#flatlanders

[rjalker]

purely from random osmosis, but if bill cipher was born with his eye on his "side" (facing upward in what Flatlanders call their inside), then he'd be blind as a Flatlander because we wouldn't be able to see within Flatland itself at all.

And also no one would even be aware that he has an eye to begin with, because it's literally outside their realm of perception. They'd think he was born without any eye and that he was literally just imagining anything he thought he could see.

[ID: A four way grid with the first row labeled "Bill Cipher apparently", first seen from above, as an equilateral triangle with a round eye in the center of his face, looking up and to the side. He is then seen from the side as a line with a half circle on top to show his eye, labeled, "Cannot see surroundings at all, cannot look in any direction except Up". from his eye radiate three lines to show his area of vision, with a zig-zag line in front of him to show where he cannot see. The second row is labeled, "Regular Flatlander", and shows another equilateral triangle, but this one has their eye on their perimeter at their top point. When they are shown from the side, they are labeled, "Can see surroundings, but cannot look Up", with three straight lines in front of their eye, which points to the size, and a zig-zag above them. End ID.]

So. If you're planning to write a crossover with Flatland where you want it to actually follow Flatland's worldbuilding, Bill should be blind while he's in Flatland. He'd have to navigate purely though touch and sound and would never see anything except whatever is above him.

Edit 3 hours later: also, he would have just starved to death as a baby unless there were some serious and immediate medical intervention, because Flatlander's eyes and their mouths are the same thing. So he'd have no way of eating anything.

So, he would also need the Flatland equivalent of a feeding tube for his whole life, unless he had some guardian angel in Spaceland who was feeding him from above.

[jozlyn-moon]

Bill and Conrad’s “Tapestries”!

[grim-fae]

[acrossdimension]

Spaceland (Region's of the 3d Axes)

This version of space land is much more dynamic than that of the movie. Since 3D Shapes don't have planet to inhabite they live there lives floting in space kinda like the flat landers but in volume. This way I'm able to create the different regions of the 3d Axes with much more liberty.

[vilqyzilpy]

this isn't art but here are our some thoughts we have on our version of flatland (note it was made at first just for us to see so we reference some personal things that may not make sense without context)

flatland (our version)

- whole plane is a fluid substance, flatlanders in suspension

- flatlanders resemble microscopic images of cells

- flatlanders are not true lines or shapes, but rather come close to shapes with a natural organicness to them, and are selectively bred to be as close to the shapes the higher classes desire

- flatlanders have one eye, on the 'face' of what they consider the front of themselves, usually an edge, the eye is semi 'inside' the body, surrounded by what looks akin to mandible feelers, usually they are kept open, functioning like an eyelid and a mouth. when they talk it's like blinking, and when they eat they can't see for the most part. the 'mandibles' also act as both a shield and a weapon, closing to protect the eye, and forming a hard surface, sharpness depending on the shape.

- around their eye is the openings to their throat/digestive system, which form two holes on either side, similar to a frog, when eating they can swallow to push "down" (south, or whatever direction is the equivalent) their eyes, moving food "down". the eyes are solid on the sides, which face inside and can't see in that direction due to the hard coverings, which form 'teeth', along with their 'mandibles' which have 'teeth' as well.

- Flatlanders, having a harder distinction in their dimension with sight, rely primarily on sound, touch, smell, and other possible senses (haven't thought of what yet, if anything more than those senses)

- flatlanders have developed sensory feelers at their front, which work as graspers/hands/fingers, they are somewhere around the 'mandibles'

- flatlanders have hard coverings on each point/edge (forgive us we forgot what the difference is, brain broken from all the dimension stuff lmao), forming protective and defensive natural armor, while their sides are more squishy and vulnerable, but less like skin and more a hard yet fragile surface that can squish.

- flatlanders have smaller feelers all around their body, like hairs, which get longer near the corners before the armor forms.

- flatlanders have 'tails', longer clusters of feelers evolved for locomotion, or the reverse, locamotion evolved into feelers, not sure which way around.

- flatlanders are not humans, but their own species evolved on an alien world

- flatlanders here are not as of risk at injuring or killing eachother, having evolved more sensory ways to manage their environment, but still follow the extremely oppressive system in the book, because of like human and irken society being corrupt.

- flatlanders still percieve things as lines, but they have more distinguishers, colors have always existed in this world, so "chromatisits" or whatever they're called didn't exist, or at least not a movement started with colors, perhaps something else.

- their world also is covered in a fog, that compared to the book covers much more of their planet at nearly all times, with only little spaces lacking fog.

