#does he know that the constellation he’s looking at is called Centaurus? maybe not

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Leo going from not knowing the capital of New York to being a pro at GeoGuessr because he ended up in so many random places that he just sorta started to recognize geographical landmarks (especially those he’s fallen face first onto)

He still doesn’t remember all the names, but he could tell you where on earth he was from the dirt alone

[elencelebrindal]

What's your opinion on the four saints of unknown rank? And assuming one of the cloths is the Coma Berenices one like in the novel, which are the remaining three in your opinion?

Edited because I made a mistake and the total of the Cloths was 87 and not the correct 88. 

Under the cut, this post is very long (mostly because of huge lists I wrote down). Also, of course this is just my reasoning. There could be a way simpler interpretation of all of this, but I love in depth analysis and I applied it here as well. 

I actually have a big theory about it. Crazy and convoluted, but a good theory for how I look at things. Please don’t take it too seriously, the usual disclaimer. I’m just a fan that loves to delve too much into this stuff. Bear with me. 

There’s a lot of Cloths we don’t know about, even if we add all the existing series to the list.  There’s 72 Cloths, taking away the Gold ones, and we only know 62. If I counted correctly, this takes into consideration all the non-Gold Cloths of the entire franchise, though I might be wrong.

Andromeda

Apus

Aquila (Eagle)

Ara (Altar)

Auriga

Bootes

Caelum

Camelopardalis

Canes Venatici (Hound)

Canis Maior

Cassiopea

Centaurus

Cepheus

Cerberus - obsolete constellation

Cetus (Whale

Chamaeleon

Circinus (Compass)

Columba

Corona Borealis (Northern Crown)

Corvus (Crow)

Crater (Crateris)

Crux

Cygnus

Delphinus

Dorado

Draco (Dragon)

Equuleus

Grus (Crane)

Heracles

Horologium

Hydra

Hydrus

Lacerta (Lizard)

Leo Minor (Lionet)

Lepus

Lupus (Wolf)

Lynx

Lyra

Monoceros (Unicorn)

Musca

Norma

Ophiuchus

Orion

Pavo

Pegasus

Perseus

Phoenix

Piscis Austrinus

Puppis

Pyxis

Rangifer Tarandus (Reindeer) - obsolete

Reticulum

Sagitta

Scutum

Serpens

Sextans

Triangulum (Triangle)

Ursa Maior (Bear)

Ursa Minor 

Vela

Volans

Vulpecula

This gives us 26 remaining options, but there’s also a problem: two of the constellations in this list are obsolete constellations, aka constellations that don’t exist anymore. Obviously, the Corona Cloths don’t make the list, since they’re not Saints of Athena. So, the constellations we have left are not 26, but 28. Minus the Zodiac constellation, they are 16.

Canis Minor

Carina

Corona Australis

Eridanus

Fornax

Indus

Antlia

Mensa

Microscopium

Octans

Pictor

Sculptor

Telescopium

Trangulum Australe

Tucana

Coma Berenices (which is one of the unknown Cloths)

The anime has the Fornax Cloth, as does Saint Seiya Online; I didn’t count it in the previous list because I’m not sure if the Fornax Saint is actually a Saint (since in Italy he’s quite literally called “Knight of the Flame”, not of the fornax, and he has the name “Saint of the Flame” alongside “Ennetsu Saint”). 

The Eridanus Cloth appeared briefly in the anime, I put it on this list because there’s no named Saint linked to it. It’s not relevant to the point I’ll be making in a while, so it can stay in both lists.  The same goes for the Indus Cloth and the Tucana Cloth.

The Mensa Cloth appears only in Saint Seiya Online, so I decided to put it in this list instead of the previous one. 

The Sculptor Cloth was mentioned alongside the Caelum Cloth in the Taizen, so it’s actually a known Cloth, but since it has no named Saint I decided to put it here.

All the other ones never appeared in any iteration of the frachise (as far as I know). 

Out of these 16, there’s two of them that apparently aren’t existing Cloths, since two obsolete constellations took their place. Following this reasoning, it actually makes sense for at least those two to be unknown.  But what about the other two? What about Coma Berenices and the other one? Maybe Coma Berenice and one of these other constellation are not in the list. Maybe there’s two more obsolete constellation that are in their place. Maybe, 4 out of the 16 constellations up there, Coma Berenices included, are not linked to Athena, maybe 4 obsolete constellations are in their place. 2 of them are absolutely out of the picture, because of Cerberus and Reindeer, so it makes sense to complete the set and put 2 more obsolete constellations to substitute 2 “normal” ones.  Maybe those 3 constellation alongside Coma Berenices are the most modern ones of the bunch, aka Telescopium (telescope), Microscopium (microscope), and Antlia (air pump), which... in my opinion, don’t really belong. Other modern ones, like Fornax and Mensa, seem more appropriate for the “mythological” setting of Saint Seiya. But these three... well, to me, they seem way too weird, especially if you think that the Cloths were made way back in the old times.  If we follow what the series has already done, aka using obsolete constellations, it’s easy to take two more from the list and use them to replace two of the unknown ones. 

