#eleceed pluton

[dark-night-hero]

An open letter to Kayden Break on chapter 316.

If anything... If anything happens to Kartien. I'm blaming it on you and will k*ll u mysellf :)

Also nutshell of chapter 316:

Pluton & Kartien: The fuck are you talking about.

Kayden: No need to get so frustrated, our plans busted anyway.

Pluton & Kartien: ?!?!?! FUCK U

Pluton with the Lava guy: Ah fuck this

Kartien with the metal girly: Shut the fuck off as if that bastard haven't pissed me enough

Kayden with Andrie: Yeah yeah, get cocky with me and die

[loveeleceedmen]

Snuggle time 🤓

[quasiquack666]

The last of my current theories/thoughts I posted on Ao3!

This one is a pretty simple analysis of Kartein's power level compared to Pluton and Kayden. Kartein is actually super OP

Ao3 version of OP Kartein

— Preface:

Although this is an argument for why Kartein is more overpowered than Kayden or Pluton, I DO acknowledge that Kayden is superior in Offense and Pluton is superior in Defense. I will not be arguing that Kartein would beat them in their specializations, because that is pointless. I am instead arguing that Kartein is the overpowered all-rounder, which I believe is more impressive.

— Categories/Rankings:

First let's cover Categories of power and how relative Rankings will be interpreted

Categories • Offense: Destructive capacity • Defense: Bodily fortification • Shielding: Protective barriers • Spatial Isolation: Dimensional segmentation • Healing: Bodily repair • Force Control: Power movement • Miscellaneous: Soundproofing, Information Gathering, other skills

All revealed Awakener skills can be used in one of these seven classifications. For this analysis, let’s consider these categories as fairly comprehensive for how Awakeners use power, out of the abilities currently shown (up to 291).

Rankings • 5 points: Top 10 level • 4 points: Top 50 / Grande level • 3 points: Top 100 / Ranker level • 2 points: Adult Awakener level • 1 point: Rookie Awakener level • 0 points: New/Baby Awakener level

The jump between average adult Awakeners and Top 100 is probably pretty large, but there are no canon references for Top 1000, Top Million, etc. So for the purpose of this analysis references will be cut off at the Top 100. Just keep in mind that these points have exponential growth differences between them.

— Offense:

Kartein: 4 points Kayden: 5 points Pluton: 4 points

Kartein’s Offensive ability is not shown comprehensively in the comic so far, however we do have hints to how powerful he is. Supri and Muse discuss Kartein’s combat ability, where Kartein is stated as a Top 50 Ranker (262). Kayden vouches for Kartein’s combat ability and says he is stronger than he seems (267). Kartein is not intimidated by three of Astra’s minions attacking him at the same time (267). So I ranked him as a solid 4 points, within the Top 50 Rankers.

Kayden is ranked as 5 points, since he beat a Top 10 at full power (274) and is therefore comparable to them in the Offense category. Even if Astra had a slight nerf with Kartein’s power interference (274), it’s still accurate to say Kayden beat a Top 10. Kayden also battled Andrei (260), which might not have been a tie if Kayden wasn’t teaching Jiwoo a skill, as acknowledged by Schnauder (261).

Pluton is ranked the same as Kartein here, since in lower levels he wouldn’t have much business being Kayden’s competitor in a fight, which Pluton says he is (277). Pluton is also explicitly stated to be in the Top 50 Rankers (277).

— Defense:

Kartein: 3.5 points Kayden: 3.5 points Pluton: 5 points

Kartein’s abilities with bodily Defense are not elaborated on. But he seems to be about average for other Top 50 Rankers, or maybe Top 100, in order to survive even one hit from Astra (272). I will be conservative and put him slightly under Top 50 with 3.5 points.

Meanwhile, when Kayden makes his body vulnerable like with the attack at Andrei (260), he actually seems to be about the same durability as Kartein against a Top 10. The major difference being that Kayden was still at decent power while fighting Andrei, meanwhile Kartein was already exhausted while taking those hits from Astra. Based on that factor, perhaps it could be argued that Kayden’s bodily Defense is even weaker than Kartein’s, but for now let’s rank the same.

