#doublehex

[the-lady-rae]

@doublehex

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[thelustybraavosimaid]

@doublehex.

You asked, I shall answer on a different post (as not to clog mummersblade's activity/post):

Did GRRM always plan on Jon being resurrected, or do you think lines like that one is just a coincidence? There are times that I think GRRM always planned on it, right from the start.

Yes, I really think he did. Let me find the quotes to kind of back this up:

Finally he looked north. He saw the Wall shining like blue crystal, and his bastard brother Jon sleeping alone in a cold bed, his skin growing pale and hard as the memory of all warmth fled from him. (Bran III, AGoT)

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Chunks of coal burned in iron braziers at either end of the long room, but Jon found himself shivering. The chill was always with him here. In a few years he would forget what it felt like to be warm. (Jon III, AGoT)

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“Yes, life,” Noye said. “A long life or a short one, it’s up to you, Snow. The road you’re walking, one of your brothers will slit your throat for you one night.” (Jon III, AGoT)

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He saw the glint of steel, turned toward it. “No blades!” he screamed. “Wick, put that knife…”

…away, he meant to say. When Wick Whittlestick slashed at his throat, the word turned into a grunt. Jon twisted from the knife, just enough so it barely grazed his skin. He cut me. When he put his hand to the side of his neck, blood welled between his fingers. “Why?”

“For the Watch.” Wick slashed at him again. (Jon XIII, ADwD)

Jon lost his life not just for Arya, but also from growing discontent with fellow Night's Watchmen, shown early on in ADwD and it's his inflexibility—and his involvement in the matters of the realm—that led to his demise. This line of Noye's especially seems to be foreshadowing enough for me, not dissimilar to Arya's "a wolf with a fish in its mouth?" quote.

The original outline mentions that there is a deadly rivalry, between Jon and Tyrion, over Arya. The dynamic is still there, but the members have been switched around. We've seen this enacted in the series (still with) Jon, but over "Arya" and with Ramsay (as he burned Winterfell, with the sieging "assistance" from Theon. There is obviously no real love, helpless or otherwise, between Jeyne and Ramsay, but as his wife, Ramsay claims possession of her). In a way, it is Ramsay's words and letter (assuming he wrote it) that also led to Jon's death.

Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard's heart and eat it. (Jon XIII, ADwD)

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His fingers closed around the parchment. Would that they could crush Ramsay Bolton's throat as easily. (Jon VI, ADwD)

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I have my swords, thought Jon Snow, and we are coming for you, Bastard. (Jon XIII, ADwD)

I cannot help but feel that George always intended to make him test his vows - unsuccessfully in the beginning, hard decisions to make but ones that would ultimately allow him to go back and realise his duty, before he gets hit really hard with the final one, the deadly one.

So I think his intention was always to die and come back. And that's the importance of Melisandre staying on the Wall. (I feel like Jon is the *stone dragon* that R'hllor wants her to wake, but that is a conversation for a different time.)

My spells should suffice. She was stronger at the Wall, stronger even than in Asshai. Her every word and gesture was more potent, and she could do things that she had never done before. (Melisandre I, ADwD)

So since we established that Jon was, in my opinion, almost designed to die, there had to be some kind of workaround for him to return. What better way than with resurrection?

As he had criticised Tolkien for with Gandalf, his idea of returning would come with a twist.

Even less likely is that he came up with Jon being killed and resurrected while he was writing ADWD. He starts to lay down the foreshadowing real thick in that book, so that could be evidence that he needed to lay the train tracks as the train was coming to town.

Yeah, I would even go so far as to say that he began the death imagery and hints for Jon in AGoT:

Jon shook his head. "No one. The castle is always empty." He had never told anyone of the dream, and he did not understand why he was telling Sam now, yet somehow it felt good to talk of it. "Even the ravens are gone from the rookery, and the stables are full of bones. That always scares me. I start to run then, throwing open doors, climbing the tower three steps at a time, screaming for someone, for anyone. And then I find myself in front of the door to the crypts. It's black inside, and I can see the steps spiraling down. Somehow I know I have to go down there, but I don't want to. I'm afraid of what might be waiting for me. The old Kings of Winter are down there, sitting on their thrones with stone wolves at their feet and iron swords across their laps, but it's not them I'm afraid of. I scream that I'm not a Stark, that this isn't my place, but it's no good, I have to go anyway, so I start down, feeling the walls as I descend, with no torch to light the way. It gets darker and darker, until I want to scream." He stopped, frowning, embarrassed. "That's when I always wake." (Jon IV, AGoT)

There's a lot waiting down there for him - Ned, Lyanna, perhaps? Information about his parentage? But also death.

