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the-final-sif · 2 months
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what is your opinion on the situation?
I've been at work all day so I haven't been able to sit down with stuff fully, it also seems like Caiti is planning to release a statement later today with more information I think? So I'd like to get her response there, but based on what I've seen so far I think I fall more on the side of "people made some dumb choices and should learn from them" than anything else.
Consent is messy and it gets messier when people start lying or are drunk. In this case, both Caiti and George were drunk. From what I understand, either Caiti had a 21+ wristband from the vidcon party, or her friend group did and assumed since she was drinking with them, she was also 21+.
Honestly, when it comes to the matter of underage drinking, I don't think it's even remotely fair to place blame on Dream/George for that. The blame there lies with Caiti deciding to drink while under 21, and on her friends, Ghostie and the other person present who were both over 21. Unlike Dream/George, both of them knew Caiti and knew exactly how old she was and were letting her drink. They were also letting her drink with no one sober and no one making sure she got home.
Now, Caiti is 18 and also I'm not a goddamn square, I'm not gonna stand here and be like "oh no drinking at 18 clutch my pearls" but like, if people are going to blame other people for that situation, that very much lies with Caiti's friends who knew they had an underage person drinking with them. I feel like people are weirdly assigning blame to Dream/George for not like, iding every person they hang out with (particularly if she had a 21+ bracelet at vidcon, which would mean she already got IDed). While completely avoiding placing any blame on the people who 100% knew they were taking an 18 year old drinking without a doubt.
Putting that aside, from my understanding George's side is he believed at the time that she was having fun, and the most they did was cuddle on a couch with other people there. He believed at the time that everything was cool, and that she later decided she was uncomfortable with what happened.
Honestly, I don't really think that's an unfair reading. At this same party, her best friend was there and from Ghostie's own words, she also didn't realize Caiti was uncomfortable until several months later when Caiti told her. If her best friend didn't notice she was uncomfortable or see anything wrong, then I find it hard to think anyone else would pick up on it.
There's certainly risks taken here that I wouldn't have taken. I think that George needs to do better with checking for consent and maybe vetting the people you're hanging out with. Although I also understand that doing a full background check on everyone you ever meet is an absurd requirement and if, at the time, they trusted the person that they actually invited, I get how that shit happens. Per consent, given that he was also drunk, I get how it may've appeared to him that he had consent. I do think it's still something to work on, but I'm also perfectly aware that in real life, people are often going off vibes and social cues, and sometimes those don't mash.
I also think that Caiti's friends have been pretty shitty throughout this. They take no responsibility for having let an 18 year old drink and then ditching her. They are absolutely milking drama out of this shit and they have a weird obsession with blaming Dream for shit he had no fault in.
As for Dream, I don't think he did anything wrong here. Full stop. If Caiti's best friend didn't notice that she was uncomfortable or unhappy, it's insanely unreasonable to expect Dream to have managed that. He was also drunk and hanging out with people, and he had no way of knowing Caiti was underage. None of that shit was his fault, and his statement seems very measured and reasonable. People are trying to blame him for things that he had absolutely no part in, and the UK group are absolutely trying to pull that shit.
Overall, sounds like several people involved made dumb choices, I hope they learn and grow. Otherwise all of this honestly sounds like shit that should've been talked out privately and not tossed to the internet for speculation. Human beings are messy and will fuck up sometimes. This feels like a case of miscommunication and people making risky choices that left people with some hurt.
Again, I may change my mind with further evidence presented, but that's how it feels to me.
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spacemilkbag · 3 months
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dnf + tumblr text posts part 3
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fooshbun · 5 months
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i have way too many pictures from the dream panel to share get ready ill do it one at a time mostly bc im still nervous and new lmfaoaoao
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dream is incredibly cute actually
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luminiciant · 11 months
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MINION
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rcnhide · 2 days
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gm happy 4 years to george streaming 💙🙌🏼
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dnfcliparchive · 2 years
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that soft dnf clip but now dream follows george around in real life<3
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veggieharumaki · 7 months
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DTIYS challenge from @georgenootfound! Thanks for hosting!
I feel like Dream would be the type to wear a sweater to the beach I feel it in my bones
Backstory: they all go on vacation but dream is cheesy af and wants to send postcards with his kids and makes Sapnap take the photo. then when dream is sending out cards Sapnap wants credit for taking the photo because he would do that. The end. Let the credits rollllllll
Way out of my comfort zone with drawing children, but super helpful! I wanted to do a family vibe piece but couldn’t decide what- what better than a DTIYS lol
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saturns-space · 11 months
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bros a frog kisser
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livingproofoftbd · 1 month
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dream: i wish iron golems got mad at you for breaking houses. that would be kind of cool
george: why dont you go work for minecraft
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jefferythejelly · 3 months
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"let's go get some boba tea🤠" "some booba tea" "yo quiero booba" "really?" "si" "i didn't think you liked that kind of thing"
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ghosttb0y · 2 years
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Alone Time <3
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tripping-sideways · 2 months
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Every time I go on Twitter a new CC is being exposed for being a horrible person, and I look into it and everything seems legit, and then I die a little inside.
I'm angry, I'm so angry that the world is like this. But I also need the former fans to know that if they fell for the masks these people put on its not their fault. Looking back things seem obvious but they often weren't at the time. Or we were too young or naive to see it. It's okay to forgive yourself. No one is omniscient.
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the-final-sif · 5 months
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Fine, I will say it: My main problem with the DNF-truting is that it goes hand in hand with people INSTISTING that Dream and George are Alpha and Omega (And I have seen people argue both ways on who is who, BTW!)
The idea that a ship NEEDS to consist of an alpha and omega is such a disturbing notion, and quite frankly: harmful! So many young fans grow up seeing all the big lovestories in Movies being depicted as almost only A/O relationships, and become disheartened (and yes, DEPRESSED) after they present as betas, thinking that a love like that is impossible for them.
Cant we as a fandom set a better example? The constant sluthing and truthing, trying to assign secondary genders to people who, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, might also be betas, and the idea, that DNF can only be real IF they are alpha and omega, is why I have honestly lost any intrest in the DNF side of the fandom -_-
I do agree with you that people shouldn't sterotype, but on the other hand we can't really say that dnf don't play into it sometimes. Some people also are just having fun, and I don't think we should be lumping people harassing others with people who are just having fun and speculating. Sometimes it's best to let people work their insanity out in mostly harmless ways you know?
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luminiciant · 11 months
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irl stream :D
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fooshbun · 5 months
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being front row for the dream panel was my superbowl and my roman empire i truly think about this at least 100000 times a day COME HOME TO ME PLEASE
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