#bro isn't even an adult he's like 16-19

[theonenbwithadisconcertinggrin]

Yknow I'm really starting to understand how much of a plague "(insert character) x reader" is on every tag

[nekropsii]

…I swear to God, why have like half the Beforan players tried to bone someone significantly younger than them??? Probably because the author’s a creep who got a kick out of it, but still, between what was just discussed with Rufioh, Aranea trying to hit on Jake, Cronus trying to bone his dancestor (jesus fuck) and Meenah dating a physically 13-year-old Vriska… that’s a THIRD of the dancestors? And those are just the four I’m aware of, I would be very disappointed but not at all surprised if there was a fifth.

Honestly, adults having inappropriate relationships with children is just a heavily recurring theme in Homestuck... It's not really all that surprising when you take a step back. Doc Scratch, Hussie's own self insert, Bro Strider... They're all much older than the Alpha Trolls are, and are creepy towards the Betas in some way.

Further discussion going under the cut.

Content Warning: Discussion of Sexual Assault, Harassment, and Pedophilia.

... Man, I'm having to write about this topic a lot lately, aren't I? This isn't even close to the only ask left in my inbox about something adjacent to this. It's kind of... Flattering, in the weirdest way possible? I don't know, I'm often approached for my opinions on some of the much more serious and dark aspects of Homestuck. Things that people don't really know, or talk about, or address- like the racism issues, Dave's CSA, et cetera. It's not really prestigious, I don't think, but it does require a level of trust in maturity and literacy. I appreciate it.

Anyways, this is mostly going to be me adding to and even debunking your ask here. I think this subject both deserves and requires specificity. It's an extremely emotionally charged topic, so peoples imaginations tend to get a little... Carried away, when they don't know the full extent to what's happening. Considering how it's not easy to term search things said by most of the Alpha Trolls, and some people really just do not want to/cannot interact with things relating to Child Harm and Abuse... There's bound to be both a lack of information and an excess of misinformation. It's understandable, but... Deeply annoying for me in particular. Lol.

Let's do this.

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The inclusion of Rufioh in this is both correct and based on some of my own posting on the matter. Rufioh was hitting on Aradiabot, who is 13, because she reminded him of Damara... Specifically remarking upon how she's "just like the real thing". Charming...

Here's where I'm going to supply a debunk: Aranea did not try to hit on Jake, and he is not significantly younger than her. That's a pretty ugly misconception. She's 19, and he is 16. She had zero romantic or sexual feelings towards Jake. Yes, she tried to kiss him once... Because she knew that he was attracted to her and assumed he'd appreciate her making a move on him. This was part of her little scheme to make him Hope-splode. She never did actually kiss him, and there was genuinely no consent violations involved in the situation- he told her to stop before she could, and she did. It was just a misunderstanding. It happens. If you're still put off by that age gap, that's fair and entirely respectable, but that's not "significantly younger", and the situation wasn't really objectively creepy.

... Cronus is... Fucking gross. His whole gimmick is that he is "The Worst Character in Homestuck", and boy does he succeed at it. He won that title. Earned it. Absolutely flying colors. He tried to "get with" Karkat, Tavros, and Eridan. By which I mean he stalked Karkat all the way to his house and then tried to break into it, got really handsy with Tavros in the middle of a crowd, and... Sexually assaulted Eridan- his own flesh and blood!- also in the middle of a crowd. All of these kids are 13 years old, and his main character trait is "Sexual Assault + Harassment". No one's free. Not even literal children! Cronus counts as a full-blown Pedophile, by the way!! There's your fun fact for the day.

Then there's Meenah, who had her whole thing with (Vriska), who was 13. Not just physically, but mentally, too. She was just 13. That was a whole arc, so it doesn't really need much elaborating upon, I hope.

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That's... Just about it, I think? That's all I remember, anyway, as far as the Alpha Troll Age Gap Weirdness goes. So... Only 3 of them are really problems in that respect, which is 1/4th of the cast. Still an upsetting amount, but not... As bad as 1/3rd, as far as optics goes.

In full honesty, it's kind of funny to me how the Alpha Trolls who have overtly sexual theming are... Pretty normal about kids. Damara's nice to them and nobody else, we've got zero reason to suspect Mituna of anything, and Porrim's just chilling. It's accurate, if anything.

Hopefully this has been fun and/or informative. Have a lovely day.

