#bobasa ygo

[yugiohmangaoutofcontext]

[deathandnonexistentialdread]

now we know what the "Sa" stands for

[themattress]

13 things from the Pharaoh's Memories arc that the YGO anime changed for the worse

That aren't stupid additions like Kaiba's role and the Ancient Egyptian "Duel Disks".

1.) The character of Bobasa

In the manga, Bobasa is the living personification of the Millennium Tablet, which is why he has imprints for all seven Millennium Items in his body. He is kind, but also wise and dignified. But in the anime, he's a random NPC that Yugi and his friends meet in the Memory World, with Shadi replacing him as the one who takes them inside the Millennium Puzzle before they get there. He is a bumbling childlike simpleton always talking about food (because he's fat, get it?), and has a truly baffling send-off where feeding him causes him to inflate like a balloon and take the heroes to the tomb where the Pharaoh's name is before fading out of existence while singing. Why include him at all if they were gonna change him so much?

2.) Domino City Museum

In the manga, it was built up since the start of the Battle City arc that Yami Yugi had to hold up all three Egyptian god cards to the tablet in the Domino City Museum in order to unlock his lost memories and discover his destiny. Well, in the anime, he does do this....and magical interference by filler villain Dartz causes this ritual to fail. By the time we get to the Pharaoh's Memories arc, the tablet has inexplicably been moved to Egypt, where Yugi and his friends go and reunite with the Ishtar siblings way ahead of schedule, and it's just not as effective.

3.) The Diaha between the Priests

In the manga, we get a chapter dedicated to a training Diaha (Ancient Egyptian monster duel) between 6 of the Pharaoh's priest, with his 7th serving as referee. Not only is it just fun on its own merits, but we also get to see more of Seto's character, which even leads into a Diaha between him and the Pharaoh showing their rivalry, which is more brotherly than antagonistic. However, the anime didn't adapt this chapter at all, which kind of screws up the pacing IMO.

4.) Seto the Anti-Racist

This exchange between Seto and the assholes stoning Kisara was cut in the anime. Boooo!

5.) Bakura: Past and Future

In one of the more convoluted alterations the anime made, Yami Bakura's shadow that he hid inside the Millennium Puzzle does nothing except re-merge with him as he follows Yami Yugi into the Memory World and possesses Thief King Bakura, only to then re-split from him when Bakura puts him inside of Honda who is possessed by him. In the manga, there is no such occurrence - Yami Bakura's shadow stays in the Puzzle and follows Yugi and his friends into the Memory World. He never possesses Honda, and no-one is possessing Thief King Bakura, which is how we get a great scene where Yami Bakura gets to visit his past life in a tavern, with some nice subtle foreshadowing of how Yami Bakura is different from the Thief King.

6. High Priest Zorc Necrophades (Part 1)

In the manga, after being attacked by Bakura, Akhenaden is visited by his future self, the High Priest of Shadows, who is possessed by Zorc Necrophades' soul and goes by his name. High Priest Zorc then projects himself into the sky above Egypt and introduces himself to the Pharaoh and his friends before using his Memory Rewind ability to resurrect Bakura so that history goes back on its proper track. But in the anime, High Priest Zorc never appears. Akhenaden flashing back to how he created the Millennium Items is the only thing Bakura's attack causes, and the Time Rewind is used by Yami Bakura in an offscreen voice-over and image of an hourglass. This is especially baffling since the OP for the arc shows the scene of High Priest Zorc reversing time! I guess the writers never gave the animators the memo.

7. Early Confrontation with Yami Bakura

As noted before, Yami Bakura's shadow had followed Yugi and his friends into the Memory World in the manga. After High Priest Zorc reverses time, he appears before them in order to stop them from interfering again. This is where he reveals that he, Yami Bakura, is actually a piece of Zorc's soul possessing Thief King Bakura's, and where he produces a modern day Duel Disk and Duel Monsters cards to go up against Jonouchi in a short Duel. Jonouchi is spared from death only because the Memory World blacks out when the Pharaoh falls unconscious. In the anime, this confrontation doesn't happen, and the Memory World bafflingly keeps going after the Pharaoh's fall so that Honda can punch Thief King Bakura and then have Yami Bakura's shadow implanted in him when he's subsequently grabbed.