- they have unique sound processing organs, that are similar to a bat's echolocation, and structures around their 'ears' derived from feelers to help with hearing.

- "women" & "men" or the concept of gender as it is equivalent to human's doesn't exist for flatlanders, instead just focusing on the shapes for hierarchy, tho lines are still treated the same.

- in some parts of the world the shapes like lines and triangles are seen more equal, or even greater than circles.

- like earth flatland has many different cultures, although flatland is much more oppressive of individuality and lack of conformity than current society.

- flatlander's are naturally cannibals, they do not require cannibalism to survive but it may have/is considered to have benefits, so when a flatlander dies they are consumed, for families if an parent dies they are given to the children, and criminals are either provided to the community or the higher classes, we aren't sure what determines this.

- irregulars are actually typically normal for their species, but sense they deviate from their ideals of shapes they are punished, often killed.

- higher classes have developed horrific methods to shape their offspring into the correct shapes, or even adults.

- flatlander's are naturally drawn to lights and shiny things, like moths and crows.

- flatlander "females" lines, are actually pretty different than other shapes, for they are similar to siphonophores, a colony of smaller organisms making up a whole, they can split but doing this for long can lead to death. Both 'lines' and all other shapes evolved from a similar in appearance ancestor to lines, but for whatever reason the rest of the 'shapes' evolved to different forms, in a way fusing the colony into one (mostly one) entity, while lines remained the same. the reason why is unknown but given the politics of flatland it could’ve been unnaturally selected to be this way.

- lines are not any more unintelligent than other shapes, but they do think differently, as in literally they have a physically different formed brain, being a shared conjunction of individual organisms. therefor they have more limited ability to store knowledge, and may experience emotions differently.

- things like the behaviors described by lines in the book, where they are considered erratic, violent, and other such demonizing descriptors are because of how society abuses lines, creating generational trauma with their lack of rights, leading to disordered behaviors, they are not naturally any "inferior" to other shapes.

[accessible-flatland-art]

Can you write some IDs for these Flatland tarot cards I made? Note: Hex is the Princess, (young)Puncto is the Stable Boy, the Ghost is from Pointland, and Pantocyclus is the Wizard.

[ID: A collection of four digital tarot cards based on the 2007 educational Flatland Movie. The first card is the Princess, showing Hex, an orange Hexagon girl, wearing a pink dress, with brown hair and a tiara. She has a large round eye and a slightly visible brain. She smiles, with sparkles in front of her. The next card is the Stable Boy, showing Puncto, a red Octogon boy, wearing a torn and dirty brown shirt, looking at the ground in dismay with a tear in his eye. The next card is the Ghost, with a flat tan background, and a single white point surrounded by a white four pointed star, showing the Monarch of Pointland. The last card is the Wizard, showing Pantocyclus, a purple circle, wearing a blue wizard robe and hat with yellow stars and moons, grinning evilly while holding a small pale orb. End ID.]

[accessible-flatland-art]

[ID: Two digital drawings showing A Sphere and A Square based on the 2007 Flatland film. The first has a texture like paper, and a background of blue grids like graph paper, and shows A Square, who is greyscale, sitting on A Sphere's hand, looking over at him with a smile, thinking, "I think I'm dying…". A Sphere has one hand lifted and is thinking, "Wowza! I'm so amazing!" as he looks off to the side with a grin. A Sphere is yellow with red eyes, and two arms. A Square is grey, with two thin arms and legs, and a tail with a tuft of fur on the end. The artists' signature of "Arrimorr" is in the bottom corner. The second drawing shows A Sphere now without arms, looking over at A Square with narrowed eyes and a frown thinking, "he wants to see my insides so bad it makes him look stupid", while A Square, now with visible simple insides, smiles at him. End ID.]

Watched Flatland yesterday 😭 what an insanely silly movie

[5teerpike]

A livable wage is an important issue to me that needs to be enabled and encouraged at the state level to pressure the federal government into progressive action.

[rjalker]

the "there's predators in the third dimension that would eat them so they have eyespots and bright poison colors to ward off predation" version.

Who would want to eat something that looks like this? *Nani voice* Standing there? Staring at you?

[ID: An MS Paint drawing of four original characters for the book Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions. Each is a different 2D shape, labeled with their name. Victor Nietra is a square, covered in a pink, orange, and green pattern with a single purple eye like a weird blobby fish looking up at the camera. He is in the top left corner of the image, looking down at the rest of the characters. From left to right, Billie Oakley is a Straight Line who is a very thin diamond shape, with two red eyespots, and stripes of black, green, orange, and purple. Next to her is her mother, Bernice Oakley, a longer Straight Line shaped like a long, uneven rectangle, with a single purple eye, and almost symetrical stripes of black, purple, green, and orange. Next to his wife Bernice is Frank Oakley, an Isosceles triangle with a similarly pink blobby shape with a single red-brown eyespot, with the pink blob surrounded by green and orange with flecks of white. End ID.]

