#and i just don’t see mbb for s4.

[lesbianrobin]

If you had to rank all the 14 ST characters in the main group from most to least fav what would your ranking look like? (And by main group i mean the characters including murray and erica, and excluding karen, basically everybody involved in the final battle in 3x08)

ok let me preface this by saying that i literally love all of these characters i don't hate any of them okay?? let's go... ascending order for the drama!!

14. murray. no explanation needed. no offense to brett gelman he's phenomenal and i honestly think murray is really funny, but he's more or less just a plot device with some comic relief slapped on top.

now things get spicy <3

13. erica. love her to death! but she's fairly one-dimensional, once again primarily a comic relief character. maybe in s4 she'll get some more depth like the older kids have, but for now she's sort of a default next-to-last :/

12. will... no tea no shade but the kid's barely in the show! i absolutely want good things for him but like. i barely even know him. yknow? he’s only above erica bc he’s gay and she’s a capitalist. also that scene in s1 right before he gets snatched by the demogorgon when he just runs straight to the shed and grabs a goddamn shotgun and loads it fully ready to defend himself... that shit slapped good for him!!

11. this Will be controversial among some and i Know this character is many people's favorite... if you follow me already this is probably not going to surprise you but. nancy. i just think her character is kind of inconsistent, so i have a hard time really clicking with her :/ sometimes i love her and i think she's so cool and funny and hot (that hospital scene in s3... my GOD what a badass!) and other times i would like to fistfight her.

also let me get this out of the way right now: i'm aware that jonathan's character is ALSO super inconsistent!! i know okay??? i know!!!! please nobody judge me for how high rat boy gets on this ranking okay i'm literally making this up as i go along so idk if he's next or if he's like in the top five but i have a disease called Unreasonably Invested In Wildly Speculative Meta-Analysis Of Stranger Things which makes it impossible for me to be normal about jonathan and this is my ranking so i pick the bad taste!!!

10. joyce! i love her bro she's MOM and she tries so fucking hard all the goddamn time and she's so STRONG and kind and adorable... joyce is honestly a very unique and refreshing character ESPECIALLY if you’re considering stranger things within the horror genre which is often defined by these very specific archetypes of mothers and motherhood that i can get into if anyone is interested but like basically. love her <3

9. dustin <3 what an icon... i love him i love how he straight up killed a man and hardly flinched because it was to protect his friends and i love how he and his little girlfriend have a song they sing together and i love how he either has an insanely warped perspective on things due to low self-esteem or he just sometimes flatout lies to gain sympathy either way he’s a BABY and he’s so FUNNY and KIND and even when he’s scared he keeps going... ugh god and i love how even when he doubts his friends’ devotion to him he NEVER ever questions his devotion to them and he never ever considers leaving them behind or not stepping up to help them... he’s so brave!

8. mike is such a fucking BITCH but even more than that he is an ANGEL... literally his range who is doing it like him??? nobody!!!! graffiti’d the bathroom stall at school... hates cops.... what a legend. also i like how fucking goofy and dumb his hair looks in s3. also he’s very soft with his friends and it makes me cry. ALSO he literally stepped off a fucking CLIFF he was ready to DIE FOR DUSTIN and i know all the kids have risked their lives for each other but this wasn’t even a monster yknow this was just... bullies.... threatening his friend..... and mike couldn’t fucking let it happen bro he was ready to just step off the edge to keep dustin safe and it’s SO MUCH... and god the kindness he showed el when they first met!!! he’s a total angel and a total shithead and it’s amazing.

7. lucas my tiny baby hero.... he’s so strong and cool and capable yet at the same time he’s such a COMPLETE dork!!! he very seriously believes his slingshot wrist rocket is a lethal weapon and then he ACTUALLY USES IT AS A LETHAL WEAPON TO SAVE HIMSELF AND HIS FRIENDS!!! he hacks off a giant monster’s freaky tentacle arm thing with an axe to save his friend AND he keeps a bunch of action figures and random dice on his bedside table bro he just thinks they’re neat!!! like... i genuinely love him so much god he cares so much about his friends and he’s so brave and smart and loving... i know he is not tiny anymore but he is my tiny baby hero okay...