8. Seto's Reaction to the Pharaoh's Survival

Once again, a great moment for Seto is cut from the anime. What the Hell, Studio Gallop?

9. The Ultimate Shadow RPG

In the manga, once Thief King Bakura is defeated he turns into sand rather than just dying as does Priest Kalim, all while time freezes as Akhenaden steals the remaining Millennium Items, with Yami Bakura appearing before the Pharaoh and telling him that the Memory World is a game. It's then revealed that Yami Yugi and Yami Bakura have been playing a shadow RPG in a back room at Domino City Museum the whole time, with the Millennium Puzzle suspended over the board and projecting the Pharaoh's and Zorc's memories. It's a huge full circle moment calling back to the Monster World RPG arc that introduced Yami Bakura.

But as that arc wasn't in the anime, what we get there doesn't make much sense. In the anime only Thief King Bakura turns into sand and it's because Yami Bakura unpossessed him and goes up to the table rather than because he's dying (though he comes back an episode later, so what was even the point?), yet Yami Yugi can somehow exist up on the table and inside the Pharaoh character piece at the same time, which made sense in the manga but not here given the possession angle with Bakura. And since Domino City Museum isn't where this whole adventure started anymore, the table is just floating in the Shadow Realm instead.

10. High Priest Zorc Necrophades (Part 2)

In the Domino City Museum back room where the shadow RPG is being played, Yami Bakura is seated next to a coffin carrying Akhenaden's mummy. He explains that he brought it to represent his partner, High Priest Zorc, who is playing co-op with him. Their goal in the game is to resurrect the full soul of Zorc that was shattered along with the Puzzle, kill the Pharaoh, and discover his true name that can be used to bring Zorc back in the real world. In the anime, however, there is no mummy since Dark Priest Zorc isn't a character here and the table is in the Shadow Realm, so instead the stakes are changed so that history will be rewritten if Zorc wins the game, with the threat of it happening even affecting the real world.

11. The character of Hasan

In the manga, Bobasa is possessed by his own alter-ego, Hasan, once Zorc is resurrected. Hasan is revealed to be a spirit who left the afterlife at the Pharaoh's father's behest and bound itself to the Millennium Tablet, a feat made possible because the Pharaoh's father had used his soul to do so in a ritual as he was dying. In the end, he is also revealed to be Shadi. But in the anime, Hasan is, like Bobasa, just a fictional NPC who only exists within the world of the game. After he dies, Shadi comes in from the Millennium Puzzle and possesses him rather than having been him the whole time. So Shadi, Hasan and Bobasa are all totally separate characters in the anime, whereas in the manga they are all the same character.

12. The Resolution

In the manga, Yami Yugi and the Pharaoh game piece fully merge once he recovers and announces his name, Atem, which summons Horakhty who destroys Zorc Necrophades (which also kills Yami Bakura off-screen). However, Dark Priest Zorc and the Akhenaden character piece he is bound to still live, so Zorc's dark power is still active. While there is no more threat to the real world, Atem insists on staying to save the Memory World since it's made from his memories and he holds responsibility to its memory-replicated denizens, reinforcing the message that friendship can cross any boundary. But in the anime, the whole confrontation with Akhenaden happened before Zorc Necrophades was even unleashed, so Zorc's destruction marks the end of things even though it creates a whiplash when we still close on the scene between Atem and Seto, who was nowhere near the battle with Zorc.

