrated on one point while their lips really do look like “👄”

ISTJ: Have an incredibly hard time admitting they are wrong, often trying to find arguments to prove they are right despite knowing better. In these moments they often get very stressed out and can be more emotional than usual, starting to adopt the “i feel it so it’s right” mentality for a bit.

ESTJ: Incredibly sassy and creative comebacks when they feel threatened. It is often when the ESTJ is aggressive or angry that their “quirky” side comes out.

ESFJ: When they relate to a song so deeply, they tend to either make it known to everyone (pointing at themselves while singing it) or completely shut off and lose touch with the conversation taking place.

ESFP: You can tell what they are feeling based on their stories. They often put subtle hits about their state of mind through memes they repost, songs of choice, etc, intentionally or subconsciously.

ESTP: When an ESTP is hosting you, expect them to keep refilling your glass with your drink of choice and not even ask if you want more. They love to have their guests indulge in things and have enough of them.