#btw do not think for one second that i'm saying this as a swifty. no i want to see her and the roys tear each other apart

[tomwambsgans]

some sick and twisted part of me wants to read a succession fic that features taylor swift as a character. i just know she'd fit right in

[everythingrevealedpod]

hullo!

Ive just listened to the latest ep of the pod, it was wonderful!! Halla's point on how parasocialiaty is defined by what it lacks, to be very insightful , ive always had a slight issue with how parasocial relationships r discussed in scholarship and the rapidly changing nature of media does not help.

when u guys were talking about how different artists develop different styles of parasocial relationships with their fans, like how the nature of a harries relationship with harry styles is in a way different from the parasocial relationship we have with matty or the relationships swifties have with taylor. And how artist actively foster these relationships so in a way they are a two-way street (please lmk if I'm misunderstanding ur points, cause I'm listening to the pod at work so I may miss some key info),

Anyway, this reminded me of a convo I had with a prof of mine, we were talking about the narrative and meta-narratives that artists (specifically singer-songwriters) present to the public (cause all famous people r presenting a narrative that's y they're famous)

I think this narrative/ meta-narrative really affects the establishment and nature of the artist/ audience parasocial relationship. I think that for an artist to be "stan-able" they must present a meta-narrative, so there is,, something MORE for the fans to know about them. For example, Ed Sheeran and Coldplay have huge fanbases and can play arenas but don't really have stans because they only present a narrative (i.e. the music/ album). Whereas artists like Harry styles and most kpop groups actively foster a parasocial relationship by presenting a narrative (i.e. the music/ album) then a meta-narrative, for harry this would be his vague allusions to queerness, for kpop groups this would be the slow reveal of their real personalities (cause a lot of kpop groups r given explicit "roles" by their management like "the cool one" "the childish one" "the leader" etc). This meta-narrative allows for dedicated fans to "know" the artist better than fan who "just" listen to the songs. Personally, i think matty presents a third kind of "post-meta- narrative" so his narrative is the album then his meta-narrative is the onstage/in-interview performance art then his post-meta-narrative is his reflection on the performance art. I think the main difference between artists who have a meta-narrative and artists who have a post-meta-narrative is that we don't know what harry styles the person thinks about "harry styles" the performance, whereas id argue that we know what matty the person thinks about "matty healy" the performance.

I dont have a super cohesive point to end on but I do think that matty presenting a post-meta-narrative gets lost in translation when the 1975 gets exposed to wider audiences (like the swiftes) who take the red-pilled, toxic masculinity, meta-narrative Matty presents, as the end all be all.

anyways, i LOVE the pod, i hope yall keep it up and have fun doing it!!!

first off OMG HI IM JUST SEEING THIS SORRY IF YOU SENT IT A WHILE BACK! It’s Halla btw lmao. seconddddd, okay that’s a very good point you’re making about Stan-able celebrities, so to speak. Because, as we were talking, in the back of my head, I was thinking about my second favorite artist, Father John Misty, whose music is lowkey similar to the 1975 in a lot of ways. And it’s definitely shaped me as a person a lot. He’s been my top artist on Spotify wrapped stats for years. HOWEVERRR, I don’t have the same relationship to him/ his art as Matty and the 1975. I think it’s precisely because of the meta-narrative that you’re pointing to!

perhaps that’s part of what Matty has in mind when he says “feeling personally addressed.” Even little things like referencing their own earlier discography or tongue-in-cheek jokes about lyrics. “You can’t figure out a heart you were lyin’” “it’s just like I’ve lost my head.” Not to mention Notes tracks that have samples of ABIIOR in the back/ signaling the end of Music For Cars era etc. all of those things feel like building a narrative that the fan can participate in, and is likely to make you more immersed in the music and the artist. So yeah 100% I think this is a really great thought and if you don’t mind us referencing it on the next ep (it’s gonna be a part 2 of this conversation but more centered around consumerism in fan culture) I’d love to bring it up with Zoe!

