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#elain doesnt deserve to be claimed
haveihitanerve · 7 months
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i would like to point out- since many people tend to use this as a reason for why azriel and elain are meant to be together- recognizing someones power does not mean that they are destined to be together or that they are perfect.
beron was the one who realized luciens power. so did his brothers. they try at every turn to kill him. (except eris but that a different matter for a diff time)
rhys was the one who first noted nestas power
lucien and tamlin recognize feyres power
just because azriel is the one who recognizes elain is a seer does not mean he truly sees her.
we get an inside to luciens mind through feyre, when he comes to visit her in the library. his thoughts are about how shes so thin. and she needs to eat more. he has no bad thoughts aimed at her, not that i think azriel does but diff point again, and afterwards tells feyre she needs a healer. just to check. he has been through traumatic experiences before. he knows how mentally it can ruin you. he wants to help
when elain starts talking about the firebird, lucien offers help. he does not know her that well, she avoids him like the plague, but he asks feyre, her sister, if she needs something, if he can do anything. azriel cuts him off and says she does not need anything. then he says, we need.... a seer. he realizes what elains power is. yay. wow. good job bud! (no hate to az) lucien was concerned about elain. worried for her mentally and physical state. az was able to see from afar what her words meant, because he wasnt actually looking at her. he didnt truly see the gauntness, he cuts lucien off before he even realizes what elain needs, or if she needs something.
we learn in the bonus chapter az has a poor opinion of lucien. maybe because he is in love with elain, maybe because he was in love with mor, whatever the reason, he doesnt think highly of lucien. he didnt cut lucien off because he had a better idea of what elain needed, he cut him off because he didnt like lucien being the one to say it. (again not necessarily hate towards az)
literally just because az realized that elain was a seer does not mean he is meant to be hers. we can see/hear in the bonus chapter that az wants to claim elain. he believes he is entitled to her because lucien doesnt deserve her and his two brothers both have an archeron sister of their own. he does not deserve her just because no one else realized her power.
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dreaminginvelaris · 3 years
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I really don't understand how people can say Nesta didn't have to apologise
Like seriously????
And especially the thing about ic being shitty to Nesta like wtf?
Amren was good until she licked her ass and the moment she finally got tired of it she is hated
Mor tried and got slut shamed in return. How can anyone sympathize with people who show them the worst things they have suffered and finally overcame them
Azriel was always neutral never said anything to her
Rhys since the beginning, even though he didn't like her, never showed her any inclination of his dislike. In acomf, cassian says but Rhys kept his mouth shut, when nasty said she would slit his mate's throat he kept quite, when nasty slut shamed mor, he didn't call her out, when nesta changed her mind to attend the meeting he easily let her come and even gave her a nice proposal, when he said his pre war speech, he included both Elain and Nesta even though they didn't know them well, the entire acofas he had never showed any ill will for her except after she was brought to river house.
And especially the hate on feyre... goddddd!!!
Feyre should be patient, dude she left her alone for an entire year. The entire acowar she is trying to mend her relationship with Nesta and yet all she does is spit cruel words back at her. And the first time Feyre finally stood up for herself, not tolerating nesta's bull shit she is the bad characters. Like seriously???? In acofas she said "to say that to me: alright, but to say that to elain" like this line always hurts me. She has done everything to keep Nesta as luxuriously as possible and yet she is the bad person.
It was not the ic's duty to help Nesta even though feyre tried, elain tried, Cassian always pinned after her and u really can't expect mor to be all lovey dovey after she has seen how badly she treats her family.
