#Tmagp spoilers

[colin-becher-death-countdown]

Is Colin Becher Still Alive:

Yes.

Colin Becher Has Survived:

[they-call-me-haiku]

tma took its sweet time to get into the romance while tmagp is here like “love triangle? jealousy? lingering feelings for your ex-lover? rivals to lovers workplace romance? spooky workplace polycule? buckle in because we’re doing it all!”

[thebabycage]

I know everyone is freaking out about the whole Celia is from another universe and Alice still has feelings for Sam but no one seems to be talking about what Lena said about the OIAR’s role in the world. She said that there were opposing forces in the world, which matches with the theory that the fears carried over in the same way, but then goes on to say some benevolent, others not. This basically undoes almost every theory about the entities in TMAGP being the same as TMA because not a single one of the dread powers were “benevolent”, at best they were merciful to a very few people as only the web had sentience and thus the capacity to be kind, even if it never was. This means that either the fears have changed their ways, perhaps grown sentience like the web, or they have taken a new form entirely. Think about it, the cases do occasionally match the fears, the flesh and Ink5oul, sort’ve bonzo and the slaughter, but what kind of fear is sh for crazy stonks? Maybe the web or the buried? I’m personally leaning to the “the fears have been so altered that they’ve taken on new forms entirely”, kind of theory. I read a theory that instead it’s desires like greed or a steamy bonzo lap dance instead and they might be onto something. I personally don’t think Jonny Sims would just make it “the fears are back again but now they are sometimes nice!” So he’s probably made some change. Either way our boys are cooking and we are eating good every Thursday.

[brettanomycroft]

"Managing the bad guys"?

The computers have started talking out of nowhere, your IT manager had a mental breakdown and is now sneaking into his own place of work, one of your external operators just stole a corpse, two of your employees broke into a condemned building where a man had his eyes ripped out(?) and have possibly unleashed a new and vengeful horror, another one of your employees woke up on the side of a motorway with no memories of how she got there, your externals liaison girlbossed too close to the sun and is in the middle of an existential crisis, and there's still 👏no👏tea👏in the👏break room👏!

The O.I.A.R. is managing bad guys the way I "manage" my anxiety or "manage" my time.

[oiar-analyst]

I know some people have talked about it on here, but I am so deeply intrigued by the "some of them are benevolent" comment from Lena. This is such a sharp contrast with Archives, where Gerry explicitly tells us that there's no forces of hope or love opposite the Fears. And it immediately got me thinking about the possibilities.

So discounting the obvious chance that Lena is lying, what is the standard for benevolence? Is it just that some of them are willing to with the OIAR? Is it that some of them are only selectively harmful? Or are there actual, fully "good" entities that we haven't seen yet?

There's a common thread through multiple Protocol statements that my friends and I have been calling "Fortune", the theme that a lot of people are getting some power that warps and twists their desires, initially granting them what they want but eventually consuming them. It seems to have many parallels to an Archives entity: objects of power (dice, violin), servants (dice guy, wandering merchant), and even a root in human consciousness. Would Fortune be considered benevolent by some categorizations? Violin guy certainly profited from it with minimal ill effects.

Regardless, I can't wait to see more of these entities, more of the Externals, and to see how Gwen adapts to her new knowledge of the world.

[thetinkerer]

!!! Mild TMP Spoiler !!!

CAT scoring we've seen so far. No plot or real story Spoiler I don't think. Reminder I'm ignoring CAT and the DPHW for now.

1RBC-Reanimation (Partial), Regret

2RBC- Architecture (Liminal), Hunger

3RBC- Transformation (Full), Dysmorphic

1C- ???

2C- Infection (Full), Arboreal

3C- Collection (Blood), Musical

1RB- Injury (Neddles), intimidation / Mascot (kid), Frenzy, Murder

2RB- Disappearance (Undetermined), Invitation

3RB- Dice (Bone), Fate / Gambiling (Application), Self-Destruction

1RC- ???