For Pluton, he is stated to have Defense that might surpass the Top Ten (278). Pluton also says his Defense is second to none (284). So a ranking at 5 points seems best.

— Shielding:

Kartein: 4 points Kayden: 3 points Pluton: 3 points

In the World Awakened Academy arc, Kartein Shields a whole stadium of students and teachers (and most of the school grounds) from the shocks of Andrei and Kayden’s battle. Garris Luterain remarks that Kartein’s Shields are known to be strong (213). So Kartein’s Shields are likely solidly within the Top 50 level, so 4 points.

Kayden has only used a Shield once(?), when he protects Jiwoo from the shock of his initial attack on Andrei (258). Although that implies his Shield can withstand Top 10 level attacks, I think it’s important to note the area of the Shield is very small, only just enough to cover Jiwoo’s body. This is entirely unlike Kartein’s level of Shielding (and Spatial Isolation at the same time), which covered more than a whole stadium and protected dozens of people from Andrei and Kayden. So Kayden’s Shielding ability is almost certainly weaker than his Offensive abilities, and likely weaker than Kartein’s Shielding. But Kayden’s Shields are still good enough to protect once against a Top 10 Offensive shockwave, so that at least puts him in Top 100 Shielding.

Pluton’s 3 points comes from the assumption that his focus on Defensive ability might have made him invested in Shielding ability too. This assumption could easily be refuted in upcoming Pluton chapters, so his 3 points are shaky. But his Shielding is probably not drastically weaker or stronger than Kayden’s either.

— Spatial Isolation:

Kartein: 4 points Kayden: 4 points Pluton: 4 points

Kartein’s Spatial Isolation is compared to Fiord’s, where Fiord says Kartein’s Spatial Isolation was spread to cover a much broader space than his own (213), which seems like the whole World Awakened Academy. Garris Luterain also says that Kartein’s Shielding (and implied Spatial Isolation) is very mighty (213). So it seems fair to place Kartein’s Spatial Isolation at 4 points, solidly within the Top 50.

There are two main instances of Kayden’s Spatial Isolation, against Supil Kang (134) and Vatore (184). With Supil and Vatore, Kayden’s Spatial Isolation does not seem weaker than Kartein’s and covers several city blocks. Solid 4 points again.

Pluton’s Spatial Isolation seems to at least be able to cover a few buildings (290). We didn’t get a very good view of the scope of the Spatial Isolation relative to Kayden or Kartein’s though, but Pluton’s is probably comparable if we had a better angle. Plus, Pluton’s is likely at least as good as Kayden’s to participate in high level battles.

— Healing:

Kartein: 5 points Kayden: 2 points Pluton: 2 points

Ah, now here’s where Kartein really shines!

We have many examples of Kartein’s Healing. Kartein was able to Heal Jiwoo’s core (140), a feat considered impossible (138). When he heals Duri’s eye puncture/scratch (166). When he Heals Subin’s grandfather’s injuries that have existed for many years (228). Healing Kayden to temporary full power (273), even on extremely low energy himself. Yeah, very safe to say Kartein is a Top 10 level in Healing. 5 mega points.

Then Kayden and Pluton rank at 2 points because there is basically no indication that either of them have decent knowledge of Healing ability. Kayden said that he did what he could after Jiwoo was tortured (129), but that did not seem like a lot. Either way, 2 points might be generous if neither Pluton nor Kayden ever developed this ability.

— Force Control:

Kartein: 4.5 points Kayden: 4.5 points Pluton: 4.5 points

Kartein says his Force Control is not weaker than Kayden’s (139). The assumption being that his Healing Force Control specifically is not weaker, since no other power of Kartein’s seems drastically better than Kayden’s. And it’s already established that Kayden’s Offense ability is Top 10 tier, along with Kartein’s Healing ability and Pluton’s Defense ability.

In the end, the debate was between settling them at 5 points for their best Force Controls or not. But it might be slightly more fair to strike a balance between all of their abilities, so I settled on 4.5 points.