In fact, we do have one more obsolete constellation. We have Noctua, the Owl. As we all know, the Owl Cloth belongs to Partita. Sure, it became a Surplice, but it’s still there.  This does nothing but reinforce my theory.  This leaves us with only one obsolete constellation missing, so it’s perfectly believable that 4 of those 88 modern constellations are unknown Cloths that were replaces by 4 other ones. 

In short, we have Solarium and Cerberus in place of, let’s say as an example, Coma Berenices and Antlia, and two more to replace Telescopium and Microscopium.  You could point out the problem of: aren’t obsolete constellation “not in the sky” anymore because other ones have their place? Well, yes, but! Cerberus and Hercules share the same space, almost. One of the stars of Cerbeus, the main one in fact, is 109 Herculis, a star that belongs to the Hercules constellation. So, if this merge can happen in canon, I won’t consider it a problem in this case. 

This leads me to believe that the 4 unknown Cloths are Coma Berenices (already known), Antlia, Telescopium and Microscopium.  I’m not sure if we know when those 4 Cloths were made, so I won’t make any more guesses as to why those 3 modern ones are part of the group (aside from “they don’t seem to belong”), but this is my idea.  It took way too long for me to come up with this, probably a time I could have used in a more constructive way since there’s probably a way easier explanation somewhere, but I have fun doing this so... this is it. 

I do actually have the fourth obsolete constellation in my own headcanons, Antinoo (it specifically represents an Ancient Greek man, who was also adored as either a deity or a deified mortal). I just wanted to add this to conclude all this convoluted reasoning that has probably no reason to even exist. 

Basically, the four obsolete constellation and the respective (well, they can be rearranged as you want, there’s no problems in mixing them up as I stated before) unknown ones are:

Coma Berenices / Cerberus

Antlia / Antinoo

Microscopium / Noctua

Telescopium / Solarium

Sorry for the long wait, I hope this essay answered your question correctly!

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Cute little space themed questions:

I wanted to answer all these and you can find the original post here.

Planets: Life

Mercury: What’s your full name? Emily Crow

Venus: What’s your first language? English

Earth: Where’s your home? South Western Florida

Mars: What’s your sexuality? Straight, Demi-sexual

Jupiter: Do you have any siblings? A brother and a sister

Saturn: Any pets? Not currently

Uranus: What’s your hobby? Writing and reading, and recently playing video games

Neptune: When’s your birthday? July 21st

Pluto: What time is it right now where you are? 9:33 PM

Moon: What are you currently studying/hope to study? I would like to complete a degree in creative writing, but S thinks I should go into screenwriting

Stars: Experiences

Sun: Have you ever had alcohol? Of course I have

Sirius: Have you ever failed a class? Unfortunately

Rigel: Have you ever gone on a rollercoaster? YESSS, I love them

Deneb: Have you ever been out of your home country? I’ve only been to Mexico

Arcturus: Have you cried out of something other than sadness? All the time

Betelgeuse: What’s something you can never forget about? The first time S smiled at me

Aldebaran: What’s something you care desperately about? My loved ones

Canopus: Have you ever broken a bone? My wrist in the third grade

Bellatrix: Have you ever been forced to lie/keep a secret? Yes

Alphard: Have you ever lost a friend? It is painful, but I don’t think all friendships need to last forever

Vega: What’s something you’ve done that you wish you hadn’t? I wish I had told certain people about certain things in the past

Constellations: Favourites

Centaurus: Favourite holiday? Christmas

Orion: Favourite month? October

Cassiopeia: Favourite book? Flowers in the Attic

Delphinus: Favourite study? English and/or History

Hercules: Favourite instrument? Violin

Gemini: Favourite song? Currently, The Moon Song by Karen O

Pegasus: Favourite place to be? The beach at night

Libra: Favourite colour? Cinderella Blue

Phoenix: Favourite thing to wear? Any good fitting gray sweater

Aries: Favourite movie? Labyrinth by Jim Henson

Cygnus: Favourite weather? Rain in Kentucky

Hydra: Favourite sound? Rain against windows or tin roofs

Galaxies: Love/Friends  

Milky Way: Who’s your oldest friend? Let’s call her B

Andromeda: Do you consider yourself social? Kinda

Black Eye Galaxy: Do you believe in love at first sight? Not really

Cartwheel Galaxy: When was your first kiss? At age eighteen and so much regret

Cigar Galaxy: How’s your flirting skills? Well I was the one who pursued and asked out S sooooo alright I guess