13. Akhenaden's Death

In the aforementioned earlier confrontation with Akhenaden in the anime, Seto's character gets screwed over one last time. He fucking stabs Akhenaden as revenge for him killing Kisara, and Akhenaden then chooses to disintegrate his body so that his soul can possess his son. In the manga, we see how Seto's character has developed by him refusing to give in to the hatred he feels toward Akhenaden for killing Kisara, with him instead still trying to reason with him and break the darkness' hold on him. Akhenaden then commits suicide (implied to be one last move by Dark Priest Zorc whose memories are giving him life) by plunging into a fissure in the earth, his soul then possessing Seto. I get why events were moved around, since the battle with Zorc is more climactic and thus feels like a more traditional one to close on, but it misses the point of all the character work Takahashi was doing. Seto Kaiba was the first opponent of Yami Yugi's to get a two-parter rather than a single chapter and also the first to almost defeat the previous unflappable invincible hero, and the revelation of Atem and Seto as opponents was a huge part of the Battle City arc and progressing the overarching story further. And Akhenaden is both related to the Pharaoh by blood and the one responsible for the Millennium Items and the whole ensuing conflict. That's why this final confrontation holds more personal weight than the battle with Zorc, which is more plot-oriented. As with a lot of other things, the anime's writers just didn't seem to get it.

[magpiejay1234]

Yami Bakura in the manga reveals Domino Museum is own by regular Bakura's father, and the diorama was created by regular Bakura under Yami Bakura's control.

In the manga, the Shadow Game's location is in the museum, with the real corpse of Akhenaden, and the cast being in sarcophagi.

Atem doesn't wake up here, but it is inferred he wasn't aware of the sitution either way.

In the manga, the Memory World RPG is played with cards showcasing the ba gauges. The hourglass is still here, though there are three of them.

Akhenaden as the Dark Priest uses the title of Zorc, since in antiquity, the priest of a God is considered to be the God themselves. This is true for Zorc Necrophades as well, who is a pastiche of Seth.

In the manga, Bobasa becomes Hasan. In the manga, Hasan is a spirit sealed in the stone tablet by Atem's father. The gang later finds out the face of Hasan is actually Shadi.

In the manga, Yami Bakura leaves Destiny Board card in Atem's tomb as a calling card.

In the manga, much like in the animé, the Decks used in the Yami Bakura vs. Yugi is constructed from their imagination, so Yami Bakura became an unintentional ally, and gave both regular Yugi, and regular Bakura their strongest Decks.

The gang protect Atem with Duel Monsters, though only Yugi, and Jonouchi do this, even though Anzu, and Honda also have Duel Disks for sake of equality.

In the manga, the Egyptian Gods combine into Holactie without initially trying to stop Zorc (in the manga, Yami Bakura reveals diaroma is built on top hourglasses, so when it shatters, diaroma, and by proxy the game world starts collapsing).

Holactie reveals Atem's name also is the same as the spell to push back darkness.

In the manga, Zorc is defeated before Akhenaden, and Thief King Bakura doesn't revive after Kul Elna.

In the manga, Akhenaden sacrifices himself to possess Seto, leading to the Battle City confrontation.

In the confrontation, Blue-Eyes is shown with overtly feminine traits.

In the manga, the new dynasty established by Priest Seto has Mana taking Mahad's place, with Isis being part of the new priests.

(Isis's relationship with Mahad isn't an important part of the manga.)

In the manga, due to the effects of the Shadow Game, Akhenaden's mummy is split in half, now that Zorc has been seemingly defeated DSoD will obviously retcon this.)

In the manga, Ishtars also help the cast, but for the ceremonial duel, since the Memory World events happen in the Domino Museum instead. Otogi, who wasn't a part of the Memory World, joins in for Ceremonial Duel, but Kaiba Bros. don't, since in the conclusion of Battle City, they were busy with KaibaLand America instead.

The manga version of the Ceremonial Duel only contains Obelisk, and Slifer.