6. hopper! big man care for little girl... protect and love kids... dance to dad music... be goofy and hot... have trauma.... admit his faults and attempt to grow from them.... what's not to love?

5. jonathan... look i can’t explain it except that he loves his goddamn baby brother so much and i’m a sucker with extensive headcanons alright!

4. el!!! feral little darling girl!!! i literally cannot articulate the love that floods my heart whenever i see her face or think about her for too long she’s just... so strong but more than that she’s so incredibly KIND!! when she has every reason to be selfish and cruel and yeah at times she does let herself get a little mean but on the whole she’s always so goddamn kind and loving and selfless no matter how afraid she is or how she’s hurting... and i hope that with her powers gone in s4 she’ll maybe learn how to see herself as more than a tool to protect those she loves yknow but that’s off topic skdncmn i just think that el is such an incredible character with such depth!! she can be so grave and mature yet she’s still such an innocent child at the same time, and i think that both the writing and mbb’s acting are handled such that both of these things WORK and feel real and they make el (and her trauma) so believable. i just love her to death.

3. robin, light of my lesbian little life!! unfortunately she's wayyy too much like me to snag the top spot lmao. maybe once we get another season with her she’ll trample the competition but for now my baby is in a solid third place <3 i’ve never seen a lesbian on screen who i felt so accurately represented me and my experiences!! she feels so real and in just one season she’s become one of my favorites on the whole show, and i cannot fucking wait to see what else we learn about her and what development we see from her in s4. 

2. as u may have guessed... max!! i know i said this was my subjective opinion but here i’ll just say it: max is objectively one of the best characters on the show. she’s so strong and funny and quick on her feet while harboring some real pain and insecurity at the same time, and both of these aspects of her character are married perfectly, logically connecting to one another and joining with sadie’s incredible acting to create an amazing character who feels just... so real!! i absolutely adore her and i CONSTANTLY tear up just from thinking about her skdncmn...

1. what if my number one wasn't steve. like can y'all imagine???? if i just said like will or some shit???? genuinely i did consider giving max or robin top billing here but i just Can't i've dedicated too goddamn much of my life to steve harrington to deny that he's my one and only. is there anything to say that hasn't already been said? look at the bitch. just look at him. 

what other answer could there be?

[losersclubasshole]

stranger things thoughts n spoilers under the cut! i really enjoyed this season. 

-one of my favorite things about st has always been the aesthetic of the show. the eighties-inspired visuals are always so strong and this season looked especially stunning— that mall?? holy shit. i love seeing vintage logos and the fashion (el’s look this season was so kickass) and the color palette this season was so beautiful. it felt like summer (and fireworks were popping outside of my house when i watched the finale it was very atmospheric)

-the transitions between scenes really worked for me, especially the comedic ones (“it’s impossible to break in!!1!!”) they built tension and felt very cheesy eighties scifi. the whole evil russians thing also felt very period

the adults

-i’ve never been super huge on jopper but this season won me over. besides all the fighting, they did make a really good team.

-murray and alexei were hilarious and i loved their duo, especially juxtaposed with joyce and hopper. the scene in the car was so funny and then the emotional whiplash of the woodpecker scene man :(

-like everyone else with a pulse i am in love with winona ryder, and she really shined this season. joyce grew so much as a character without disregarding her trauma, she’s a badass and man after that finale she deserves a goddamn break

scoops troop

-god erica was so good. all of her lines were gold and i love that her and dustin kind of bonded by the end (THE MY LITTLE PONY THESIS!!!). i think someone needs to make a gifset of nancy giving dustin a pep talk at the snow ball and then erica insulting him

-the erica/steve/robin/dustin dynamic was just overall really good.

-i esp liked dustin taking care of robin and steve when they were drugged— that was really good.