[whataphantasia]

oog i keep forgetting to post here,,, i did a really big oc x canon promptlist on my alt twitter acc like, last year, and i like the stuff i did for it so im posting it here :3

day 1: dancing

needed to draw this for the fic where they dance at prom and a destroyed universe respectively ^_^

day 2: stargazing. the thumbnail image at the top :D

day 3: phone call

day 4: (not so) sneaky glances

ely sits inbetween these two in class. they have to deal with them staring daggers at each other. very stressful sorry ely </3 here's the doodle from like 2019 that made me wanna draw this

also like there's this moment in the fic where eadr is watching mysterious mysteries together and..... HSHSBDHSHDGDHDHS

day 5: "i'm proud of you"

THESE TWO NEED VALIDATION SO BAD RAGHHH don't @ me about the lighting on zim IK ITS REVERSED,,,

day 6: music/playlist. i didn't make any art for this but i did show off my playlists for zaeadr :D i will not elaborate here bc I Don't Feel Like It.

day 7: whispers

this is actually a redraw... :3c specieswap eadr! so cute :)

day 8: closeness

ok i didnt actually make any new art for this i just posted two old ones from 2021 LOL

day 9: protectiveness (CW blood)

dib and zim r dangerous to have as love interests come on ely 😔

day 10: "how was your day" (CW blood as well)

ely needs to tell him to stop tracking blood into the house.....

day 11: one wish

WOW something NOT ely related?! anyways ana and ad's whole love arc is kinda like... they both have responsibilities and unrequited feelings. moreso than my other oc x canon pairings. i think them a lot

day 12: matching accessories

cove jumpscare. IDK I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE MATCHING KEYCHAINS HE BUYS FOR MC... this is reiner btw i was playing as xim in my like 3rd playthrough >_< xe's fond of spoiling him with gifts, more than my other mcs...

day 13: nightmare

it took me 13 days to break and make sans x shelby art SJWKDJWJ anyway. shelby doesn't meet him pre-corruption but whatever i think they're cute

day 14: makeup

I HATE THIS DRAWING RAAAA but ely likes asking to do his nails ^_^ even tho theyre terrible at it but he doesnt mind :3c

day 15: "you are my happiness"

ok uhh my bad this isn't oc x canon LOL. but... erfi and ana... have a lot of angst like halfway/early in their arc bc erfi sees her as a beacon of light/savior, especially due to her current relationship with the ppl in her life.................... they get better dw!!! ad goes through a similar arc so i think that was how i tied it into the oc x canon promptlist LMAO

day 16: indirect kiss

SODA BOTTLE... IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW. i've talked about this scene in the fic NON STOP to my close friends.... its when dib realizes he has a crush on ely...... i drew this like in 2021 SHWJSJW

day 17: morning cuddles

SORRY i just think it's a super funny possibility that zim becomes domestic. idc if it's out of character thats why its funny U_U!!

oh and uhm yea i have a fankid 4 these guys... have i talked abt her... i dont think i have... but ive drawn her a lot... maybe ill post more art abt her later...

day 18: photoshoot

uhhhmmm im gonna crop this for my tumblr.... yea.... anyways i love the possibility that when they're adults they become super popular, like in dib's wonderful life of doom X)

day 19: voicemail. THAT ONE THING I POSTED!! yes it was a shelby x error thing. i was listening to pick up the phone by fir at the time, which like, its not the errorshelby dynamic at all they're not toxic, but. the vibes... in the fic after shelby leaves the anti void he has a massive crisis... thats what the drawing is...

day 20: "what happened to you"

BRO I HAVE SO MANY IMAGES RELATED TO THIS FOR ANA AND ADAMAÏ... the images explain everything idc read them instead

day 22/23: hand made gift, late night drive

ummmm sooooo theres this chapter in the fic where they go to an echo flower field on the surface at night........ this is that.... DIES

that last one i never posted on twitter :0c and uhm thats all i did of the 30 day promptlist! it was fun! i got to draw so much... yay :3 thats all. explodes in embarrassment

[ironic-the-hedgehog]

hello! we are a traumagenic system of many. literally do not give a shit about syscourse anymore. make of that what you will, interact or don't, we don't care as long as you're not a piece of shit about it

we typically DO remember people we interact with frequently (friends, mutuals, etc.)!

here's who you'll probably hear from the most often (if you're not sure who's fronting, he/they pronouns are acceptable)

gendered terms guide: masculine (boy, man, brother, boyfriend, etc.) / feminine (girl, woman, sister, girlfriend, etc.) / neutral (enby, enban, sibling, partner, etc.) / masc-neutral (guy/dude/bro/etc. or neutral terms)

🦔 Shadow (host) - 23 years old - he/him (is nonbinary but please no they/them) - prefers masc terms - gayest creature in the multiverse - has probably existed for longer than some of our followers have even been alive

🌭 Sonic - 22 years old - he/him - prefers masc terms - bi guy ready to cry - autism and ADHD manifest more strongly in him than in most others, says weird shit but means well

🍄 Vince - adult - he/him - prefers masc terms - quiet until he isn't (that makes sense i promise)

💿 Miku - she/her - prefers fem terms - late teen / young adult - polyam lesbian - fem tomboy (her own words) - "aw what a cute little guy! oh she's a little fucked up actually" type vibes