Honestly, when they love Nesta for not taking anyone's bullshit, every other character would deserve the same. They really couldn't expect that ic would break their 5 centuries of friendship just because of her rude behaviour, even though in the end I think the only person who is completely loyal to Feyre is Mor.
first of all IM SO SORRY FOR TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER FORGIVE ME 😭😭😭
okay so i agree, claiming nesta didn't owe them an apology was absolute bullshit. claiming they all owed nesta an apology is even more pathetic.
nesta was absolutely horrible to them all when she first met them and the "they're fae thats why she doesnt like them" excuse is bullcrap. i understand being apprehensive, especially when you’re mortal and they're powerful as fuck, some wariness is literally expected. but when those same ppl prove over and over again that they will protect you and your beloved sister, whats with the attitude then? they never laid a finger on her, never spit cruel words to her the way she did with them. they fed and clothed and sheltered her; and her sister. at this point, nesta darling was just being a grade-A bitch bc she likes being cruel.
literally so many act like it was the IC who started the cruelness with nesta when thats so fucking false? legit rhysand cassian and azriel were all pretty fucking neutral in the beginning with nesta, even after knowing what nesta did to feyre. rhysand legit thanked them for their "hospitality", when nesta made feyre feel bad bc of fucking food, rhysand calmly explains why feyre cringed at the food (a reasonable fucking explanation btw) when nesta insults feyre, rhysand stays quiet, letting feyre be the one to stand up for herself.
even with cassian, like that mf didnt open his mouth until nesta was insulting feyre for no reason, which is the reason why he called her out on her sadistic bullshit. sorry but if i was cassian i would have done the same. maybe add in some colorful words and a bitch slap to the face.
the inner circle had no obligation to help nesta, and they only tried bc of feyre. but why would they want to be around someone who constantly makes her dislike of them obvious? idcthat nesta fought in the war, like okay so did a thousand others. and they all got reasonable compensations. they weren’t afforded the same luxury of being given money so they can drink and fuck themselves to death. why should nesta be given that privilege? oh right bc of feyre, bc everything she has is thanks to feyre.
i agree with mor, i mean shes legit watching this pos insult and hurt cassian who she loves and protects, and feyre, her newfound sister, friend, ofc shes gonna start being more protective and a bitch back. like yes queen !! honestly the ppl who cant realize why mor was being a bitch to nesta have me concerned bc like would you not protect your friends if someone like nesta was around? if not i feel sorry for their friends but not totally surprised.
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bowdawn · 3 years
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do you know why i dont ship e/riel? because if elain and a/riel were together and claimed they loved one another, the SECOND a/riel would find his mate (no matter how long they were together) he would drop elain like a hot potato without thinking TWICE
and then elain would have been rejected AGAIN because of another mating bond - it would be graysen all over again
elain doesnt need that bullshit again, so aaron better stay the fuck away from her
so sjm, no, im not interesting in elain having her sexual awakening with him! in the end both of them would be hurt and we knoooow elain deserves to get dick down by the fireANDsun-dick
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zoe-the-booklover · 3 years
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I feel like I need to explain something. So, I have noticed that a majority (almost all, basically) of my posts have been Gwynriel related, and a few Elucien posts. I feel like it is really easy to believe that I hate Elain (which I do not), simply because I hate the Elriel ship. I know I have reblogged a post explaining all the reasons to like Elain, but I also know that not everyone may have seen that post. Anyways, I know many Gwynriels hate Elain, but I want to clarify that I dont hate her, I just hate the Elriel ship (though I dont like that she wont give Lucien a chance, claiming she doesnt want a male, yet is all over Azriel). I respect your opinion if you are on Team Elriel, I just do not share that opinion. To me, I feel sick thinking about the possibility of Elriel being a thing, in my mind, they simply just dont fit well with each other. I actually quite like Elain, there are so many things we dont know about her, that are yet to be explored, that I personally cant wait to learn about. And I think that Elain+Lucien is *chefs kiss*. I like Elucien because I think they would be perfect for each other, when you really think about it. I just wanted to clarify that the reason I ship Gwynriel isnt because of any sort of hate towards Elain, I just genuinely love the thought of Gwyn and Az being together. Same with Elucien. I dont want her with Lucien so she wont be with Az, I like her with Lucien because I think they could be genuinely perfect for each other. Elain and Lucien could be such an amazing couple. I would never desire Elain to be with Lucien if I disliked her, I love Lucien. Also, Lucien is my baby (though let's be real, they are all my babies) and deserves happiness (and I want him to find that happiness with Elain).
