#but nothing for rhae and laenor’s (harwin’s) kids?

[daenerysies]

“He’s always angry, but we haven’t done anything.”

“…but I have a crooked finger, just like Mama!”

“We were born here. Mama is our mother.”

“I do not wish to be different.” “Nor do I.”

“So let us be good sons and please those who love us, so they may forget what we lack.”

I’m never going to recover from this. Once again scenes were removed that would add to both boys characterizations, and we all know why. The scenes would make the audience realize how Aemond’s ‘I’m being bullied for not having a dragon :( I’m the real victim!’ storyline so fallible and easy to shatter in universe because it’s a completely normal occurrence for Targaryen’s. Aemond is not the first child to not have a dragon by the age of ten, the original conqueror’s, Baelon, Alyssa, Rhaenys, Laena, Viserys, Daemon, Aegon II, Helaena, etc. all claimed young or fully grown dragons somewhere between the ages of 11-18.

The only character that had the potential to be marketed as his biggest bully is his brother. They’re never going to convince me (and many others) that it was Rhaenyra’s sons who would ever go after another child for their lack of a dragon, especially given that they were almost surely taught that hatching a cradle egg is but one way for a Targaryen to have a dragon. Aemond felt lesser than his nephews due to the way Alicent was parenting him. She led him to believe that his nephews were bastards, that due to their blood they were beneath him, and this is what led to his inferiority complex. It makes more sense than the crock of shit the show runners decided to include in the show.

Rhaenyra and her sons were subjected to actual abuse and bigotry over the timeskip due to their gender and their blood, respectively. It very much makes me sick how they’re being treated by not only the show runners, but a decent portion of the audience as well. Bastardphobia is not cool or edgy. Looking down on someone because their parents weren’t married is vile. It falls into the same category as believing in blood supremacy. It’s 2024. Do better.

Jace and Luke will forever be Mama’s boys and are never beating the best brothers/sons allegations.

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[yourlocalnetizen]

How much dragon blood does each Targaryen have?

Aerion (100%) + Valaena (50%) = Visenya, Aegon, Rhaenys (75%)

Aerion is presumably full Targaryen making him 100% and Valaena was said to have a Targ mother making her 50%.

Aegon (75%) + Rhaenys (75%) = Aenys (75%)

Aegon (75%) + Visenya (75%) = Maegor (75%)

If Aenys was Aegon's son, which is the most likely scenario, than he's 75%. If he isn't, he'd be 37.5% but I'll consider him legitimate since Aegon clearly did.

If Maegor had a father at all and wasn't conceived through magic, it couldn't be anyone but Aegon.

Aenys (75%) + Alyssa (12.5%) = Rhaena, Aegon, Viserys, Jaehaerys, Alysanne (43.75%)

Alyssa was likely 12.5% Targaryen because we know her mum was a Westeroi lady of House Massay, who were a Fist Men house, and if we assume her assume her father Aethan was Aegon, Visenya, & Rhaenys's first cousin and the son of half-Targaryen Valaena's brother, he would be 25% Targ, making Alyssa 12.5%.

Aegon (43.75%) + Rhaena (43.75%) = Aerea, Rhaella (43.75%)

Jaehaerys (43.75%) + Alysanne (43.75%) = Aemon, Baelon, Alyssa, Maegelle, Vaegon, Daella, Saera, Viserra, Gael (43.75%)

Everything looks self explanatory here but as you can see, I'm not listing children who died as adolescents.

Aemon (43.75%) + Jocelyn (6.25% or 12.5%) = Rhaenys (25% or 28.125%)

Baelon (43.75%) + Alyssa (43.75%) = Viserys, Daemon (43.75%)

The reason for the confusion on Jocelyn & Rhaenys is Orys Baratheon, who was rumored to be Aerion's bastard son and Jaehaerys I apparently believed in this theory but it's not completely confirmed.

However, if Orys is indeed half-Targ, then Rogar, Jocelyn's father and Orys's grandson would be 12.5% Targaryen like his wife Alyssa.

Rhaenys (25% or 28.125%) + Corlys (6.25%) = Laena, Laenor (15.625% or 17.1875%)

Viserys (43.75%) + Aemma (21.875%) = Rhaenyra (32.8125%)

Viserys (43.75%) + Alicent (0%) = Aegon, Helaena, Aemond, Daeron (21.875%)

(If your wondering why I added Rhaenys's kids but not any other female Targaryen's kids, it's because hers were Dragonriders meaning Laena and Laenor were basically Targs without having the last name Targaryen.)

Since Corlys is the son of Daemon Velaryon, who is the brother of presumably 12.5% Targaryen Alyssa Velaryon and it's unlikely Corlys's mother was the blood of the dragon herself due to how little houses had it at the time, I think Corlys is most likely 6.25% Targ.

Rhaenyra (32.8125%) + Harwin (0%) = Jacaerys, Lucerys, Joffrey (16.4%)

Rhaenyra (32.8125%) + Daemon (43.75%) = Aegon, Viserys (38.275%)

Daemon (43.75%) + Laena (15.625% or 17.1875%) = Baela, Rhaena (29.6875% or 30.46875%)

Aegon (21.875%) + Helaena (21.875%) = Jaehaerys, Jaehaera, Maelor (21.875%)

If Rhaenyra's Velaryon boys were Leanor's bio sons the numbers would have been different obviously but who were they trying to fool?