— Miscellaneous:

Kartein: 2 points Kayden: 2 points Pluton: 2 points

There’s not many examples of these sorts of powers to really rank here. So placing them all in the same category as any other adult Awakener seems fair enough.

— Final Ranking Points:

Total Possible: 35 points

Kartein: 27 points Kayden: 24 points Pluton: 24.5 points

Also note that throughout this analysis, I have provided possibly generous estimates for Pluton since he has much less reference material. But in order to be on par with Kayden or Kartein at all (which he is implied to be as a competitor of Kayden), I assumed he had similar capabilities in most categories.

— Other Non-Ability Arguments:

Age. Kartein and Kayden are likely around the same age, based on appearance and experience. Pluton I could argue is the same age, or older, based on his comment that Kayden followed his footsteps in challenging strong Awakeners (278). Which may imply that Pluton was there first, hence older.

Based on age, Kartein’s ranking points become even more impressive. He accomplished being a great Offense, best Healer, good Shielder, etc all in about the same amount of time that Kayden made it to the Top Ten as a primary Offense. So while Kayden only really has one specialization, Kartein is excellent in several other abilities within the same rough time period.

— Personal Rant:

Even while going through the comic remembering evidence for this rant, I was shocked and impressed by Kartein’s abilities. Because dayum boi, he’s slaying hard. Sure, I could have been biased with some of the above assessments since Kartein is my fave bb, but I’ll let y’all determine if I was overly biased, or if these numbers add up.

Kartein kicks ass. He truly must have hyperfixated the hell out of all this. (Drumbeats on that neurodivergent Kartein headcanon). That, or Kartein is the real super genius of this generation.

Either way, Kartein is an incredible all-rounder with many Awakened abilities and not only a great healer. Even if he is also the Best Healer <3

[eatsbop]

POV, you're Seo Jiwoo's neighbor.

A white haired guy is perched on your neighbor's roof 24/7. Sometimes the good natured kid of the house would leave cookies for him on the doorstep.

A guy with shiny black hair would sometimes dash outside chasing after birds. He looks sensible enough, cute even ahem uh, but he'd suddenly act shocked that he owns a pair of hands??

A very beautiful guy will answer the delivery service wearing designer clothes. He never steps a foot outside yet he's always dressed to the nines.

A really tall guy started living with them recently. He never wears shoes and has joined the neighborhood calisthenics group for senior folks.

[yuibangtanie]

the cat's grooming jisuk lol

the "i dont know why i teach him" squad is here for jiwoo 🥺

[maskedhoarder]

Okay so I was wrong but lmao 🤣😂🤣😂

[ismagulnitatay]

Jiwoo casually arriving with a big smile, but the presence behind him is in full contrast. LMAO.

RAAAGHHHHH, THEY ARE SO POWERFUL. THE PRESENCE IS OFF THE ROOF. I AM ON MY KNEES. I TELL YOU I SCREAMED MY ASS OFF WHEN THEY APPEARED.

Also, I need to flex this sassy babygirl because HE DESERVES TO BE FLEXED. SO FUCKING PRETTY, MAKES ME WANNA BEND HIM OVER, PLS.

[blue-howlite]

Look at them just stealing the show with their entrance (yes this post is to ramble about the recent chapters, get ready for a unhinged ride on the "Found family trope" rollercoaster).

People are like "Why are the best healer in the world and the guy that's always compared to Kayden here???" and they're just chilling being relatable, especially Kartein.

Them gathering around Jiwoo, not even trying to hide that they care about him. Like I would have expected Pluton to at least take a little distance and maybe judge Kayden and Kartein for being so close to him but he's just "Yes, I must stay close to this child."

Kayden and Kartein are so parent coded while Pluton is the socially unaware uncle that's just so out of it while taking in the practical aspects. He would absolutely teach Jiwoo how to properly stretch while Kayden and Kartein tell him to stop being so nice to everyone.