-so let’s talk about robin. i was so ready for her to be one dimensional and just like? steve’s girlfriend or whatever. and after the first couple episodes i was already impressed— robin was fucking awesome!! she’s a badass!! translating the russian code, she was so funny, maya hawke did an amazing job with her character. and when she came out??? man i fucking lost it. i paused the show and called someone and just said STRANGER THINGS SAID GAY RIGHTS and she said she didn’t want spoilers so i hung up. i did not expect them to go there with robin, but i’m so glad they did.

the party

-i think mike and eleven are very cute but watching them make out at the beginning made me a little uncomfortable? people sexualizing these kids (esp mbb) has been a problem so it just felt a little icky. but mike serenading el was great and very much relatable and his love speech (the thing old people say to each other) was precious.

-i loved seeing them just!! be teenagers!!

-max and el going to the mall and madonna playing and el starting to find herself was so cathartic

-the kids had some really iconic moments but “I DUMP YOUR ASS” was one of the best, and max+el’s moment on the bus after was very very good

-so, will. i’m upset that he didn’t have much to do this season after those first couple episodes. but the fight with mike and him destroying castle byers really hit me. noah schnapp is so damn talented— he captured so perfectly that feeling of alienation from your friends, that feeling of realizing childhood is really over now. as a queer person that hit me especially hard

jancy

-i felt for nancy this season, and watching her deal with misogynist pigs in the workplace made me respect her on a new level. everyone on this show deserves a goddamn break but i want to see nancy succeed.

-i wasn’t sure if i would enjoy the whole gang being separated for this season but i ended up enjoying all of the storylines and it made the payoff at the end when they were all reunited really cool.

-i was in a play my junior year and the main character was always referencing his girlfriend— SUSIE BABY— and she didn’t show up until the very end of the show. so when dustin started talking about his girlfriend suzie from camp i immediately thought of that play, and the ending had me floored. i really love that gaten got to sing and i loved everyone’s reactions and i esp loved how campy that duet was

-a lot of people are upset with billy’s death, but i think that’s what had to happen. it felt real. or at least, as real as heroic death by otherworldly monster can get. honestly i was kind of indifferent to the whole billy thing this season despite it being a main plot point, but dacre’s acting was very very good

-the hopper voiceover at the end really had me crying in my camp know where shirt from target. man,

going forward:

-i really don’t think hopper is dead. they didn't actually show him die?? and the post credits scene.. i feel like it would have been a bigger deal if they weren’t planning on coming back to this next season

-s4 nancy in a blazer a la working girls. shoulder pads baby!!

-will is going to have to talk to mike about the fight that was never addressed.

-i want more of robin! robin coming out and robin maybe getting a girlfriend and robin and steve being friends (thank god steve has a friend his own age god).

-those goodbyes felt really short— i bet fall or christmas 2020/1986 the byers are going to be back in town visiting or something and shit is going to go down.

i probably could come up with more to say but i want to go get sonic before happy hour is over

[ur-a-banditlikeme]

My unpopular ST opinions

Lumax is SUUUPER underrated and deserves more attention next season

I wasn’t sad when Alexei died

Harringrove is DISGUSTANG

The directors and MBB need to think of more creative ways for El to fight monsters other than her just screaming at them because it’s getting real old lmao

I wish they had kept the love triangle between Dustin, Max, and Lucas instead of Dustin randomly having a girlfriend out of nowhere

(This isn’t unpopular but) Will Byers is gay lol no question about it. The directors obviously know about byler otherwise why else would they include ‘Its not my fault you don’t like girls’ ? They could have easily said ‘Its not my fault you don’t have a girlfriend’ but they used this line for a reason

I felt like Hopper was really ooc this season ngl

I don’t think byler will be canon but I do think Will had or has a crush on Mike at some point

That Mileven kiss where El tells Mike that she loves him was cringey asf. Deadass looked like she was trying to eat his face

We really need a friendship between Max and Mike next season because honestly they would be such a duo

Billy is dead

I hope S4 focuses more on the trauma that the kids (and adults) have gone through

Let S4 be about someone else other than El pls

Season one was the worst season. Not because it was bad, but compared to the others it’s the worst. It drags out for too long

I low key want to see Max and Erica interact in season 4 because I guarantee that Erica is so confused as to what Max sees in Lucas

Eleven is overrated. I don’t hate her at all but she gets way too much hype when there are other characters out there