[jozlyn-moon]

Lily and Liam

(The Cipher Twins)

Finished my updated drawings of the two twins along with their flatlander forms! Each also having their own prospective mind entities as well, Liam’s crisps (Crow Will-o-wisps) and Lily’s L1L-3s!

Both entities reside in each twins’ mindscape, there to protect their thoughts and memories from harm!

(As well as some doodles of em)

[accessible-flatland-art]

Plain text ID: A digital drawing of A Sphere and A Square from flatland. A Sphere holds A Square out in his palms, wearing a casual and amused expression. A Square looks worried and a little scared. They are outlined in bright red. The background is patterned with the Messiah Inc logo, with handwritten lyrics reading "Here we have a square" in the upper right and "smooth & inoffensive" in the bottom left, with stylized sparkles filling the empty space. End ID.]

this will be the basis for your revolution

[blabberoo]

What if,,

[torchtour]

can you tell i watched Ladd Ehlinger's Flatland (2007)

(i have yet to see this intepretation specifically on my dash but if you beat me to it im so sorry pls dont hurt me)

edit: ladd ehlinger is highkey not a cool dude if you want to watch the movie for whatever reason maybe find. alternative viewing platforms wink wink

[rjalker]

more public domain designs for the narrator, including lineart for you to color yourself.

[ID: A drawing of a black and white square against a dark grey background. The inside is covered in black lines with intricate swirls forming a shape almost like a butterfly. End ID.]

[ID: A black and white square, with a round eye in one corner, and complicated, 4-way symmetrical blob shapes on the inside. End ID.]

[ID: A square against a grey background, with a round eye at one corner behind a short beak. The inside has a thick outer edge and a wavy inside with a heart shape. End ID.]

[ID: A square against a grey background with a round eye and beak in one corner, with a simple round inside. End ID.]

[ID: A white-glowing square against a grey background, with a thick black outline and blank inside. End ID.]

[ID: A square with a bright red outside and a dark red inside, with scribbled blobby organs in shades of pink, red, and brown. End ID.]

[ID: A square with a medium blue outer section and darker blue inside, filled with blobby organs in shades of dark, desaturated purple, pink, orange, and yellow. End ID.]

[ID: The glowing square now bright goldinside, with a long orange tube of organs, with a beating red heart, and two blue blobs. There is a large glowing white eye on one corner with a small thin pupil. End ID.]

[accessible-flatland-art]

[ID: A seven panel comic, with colored lines against a deep blue background. Panel 1 shows a young Bill Cipher, a yellow Equilateral triangle whose eye is on his flat upper side rather than on his perimeter. He also has two tiny hands on the same side. Next to him is his mother, a blue Equilateral triangle with her eye on her perimeter, and scribbles to show her insides. Bill asks, "Mommy why is north north and south south the same". His mother responds, "Haha what do you mean sweet Billy? They are not the same". Panel 2 shows her continuing, "The north is where the rain comes from, and every one of us can feel the south". Panel 3 shows Bill's lines turn pink as a large red, "No" in all caps appears over his head as he glares with anger. His mother responds, "But you're still young, you might not be able to feel your south side yet". Panel 4 shows Bill trying to reach upward, saying, "North north where the white circles are!" His mother asks in confusion, "White circles? How do oyu know those are circles? You're 4. Billy, there's no way your sight recognition is--" She cuts herself off, and in Panel 5 demands, "You didn't touch a circle did you?!" Bill, looking panicked with tears in his eye, says, "Noo, I didn't I can't", then closes his eye in Panel 6 as he cries, "I can't touch! They just sit there!" His mother looks on in worry, thinking, "What are we going to do with you Billy?" Panel 7 zooms out to show a black void specked with stars, with Bill lying on his side looking upward from a white plane as his mother's thought continue, "And what are we doing wrong?". End ID.]

[jozlyn-moon]

Bill and Lily’s partial mindscape concepts!

Bill’s mindscape is based on the Fearamid, the walls being corrupt and crumbling while his memories are portrayed as stain glass windows both broken and whole.

Lily’s mindscape is inspired off of liminal spaces and dream/webcore. A space welcoming but eerie unlike her father’s.

(Liam’s is still in WIP as it’s based on the cabin they live in, but is similar to Stan’s from dreamscapers)