Comet Galaxy: Have you ever had to leave a relationship because someone changed too much? Nope

Pinwheel Galaxy: Would you date the last person you talked to? S, yessss I already am

Sombrero Galaxy: Do you have a crush right now? On S, big time

Bode’s Galaxy: Have you ever had a secret admirer? Not that I know of

Sunflower Galaxy: Would you date/make friends with someone out of pity? Absolutely not

Tadpole Galaxy: Would you deny a relationship/friendship? Yes

Whirlpool Galaxy: Have you ever cried over a breakup? Nope

Other stuff: Wishes

Comet: What’s your big dream? To have a successful career that I could enjoy

Asteroid: What does your dream life look like? A stable relationship, successful career, raising a kid maybe, and being able to travel occasionally

Meteor: What’s something you wish you could tell, but can’t? I don’t really have anything like that right now

Nebula: If you could undo one thing in your life, what would it be? Possibly not getting depression

Shooting Star: If you could bring back one thing, what would it be? I wish that S could have met my grandfather while he was alive

Pulsar: What do you hope to do in the next 10 years? Find a nice career, move to a new place, if things go well with S get married and travel a bit

Supernova: What’s one thing you want to do before you die? Kiss the love of my life at the top of the Eiffel Tower

Quasar: If you could spend the rest of your life with only one person, who would it be? Preferably S

Wormhole: What’s something you wish would happen, but know won’t? That I’ll never be anxiety free again

Black Hole: What’s the last thing you want to see? The moon and stars

[jellyfishline]

All the space questions >:)

dude okay you better be ready for a trip this is gonna be looooong

Planets: Life

Mercury: What’s your full name?

Maegan!! and yes, it really is spelled that way idk ask my parents

Venus: What’s your first language?

English!

Earth: Where’s your home?

also Earth! but specifically Illinois, America’s least-interesting state.

Mars: What’s your sexuality?

eeeergh gay-ish? kinda bi? idk It’s Complicated

Jupiter: Do you have any siblings?

just one! my big bro

Saturn: Any pets?

nope :(

Uranus: What’s your hobby?

what isn’t my hobby lol. I write, I sew, I knit, I crochet, I cook, I garden, I read, I draw, I paint, I own more video games than any person rightfully should, I have an unhealthy obsession with interior decorating–basically if you name it and it doesn’t involve a lot of hand-eye coordination or depth perception, I probably have tried it at least.

Neptune: When’s your birthday?

April 1st. yes really.

Pluto: What time is it right now where you are?

uhhhh… 6:49 PM.

Moon: What are you currently studying/hope to study?

as in, college? technically my major is undecided, but being totally honest: I really wanna study acting.

Stars: Experiences

Sun: Have you ever had alcohol? 

yes!! I’ve never been drunk tho

Sirius: Have you ever failed a class?

um…. yes…..

Rigel: Have you ever gone on a rollercoaster?

twice, when I was little. the first time was really fun! the second was… less so :p

Deneb: Have you ever been out of your home country?

nope!

Arcturus: Have you cried out of something other than sadness?

all the time. it’s kinda embarrassing lol

Betelgeuse: What’s something you can never forget about?

oh gosh. lots of stuff. I can never forget my grandmother’s old house, or the songs I listened to as a kid, or my favorite movies, or my favorite foods. I have a lot of memories I guess!

Aldebaran: What’s something you care desperately about?

my girlfriend

Canopus: Have you ever broken a bone?

nope!

Bellatrix: Have you ever been forced to lie/keep a secret?

not that I can remember? not anything really huge or important, anyway.

Alphard: Have you ever lost a friend?

yeah. a lot of them, honestly.

Vega: What’s something you’ve done that you wish you hadn’t?

ugh. um, I wish I didn’t screw up so many friendships in such dumb ways, I guess.

Constellations: Favourites

Centaurus: Favourite holiday?

uh, it’s probably a tie between Christmas and Halloween. really though I’m always up for an excuse to decorate stuff and have fun.

Orion: Favourite month?

I’m a pretty big fan of March and October

Cassiopeia: Favourite book?

I have lots of favorites. one of them is The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss.

Delphinus: Favourite study?

I’m kinda obsessed with history. like, I’d love to be a historian if I didn’t have to do so much schooling to do it.

Hercules: Favourite instrument?