🟣 Donatello (Donnie) - he/him or ve/vim/vex/vexes/vexself - prefers masc terms - 19 - knows exactly what his orientation is but that's for him to know and for you to remain ignorant about - mostly types in purple text - almost always co-fronting with Leon

🔵 Leonardo (any variation is fine, but usually goes by Leon) - he/him - prefers masc terms - 19 - in a constant battle with Shadow for the title of gayest creature alive - mostly types in blue text - almost always co-fronting with Donnie

🟠 Michelangelo (Mikey or any other nickname) - he/him, they/them, xe/xem, literally any pronouns - prefers masc or masc-neutral terms - 16? - [high pitched squealing noise] - mostly types in orange text

why do you have so many introjects? haha hyperfixation go brrr 🤙

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[lord-pigeon]

So replaying GE2 and if you kinda ignore the anime high school-esque vibe, it actually grew on me quite a bit. Like, if I had to say what each strength of the GEs were, it'd probably be that GE1 has the most solid plot and pacing, GE2 has the best character development, and GE3 has the best immediate cast. For GE3, when I say immediate cast, I refer to the Protag, Phym, Ein, and Hugo. It's a super cute family, albeit a little bit at the cost of everyone else. But goddam if I'm not fucking attached to the hip to Phym and Hugo cause they did damn well with them. Then there's Code Vein, which is uh, certainly something. More below cause I'm just rambling and don't wanna clog dashes.

GE2 has a gigantic cast since it combos GE2 and GE1's casts, but I think it does really well for a sequel. If you want a plot that isn't pulled out of its ass probably not the best GE, but I really love the dynamics everyone has with each other. GE2's main squad feels both very human, but also very tropey, which is a funny thing to say, but hey if it works. Ciel really does seem like a sheltered, unaccustomed 16-year old girl, and Gil a traumatized 22-year old adult, and its obvious that a naive, low self-esteemed 19-year old isn't gonna get along with the above adult at first. I mention the ages cause it actually seems like it plays a bit of a role, that everyone on the team is so dispersed between 16-22.

In GE1 you had Kota and Alisa, basically the same age and the other two of the Three Amigos. Everyone else was an adult and kinda babysat, with the exception of Soma, but even then, Soma was a whole ass bucket of worms. So it was kinda allowed to focus more on plot and Soma's background cause let's be honest, he's the real protagonist of GE1 until you get to Ren. So there was always a bit of a power imbalance cast-wise. In GE2, it kinda shows that natural conflict that comes with the imbalance, and some of the personal issues that the cast deals with. Maybe it's because I'm bias since I like character studies more than overarching plots, but it's nice seeing development over time.

GE3 got bullied a bit by making all the character development for the rest of the cast happen at the ass end of the game behind about 100+ missions. Still happened, but unless you were an immediate cast member, you weren't relevant until after the final first arc fight. I personally really liked it cause again, I felt it made sense with how tight-knit the Pennyworths are and obvious parents are obvious, but it's a bit of a shock after the other two's more ensembles.

Which brings me to a wild card point of Holy Shit after GE2 and GE3 I really just can't play Code Vein anymore. Like I love the tragedy of the Bad Endings, but getting through it just is like Eh. I feel Code Vein was really burdened by the pairings they set up, platonic or romantic in nature. GE1/2 had their big casts, where everyone had a role or was important in some manner, even if they were a joke character like Emil, and interacted a lot with other characters. Though GE3 was more grounded, characters still had major interactions and connections, particularly with Phym as the catalyst.

Code Vein just feels like it was burdened because each character Had to be closest to whoever had the Vestige that level. Probably for uwu be sad points, but it is so jarring replaying it. The Io/Protagonist shipping is so thick it actually is painful if you are just bored by her, or already headpatted her in a previous run. The protagonist is allowed to get close to other characters, but there's always seems to be a wall of sorts, usually because of Io. So the connects that were made in GE aren't really as prevalent in Code Vein and it just feels stilted. The closest character is maybe Louis, but even then, he kinda falls off in importance in the middle of the game before coming back for the end. Inb4 this turns into Just Trust My Vibes Bro but the feeling between cast members is almost more cold? Yakumo is warm in the beginning but after the whole arc he has he kinda just stops being relevant. Eva and Jack are their whole thing that, I'll be honest, just seemed shoved in there like an overly-important sidequest. I think the best was Nikola and Mia, since Nikola was established a critical part of her character from the very second she showed up. Ironically, she remained the warmest in terms of relationships.

I dunno, conclusion is that jfc I want someone to rewrite Code Vein some to make it more like the vibes I got from GE cause they're clearly trying to make it happen, but it didn't work out. Maybe I want more character-study games like GE2 or the Tales franchise. Maybe I just want more classic fuckin JRPGs because I find them fun. Waaaah