#exo sub unit

[trolagygirl2022]

My Masterlist

Last Updated: 28/10/2023

Readings I do

BTS

Jungkook's fs potential foreigner?

V's ideal Type

Guessing RM, Jimin and Suga's rising signs

Jungkook's future spouse

Jungkook's Birth Chart

RM future spouse potential foreigner?

Jungkook future spouse apperance

"Beyond the Story" reading

STRAY KIDS

Bang Chan's Birth Chart

Bang Chan's future spouse

Seungmin's ideal type

Bang Chan's future spouse (tarot)

Bang Chan's future spouse's appearance

Felix future spouse

Seungmin's future spouse

Hyunjin's future spouse

NCT (All sub-units)

Johnny's future spouse

Jaehyun's future spouse

Jaehyun's ideal type

BOYS PLANET

Jay Chang's Birth Chart

ZEROBASEONE

Zerobaseone's Debut Chart

Ricky Shen Birth Chart

Zhang Hao's Birth Chart

How do 4th gen boy groups and companies view Zb1?

EXO

Kai's ideal type

RUNEXT

Reading on RUNEXT

Which RUNEXT contestants will debut? (16/06/2023)

How likely will Jiwoo debut from RUNEXT (26/06/2023)

RUNEXT trainee in Baby Monster?

RUNEXT lineup by I and Knetz

Possible RUNEXT scandal?

KEP1ER

Huening Bahiyyih's Birth Chart

NEWJEANS

Danielle Birth Chart

Haerin's Birth Chart

NewJeans birth chart analysis

Guessing Hanni's Rising Sign

Danielle's ideal type

NMIXX

NMIXX Birth Chart

TXT

Yeonjun Ideal type

Beomgyu's future spouse

Soobin's future spouse

2023 Solar Return Chart

How successful will TXT's (ft. the Jonas Brother's) single be?

What do TXT think of fanwars

AESPA

Aespa Birth Chart reading

ENHYPEN

Jay's Ideal Type

Guessing Niki's rising sign

Jay's future spouse

Group Dynamic

Jake future spouse

TWICE

Jeongyeon's future spouse

IVE

Wonyoung's futures spouse

Wonyoung and Sunghoon's dynamic

Male and Female idol's perception of Wonyoung

ATEEZ

Seonghwa's Birth Chart

San's ideal type

SNSD

Yoona's future spouse

Is Jessica Jung in any contanct with SNSD members?

Why did Jessica Jung leave SNSD?

GIDLE

Yuqi's future spouse

CHOI YENA

Yena's thoughts on "Hate Rodrigo"

Olivia's thoughts on "Hate Rodrigo"

Olivia's thoughts on the song "Hate Rodrigo"

ADOR NEW BOY GROUP

Ador new boy group reading

Who will debut first? ADORNBG or ADORNGG?

ADOR NEW GIRL GROUP

Will Ador new girl group's concept be similar to NewJeans?

BABY MONSTER

Possible female trainee joining?

Age of the possible trainee joining Baby Monster

Possible Baby Monster scandal?

Baby Monster debut when?

YG delaying BM debut?

Possible trainee joining Baby Monster?

Will the potential new BM trainee be an ace?

BM's reputation: before and after debut

SHINee

General Taemin reading

BLACKPINK

Will Lisa leave YG?

Jisoo and Anh Bo-hyun synastry

Rose's view on the "Rose curse"

FIFTY FIFTY

What's going on with Fifty Fifty?

2NE1

2NE1 reading

SM NEW GG

SM new gg reading

Others:

Fame indicators in birth chart

Your Venus sign and what looks good on you Pt.1

Your Venus sign and what looks good on you Pt. 2

Appearance observations

Asteroid "Child" in the signs

Classroom and Astrology

Fame indicators in Kpop idols

Who will be more succesful: NEWJEANS, RUNEXT GG, or LE SSERAFIM

Will 2023 be the year of the boy groups?

How will Twitter's mismanagement affect kpop?

[writerblue275]

Songs that make me think of each Heartsteel member [and Alune] (with minimal explanation).

Inspiration: One of the things I do to inspire myself while writing is listen to music. I’ve always been musical (piano, viola, and singing) and music can really set my mood/make me think of a scenario. Occasionally when I’m just listening to music in my car, a song pops up and I’m like…"Oh that makes me think of (enter character here)!"

Genre: ?? I have absolutely no clue how to classify this?? Mood music??? Headcanon inspiration??

Category: I guess fluff, but some of these songs are indirectly or directly suggestive/explicit so 😬. But nothing explicit actually in this post.