I love all sorts of music, but I’m very fond of violins, cellos, and woodwinds. I also love the ukulele, which I can play!

Gemini: Favourite song?

I have a lot of these too, but one of them is Home by Gabrielle Aplin

Pegasus: Favourite place to be?

I love libraries and art museums. I love the library of my parents’ house, where I’m typing this now. I love little small soft spaces that I can curl up in. I like to make little caves out of blankets in the winter time that I can hide in.

Libra: Favourite colour?

purple and gray.

Phoenix: Favourite thing to wear?

probably my big green sweater. it’s so soft and long and perfect for snuggling!

Aries: Favourite movie?

right now I’m gonna say The Iron Giant, but again, I love a lot of movies.

Cygnus: Favourite weather?

soft cloudy breezy days with a hint of rain. loud pounding thunderstorms in the morning. sunny spring days with warm afternoons and crisp winds.

Hydra: Favourite sound?

windchimes and bells, especially small, cheerful ones. they sound like magic to me. 

Galaxies: Love/Friends  

Milky Way: Who’s your oldest friend?  

if we’re talking friends that I still regularly keep in contact with, then I’d say probably my best pal Shana. I’ve known her for… five years? six? wow it’s been a while.

Andromeda: Do you consider yourself social?

yes! mostly! I’m very social but I’m a big fickle about who I spend time with.

Black Eye Galaxy: Do you believe in love at first sight?

yes and no. I don’t believe you can be in love with someone without spending the time to get to know them first, but I do believe that there are people who you just sort of click with immediately, and all that complicated getting-to-know-you stuff feels so much easier with them than with other people. there are people who are fascinating to watch and to listen to, people who catch your eye the moment you see them. I wouldn’t call it love exactly, but it’s something.

Cartwheel Galaxy: When was your first kiss?

um. no comment lol.

Cigar Galaxy: How’s your flirting skills?

oh geez. I’m so bad at flirting. like… so bad. the worst. mostly I just aggressively compliment people and stare at them and hope they don’t hate me?

Comet Galaxy: Have you ever had to leave a relationship because someone changed too much?

uh, not really. usually it’s more that people automatically leave me when they change, not that I don’t want them around anymore.

Pinwheel Galaxy: Would you date the last person you talked to?

I AM dating the last person I talked to lol. unless you count telling my bro that I didn’t care if he used the TV, in which case, ew no.

Sombrero Galaxy: Do you have a crush right now?

yeah….

Bode’s Galaxy: Have you ever had a secret admirer?

if I have, they’ve been very stealthy about it!

Sunflower Galaxy: Would you date/make friends with someone out of pity?

no? I mean, if someone is lonely/doesn’t seem to have a lot of friends I might make an extra effort to talk to them, but I wouldn’t ever spend time with someone JUST out of pity, that’d be insulting and unpleasant for both of us

Tadpole Galaxy: Would you deny a relationship/friendship?

why would I?

Whirlpool Galaxy: Have you ever cried over a breakup?

if friend-breakups count, then yes.

Other stuff: Wishes

Comet: What’s your big dream? 

to get my own books published someday. to move out of my parents’ house. to get a job I love and don’t hate.

Asteroid: What does your dream life look like? 

I live in a small and extremely comfortable house with my wife. we have a few kids and a bunch of dogs and maybe a cat or two. I have plenty of time to spend on all my hobbies and a garden out front that I’m always struggling to remember to water. my job is creative and exciting and not horribly stressful. also we live on a farm and I get to pet goats all the time because this is a dream so I get to have whatever I want. I bake bread every single day and I never have to vacuum the carpets.

Meteor: What’s something you wish you could tell, but can’t?

I wish I was better at articulating my thoughts in general. there’s a lot of little day-to-day thoughts I have that I’d love to tell people, but I’ve never been good at telling people what I’m thinking or why. 

Nebula: If you could undo one thing in your life, what would it be?

only one thing? hmm… I’m not sure there’s really anything I’d change. everything that’s happened to me is part of me now, and if I changed it… I’m not sure I’d recognize myself. 

Shooting Star: If you could bring back one thing, what would it be?

I’d make the books I loved as a kid stop being out of print.

Pulsar: What do you hope to do in the next 10 years?

I guess I hope I’ll make a little more progress towards my dream life? finally graduate college probably and make a few more friends, maybe finish a book or two.

Supernova: What’s one thing you want to do before you die?

I want to travel the world. all over Europe and Asia and just… everywhere I can.

Quasar: If you could spend the rest of your life with only one person, who would it be?

oh gosh that’s way too hard of a question! I love all the people I love too much to decide. plus, with only one person we’d definitely get sick of each other after a while.