2RC- Dolls, Watching/ Agglomeration (Miscellaneous), congregation

3RC- ???

23RAB - Transformation (Eyes), Trespass

(If the pattern follows, we should be seeing 13RAB and 33RAB, or would it be 21RAB and 22RAB, maybe 12 and 31? I'll have to wait and see)

23RC- Tattoo (Corspe), Compulsion

(Would the same trend follow?)

Base on Alice's explanation, The "R" is just a Dash. Is that important?

[m3ntal-hiatus]

there’s no canonical agreement over the afterlife in tma, but it’s contradictory given that mr bonzo is a creature that could have only been conjured in the deepest pits of hell

[cheesuschrist-iii]

Alex and Jonny were really like: OOohh so you think bonzo is a TWINk yeah well what if he went to the STrIPPED ClUB and we called the episode GETTING OFF haha

like what

[origami-trust]

tmagp spoilers, CAT123 alchemy theorizing

for your viewing consideration: the OIAR's logo, showing what appears to be an inverted alchemical symbol of the Philosopher's Stone...

so, let's talk Category 1, 2, and 3, today CAT1 in particular. I think these may be matching to the alchemical primes: 🜍 ☿ 🜔 Respectively: Soul, Spirit, and Body - all seen in the sigil of the OIAR What elements of fear and dread might associate with each of these? Let's start with Category 1. Our category 1 statements so far have been: -Reanimation (partial) -Needles! -Mr. Bonzo! -Mr Bonzo again Or, to approach this from the other angle: what is *not* in the CAT23 statements that is in the above: (Red Canary and the Tattoo (corpse) -/- compulsion) I think there's a strong case for Category 1 being that of Body. The reanimation had a focus on the remains, Needles and Mr. Bonzo are highly visceral. There's a focus on flesh, less so on spirit/soul. In contrast, RedCanary was much less physically visceral and much more driven by emotions and curiosity and desire to know - similar to the other 23 statement. Lena Kelley: "In order for the wheels to keep on turning, all these forces need to be monitored and balanced. That is where we come in."

previously: nice job everybody who voted that the OIAR might be monitoring and maintaining "alchemical" balance! Lena's recent words seem to support that...but who knows if she can be believed~

[pineconnie]

tmagp 14 spoilers

i’m so fucking autistic i can’t tell if this is “the statement is genuine but i’m being sarcastic to make it seem not serious or like a lie” sarcasm or “i’m going to say the complete opposite of the truth bc i’m desperately trying to stay in denial” sarcasm HELP

[gorinichserpant]

Anyone else feel that the app from Futures and the dice from Rolling With It are in a way the same thing? The specifics of it are actually quite distinct, but they share a very similar plot structure of "gambling man pushes his luck until it bites his ass". If there are distinct entities in this show, then both of these would belong to the same one.

[colin-becher-death-countdown]

Is Colin Becher Still Alive:

Yes.

Colin Becher Has Survived:

[faultyvessel]

Me impatiently waiting for Thursday for this ONE LINE I know you will all go feral over to be known

[crimebell]

MAGp - 013

Celia has a baby! A little guy! Named Jack! In any other universe I'd accept the father just being deeply unimportant but what if Jack is like gonna Itadori it and have a fucked up evil parent for fucked up evil reasons

They are managing the bad guys. Good stuff. Same thing as being a manager at like lockheed martin i guess

Betting against yourself and preforming various degrees of self harm to ensure that bet does remind me of the self mutilation from the tattoo episode, and to a point the voyeur and liminal episode as well- from willingly and intentionally putting yourself in harmful situations to directly harming yourself

Though I'm a bit lost on the horrifying insect chittering at the end. Hey what's that about

[micechomper]

oh alice, alice my dear, i heard that little glitch after you said “I’m happy your happy” ohhh alice!

[mechanicalclown]

Just listened to tmagp 14.

What am I even supposed to do with this episode