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#finn was in the prismo room when the lich made that wish
anthurak · 6 months
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The more that I’ve been looking through Adventure Time analysis posts and videos lately, the more I’ve started to get just a little tired of people asserting that Farmworld Finn or Fern are somehow ‘The Original Finn’ while the Finn we follow through the whole show somehow 'isn't' or something to that effect.
Like it all kind of reeks of people trying to make these super-dramatic ‘blow your mind’ hot-takes that ‘Did you KNOW that the Finn we know isn’t the TRUE Finn?! OH MY GOD DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND?!?!?’ or some such.
All the while when you actually think about it for a few minutes, particularly with what we know now about how Prismo’s wishes work, it’s pretty easy to see that really isn’t the case.
This isn’t some cloning or imposter/doppelganger situation where the Finn that ends the series somehow ‘replaced’ the ‘original’ Finn. These are branching timelines, meaning that ALL of the Finns we see are ‘the original’ in one way or another.
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Like Farmworld Finn, or rather the Finn who made the wish to create Farmworld, ISN’T ‘the true original’. He’s simply an off-shoot of the ‘Prime’ Finn that was created by Jake’s wish. Remember that Jake’s wish was to change the Lich’s wish to ‘I wish for Finn and Jake to go back to Ooo’. When that happened, Prismo essentially caused Finn’s existence to branch along with the Farmworld timeline at the moment Finn entered Primso’s time room: One Finn makes his wish and becomes Farmworld Finn, while the other is sent back to continue existing in the prime timeline.
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The Finn who went back to Ooo and who we’ve been following ever since ISN’T some ‘copy’. He lived the same life up to that moment that the Finn who created Farmworld did, because it WAS the SAME life, because they were the SAME PERSON. If anything, it is Farmworld Finn who is the ‘branch’ because of his wish, just as Farmworld as a whole is a branching timeline of the Ooo we know.
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And we know this happened, because we see the same thing happened with the Lich as a result of Jake’s wish: We see in Fionna and Cake that the Lich’s original wish still created its own universe and continues to exist with that Lich, just as what happened with Farmworld and the Finn who’s wish created it. So just as Jake’s wish allows Finn’s existence to continue on in the prime Ooo with a branching path creating Farmworld, so too does it allow the same with the Lich, who remains in Prismo’s time-room and would later become Sweet Pea. While a branch of the Lich exists in the lifeless Ooo created by their wish.
(As an aside, while writing this I actually had a fun idea of how Jake remembers his time hanging out with Prismo despite the Lich’s new wish sending Finn and Jake back to Ooo the moment they enter Prismo’s Room: The Lich’s wish didn’t specify WHICH Jake is sent back to Ooo. Therefore I think Prismo did a bit of monkey’s pawing. While the Finn who was sent back to Ooo was the one who just entered the time-room, the Jake who was sent back to Ooo was the one hung out with Prismo for a while and actually MADE the wish. Thereby allowing Jake to still hang out with and befriend Prismo.)
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And the funny thing is, if you think about it we actually see the same thing happen with Finn in Are You There. Essentially another ‘branch’ of Finn is created, albeit this time somewhat unintentionally on the part of Prismo. And unlike Farmworld Finn, this branch of Finn doesn’t have his own universe to inhabit, so he turns into the Finn Sword so he can still exist in the prime universe. Which actually kind of says something about just how warped and corrupted Fern was by the grass-curse that this ‘Finn’ could suddenly exist in a physical body.
But the point remains, BOTH of these Finns are JUST as much ‘The Original’ Finn as the other. It’s just that one became a sword and the other didn’t.
In conclusion, this Finn…
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…is in fact, the ORIGINAL Finn.
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So is this Finn.
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And so was this Finn…
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…until he made the wish that made him into this Finn.
Because they were all the SAME GUY. It’s just that the other two branched off in one way or another while the Finn we’ve been following from the beginning continued on.
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cecil-is-drowning · 7 months
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Fionna and Cake universe theory :3
So every universe they visit was created by a wish made in Prismo's room. The only wish we know is entirely canon is the one that created farmworld. The wish that the Lich never existed. But, they never actually revealed the other wishes, so what are they? That's what my theory is about so here's my entire list of every wish I think made the universes
1. Baby-verse my guess is that this universe was created by the wish that Finn and Jake never got old, never aged, and never had to leave each other, possibly made by Prismo right after Jake's death. So he created a world where that never had to happen at all.
2. The Vamp-world My personal theory is that Vamp-world was created by the wish that Petrigoff was healthy. Simon never finds the crown, and therefore never gets the chance to save Marcy from the vamp king with the crown. He dies due to the vamps, and marcy is found and taken in by the vampires.
3. The wasteland-verse This wish is hard to pin down, but my theory is that this universe was created by the wish that Finn never lost his arm . Now, why do I think this is the case? Because during the fight where Finn loses his arm, is also the fight where the lich gets babyfied (yes that's canon). However, we have seen that most universes created in the Prismo room usually get twisted, so my guess is that, in this universe. Finn doesn't fight for his father, but loses to the Lich, which wipes out all of humanity. There is also something to be said about the theory that Wasteland-verse wasn't created by a wish, but a lack of one. This universe was created when Finn and Jake were too late, and the lich's wish came true, which wiped out all of humanity. Which leads us to the universe where no humanity exists.
4. The final universe, the Winterking-verse This is the hardest one to pin down, I don't really have a strong theory, but I have a couple ideas.
4.1. This is the universe where Simon never finds the note that Betty left. He looks for the crown alone, he finds it, finds Marcy, but doesn't defend her to the end, and loses her while he's still sane. Which means that he never starts his redemption. Until he corrupts Bonnie and gets his memory back, with all the crushing grief from Marcy, he makes his own Marcy and escapes into his own personal world where he never has to lose her.
4.2. This is the world where Betty never went through the portal, and because they actually spent their lives together, they naturally grow apart because of the power issues and then the Marcy stuff happens (see theory 4.1) and he doesn't care about Betty because they broke up on pretty bad terms.
4.3 This was the universe where Simon was more cruel and vindictive. He abandons Marcy when she's too hard to care for, he ignores Betty for his quest for the crown. However once he gets his sane mind back, he misses the ones he abandoned, so he recreates the perfect world, where he has his Marcy and doesn't care about Betty. (this is really shakey I'm sorry)
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