There's an interesting theory that the crypts serve as an in-between of life and death, which is why Rickon and Bran dreamt of Ned down in the crypts even before the raven came with the announcement that he had died.

The names of the direwolves also are important. The fact that we know that wargs and skinchangers live on in their bonded companions gives credence to Ghost's name.

I'm not so sure about this, as I think the biggest reason he has Lady Stoneheart and Berric Dondarion is to set up Jon's resurrection, but there is still the chance he connected all those three characters together after he wrote ASOS.

Yep! He talked about this before, actually:

And, ehh, he’s more or less the same as always, except he’s more powerful. It always felt a little bit like a cheat to me. And as I got older and considered it more, it also seemed to me that death doesn’t make you more powerful. That’s, in some ways, me talking to Tolkien in the dialogue, saying, “Yeah, if someone comes back from being dead, especially if they suffer a violent, traumatic death, they’re not going to come back as nice as ever.” That’s what I was trying to do, and am still trying to do, with the Lady Stoneheart character.

And Jon Snow, too, is drained by the experience of coming back from the dead on the show.

Right. And poor Beric Dondarrion, who was set up as the foreshadowing of all this, every time he’s a little less Beric. His memories are fading, he’s got all these scars, he’s becoming more and more physically hideous, because he’s not a living human being anymore. His heart isn’t beating, his blood isn’t flowing in his veins, he’s a wight, but a wight animated by fire instead of by ice, now we’re getting back to the whole fire and ice thing.

George describes Lady Stoneheart in this same interview as "a vengeful wight who galvanizes a group of people around her and is trying to exact her revenge on the riverlands."

Jon will be different in the sense that he is a warg and has a shield against what's causing Stoneheart and Beric's deteriorations—Ghost—but being a warg has its perils as well:

"They say you forget," Haggon had told him, a few weeks before his own death. "When the man's flesh dies, his spirit lives on inside the beast, but every day his memory fades, and the beast becomes a little less a warg, a little more a wolf, until nothing of the man is left and only the beast remains." (Prologue, ADwD)

As Jon is the only main character warg who actually died, this passage is meant to be about him.

[chillyravenart]

doublehex replied to your post: As someone who hasn’t read the books, what’s wrong...

What about Willas and Garlan? They seem to be legitimately good people. Willas is still friends with Oberyn even though he got crippled by him. @chillyravenart

@doublehex SNOOOOOOORE 😴😴😴😴

[thelioninmybed]

doublehex replied to your post “are we?”

As someone who has never read any JaimexCersei fic, yeah, that is not canon

GRRM is infamous for subtly hinting at important information without stating it directly. Much like Renly/Loras, R+L=J, Frey Pies and F!Aegon, the text heavily implies this is the case but you need to read closely to pick up on it.

[naomimakesart]

doublehex replied to your photo “Finally finished these two! My first attempt at both Laena and Laenor...”

One thing I seem to notice allot is that your Valyrians tend to have a tan, or have a slight Mediterranean hue to them. Is that intentional?

I believe I’ve talked about this before here @doublehex​, so I’ll just redirect you to the answer! 

[lyannas]

doublehex

  petition to have Arya cut the man bun loose from...

Noooo, badass manbun Jon forever

my intense dislike of show!jon is directly correlated to when he began sporting a manbun, i need it to go away so that i can like him again

[madaboutasoiaf]

doublehex reblogged your photoset and added:

I did not ask for this. How dare you make me emotional at 10 PM on a Friday night.

Sorry not sorry

[joannalannister]

@doublehex reblogged your post:Hi there!

Jonerys is not even Joanna’s big ship, and yet she writes about it with more passion, honesty, sincerity, and conviction than the rest of us combined. She’s one hell of a writer.