Aegon (38.275%) + Daenaera (?%) = Daeron, Baelor, Daena, Rhaena, Elaena (a little over 19.1375%)

Viserys (38.275%) + Larra Rogare (0%) = Aegon, Aemon, Naerys (19.1375%)

We don't know how much dragon blood Daenaera had exactly but it certainly wasn't a lot given she was from one of the lesser branches of the Velaryon family and her mother being from a lesser Crownlands family, was unlikely to have any Targ blood herself.

As for Larra Rogare, she was indeed Valyrian. However, most Valyrians aren't dragonlords and it's unlikely Larra's family had dragon blood as it would have at least been implied it she did.

Aegon (19.1375%) + Naerys (19.1375%) = Daeron, Daenerys (19.1375%)

Nothing much to say here and even if Daeron was father by Aemon, as unlikely as it is, he would still have the same amount of Targ blood.

Daeron (19.1375%) + Myriah (0%) = Baelor, Aerys, Rhaegel, Maekar (9.56875%)

Self explanatory.

Baelor (9.56875%) + Jena (0%) = Valarr, Matarys (4.784375%)

Rhaegel (9.56875%) + Alys (0%) = Aelor, Aelora, Daenora (4.784375%)

Maekar (9.56875%) + Dyanna (0%) = Daeron, Aerion, Daella, Aegon, Rhae (4.784375%)

While Queen Aelinor Penrose was a Targaryen cousin, nothing similar has been said on Jena Dondarrion, Alys Arryn, & Dyanna Dayne.

Daeron (4.784375%) + Kiera (0%) = Vaella (2.3921%)

Aerion (4.784375%) + Daenora (4.784375%) = Maegor (4.784375%)

Aegon (4.784375%) + Betha (0%) = Duncan, Jaehaerys, Shaera, Daeron, Rhaelle (2.3921%)

I did start rounding because everything was getting unnecessarily long.

Jaehaerys (2.3921%) + Shaera (2.3921%) = Aerys, Rhaella (2.3921%)

Self explanatory.

Aerys (2.3921%) + Rhaella (2.3921%) = Rhaegar, Viserys, Daenerys (2.3921%)

Also self explanatory.

Rhaegar (2.3921%) + Elia (?%) = Rhaenys, Aegon (a bit more than 1.196%)

I’m not sure exactly how much dragon blood Elia carries but I’m I think she had at least a quarter of the amount Rhaegar did.

She is decended from the 19.1375% Targaryen, Princess Daenerys and I think there are less generations between the daughter of Aegon IV and Elia than there are between Daeron II and Rhaegar because Elia’s mom had her at and older age and Aerys & Rhaella had Rhaegar incredibly young.

[sukibenders]

I know that HOTD is supposed end in tragedy and things like, but it's so nice to imagine how things could have been if peace was an option:

1.) Rhae and Alicent rekindling their friendship a year or so after Alicent is forced to marry Viserys. Like Rhae may have been giving her the cold shoulder for that time, but would always be the first person to look at Alicent with concern during the time of her pregnancy in fear of something going wrong. In turn, after supplying more support, Alicent feels safe enough to tell Rhae about what her father has been saying. This ends with Otto getting booted (instead of killed, bc I think Rhae would know that that's the last thing Alicent would want).

2.) Gwayne coming in and being in Alicent's corner, supporting and loving her in more ways than Otto ever did.

3.) Seeing more time spent between Harwin and Rhae. Like, in my mind, they are a little more lacks about their relationship within the family because no one, Otto specifically, is gunning out for them and Alicent is more assured of her children's safety. Maybe even Corlys and Rhaenys know of it, because Laenor is going to be honest with them about it, but would still be unsettled. I think, to make it easier, they would pass off the claim to Driftmark to Laena's daughters, Baela and Rhaena.

4.) Rhae and Alicent raising their kids alongside each other, so there's no bad blood and just a happy family. Like seeing Rhae interact with her siblings and not viewing them as a threat would be so wholesome. And Laena coming to visit with her twin girls and making the family even bigger. Idk about Daemon's place in all this, really, so for this instance he's just there but kept in a corner as to not cause trouble.

5.) Rhae getting to chew Viserys out, because it's what she deserves. Like knowing what he put her mother through, his hand in her death, and what he may be subjecting Alicent too (e.g. knowing he's neglecting his children with her) I feel she would let out some rage.

6.) Laena doesn't die, and gets to spend her days with her family because I said so. I'd you want Aegon III and Viserys II to exist, I guess they work out some way with Daemon and Rhae so have what you will. But back to Laena, we would even get to see more of her and Laenor bonding, and maybe even give their parents a piece of their minds.

7.) Aegon being put in check.

8.) Alicent, especially surrounded by healthy examples of parenting and feeling safe enough to do so, would probably reflect on not only her own relationship with her children, but also how her relationship with her father and Viserys shaped how she became. This would lead to many revelations but she learns to heal and be better towards her kids.

9.) More of the dragons, because this show is called House of the Dragon, with dragon literally in the name, but we hardly see them except for maybe two or three.

10.) Jace and Baela would still be together, because I love them and nothing can take them away from me. For Rhaena, because I want her with someone other than Luke, she could still possibly be with Garmund but ngl, I've seen some pairings of her and Daeron and I kind of see it.

11.) I am a Rhaenicent shipper, so that can exist in some regards as well because I say so. But also, Rhae and Laena will most definitely be a thing, like I see it.