The manga ends with the line of this not being Atem's story, but rather Yugi's, though one of the final shots have Kaiba Bros. in the desert, implying they were watching from a distance.

****

There is also Transcend Game, but outside of the artwork, and the lore of Duel Links, there isn't much to discuss there.

With this, the original YGO manga is over. I will probably go over 5D's manga next, since GX manga is too long.

[the-pigeon-queen]

Yeah so thanks for coming to my TED talk

[joeys-red-eyed-dragon]

[Episode 208]

[ubel]

[yugioh-why-not]

Off topic, but talking about Yami’s. So I get Malik’s has nothing to do with his millennium item, but just pretending all the characters with one had a yami form. 

So the main differences include glowing eyes and/or crazy hair or different voices, so thats easy for Pegasus and Ishizu. But what would Shadi do? grow hair? I get he can have the other two things but the main thing people like pointing out is the hair differences, I mean would Bobasa be his yami side? Dunno just thinking about it, feel free to share if anyone’s got a design for him

[bakugouisabitch]

Have you read the yugioh manga? Is the season 5 done better in the manga?

hello anon. sorry for replying this late to this.

YES i’ve read the yugioh manga and this also includes millennium world (the part that became season 5) and to be honest with you..................................... it’s hard to pin it down as a yes or no answer because the main biggest issue I have with the season 5 anime was still present in the millennium world manga BUT there are a few more things that are actually better in the manga than in the anime imo. So if I have to give you a short answer it’s: yes. Imo the manga is done better.

Let me name a few things I prefer in the manga without trying to spoil you anything lmao

1- Thief King Bakura, in general. I fell in love with the character because of the manga. In the anime you never actually get to know him - it’s just his body but with the spirit of the ring literally possessing him, so the anime has basically no TKB (this is the main reason why it sucks lmao) and they really made him dirty in the anime. He literally says he doesn’t care abt revenging his village anymore and i’m like ??????? this is not TKB. In the manga, he really makes it a point to remind everyone how atrocious their doing was and he’s very loud and factual abt it. He spills the T. He’s punk as hell this is why i adore him and they robbed him off his best quality in the anime. This is character assassination and i do NOT stand with that. (But before you get all hopeful he still never gets the ending he deserves - not even in the manga so rip to that. we just can’t have nice things 💀💀💀💀💀)

2- The duels/dahas are better in the manga. More blood realistic. And there are no stupid golden duel disks needed to summon the Kas. i hated that sm in the anime. it really belittled the whole thing into a game once again. The ka comes from your soul. It’s part of you. That's why you die/hurt badly when it gets destroyed/attacked.

3- The dark priest/Aknadin/Zorc issue. Listen I hate that dude with my whole heart but at least in the manga, you get to see him as being that dark priest/Zorc aka the main monster/satan of the story. and you also see his mummy in the modern world at the museum and it explains the whole deal much better. The anime just fucking confused me. It confuses everyone and it makes you literally believe that everything is possible atp.

4- Diabound. listen,, liSTEN,,,, IT IS MY FAVOURITE MONSTER . In the anime it’s literally only belittled into a monster who steals powers like???? the first thing we see of it is that it somehow stole the Blue Eyes’ power from Seto before we meet it in millennium world and only thanks to this does he get to win against obelisk which no ! !!! N.O. The whole deal of diabound is that it’s so fucking powerful on its own all the priests are left open-mouthed. it confronted a God. and won. WITHOUT stealing anyone’s power (at the beginning). It is majestic and beautiful. and no one could have believed that just a simple thief happened to have such a powerful ka. A GOD KA. yes. they call it a demon and tkb corrects them and tells him this is a spirit ka. A fucking GOD. born from the whole rage tkb developed for the palace ppl over the years while growing up and making a god like angelic ka blossom from it all!!! in the anime none of it is explained. they belittled it into just some monster that kinda makes the impression to be pretty weak if it wasn’t for its ability to steal other monster’s powers, stripping it of all its power and fucking majesty. And the shitty animation ruined him too. (yes i am particularly bitter over what they did to diabound!!!)