Thank you, that’s very kind of you to say, though I’m sure there are many people in the Jon/Dany fandom who are much better writers than I am!

I love ASOIAF. I love the themes that GRRM is writing about. Jon/Dany just comes with the territory. 

[willorcs]

@doublehex replied to your post “@ HBO STOP spending your fuckin money on g*me of thr*nes, nobody wants...”

Game of Thrones is, literally, the most popular show on television right now. You could not have been more wrong than if you said 2 + 2 is 5.

LMFAOOOOO....popular doesn’t mean GOOD. GoT is an overrated show, probably one of the most overrated shows ever. I love A Song of Ice and Fire so much, and the first 3 seasons of GoT were pretty decent, but the rest of the seasons are pretty crappy....

[bitchfromtheseventhhell]

@ajax-daughter-of-telamon replied to your post “Things that fuck me up Theon is older than Brienne”

she's so young, it always blows my mind to remember it

same tho.  like i sometimes have to remind myself how smol she is

@doublehex reblogged your post and added:

wtf are you serious nope nope i call bs dont care what george says, no way theon is older than brienne. Brienne acts SO MUCH OLDER than theon, I always imagine her older than the Big 6 (Tyrion excluded).

yup.  theon was born in ‘78 or ‘79 and brienne was born in ‘80 according to awoiaf.  

@medievalcat replied to your post “Things that fuck me up Theon is older than Brienne”

my children who are both younger than me :o

s a m e

[jon-erys]

LISTEN if you haven’t read ‘A Song For Dragons’ by Doublehex, do it now!!! 

It’s one of the best jonerys fanfics I’ve come across!!! 

Read it, you won’t regret it!!!

[iceandfiresource]

I have some reccomendations for Jonerys fics you should add to the list. First off, DolorousEdditor's "Our Choices Seal Our Fates" and "A Time for Dragons". He is the best at AUs, and he is among the best fic writers in the fandom. My man SerpentGuy's "Dragons of Ice and Fire" is among the most kudosed fics under the Jonerys tag, even though Jon and Dany haven't met yet after 800 pages. "A Bane of Blood" and my fic, "A Song for Dragons" both ask what would happen if Jon went to Essos.

thank you! i'll add these to my to-read list :) SerpentGuy's fic is already there actually lol

[indigenousandangry]

@doublehex 

You're really out here explaining "white imperialism" to Native women, right? That's what you're doing? 

Game of THrones fans are garbage.

Also LOL FOREVER AT ROMAN CONQUESTS LIKE THAT’S SO MUCH BETTER

[kaorym]

doublehex replied to your post “First Jonerys and now Sandry?”

And to say Jonerys makes zero sense is pretty stupid. George has been setting those two characters up since book 1!

Setting? How? Be more specific, please

[naomimakesart]

doublehex replied to your post “How do you respond to someone who is guilt tripping you about Patreon?”

Block em. You have every right to create an incentive for people to give you money. There is a limit to that, of course, but NSFW is not even close to that.

I think it may have been that they were confused about my Patreon process because they assumed (maybe because I am not posting as often) that ALL of my work was only on Patreon now, which is not true. I think there may also be a language barrier and the comment was phrased in a way that I felt a little guilty at first. After I explained to them I think they understood more what was going on because they haven’t responded. But that can always change haha

[lyannas]

doublehex replied to your post “i really do miss making original content and sharing it with y’all–...”

Make what you want! Quick, without thinking, what is the thing you love most about ASOIAF?

the little veins of hope that shine through all the darkness and difficulty. throughout the series that little light never quite goes away, no matter how dark it gets. even when that hope is childish and farfetched, it reminds us that many of these characters are in fact still children. there is jon clinging to the belief that bran is still alive despite what he has heard, arya’s reminder to herself that no matter what she becomes she knows that jon will always accept her, sansa building winterfell out of snow because she refuses to forget the home she had to abandon, daenerys still dreaming of a quiet life in the house with the red door, bran looking upon a burning winterfell and taking heart from it, telling himself that he was broken but not dead, just like winterfell. you see it in davos’s staunch belief in stannis, jaime’s awe of brienne, in tyrion’s self awareness that he can be better than what he has become. i love these little reminders that these are human characters with human hearts, and they can be foolish and hopeful even in the worst of times.