#goji and goumi

[frogshipping]

I decided I'm gonna talk about Viti and Goku's hypothetical/AU/Alt timeline/whatever children, because apparently that's what my brain wants to focus on rn

So like I mentioned before, they have a set of twins--one boy and one girl. They would be the couple's only children, but they're both incredibly loved.

In the AU or timeline where Viti has the twins, she finds out she's expecting approximately 6 months after her and Goku get married (which would be about year 6 going into 7 of the 10 timeskip between the end of the Buu saga and the End of Z arc). It's a shock, because Viti didn't realize they were capable of getting pregnant; since they're technically a god. She didn't know if her body would even allow her to conceive, yet alone carry to term. But she manages it, and Goku is thrilled to welcome his new children. He swears to be there for these babies, in the way he couldn't be for Gohan and Goten, and keeps his word.

I would prefer for the twins to be named after Goku + Goku's masters, since technically both Gohan and Goten are, and I want all the Son kids to match (Gohan for grandpa Gohan, the -ten in Goten's name means heaven but kinda refers to Muten Roshi as well.) Which would mean the twins would be named Gorin (in honor of Korin) and Gomi (in honor of Kami), which are fine in english but I don't think they work in Japanese. I tried to research and find some kanji to translate into the names that could theoretically make sense, but idrk any Japanese and idk if the translations would make sense. I don't want to just throw shit at the wall uneducated. Also gomi directly translated means trash (while fitting since Viti's og universe is in homestuck /j) I don't want either kid to be named trash.

So instead I will be going with fruits for names! The boy will be called Goji (after goji berries), and the girl will be Goumi (to stay close to one of my original ideas + its also a type of berry so she'll match her twin.) The only thing about the name Goumi is that I can't get a straight answer on how to pronounce it (I heard goo-me, go-me, and goy-me). In my mind it's pronounced go-me so that it's close to her dad's name, but you guys read it however you want.

Goji and Goumi are very close siblings but they're kinda opposite each other. Goumi takes after Goku in many aspects, from hairstyle, to her bravery, to being kinda a menace like Kid Goku was. She's loud like her mom, likes to write, and is obsessed with animals in the same way. Goumi wants to marry Bra/Bulla when they grow up (Bra is only about 3 years older than the twins in this AU). Though she's not really into mushy stuff. She's ambitious and absolutely loves to fight, just like a typical saiyan. She started begging to learn martial arts by the age of 3. She's very good at figuring out her opponent's moves, and is a careful strategist (despite not being super thoughtful outside of battle). Goumi is very much a daddy's girl. She wants to be a hero just like him, and get strong just the way he has, and for the same reasons.

Goji and Goumi being half-saiyans are born with their tails. In the particular AU/timeline that they are born, Goku had come back from being dead for 7 years with his tail. So since he has his, he and Viti decide the kids can keep theirs until they're old enough to choose if they want them permanently removed. The family stays indoors the night of the full moon to prevent any Ozaru accidents, until the kids are big enough to start martial arts training. Vegeta helps Goji, Goumi, and even Goku gain control of themselves when in their primal form. They learn to utilize the body of the great ape to their advantage. This probably helps Goku get closer to achieving super saiyan 4 before the events of GT (which tbh probably don't happen in this AU). Vegeta also teaches them how to strengthen their tails so they aren't such a liability. Goji and Goumi will twine their tails together to stay connected, even as adults, it's something they did even in the womb (Viti has a framed ultrasound photo of them doing that on her bedroom wall).

Meanwhile Goji is a little more laid back. He starts as a nervous little kid but comes out of his shell when he begins learning how to fight. Then he shows more of his Goku side, friendly with all that he meets and naïve. He's more polite that Goumi, who's quick to spout whatever's on her mind, vs Goji who thinks before speaking. He got some people pleasing tendencies from Viti, and their love of music. Goji is also a romantic like his mom. He looks slightly more like Viti as well, with his hair being more windswept, and his eyes the same shade of green as theirs (though there's no symbol in his eyes). He really likes to work with his hands and is more of a defender when fighting than offensive. Even though he is a more careful in regular situations, he's the sort that will act before thinking in a fight, especially if someone he cares about is in danger. Goji also wants to be like his dad, merciful and kind, and a friend to everyone he meets (even if they start as an enemy). He seeks to get stronger, but to compete with his sister moreso than for the love of it. But he also wants to live a normal life in the future, believing he can handle being both earth's protector as well as regular person.

Goumi was born a few minutes before Goji, and believes herself to be his protector as a result. She defends him in every day life, and in turn, Goji is there to defend his sister in battle. Goji is Goumi's #1 supporter when it comes to her pursuing Bra's affections. Goumi roots for Goji whenever he attempts to make friends. Goji helps Goumi get closer to her dream of becoming the first female super saiyan (which she eventually succeedes at as a tween.) Goumi is more selective about food like their mom, so Goji is there to eat what she won't. They do definitely have some sort of twin connection, and will each go to the other when they sense their presence is needed. The pair can fuse together, their form being called "Goujimi".

Goji and Goumi are the youngest of the DBZ kids to be born (Trunks is oldest, then Goten, Bra, Pan, and finally the twins.) Still despite the age differences, all the kids get along and eventually become the next group of Z Fighters when the OGs get too old for it anymore. Goumi likes to argue with Trunks for the right to be considered leader of the group. But because he's got more battle knowledge and experience he's the defacto leader, even if he doesn't really care to be.

I think that's just about everything I have on the twins. Sometime soon I'll post some concept art of them. Hope you enjoyed reading!

[cybercomputerbeliever]

Just call me M! I'm a 21 year old man who loves domesticated, game and ornamental fowl, as well as growing edible gardens. You wont see much about it here, as i do not currently keep any but I also love koi and goldfish.

my favorite types of things to grow is exactly what other people aren't growing. i like to grow what makes people ask, "what is that" or "ive never tried it." I am in USDA hardiness zone 6b. My soil loves cucumbers and root vegetables.