"Look at my son! ...proud is not the word I'm looking for" moment. Of course they're all super proud of Jiwoo. They can't stand the fact that he doesn't take advantage of the situation and has these moral/honor standards, but without that he would have never charmed these guys let's be for real now.

THEY'RE SO FAMILY CODED PLEASE JUDGING OTHER FAMILIES LIKE THEY'RE NOT A BUNCH OF LUNATICS THEMSELVES

The way Kayden leans towards Kartein like they're gossiping while Pluton listens in and gives his input to the convo, please they're a bunch of mothers talking shit about the other families at school.

The way they criticise Ian's education is the most parental thing I've ever seen.

The whole chapter was just Kartein being the sassy mother that worries about other kids disrespecting his, Kayden being the unhinged father that gossips and asks "Did you win?" whenever his kid gets into a fight at school, and Pluton the judging uncle that criticises his brother's parenting but joins sides with him when there are other parents.

Tell me that's not their dynamic.

Pluton always compared to Kayden and their "rivalry" being actually one sided is just so adult siblings coded, then Pluton going to Jiwoo like "Hey I'll show you something cool your dad hasn't taught you" is just uncle behaviour.

Kartein and Kayden not approving of Pluton doing what he wants and then realising they did the exact same thing is such a parent thing.

One thing is "They're such parental figures to Jiwoo", one is when they literally act like his parents even around other people.

[technobladebrainrot]

jiwoo vs his ability to collect dads

[theswordthatstabbedjouno]

Bro found out again poor man can’t get a break 😞

[dark-night-hero]

Eleceed 415 in a nutshell:

3 top ten: He's bluffing, hell nah he's bluffing.

Kayden: I'm fully recovered. Also, Pluton and Kartien! Now!

Pluton & Kartien: The fuck you mean now?!

[fireheartedpup]

Pluton being introduced to the cast is reminding me just how ridiculous it is that the main character's mentor spends 90% of his time in the body of a cat.

(From Eleceed)

[quasiquack666]

Chapter 304 thoughts!

(Screen readers pause now)

— What the heck is with Kayden this chapter? Immediately scapegoating Pluton? What a child. At least Pluton immediately countered, like "what the fuck is your bullshit, bitch". Seriously though, Kayden throwing a tantrum is painful. How is this man attractive? Head in hands

— The Kartein mute button immediately after was hilarious though.

— All of these grown ass 40+ men being dense after seeing Jiwoo 😭 Help, these men are soulmates 😭 Gestella needs a more emotionally competent person 😭 (Cough, your servant girl is right there hehe)

— Kartein is the cutest this chapter. The little paw beckoning Jiwoo to get healed, it's actually so adorable.

— WOLF HOWLS, SHIRT RIPS OFF! WE FINALLY HAVE A NAME FOR HER. MEI. HANDMAIDEN GIRL IS MEI!

— I love Blues' massive suitcase.

— Blues' reaction to that information is literally me. The wtf face. Because… Gestella doesn't even know Kayden 💀 Maybe this is my greyromantic ass talking but I'm sighing so much. This can't be the average alloromantic experience, right? (/joke) If so, I feel bad for y'all...

— Blues' head-in-hands scream is so relatable: "That bastard Kayden?!" He just became one of my favourite lackeys. Kayden is such a dumbass shit this chapter, Blues is right to doubt his own sanity.

— I love how canon just revealed that Mei is super attentive to Gestella though. Hehe. Makes me think of a fanfic where she has been suppressing her lesbian feelings for Gestella and is silently very sad. The Mei x Gestella ship needs to leave harbor soon now that she has a name! Screw the men, let me have my girlies!

Overall Impression:

Lol what the heck is happening these days.

I'll just take whatever joy I can suck out of these chapters and retreat to Delusional Island.

Feel free to hop on the raft HAHA

[eatsbop]

[yuibangtanie]

love seeing jiwoo protection squad playing with the kitties

this panel 😭

pluton is protecting jiwoo and he's so hot for that

[maskedhoarder]

I knew it 😹 Jiwoo's third papa cat soon 🫶😹