Everything is in general better explained and there are no useless plot distractions like Honda becoming evil????? The dark soldiers/army of tkb??????? Diabound stealing BEWD’s power????? Bobasa??????? like the whole deal of Bobasa is just wrong because of him being the most racist caricature we have in ygo but in the anime, he also contributes nothing to the plot??? (in the manga at least he serves some more to the plot like he weights the hearts of Yugi & co. in the beginning before letting them enter into the memory world - where we also have Ryou sobbing and running away because his soul didn’t get access :((( but it’s still better than not including Ryou at all because yeah i guess we are the anime and Ryou never existed in the anime) Other things that bug me: TKB coming back to life after dying for good with a piece of Seto’s soul??????? SETO in the millennium world?????? Listen, i am not saying these things ruined millennium world but they made it all the more confusing and erased “plot-space” that could have been filled with fix-its for what they did in the manga, that, per see, was never that good to begin with. But still better than the mess that was the anime. 

A few things I can name that they definitely did better in the anime than in the manga is

1- Priest Set, he’s not a megalomaniac classist asshole in the anime and doesn’t torture ppl for funsies

2- Kisara, in the anime she has a personality. I’m not even sure if she utters a word in the manga. Poor girl.

Yeah overall millennium world is a fucking mess and i hate it like the only reason i am attached to it is cause we have tkb (which happens to be my favourite character) and we see him in all his greatness and his tragic backstory!!! but he was never treated as an actual character, only as a villain - he never got the justice he deserved as a character so, sorry for making this all abt bakura lmao but yeah, like i said before, the biggest issue i have with millennium world is only better explained in the manga, but it’s never fixed. So I‘d say the manga is better in a story-explanation-pov. But it still has the same shitty ending. 

Oh and the manga is better cause you don’t have to endure the trauma that is the shitty animation in season 5. Totally not worth it.  

[synthient]

So over the course of ygo's run, Shadi has been:

A dude. Just some dude. Alive. Has entirely personal and human motivations. Rides airplanes. The concept behind him doesn't really go any deeper than "what if someone other than Yugi had a millennium item :0"

A magic omniscient ghost

Zorc's good counterpart. Who pretended to be a dude, and a ghost, and also Bobasa for some unfathomable reason

The role of the aliens in a plot stolen from a mediocre 1950s sci fi novel

[stealtharchaeologist]

OH MY GOD YOU FOUND IT. YOU FOUND THE SCENE.

This is THE SCENE that made me start liking Ryou Bakura. LET ME EXPLAIN

Prior to playing The Falsebound Kingdom, I was only familiar with Ryou from the first couple of seasons of the English anime (yes, the 4Kids dub), and a tiny, TINY bit of the manga (when he runs crying after failing Bobasa's test). My favorite character was Yami Bakura, and all I knew of Ryou was, basically, he was a pathetic, timid coward whose only purpose was to stand in YB's way. I found him annoying, basically.

This was the mid-aughts, when the manga wasn't even finished yet! I was like, 11 or 12, just discovering fandom on the internet, and had found out that the final arc of YGO was taking place in ANCIENT EGYPT! I was SO excited! So I had found this incredibly sketchy scanlation site and every week, when a new chapter came out, I would sit there for like a half hour as the images loaded on our incredibly awful dial-up connection.

Yami Bakura WAS my favorite character. But I was discovering Thief King Bakura and falling head over heels for him. I'm not sure that I had admitted I liked TKB more yet, but I was there. (I also, at the time, was discovering the Queen's Thief series and Jing: King of Bandits, and therefore decided that I very much liked fictional thieves in general.)

So I somehow procured a copy of The Falsebound Kingdom and was playing it, Yugi version first because I have always hated Kaiba, and we finally find Ryou, and I'm like *rolls eyes* okay, whatever, and then he says all this. And I'm like "...???" And he SUCCEEDS. And I'm like "?!?!?!"