Tw: None for this post besides swearing, but again some of these songs are directly or indirectly suggestive/explicit so listen at your own discretion. 🤷🏼‍♀️

(Each person gets at least 2 songs. Sett and Kayn get three because it's my post that's why. 😂)

Aphelios:

“Thnks fr th Mmrs” - Fall Out Boy (Lmao if you think I wouldn’t have some emo/alt for Phel on this list, you’re sorely mistaken.)

“Levitating” - Dua Lipa (“I got you, moonlight, you’re my, starlight…”💃)

Ezreal:

“Hey Mama!” - EXO-CBX (Did you really think I wouldn’t have Baekhyun for Ez in some way? Yeah fucking right! I associate him with my fav EXO sub-unit song.)

“Hyperfixations” - Catie Turner (I actually had this for Aphelios initially but then I realized it fit Ez WAY BETTER. I LOVE THIS SONG.)

Kayn:

“Met Him Last Night” - Demi Lovato (Feat. Ariana Grande) (All I have to say is listen to the lyrics, especially the first verse through the chorus, and tell me it’s not a fucking POV of meeting Kayn.)

“Gives You Hell” - The All-American Rejects (This is absolutely Kayn’s response to his old band.)

“S&M” - Rihanna (😏 Makes sense with one of my prior ranking/headcanons.)

(I have so many alternate options for Kayn omfg. I really struggled limiting it to only one more for him since I’m not doing that for most others. What does this say about me and my taste in music? 😂)

K’Sante:

“Physical” - Dual Lipa (Thought of our gym bro duo and then the lyrics made me think of K’Sante!)

“I’m Not Sorry” DEAN, Eric Bellinger (The confidence in the lyrics and then energy/vibe of the song just SCREAMED K’Sante to me!)

Sett:

“Confident (Rock Version)” - Demi Lovato (“…I’m the boss right now…” Damn straight Sett is the boss.)

“Watermelon Sugar” - Harry Styles (Again, makes sense with one of my previous rankings/headcanons.😏)

“34 + 35” - Ariana Grande (🫣 LISTEN I DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. 😅).

Yone:

“Black Swan” - BTS (What the lyrics talk about fit really well with Yone’s known backstory before Heartsteel.)

“Home” - Catie Turner (I just think it fits secretly soft and romantic Yone very well!)

EXTRA - Alune (because we love her and she’s a baddie):

“God is a Woman” - Ariana Grande (She sure is, especially when she has to be the manager of Heartsteel and deal with these six. 😂)

“%% (Eung Eung)” - Apink (the vibe of the song fits her well and I like the lyrics with Alune’s vibe too.)

Thanks for reading/vibing. I feel like I might have to do more of these. Maybe make it a series as I realize it's happening with more songs! Music is my biggest inspiration when I write.

[bwambiee]

who do you think is a bg stan 🤔

i’ve waited my whole life to answer this 🤕

i feel like isagi, kunigami, nagi, and reo would be lowkey kpop stan’s but they’d be the type to have grown up with it y’know? (kunigami most def has bc he has sisters, i bet you they went crazy with u-kiss, BAP, infinite, etc.. ) they love the classic older popular groups like big bang and exo, (and the groups i mentioned) they dabble in 3rd gen more than 4th gen so they were all bts stans before they got popular LOL, they can get into the 4th gen tho! (these guys know girls day’s something choreo to a T and are revluvs to their GRAVE)

I FEEL LIKE CHIGIRI AND NANASE + KARUSU AND EITA ARE BIG BG STANS like they def stan enhypen, seventeen, stray kids, nct, p1harmony… etc, they all have a secret playlist on spotify that only they see and it’s their kpop playlist bc they wanna appear as normies to the press but will NOT be afraid to bust out the choreography to nct’s kick it or enhypen’s drunk dazed. ( i headcanon that they all learned svt’s hot choreo for the fun of it when they were in the blue lock facility )

rin, shidou, barou, and raichi don’t listen to kpop as much but THEY LISTEN TO KRNB AND KHIPHOP, like i’m talking jay park (before he was an asshole… believe it or not but like way way waaaaay back like when jay park appeared in ryan higa’s yt video 😭 way back he had a justin timberlake vibe to him so i picture them listening to him before.. yk) artists like bobby, sik-k , zico , punchnelo , if we were to talk groups i’d say they all love ikon (who wouldn’t,,, I KNOW DAMN WELL THEY BLAST LOVE SCENARIO AND THEY ALL LEARNED THE BLING BLING CHOREO, rin practiced that shit in his room no lie) jooheon and I.M from monsta x are artists they blast in the car and they all have a cult dedicated to 3RACHA (matroshyka and the purge are this sub unit’s theme song HAHA) these guys also know mark’s rap from super M’s jopping i just know it.

this is long i’m so sorry

[exosongtournament]

Welcome to the EXO SONG TOURNAMENT

Where every single exo song will duke it out until only one remains!

