brb crying about vaxleth again because liam has shared orym's initial origins idea on 4 sided dive and it turns out if vax had died before the end of campaign 1, liam was thinking about playing orym as a widowed character that helps keyleth go through her grief. vax lived till the end of vox machina's story and so the concept changed, eventually it was keyleth who helped orym go through his grief after losing his family instead