#cinderpelt wc

[bogcreacher]

she’s not the stepfather she’s the father that stepped up last drawing (Fireheart taking a t shot whilst Yellowfang helps) was inspired by @/poproxxz comment on Instagram!

[clanslist]

[sprout-battlecats]

cinderpelt

[fossakit]

random warrior day 1 - Cinderpelt

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[lockede-x-it]

Like I agree entirely with the Cinderpelt post, but I think it's perhaps because Cinderpelt had a hind leg injury, rather than a forepaw. This is quite a significant difference especially for cats. (E.g, an inability to pounce normally). Granted, I don't think the Erins thought of this, but it's something worth mentioning because I never see it brought up in this discussion.

(note: i am not a veterinarian or super knowledgeable on cat physiology so i'm purely just going off what i know of basic injury. if someone who IS more qualified in that field sees this post and wants to correct anything i say here, go right ahead! i honestly just want an end to this debate. with that said, the answer to this ask is under the cut)

purely because i'm actually getting tired of people constantly bringing this up: cats are very adaptive and they can do just fine on three legs after enough time to recover!

yes, having an injured back leg and a deformed front paw are very different injuries! however, because i doubt the Erins really considered it while writing these characters, we don't know just how bad Cinderpelt's injury was!

from a lot of the counterpoints i've seen saying that Cinderpelt's injury was more severe, a lot of them seem to make it out that Cinder's hip bone was shattered or badly injured. if her hip was shattered, she wouldn't be able to walk at all on her back legs (think Briarlight). if it was badly injured to where it never healed well, i imagine she wouldn't be able to walk far without taking frequent breaks (which is never mentioned as i'm reading through the books right now (currently at the halfway point of The Darkest Hour, long after Cinder became mobile again))

regardless, neither Cinderpelt NOR Deadfoot seem to be able to put any weight on their affected limbs. both injuries would affect how well they'd be able to hunt or fight effectively compared to an abled cat and therefore both would put into question their ability to be "true" warriors in the eyes of their clanmates.

Deadfoot was born with his injury, yes, but why should that mean Cinderpelt can't be given a chance to adapt to her injury and work towards being a Warrior as well? i don't think the point in both cats lives in which they got their conditions matters much in this context and moreso of just how much they actually affect the cat which, again, the Erins don't give us a super clear idea of! also Brightheart was rendered half-blind and half-deaf after the dog attack but she was easily given her opportunity to prove herself as a warrior not long after she recovered in the same arc!! (which isnt the same as a leg injury but it still goes to show how fucked this inconsistency is)

if you want to interpret that either cat's injury is worse or better than the other's, go ahead. but because of the above that i've stated, that is the reason i made the original post to begin with and as far as canon is concerned, it's purely up to the reader's interpretation but at the end of the day, there is no denying how atrocious the inconsistent levels of ableism can be in these books.

[leaflverr]

Cinderpelt and Yellowfang

[rats-wc-designs]

some first arc headcanons + designs

[vivultures]

Cinderpelt that I’m not posting to ig this one tumblr eyes only babey

[fallenrain40]

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[logovokamaza]

My old drawings with dandelions. All characters that I associate with dandelions suffer from unrequited love for a long time and in the end they die tragically lol

Well, ↑ they ↑ were really unlucky

Link to my video about dandelions

[blizzyboyy]

cinderpelt

[bogcreacher]

inflicting my horrible little headcanons on anthro warriors. Yellowfang drives a big fuck-off truck. Cinderpelt is punk rock and also a huge fuckin dweeb

[ratsoup64]

experimental cinderpelt painty thingy

[shinetoothwc]

cindy

[fossakit]

quick kitty doodle i love them so much

[lockede-x-it]

Sorry to send an ask about it but I do genuinely find it fascinating how the books treat disability ( fascinating in a bad way )

Like, it /is/ cannon that Deadfoot is proud of his name, and in AUs or rewrites ( like Bonefalls wc universe where Deadfoot is named after their fighting style and disabilities and scars are not the end of a cats life but rather a sign of pride or just something about you ) that's fine, but in the canon material where Snowkit dies to a Hawk ( something that never happens again ) or Briarlight dies to illness randomly, or Brightheart is seen as a " second med cat/med cat assistant ", or Longtail has to retire bc he was blinded, or Jayfeather is shown to be worse at everything his able bodied siblings can do and just /has/ to be a med cat bc of it, or- ok you get it.

Like you pointed out, Cinderpaw is told she can NEVER be a warrior with her injury, yet here's this proud older DEPUTY right across the border doing all that warrior stuff she was told she could never do. And maybe it's bc Deadfoot was born with his disability vs Cinderpelt gaining hers but??? Idk the writing team is wack in so many ways but their portrayal of disabilities has always been odd ( again, in a bad way )

no yeah it's incredibly bizarre to me as well because in Fire and Ice (the book where Deadfoot and Cinderpaw are introduced properly), Fireheart has a positive relationship with Deadfoot and i think it's a disappointingly missed opportunity for Fireheart to mention Deadfoot to Cinderpaw while she was in recovery (especially since he spent most of the book feeling like shit and blaming himself for her accident + Cinderpaw herself was convinced she was useless to her Clan now).

the Erins had such a cool chance of uplifting their disabled audience by having Fireheart and Cinderpaw fight for her right to continue training as a warrior by using Deadfoot as an example instead of just believing Yellowfang at her word especially given the background Yellowfang is from where ShadowClan (at least under Brokenstar's rule) was obsessed with their ideals of strength and (maybe this is my bias towards Yellowfang pre-death) perhaps she internalized her desire to protect those who could be considered worthless by making them become a healer instead to avoid a possibly crueler treatment from her experience (i.e. overworking/overtraining a cat past their capabilities to the point of death)