We're here to find out once and for all WHICH exo song is the favorite of the fandom!

How it works:

For the first round, we're doing this in chronological order, as this feels easiest to me, and also so no single era can be wiped out in the first round.

The next rounds will pit the winner of the first poll against the winner of the last poll, winner of the second poll against second to last and so on until they've all squared off and we've crowned a winner!

I'll try to upload polls for one album a day (albums with an uneven number will have some polls with three options)

Some rules:

1. NO solos. We're going purely with EXOS discography. Unfortunately that means no sub-units either (maybe this should be the next tournament?)

2. I'm not distinguishing between the Korean and Mandarin versions, so just think of the one you prefer when you vote :)

3. Please be nice to each other. We're here to have fun! That said if anyone has strong opinions or propaganda, don't be afraid to voice them in the poll or in the askbox!

And with that out of the way, TIME TO POLL

[beautifulpersonpeach]

Sorry if you already said something, but do you have any thoughts on sm losing both baekhyun and now taemin as soloists? Is this snowballing likely to continue, and what do you see sm being in five years?

***

Hi Anon,

I've answered the question of where I see SM in 5 years here <- that's from about a month ago.

My view of Baekhyun and Taemin both jumping ship is that they were overdue. It was always a question of when not if. SM has a long, prolific history of bleeding talent and abusing their idols - that company is quite literally the worst offender among the Big3 just going by the number of lawsuits filed every 3 - 5 years from idols under their management. And this is aside the fact that SM is the only major company that compels their artists to sign 10-year contracts using a legal loophole, where the industry standard is 7 years. The reason SM's known practices aren't talked about more in fact, is because SM also has the largest amount of company stans in the wider k-pop fandom who strongly influence where scrutiny is placed.

And that reason is why even if this snowballs, it won't change anything dramatically for the company, because nobody is more committed to keeping illusion of SM's legacy/prestige alive more than fans of SM groups.

That said, based on debut dates, the group next up for contract negotiations is NCT. Because most of the founding members have promoted outside Korea (the legal loophole SM uses), this means they have 10-year contracts and so they'll only begin negotiations from the latter half of this year through 2026. As some of the members are due to enlist starting this year (Taeil, Jaehyun, Doyoung and Taeyong are the four oldest Korean members), it's assumed they are speedrunning negotiations ahead of that deadline, and it could be why we've seen solo and sub-unit projects for Taeil, Taeyong, Jaehyun and Doyoung in the last year. I'm highlighting those four in contrast to a member like Mark, who is easily NCT's most prominent member (alongside Taeyong) who still doesn't have a solo EP, and it's probably just a coincidence that he's Canadian and not up for military service. And so his negotiations can happen much later. Given the state of SM's dwindling idol portfolio and how they've been handling NCT so far, I expect almost all the members to re-sign (WayV is the wild card here), but I expect more bleeding from EXO and other legacy acts.

Anyway, I'm already rambling.

Baekhyun/Taemin have been associated with SM for a decade and that's not going to change even with them leaving the company, for two reasons:

They are still signed under SM for group activities.

SM stans won't relinquish that connection no matter how hard those idols attempt to rebrand their image. Like I've been saying, most fans of SM groups are actually company stans despite what they'll tell you.

So long as the make-up of k-pop fandoms remain dominated by SM stans, nothing is changing significantly for SM in this space in the next 5 years. Their new girl group will debut to much fan fare, Taemin and Baekhyun will continue being included in conversations about SM talent and influence, and SM company norms will continue as they have like every other time a high-profile talent has left their company - just fine.

The one caveat I didn't include in my prior post (linked above) but feel compelled to include now, is that the non-compete HYBE placed on Lee Sooman in 2023, expires in 2026. Given everything I've mentioned about how SM operates and the cult-like following LSM has both with his staff and k-pop stans generally, if he establishes a competing agency in the next 5 years, that could dramatically impact the life of SM Entertainment beyond any of the expected M&A scenarios I mentioned in point 3 of my linked post.