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roguestarsailor · 4 years
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thoughts on a court of mist and fury *spoilers*
***** lots of spoilers folks *****
- MY GIRL FEYRE IS READING!! SHES READING LIKE REGULARLY AND CASUALLY IM SO PROUD
- RHYSAND MY LOVE I TAKE BACK ALL THE BAD THINGS I SAID IN BOOK ONE AND YOU ARE A BABY THAT NEEDS TO BE LOVED AND PROTECTED AND DESERVE PEACE AND QUIET AND MORE LOVE
- tamlin needs therapy like pronto; we dont stan a unsupportive partner and partner who is unwilling to share pain!! CANCEL TAMLIN 2020
- rhys popping up during the wedding scene was *chef’s kiss* and i noticed that he didn’t “claim” her as he said he would for like three months after everything. i suspect he was being a good person and literally letting her live her life. also for loving someone, tamlin was super chill and just kind of let her go??? idk i thought there would be more of a fight??? when feyre was literally like why are your claws retracting man?? fight for me??? hello??? but then again rhys is definitely more powerful than tamlin and probs some unspoken laws and such between high lords i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ anyways tamlin aint shit
- page 296-298! fucken shook me to my core. that self awareness, that confrontation, she identified the core of everything and it was such a turning point and im just so proud of her!!! She's recognizing her traumas and is healing!!!!!!!!!!
- yeah i immediately ship cassian and nesta; i hope she fucks shit up in the next book  😀 😀 😀 😀  
- maybe az and mor are truly the slowest of slow burns   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- i pictured pollution from good omens as how Amren is suppose to look like
- rhys is such a strong leader and im just -- baby deserves all the love. He's really good at plotting. He really made feyre learn all these things so they can nurture their love but also be a strategic advantage its interesting that even tho theres love there he still treats her like a weapon
- the joy in his rhys eyes when they winnowed into his regular ass town house that feels super lived in. and his friends banging on the door like he isn’t the feared night court high lord that he is. that was so refreshing to see that hes a regular person and not that high lord man who lives in a near empty mansion. he puts on a mask for everyone but he himself is just a regular fae.  
- reading about the peace that velaris was able to live through was beautiful. i imagined a city like san francisco with the hills and views of the ocean but kind of like the peace found in super small towns or cities in asia; maybe even some european cities (which is prob where this location is inspired by but i haven’t visited many euro cities). the scenes of ppl dining out, making art and music and just chilling is so lovely esp given our current pandemic. art is so treasured there and im like thats the epitome of a great society isn’t it? being able to do things because you just can without the pain of financial insecurity, civil unrest, etc. i definitely would love and die and for a society like that. its just so wonderful. i was filled w happiness while reading those scenes. :)
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- rhys and his inner circle taking feyre out into the town and just being casual. nobody treats them like theyre royalty or anything special. theyre just a regular group of friends who enjoy hanging out. its super nice and nostalgia inducing esp during this pandemic when friends are so far away and not like it used to be.
- when rhys immediately saw how under weight and dead freye looked when she was in spring court -- AND IT WAS THE FIRST THING HE SAID TO HER WHEN HE SAW HER THROUGH THE DOOR WHILE TAMLIN DIDNT FUCKEN NOTICE
- i also take back my frustrations in book 1 when freye always wondering around the grounds in spring court esp during calanmai. i thought it was because the author needed to move the story forward but its just freye. she doesnt sit still and now that shes w rhys, we are seeing soooooo many things about prythian and thats beautiful. tamlin was truly a hinderance huh
- rhys sent her music when she was in the cell in Under The Mountain which was found in velaris. maybe he wasnt risking a lot but he just showed her a glimpse of the forbidden world right under aramantha’s nose holy shit he saved her from destruction!