Wait, so Ryou can be a badass thief, too?!

And as I continue playing the game, Ryou proves himself to me. He ends up being my strongest duelist besides Yami, and the fastest by far. My entire strategy started to revolve around sending the majority of my army through the middle of the battlefield to take the enemy head-on, while Ryou, with his incredible speed, ran around the edges and started attacking the enemy fortress from the back. Then, by the time Yami and the rest got there, the leader was so weak that they couldn't stand up to Yami at all.

All along, I am becoming more and more fond of Ryou.

Then the Big Bad of the game decides to mind control Joey, Tea, and Ryou. And I'm like, "Ohoho, Yami Bakura isn't going to like that."

It's all very dramatic with Yami (or maybe little Yugi?) rescuing Tea, and Mai saving Joey, and we finally find Ryou again but it's not him. I was right, Yami Bakura was displeased. However, he saw the game we were all playing and decided he wanted to sow some chaos.

Cue the hardest goddamned level in the game.

Mind, up until this point, I had beaten every level in one or two attempts, three at the most when I was being dumb about something. But trying to catch up with Yami Bakura and defeat him before he burned our castle to the ground (with everyone inside) was insane. I probably went through 20+ attempts, pulling my hair out, just trying to find a single monster that was fast enough to get to our castle first.

I finally realized that the key... was Ryou. It was his monsters that were so fast. They were the only ones who stood a chance.

Even with Ryou's best monster, Ansatsu, leading Yami's party, it took like three attempts to catch Yami Bakura. But boy, when I caught him, I absolutely crushed him with Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl and I loved it.

Ryou wakes up, and says meekly that he hopes he didn't cause too much trouble. Yami replies, "We're just glad to have you back." I'm like, damn straight. At that moment, if I never saw Yami Bakura again, I would be happy.

That game literally flipped how I felt about Ryou Bakura and Yami Bakura. That game is THE reason I like Ryou as much as I do. From that moment on, I paid more attention to him and found all his little charms, how incredibly brave and loyal he is, and how goddamned weird he is, too.

... all because he's a little bit like Thief King Bakura. 🥰

[yugiohmangaoutofcontext]

[deathandnonexistentialdread]

Hi Bobasa!

[millennium-ring-to-rule-them-all]

Bobasa is the absolute weirdest character. And he's ten times weirder in the manga.

In the tankobon version, his flesh is indented to fit the Millennium Items. Like seriously.

And then we get the bunkobon version, and Bobasa is redrawn to look like he has some armor. It's ridiculous. I don't know, Bobasa is still weird. Maybe a bit less creepy with the redraw, but still weird as hell.

Just look at everyone's reactions. In both versions, the YGO gang is like WTF...!

[dmbakura]

Opinion on the YGO characters Shadi and Bobasa?

shadi is just weird as hell and stirs shit up for no reason. he seems to go about achieving his goals in this ruthless methodical way while making it clear he wants to traumatize as many people as possible ie tormenting yugi’s group, intentionally leading malik to believe atem killed his dad, giving the m. eye to pegasus, etc. his actions in dsod make him even more nonsensical (youre telling me his spirit never came back to tell aigami and the other kids to chill out? you shitting me with that?)

i just dont understand shadi. the series seems to make him out as this benevolent source of guidance when literally all of his actions suggest hes anything BUT that. 

bobosa i dont have much of an opinion on, he’s just kinda there. but he made ryou cry and i Cannot Forgive That

[the-pigeon-queen]

And then it worked

I was reading Millennium World and thought ‘wow what if Bobasa wasn’t drawn in the worst possible way?’ Cause in the manga he’s not a bad character! He’s just Shadi in disguise, so he just stands in the background and makes serious faces.

He also became the most butchered character in the anime because he shouldn’t have existed in the anime