Overall, expect more of the same but there's a chance we get more fun times ahead. :)

[svthana]

Seventeen's Hana

Stage Name: Hana

Birth Name: Yang Hwayoung

English Name: Hana Yang

Position: Lead Dancer, Lead Vocalist

Birthday: December 17th, 1997

Zodiac: Sagittarius

Height: 173 cm (5'6")

Blood Type: B

MBTI: ENTJ (2019 - Taken by herself) / ISFP (2022 - Taken by the members)

Representative Emoji: ❄️

Nationality: Korean-Canadian

Sub-Unit: Performance Team

Face Claim: Miyeon ((G)-Idle)

Dance Claim: Jihyo (Twice)

Vocal Claim: Miyeon ((G)-Idle)

Fun Facts about Hana

- Born in Goyang, Ilsan, moved to Toronto, Canada when she was 4

- Former YG trainee

- Joined Pledis in 2013

- Nicknames: Winter Princess given by fans, Dul (Korean word for 2) given by '97 line, Hwayoungie given by Jeonghan

- Her dream besides being an idol is to be an artist

- She loves drawing and painting

- She's gone viral multiple times for buying Seventeen albums and posting her photocard pulls online

- She admires EXO's Baekhyun and Sehun

- Enjoys cooking and has told fans she takes culinary classes occassionally

Hana's masterlist.

[kpopmultifan]

Scheduled New Releases: June 2023 - Week 5

This list will continually be updated when MVs, iTunes/Apple Music, Spotify, & YouTube Music links & additional new release information becomes available.

8TURN - Uncharted Drift (2nd Mini-Album) Title Track: Excel [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 26th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

SHINee - HARD (8th Album) Title Track: HARD [MV] Release Date: June 26th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

24 o’clock - 4:ever (Digital Single) [MV] Release Date: June 26th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

Hi-Fi Un!corn - Over the Rainbow (Debut Digital Single) [MV Korean] [MV Japanese] Track: DoReMiFa-Soul [Performance Video - Korean] [Performance Video - Japanese] Release Date: June 26th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

FlowBack - Intersect (EP) Title Track: Intersect [MV] Track: Paper Plane [MV] Release Date: June 27th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

YENA - HATE XX (2nd Single Album) Title Track: Hate Rodrigo (feat. Yuqi of (G)I-DLE) [MV] Track: Wicked Love [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 27th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

Han Seungwoo (of VICTON) - Frame (3rd Mini-Album) Title Track: Dive Into [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 27th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

Sakurazaka46 - Start Over! (6th Single) [MV] Release Date: June 28th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

U-KISS - Play List (15th Anniversary Mini-Album) Title Track: The Wonderful Escape [MV] Title Track: Party Tonight [highlight medley] Release Date: June 28th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

Kim Sungkyu (of INFINITE) - 2023 S/S Collection (5th Mini-Album) Title Track: Small Talk [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 28th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

TVXQ! - Lime & Lemon (Japanese Single) [MV] Release Date: June 28th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

T5 (TREASURE Sub-Unit) - Move (Pre-Release Single) [MV] Release Date: June 28th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

SUPER★DRAGON - Reach the Sky (Digital Single) [MV] Release Date: June 28th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

ProducePandas - Koi Fish Bu Lu Lu (Pre-Release Single) [MV] Release Date: June 29th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

WEi - Love Pt.3: Eternally (6th Mini-Album) Title Track: Overdrive [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 29th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

EXO - Hear Me Out (Pre-Release Single) [MV] Release Date: June 30th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

XG - GRL GVNG (Pre-Release Single) [MV] Release Date: June 30th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

[lovesick-gxrls]

profile !

birth name . lee gaeun

stage name . gaeun

position . lead dancer, lead rapper, visual, maknae

super power . shadow manipulation

sub-unit . exo-k

birthday . july 26th 1997

age . 25 years old

star sign . leo

sexuality . bisexual

mbti . esfp

hometown . jeollanam, south korea

nationality . korean

height . 5 foot 4, 162 cm

languages . korean, english, mandarin

claims !

visual chaeyoung (fromis_9)

vocal minnie (g-idle)

rap jennie (blackpink)

dance yeji (itzy)

family !

older brother lee donghae (super junior )

trivia !

joined SM when she was 15 years old wanting to follow in her big brothers footsteps, she is one of the few idols to have passed the saturday audition

originally was in the line up for red velvet but last minute changed to exo and debuted with exo during the overdose era

she has acted in two dramas, ‘bad and crazy’ being her acting debut and then going to star in ‘my name’

she now lives with jongin after moving out of the dorms but used to share a room with jongdae

she studied fashion design at seoul university and now has her own brand of clothing called ‘w1cked’

gaeun m.list | masterlist

[a9saga]

I started typing this whole thing on mobile and couldn't figure out how to put a break in and I refuse to update the app. Fuck it. You are scrolling past this whole damn thing. Unfollow me. This is all I'm gonna be talking about for the next two weeks.