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- when rhys had his nightmare and feyre came to comfort him and kissed him on the cheeks and gave him such tenderness made my heart sing~
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- rhys is literally opposite of tamlin is soooo many ways. RHYS DID THINGS OUT OF LOVE, WHILE TAMLIN DID THINGS FOR LOVE. everything from how rhys made sure feyre can grow into who she is meant to be, to how he introduces her to his friends and how he interacts w everyone in his court, how he handles pain, everything is so different than tamlin. tamlin feels pain and just bulldoze over things, doesn’t think about how his actions are hurting others even as he is hurting. he doesn’t talk, he doesn’t share, he doesn’t try to get himself or feyre out of this misery and just sees threats everywhere and hits them. he was also supper passive honestly. no doubt hes riddled w guilt and grief but can’t figure out how to handle it so he uses feyre as his crutch where if he can “save” her he will be free smh
- rhys PAYS feyre!! HE GAVE HER FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE AND RESPECT FOR HER WORK!! THE INDEPENDENCE THAT TAMLIN DIDNT FUCKEN GIVE.
- THOSE NOTES THEY SEND TO EACH OTHER SINCE FREYE CAN READ AND WRITE NOW
- Ianthe was sus from the beginning!! i knew it!! although i did bet she was gonna sleep w tamlin on the side. But she's a lot worst so we don't like her either
- the throne room scene was steamy af this time its fine because there was ~consent~ and also because we see the dynamic and growth between the two and how they work together. this was great although I was kind of like pls get a room tho
- RHYS SMILING!!! FEYRE AND RHYS LAUGHING TOGETHER UGH I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
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- THEY ARE MATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FEYRE AND RHYS FOUND EACH OTHER AND HAD SO MANY SHARED TRAUMAS AND WORKED IT OUT TOGETHER AND GREW TOGETHER AND LEARNED ABOUT EACH OTHERS QUIRKS AND ITS JUST LOVE IN ITS PUREST FORM UGH THAT SCENE WHERE RHYS WAS CRYING AND FEYRE HEATED UP FOOD FOR THE BABY AHH MY HEARTTTTT  MY WHOLE ENTIRE HEARTTTTTT IS BURSTING WITH LOVEEEEEE
- LUCIEN AND ELAINE HOLY FUCK WHAT A LEFT FIELDER i hope this is the push that will propel lucien to defy tamlin. going back to the contrast between how tamlin vs his court and rhys vs his court, rhys has a group of unwavering loyal friends and are treated equally esp letting them joke around so much and it feels like a casual group of friends hanging out. tamlin has just as much loyalty from lucien but theres still a power structure that tamlin maintains. luciens words doesn’t have much weight whereas rhys’s friends do. both tamlin and rhys have so much power and sway and similarity in traumas and tragedy but both execute things completely differently. tamlin only wants to upload what he is familiar with, maybe what he thinks his father wants whereas rhys actively tries to think of something better, to change the system regardless of how hard it is.
- tamlin you dumbass. He didn't learn from amarantha. He again let his pride fuck over a bunch of other ppl. He shat on amarantha and fucked over his court. Now he fucked the rest of prythian and human world by bargaining w the king. Smh goodbye tamlin
- I straight up knew the queens were bad!!! I knew they had to be plotting something. The sixth is "ill" my ass.
- LADY OF THE NIGHT COURT LETS GO FEYRE AND WOOWW WE STAN A MAN BREAKING TRADITIONS AND SUPPORTING EQUALITY
- when hybern was destroying velaris. I WAS GONNA THROW HANDS BRO. I'm glad we saw the extend of how powerful feyre could be and how she was clever and we can really see how she's completely different from before. She has bite and fight in her and it's so refreshing!
- how about we let az and cassian live in peace. Those boys had to deal w the blunt of literally everything. from being the only shield in valeris to poison/hurt wings against the king, just beat up all the time 🥺
- suriel is their version of a wikipedia
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I read all 600 damn pages in like 2.5 days and I was loving it the entire time! My heart sored when feyre and Rhys were getting close and starting to break down their walls and really connect. This was a truly good enemies to lovers, slow burn tale and the drama is so great. There were good stakes that changes a character and their behavior and a good balance of action and excitement but at the same time so many little moments that let u see the character and how they interact w each other and the world. a lot of big plot moments, slice of life moments, a bit of romance and comedy. overall, an amazing book but super long. thus far this is my favorite book and im hoping the rest of the books can be just as charming and lovely but not too heart breaking. i hope rhys and feyre makes it. i cannot predict what to expect in the other books in the series (isn’t there gonna be 8 books total???) 
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