Wormhole: What’s something you wish would happen, but know won’t

that all of the political bullshit currently ruining my country and my mental health would shut up and go away immediately

Black Hole: What’s the last thing you want to see?

like, the last thing I want to see before I die? or like, the last thing I want to see as in the thing I least want to see ever? as for the former, I don’t know, and as for the latter, idk but I feel like all the above political bullshit comes pretty close

[pinnyapolis]

All the space questions

I was putting off doing these but now I’m cooling off from my workout so why not lmao

Planets: Life

Mercury: What’s your full name? Angel Adolfo Rodriguez

Venus: What’s your first language? Spanish

Earth: Where’s your home? Right here in my apartment, in California

Mars: What’s your sexuality? Most likely gay, maybe demisexual I’ll let you know when I get close enough to someone to feel love

Jupiter: Do you have any siblings? I have two sisters

Saturn: Any pets? Growing up I had a lot but right now I have none :(

Uranus: What’s your hobby? Drawing, designing, 3d modeling

Neptune: When’s your birthday? April 5th!

Pluto: What time is it right now where you are? 6:27 pm

Moon: What are you currently studying/hope to study? Nothing 

Stars: Experiences

Sun: Have you ever had alcohol? A lot

Sirius: Have you ever failed a class? A few lmao

Rigel: Have you ever gone on a rollercoaster? Yeahhhhh

Deneb: Have you ever been out of your home country? To Mexico a few times but that’s it

Arcturus: Have you cried out of something other than sadness? I have not

Betelgeuse: What’s something you can never forget about? Too many to mention at once

Aldebaran: What’s something you care desperately about? I don’t even know

Canopus: Have you ever broken a bone? Nope

Bellatrix: Have you ever been forced to lie/keep a secret? Literally my entire life lmao

Alphard: Have you ever lost a friend? Lots

Vega: What’s something you’ve done that you wish you hadn’t? Been born

Constellations: Favourites

Centaurus: Favourite holiday? Christmas!

Orion: Favourite month? Winter months tbh

Cassiopeia: Favourite book? Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston 

Delphinus: Favourite study? Game design

Hercules: Favourite instrument? piano I guess????

Gemini: Favourite song? Right now it’s Spanish Sahara by Foals

Pegasus: Favourite place to be? Alone

Libra: Favourite colour? Red

Phoenix: Favourite thing to wear? Hoodies!

Aries: Favourite movie? Amelie

Cygnus: Favourite weather? Foggy/overcast!

Hydra: Favourite sound? The noise of a busy kitchen

Galaxies: Love/Friends  

Milky Way: Who’s your oldest friend? Probably my friend Dylan from work, he’s 31 I think

Andromeda: Do you consider yourself social? Not really, I’m trying to get more out of my shell and I’ve grown a lot since I moved to SF but I’m still very shy lmao

Black Eye Galaxy: Do you believe in love at first sight? I don’t even know if I believe in love itself

Cartwheel Galaxy: When was your first kiss? Hasn’t happened yet

Cigar Galaxy: How’s your flirting skills? Bad, like really bad

Comet Galaxy: Have you ever had to leave a relationship because someone changed too much? I’ve been in one relationship and he left because he got bored of me so no

Pinwheel Galaxy: Would you date the last person you talked to? The last person I talked to is my roommate and I wouldn’t even if he wasn’t straight he’s literally my brother (not literally but he’s family)

Sombrero Galaxy: Do you have a crush right now? Not that I’m aware

Bode’s Galaxy: Have you ever had a secret admirer? My ex

Sunflower Galaxy: Would you date/make friends with someone out of pity? Usually it’s the other way around so no

Tadpole Galaxy: Would you deny a relationship/friendship? I have, so yes

Whirlpool Galaxy: Have you ever cried over a breakup? Nah, I just felt empty after for a few days but I never cried

Other stuff: Wishes

Comet: What’s your big dream? To develop an indie game that emotionally resonates with at least one person, that would be enough

Asteroid: What does your dream life look like? I don’t know

Meteor: What’s something you wish you could tell, but can’t? I wish I could tell if any of this was worthwhile 

Nebula: If you could undo one thing in your life, what would it be? Letting space build up between me and friends; not fighting for people

Shooting Star: If you could bring back one thing, what would it be? Nothing

Pulsar: What do you hope to do in the next 10 years? Hopefully be in game development

Supernova: What’s one thing you want to do before you die? See for myself if love is real

Quasar: If you could spend the rest of your life with only one person, who would it be? ????????????

Wormhole: What’s something you wish would happen, but know won’t? For my dad to stop calling me

Black Hole: What’s the last thing you want to see? My life go to waste