Exo needs to break up. They have needed to break up. That was my hot take I had been saying I'd eventually share but I never got around to it, and now it's a lot more apparent. Not that I thought this was going to happen. I thought that when I finally posted this, someone might be mad about it, but in wake of CBX's lawsuit I don't think anyone's going to be surprised to hear it.

I was sure exo members were done suing SM entertainment a long time ago. It's been 9 years since Kris and Luhan filed their lawsuits, both of whom won. It's been 8 years since Tao's hiatus, and almost 8 since he filed his lawsuit months later, which he ended up losing despite never rejoining exo. I became a fan of exo during Call Me Baby promotions when Tao was still dancing with a broken leg. I was 15 at the time, about to turn 16. EXO scandals were extremely fresh and ongoing. But those three are so far in the past now. Lay quietly decided not to renew recently, but he hadn't been able to appear with the group for 5 years so, yeah. No surprise. But I really thought it was all done when EXO-M was done for.

Well, I can tell you why I'd been thinking for a while EXO should break up. It's because they're really a thing of the past, and essentially after Love Shot, it felt like there was nowhere to go from there.

That felt like the last breath of their 5 year long prime. Don't get me wrong, it was awesome. EXO have hit after hit after hit, think of the absolute best most addictive song by your favorite pop artist, and EXO have a discography of mostly those. But they haven't grown and changed artistically or commercially as a group. They've been around 11 years, they're in their 30s now, and I don't even think most of them have the heart to revitalize their prime like Super Junior did after their military hiatus was over. Maybe a couple of them have it in them to do the pop star thing for their entire careers, but I didn't think that like, Sehun or Chanyeol were necessarily passionate about creating new music for the rest of their career. Chen has a family now and that's also something I'd like the rest of exo to afford without their huge commercial group getting in the way of that. The only one I felt for sure would not be done anytime soon was Baekhyun. I thought he'd be the new Kangta of the group, sticking around when EXO were dormant and fizzled out. I never thought SM would actually let them break up, like H.O.T did when I was a baby. But yeah, Baekhyun leaving shocks me the most. Not that I blame him. I do fully believe the allegations made in the lawsuit as SM have had such a shady reputation.

Looking at SM's pre-EXO boy groups, one might say EXO were the main successor to Super Junior, because, obviously, both groups debuted with 12 people. Large groups like that weren't really a thing in kpop before Super Junior debuted. Additionally, Han Geng of Suju was one of the first Chinese kpop idols. In 2008, two more Chinese members were added to the sub unit Super Junior-M, which released Mandarin versions of pre-existing and original Korean Super Junior songs. Hm, this sounds familiar. I only just built up a better case for the EXO/SJ argument. Diana and I talk about this sometimes though; I once made an argument that I think EXO was more a successor to TVXQ/DBSK (Tong Vfang Xien Qi/Dong Bang Shin Ki), which I would have forgotten saying if she never brought up that one time i said it ever again.

In July of 2009, JYJ threw the first brick at SM Entertainment I mean TVXQ's members Kim "Hero" Jaejoong, Park "Micky" Yoochun and Kim "Xiah" Junsu filed a lawsuit against SM for contract termination, claiming they had been coerced into slave contracts as minors. They were 22-23 at the time, TVXQ having debuted on December 26th, 2003. The three of them won the lawsuit, signed to C-Jes Entertainment and formed the new group, JYJ, of just the three of them. It was assumed the original five piece was dead by that point, but surprisingly, in 2010, Jung "U-Know" Yunho and Shim "Max" Changmin chose to stay at SM and continue TVXQ as a duo.

This whole thing is arguably the most significant scandal in the 30-year history of SM. TVXQ had been SM's biggest success to date and some argue they and Boa still are. Your faves wouldn't have cracked Japan without the efforts of those two, and if kpop didn't reach Japan in the early 2000s, the entertainment industry in a small East Asian country wouldn't have become huge across the entire planet---and frankly, if TVXQ hadn't been big internationally, they'd have been done for because SM had them blacklisted from Korean television for a decade.

Han Geng of Super Junior actually did file for contract termination shortly after JYJ did, also for mistreatment. As did Luhan, Tao and Kris as we've already acknowledged. But all four of them could move to the entertainment industry in China. Sure, you're always going to lose something by leaving as big a group as EXO, Super Junior or TVXQ, but SM hasn't been sued by its Korean idols since JYJ. Baekhyun, Xiumin and Chen know that they're putting at least as much on the line. And now, like TVXQ, more than half of EXO are no longer in the group, and the majority of the run for the both of them has had this cloud of mistreatment over their reputations. They were also both so unstoppably huge and popular.