[skittleswrapper]

Quick Voice Claims for my OCS!!!!! ((LONG POST))

As well as some actors I would want to play some of my live-action OCS. I'll attach images of the characters so you guys can see if these sound right.

Belial (Hellaverse) - Chappell Roan

The birdie in the picture above is Belial btw <3 Chappell's voice just feels right whenever I think of Belial. Totally could see Belial singing Hot To Go.

Miss Twister (Sonic The Hedgehog) - Lzzy Hale

I think it's pretty clear that the girlie in the image above is supposed to be from STH, but just to make it clear. Maybe it wouldn't really make sense to others, but when I heard Halestorm's cover of Bad Romance, something just clicked in my brain.

Winter *LIVE ACTION* (General OC, used in Marvel, X-Men, also kind of an online-sona, occasionally DC, even sometimes the PPG!) - Liv Pearsall

I don't have much to say on this one... It just feels right to me. Winter was my first OC and she certainly won't be the last. Her original usage was as a Marvel OC, and now she's kind of my whole online image.

Asher (Trolls) - Taylor Swift

Ok, first of all, I love Taylor Swift! I'm not a crazy Swiftie, but I do love her music and I'm surprised she hasn't been in any Trolls movies already. Considering the target audience, the kind of movies the Trolls movies are, and they had CAMILA CABELLO in the most recent one! I just feel Taylor's voice would be fitting for Asher.

Love (Inside Out) - P!nk

PRETTY PRETTY PLEAAAAAAAASE DON'T YOU EVER EVER FEEEEEEEEEEEL LIKE YOU'RE LESS THAN, FUCKING PERFECT- PRETTY PRETTY PLEAAAAAAAAASE IF YOU EVER EVER FEEEEEEEEEEEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOOOOOOTHING, YOU'RE FUCKIN PERFECT, TO ME <3

Ringmaster *LIVE ACTION* (DC) - Caroline Carr (tho for an animated voice claim I'd go with Pinkie Pie)

((sorry for the rlly bad quality lmao)) SHOUTOUT TO CAROLINE CARR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Caroline Carr for a live-action ringmaster isn't really a voice claim, but Ringmaster is kinda like Caroline Carr (appearance-wise) with Pinkie Pie's voice.

I WILL MAKE A SECOND PART TO THIS POST BTW!!!! and do not steal any of these OCS, they're all mine and mine only, If you wanna draw them, you may ask permission first, but don't pass them off as your own. I didn't steal any designs to create my OCS, either.

[xcleanx]

I totally agree with you though, don't listen to that anon. I've been a swiftie for so many years and honestly, I will always love her music, but I just don't like her as a person anymore... There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a fan and also being able to criticize her for her actions. I feel like some swifties are just... brainless. The dumbest fandom ever, me thinks. I'm not talking about every person who's a swiftie but most of them at least. Like how can you not see that what she's doing is... wrong on so many levels. Ugh. It makes me feel sick. Take care and don't worry about what they say, you have every right to have your own opinion, I'm sending hugs xx

i’m so happy there’s more and more people who get it. like it’s not easy for me to say all these things because i’d looked up to her since 2015 and she definitely shaped me as a person i am today. she used to be the most amazing human to me and i was crying so hard when i succeded in getting the tickets and knew i would see my biggest idol for the first time ever and i’m still so grateful for this opportunity, i never want to act like i’m not. but she’s not the person i look up to anymore and there’s nothing wrong with that. she can’t even post a story about palestine on her instagram, not even mentioning speaking up but she was the first one to speak up about the dumb three second lasting joke on netflix about her. and her suing a 21 year old student just because he posts facts that are available worldwide is so off?? like girl you’ve become nothing but a selfish ignorant bitch???? i can call myself a fan but only of her music. and thank you so much for reaching out btw, have a lovely sunday🫶🏻