#but pls LET'S JUST SUPPORT SHIGFY

[ignitification]

ah well my frustrations didn't translate well. It's just shigaraki's just one of the best written characters and he's like one of he characters who feels tangible. And deku in comparison well falls short, the narrative he had as a quirkless outcast was slated out and it maybe brought back but who knows. We're in the final stretch. Him saving shigaraki would feel hollow bcuz well if he couldn't even empathize with dabi who he actually does know about - the overburdening, abusive father, the weight of legacy, the indirect killing - well it's just raises doubts whether it would feel satisfactory when he does save shiggy. And well I'm more of the crowd that can actually see shigaraki saving deku because both tenko and shigaraki empathize with outcasts - I'm not against villains being saved but deku has never been like oh yeah maybe this society is screwed and I don't want villains losing their radical and legit criticism of the society and heroics.

Oh, OH! You’re the anon from before - so I got you partly right. I had the feeling you were more arguing because of the failings of Izuku rather than Shigaraki, so I absolute agree. Actually a lot of people (me included) would like to see a Quirkless Deku at the end of the manga, because indeed it would bring some sort of closure to the circle and because there would be no reason for the existence of OfA anymore (if AfO is gone) - so his character will definitely stay in the works until the last bit of the manga, which is why I get your criticism, especially if compared to Horikoshi’s most accomplished and best written character (Shigaraki). 

I think your ‘society is screwed and I don’t want villains losing their radical and legit criticism’ is very much my point to. That’s the defect Deku has as a character since the beginning, and while I already talked about this in the previous answer it does feel half baked in its realisation (especially if we consider how poorly he related to Dabi even though he bared himself for everyone to see) but at the same time I think this stems from the fact that Horikoshi’s goal is to have only ONE hero parallel and empathise with only ONE villain. I say this because it might not make sense otherwise, but what HK is building is an exclusive relationship in which only that hero might relate and empathise with that villain, putting the base for Deku saving Shigaraki because only he can. You get what I am pointing at? It’s still a loophole, because usually if you relate to a victim, then you should not relate only to one in particular, but I guess that in this case, HK thought it would fail the purpose of having Shouto/Touya as narrative foils, same as Ochako/Toga. When Deku saves Shigaraki, because he will, it will feel satisfactory exactly because of the exclusive relation each of them has to the other, not because Izuku’s character is an accomplished one. But that’s my opinion, really. I am trying to put myself into the writer’s perspective and while I do see his failings, I am trying also to think through the steps that HK might have made while writing the plot line. This still does not negate the fact that Izuku’s obsession with heroes and the inexistent potential will to actually understand that what the villains are trying to do is exactly to rupture the status quo he is inadvertently both keeping in place and destroying is what makes his character sometimes a Mary Sue who has no narrative flavour. But I guess that in order to accomplish his mission he would have to get there at some point, it is (just as @/haleigh-sloth pointed out in this post) taking a damn lot of time. 

However, let’s try to be positive and enjoy the narrative. We will get there. Or die trying. So let the odds be in our favour.