I was in elementary school for DB5K's prime, and there were fans of kpop in the west but I can't tell you what their success across Asia looked like as someone who wasn't there. But I can tell you, between 2015-2016 when kpop gradually started to become very big, EXO for a time were bringing in more people to kpop than A Particularly Famous Group in the West I Have No Interest in Naming Because I Don't Want Their Fucking Fans Derailing My Post With Unrelated Discourse While I'm Not Even Talking About Them. Just believe me there was a time when EXO were way more popular in the west than Said Band I Decline to Specify, the eclipse that happened was gradual, and to my understanding EXO continued to be the biggest thing in Asia despite that another one eventually cracked America more and I'm not denying that they did. Point is, EXO coming first was important to all of that, because I and several others wouldnt have heard of the one kpop group if EXO didnt get us all into kpop first from 2013-15/16.

That all said now, this was all very much not how I'd wanted EXO to actually end. This is crashing and burning. Much like TVXQ, EXO is not going to be able to have a reunion after this, because they'll never receive SM's blessing to work together. I mean, EXO-M never would. 12 member EXO hardly lasted for two years though and their prime was very new when people started leaving, so to be honest, I don't know if the kids getting into EXO in the 2020s would really care to see Luhan, Tao, and Someone Sitting In Prison Whose Name I've Uttered More Than I'd Like To.

But in a similar vain, while DB5K originally split into two, JYJ are all off in different directions now. Yoochun was fired. Junsu left C-Jes and made his own label. Jaejoong did the same recently. Could you tell I listen TVXQ? But yeah, now that there are more than 3-4 people departed from EXO, they've got former members going in a lot of different directions. Someone already said it but I hope Xiumin follows Luhan back now. Back in my day Xiuhan were so cute.

Also, since I managed not to slip this into the post anywhere.... these guys have been showing up to work. Every damn day they've been showing up to work, that's another reason why it's so shocking. Chen dropped a song days ago and Baekhyun has been doing shows, posting dance practices, EXO have been appearing together for their 11th anniversary and supposed upcoming comeback. Whaaat a slap in the face. I support CBX 100% though and you should too.

[kpoptimeout]

K-Pop Debuts and Comebacks for the 3rd Week of July (Jul 10-Jul 16 2023)

Jul 10

EXO - Cream Soda

Top boy band EXO is back with their first album in 4 years!

ZEROBASEONE - In Bloom

Boys Planet winners debut as ZEROBASEONE in this bright and hopeful track!

Jul 11

NMIXX - Party O'Clock

Monster rookies NMIXX return in this fun summer track!

Jul 12

KOYOTE - WISH

90s co-ed legends KOYOTE return with a nostalgic bop!

ODD EYE CIRCLE - Air Force One

LOONA's sub-unit ODD EYE CIRCLE re-debuts as part of project ARTMS after leaving Blockberry Creative!

SANDARA PARK - FESTIVAL

2NE1's visual Dara is forever young in this refreshing jam featuring 90s queen Uhm Jung Hwa!

Jul 13

Yoon Ji Sung - SUMMER ISLAND

WANNA ONE's leader Yoon Ji Sung is back with a joyous song!

Jul 14

(G)I-DLE - I DO

Popular girl group (G)I-DLE releases an English track in collaboration with 88rising!

Jung Kook - Seven ft. Latto

BTS' maknae debuts solo in this smooth RnB performance!

Jul 15

UV - HeungBo

Comedy and music duo UV returns with an aggressive and traditional music-infused performance.

Jul 16

No releases.

What is your favourite song of the week?

[kaerimna]

Meet the Princess;

The name is Yoo Jimin also known by her stage name Karina, born on April, 11st 2000 at Ji-dong, Suwon-si, South Korea. She is a member of the South Korean girl group aespa and the female unit GOT the Beat. She define herself as a aespa's Rocket Puncher. Before debut with aespa Karina was active on Social Media and was a former ulzzang recruited by an SM casting manager and she became an SM trainee in 2016 She was a trainee for 4 years. In addition, before her debut with aespa. She appeared in Taemin's MV with the title 'Want', She also collaborated with Kai from EXO on Hyundai Company's Virtual Showcase. On October 27, 2020, S.M. Entertainment revealed Karina as the second member of aespa. A little TMI about her, she's a leader, main dancer, lead rapper, sub vocalist and also face of the group.

[exols-silver-christmas]

Watch Party!

So as part of this year's festivities I'd like to offer something new to help bring the community together! There is a free chrome extension that allows people to host watch parties on YouTube. What the extension does is it syncs playback and provides a chat box for anyone with the link.

I will be hosting weekly get together where you can stop in as you please. You do not have to be participating in the gift exchange to join the watch party! Estimated times are Saturdays at 7:30 pm EST and Wednesdays at 12:00 pm EST. Hopefully these times will allow the most people to attend. If your interested and these time do not work for you let me know and I'll see what I can do about adjusting them some.

Currently the plan is to watch the same video(s) both days so if you miss one you can always try to catch the second.

First up will be the Mvs in chronological order and next week will be the soloist and sub unit mvs. Future Playlists will include the full concert videos and Exo Next Door. I'll post the link Saturday 10 minutes til the start time.

[mysmorgasbordoffantabulosa]

I feel like Jimin is HYBE's darling. Their songs are always adjusted to his range. The way they promote him even just in bangtan bombs or other contents, he gets the most screentime. He gets a lot of lines in their songs, too.

And the DC gallery that involves some of their staff members consists of Jimin Akgaes plotting against taekook and Yoongi. If BTS collapse, they will only keep Jimin. Did you read that twitter post about an insider's exposé? Companies are involved in the artists smear campaign once they're hinting that they're not going to renew. It's a dirty business, dirtier than we've been discussing. And the explanation of that OP who works for idols' contracts is so similar to what's going on with Taehyung now. They're deliberately creating rumors to divide the fandom and for the artists to lose fans until they have no choice but to renew. They blacklist artists, so they'd be left jobless in the end. That's what happened to EXO, and remember what happened to GOT7? JB found a way to get rid of their contract. Darn! These greedy companies. That's why we just have to trust BTS. ARMYs are all they have, and Taehyung most especially, with everything that happened lately, we should be stronger and united than ever.

OK, I don't see it that way (regarding Brian), but OK.

Additionally, it's not companies but some employees who are involved in artists smears and DC Gallery.

No-one has hinted they're not gonna renew, so I don't get what you're on about. And if you're talking about blind items, that was fakes by solo stans and hardcore shippers.

I don't see Taekook upset or unhappy with the company, or being sidelined. They are not on slave contracts. I predict they and the other members will re-sign. And a sub-set of the fandom will still be butt hurt and cry fowl, that they've been forced into it...

Has this week not taught you anything... if they hate it they would leave.

HYBE is not SM or JYPE... Scooter Braun has no power, HYBE is HYBE they may be after massive profits, they may want to fleece fans... but I hate to break it to you... that's what a company is meant to do, build bigger profits for its shareholders, which BTS will also benefit from as shareholders.

[wongyuseok]

idk if you've done these already buut 9, 36 and 50 <3

Hi sofi!! 💜 I did 36 here and 50 here

9. which exo members would make the best sub-unit in your opinion?

In my wildly biased opinion, I'm not sure there's a bad combination of exo members for a subunit. But in saying that, I would personally LOVE to see a chingu line subunit. Not only do I think they would have a lot of fun with it, but you have baekhyun, chen, chanyeol and kyungsoo all in one unit?? Absolutely crazy (I say as though they are not already part of the same team). But I don't want ballads from them. Give me rnb.

send me an exo themed ask

[haesunflower]

Hi tee 🤗

How have you been? I had a marketing-related question in my mind for a bit but I don't know how to word correctly or if it even makes sense (I don't have an excuse, I live in a country where English is one of the two official languages so in conclusion, I'm just illiterate or don't know how to communicate).

I don't know much about the marketing field but if you were working on two "projects" or campaigns that were "competitors" to each other, how would you go on about it? I'm asking because Wakeone (W1) is managing ZB1 and survivors of the W1 trainee layoff and although it's not certain, I'm hoping they have plans to debut the three known survivors (lolol).

Like It's nice of them (referring to W1 trainees) to do covers or post pictures daily (for the time being) so they don't lost momentum but I don't know why but I feel like it's not enough for me 😂 I don't know if this is weird but at least for kpop groups that I will gladly throw my 💸 at, I much prefer watching behind the scenes content (applies to Boys Planet and ZB1; think Bangtan Bombs for BTS if you know about that), something like the Boys Planet Top 18 Pyjama party, or the W1 trainee live (I kid you not, I've watched that live three times with english subs...to be fair, I'm trying to learn Korean 💪). Anyways, apologies for the ramble but I'm also curious if you have any theories about this lolol.

Have a good one 🫶 Don't forget to take care of yourself 🌻

hey moni! this question got me excited, i pulled out my laptop to type my response hihi

long marketing/business ramble under the cut lol

honestly, i've been thinking of that too! I was pleasantly surprised to see wakeone promoting their korean trainees and keeping their presence online alive whilst preparing for ZB1's debut. I do agree that it would be nicer to have more personalized content for them - we're literally being fed crumbs with their cute little dance covers and photos and what not. Maybe something like The Boyz' Flower Snack? They had a pre-debut show where they served in a cafe.

Going back to the initial topic of working on two separate projects that are in competition to one another: it honestly seems like a conflict of interest at first. But, we have to remember that wakeone (legally) "owns" the wakeone trainees and has invested much more in their training. Whereas ZB1 members are not bound by a longer contract, and there was little to no investment in the training of these members (except Taerae of course) because training came from the members' respective companies.

Thus, it would make sense to keep their in-house talent like the korean wakeone trainees active and relevant for as long as possible - making sure the general public and star creators know that they're still in wakeone. This builds up anticipation and support for the company from the fandoms of wakeone trainees. I think it's no coincidence that they started posting more around the same time woongki and haruto announced their departure from the company. It seems that wakeone has no plans with them at all, so they did the sensible thing and just left.

Going back, keeping their in-house talent relevant is important NOW given that zb1 is actively preparing and documenting their debut journey. Because when zb1 disbands, wakeone's source of money will be their in-house talent.

On a marketing perspective, these two groups (should they debut at around the same time) MUST have two differentiating branding. This means they must target a different target audience, embody different concepts, and dominate in spaces where they would not conflict with one another. I honestly think a boy-group trio hasn't been popularized ever (unless it's a unit like exo-cbx or nct dojaejung), and I wonder if wakeone is going in this direction. If ZB1 gets a darker group concept, wakeone's in-house group should go the opposite direction.

However, it is also possible that they might be applying SM's strategy when it comes to company promotion. SM groups are uniquely distinct from one another. But do you ever notice how more than 1 SM group seems to promote at the same time as another SM group or soloist? Lee Sooman's previous strategy was like "I'll make my artists comeback at the same time so all the charts are dominated by SM. doesn't matter which SM artist you choose to support at that time, it won't matter, because SM artists will dominate all the charts". SM takes a "company" approach when it comes to dominating the market.

On a business level, I don't know if Wakeone is staffed well enough to handle another full functioning group ON TOP of their current workload with Kep1er. Thus, I think it would be smart for Wakeone to focus on the quality of their management, rather than the quantity of their groups. In short, they're not prepared for this type of artist expansion.

But as a phanbin voter :') i hope he gets to debut tho. I believe he'll make it big one day! hoping for his success and happiness

also hope you're doing well Moni <3 love conversations like this!! make sure to sleep well and eat all your meals mwah

[kpopmultifan]

Scheduled New Releases: June 2023 - Week 3

This list will continually be updated when MVs, iTunes/Apple Music, Spotify, & YouTube Music links & additional new release information becomes available.

VAV - Subcönscióus (7th Mini-Album) Title Track: Designer [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 12th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

EXO - Let Me In (Pre-Release Single) [MV] Release Date: June 12th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

Q6IX - C.C (Single) [MV] Release Date: June 12th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

Suzy - R.U.N (R U Next? Brand Song) (Digital Single) [Brand Film] Release Date: June 12th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

WEBER - 10/1 (10th Anniversary Album) Release Date: June 13th

THE BOYZ - Delicious (2nd Japanese Album) Title Track: Delicious [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 13th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

REN (formerly of NU’EST) - Ren-dezvous (Solo Debut Mini-Album) Title Track: Ready to Move [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 13th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

&TEAM - First Howling: We (2nd EP) Title Track: Firework [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 14th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

M!LK - Jewel (1st Major Album) Title Track: topaz [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 14th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

SixTONES - Kokkara (10th Single) [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 14th [yesasia] [cdjapan]

20th Century - For the People (Album) Title Track: Anata to [MV] Release Date: June 14th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

DKB - I Need Love (6th Mini-Album) Title Track: I Need Love [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 14th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

LUN8 - Continue? (Debut Mini-Album) Title Track: Voyager Title Track: Wild Heart [MV] [highlight medley] Release Date: June 15th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

MISAMO (TWICE sub-unit) - Marshmallow (Pre-Release Single) [MV] Release Date: June 16th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

ATEEZ - The World Ep.2: Outlaw (Mini-Album) Title Track: Bouncy (K-Hot Chili Peppers) [MV] Release Date: June 16th [Apple Music/iTunes] [Spotify] [YouTube Music]

ODDLORE - Coming Down (Digital Single) [MV] Release Date: June 16th