I am a firm believer in trying any fruit, herb, vegetable or meat (that is safe of course...) because if i turn down trying it, I'll always regret not learning.

If i cant eat or steep it, im not very interested, though i do have a soft spot for climbing flowers and unique flowers.

My favorite fruits are in no particular order, cherimoya, melons (excluding watermelon), mulberry, passionfruit, lychee, and cucumber.

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My hens:

Lauretta: Plymouth Barred Rock. ~~ 5 or 6 years old.

Norma Jeane: white "Easter Egger". has muff and beard. ~~ 5 or 6 years old.

Unnamed chicks arriving june 17-19. 3 bantam easter eggers, 1 black sumatra, 1 polish crested.

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This year i am growing.... ( ☀️ = new plant, 🌙 = grown before, ⚡= failed in the past, retrying.)

Chive (I forget exactly what kind im growing. I planted it at least 6 or 7 years ago.)

Mizuna (☀️Japanese Pink, 🌙Early)

Melon (☀️Banana, 🌙Rich Sweetness 132, ⚡Sakata's Sweet, ☀️Vine Peach)

Kiwano ☀️

Winter Melon (Giant Bullet Head) ☀️

Cucumber (☀️Early Fortune, 🌙Lemon, 🌙Dragon's Egg)

Bitter Melon (Pearl Goya, Siamese)☀️

Goji (Scarlet)⚡

Fig (Chicago) ☀️

Hardy Kiwi (Issai)☀️

Grape (Catawba)🌙

Huckleberry (Chichiquelite)🌙

Turnip (Asuka Akane, Miyama)🌙

Beet (Albino)🌙

Butterfly Pea☀️

Sugar Snap Pea🌙

Chamomile 🌙

Lemongrass 🌙

Peppermint🌙

Oregano 🌙

Dill🌙

Strawberry (nearly 2 decades of crossbred berry haha.)🌙

Tomatoes (Currant, ☀️Spoon, ☀️Martino's Roma)

Gomphrena (⚡🌙Strawberry Fields, ☀️Buddy Purple. If self seeded, 🌙Salmon Pastel?)

Stevia, if my bush of it survived the winter. ☀️

And of course, potatoes

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In the future, I would like to grow....

Honeyberry

Mulberry

Jujube

Che

Teaberry / Wintergreen

Goumi

Maypop

Ginger

Tea

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I forage...

Purslane

Wood sorrel

Wild black raspberry

Common mullein

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Birds I would love to someday own... (Note that the pigeons are totally just a list of breeds i like, most im not set on, and am most likely to adopt from a rescue or local shelter or from ferals. I am not against breeding, but i am also not a breeder (yet?) and am not picky due to this. Also note i do not mean show quality for breeds who's highest standard causes significant quality of life issues.)

Giant runt pigeon (this is my most desired pigeon breed.)

Chinese owl or Old German Owl?

Classic old frill (Black Lace Blondinette?)

Homer (or any other pigeon) with a thick nose / wedge shaped head (i just think its cute) (also sometimes called "round" but that seems to imply small beaks often.)

Danzig Highflyer?

Fantail?

Frillback?

Coturnix quail

Any blue hen, bantam preferred

Red laced blue hen

Tollbunt polish

Mille Fleur d'Uccle

porcelain d'Uccle

Indio gigante

Dark brahma

Black copper maran

Flarry Eye Grey

Yamato Gunkei

Barbu de Watermael

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Graveyard:

Irene: 🪦Gold laced wyandotte (may have been mislabeled? had very thin build. Was growing spurs before the end.)

Ester: 🪦Easter egger (brown with muff+beard)

[ahedderick]

   One dead/dying evergreen and a berry bush that is trying to grow higher than the house. In previous years I pruned the tall bush, a goumi berry that I bought from a nursery that sells unusual fruit trees/bushes. As a source of edible fruit, I give it 2/10. The berries are abundant and the bush is healthy, but they have an astringent, mouth-puckering taste if they’re not PERFECTLY ripe. Much like persimmons that are ripe but not frost-cured. One slightly underripe berry popped in your mouth leaves a terrible taste and it lasts quite a while. Not sure who could ever be motivated enough to eat these that they’d sit down and scrutinize the exact shade of red for each single berry before eating them!

   The bush got a stay of execution, though, because I realized last summer that it was shading the side of the house substantially, and the temperature in that bedroom was much lower in the afternoons than it was before the bush got tall.

   Still kinda mad about the berries, though. It seems to be a common complaint. Fruit advertised in the US as a cool, delicious specialty from another part of the world (think goji, acai, etc) seems to regularly turn out to be a disappointment when grown here. The same applies to southern specialties, such as pecan or apricot, that are advertised as hardy enough for northern climates. They may survive the winter - but aren’t fruitful.

   I have tried goji; it’s a hardy, healthy bush but the berries taste straight-up rank and awful. Completely inedible. The goumi *can* be eaten, but as soon as you get a puckery one you wish you hadn’t. A friend grew hardy pecans - that never set nuts. My father bought a hardy apricot that - wasn’t quite hardy enough. (We’re zone 6, here, not nearly as cold as the actual northern states)  I tried several times to grow saskatoonberry, an Amalanchier species that does have a southern relative native to this area. The native species is a tree, so the berries are too high to harvest. The variety I planted was supposed to be a very fruitful, tall shrub, but they ALL died.

   I guess that gardeners and orchardists should try many things, but be prepared for some disappointments and keep good records about what worked and what didn’t!  A tall shrub on a western wall, however, is worth its weight in gold on a hot summer day.

[rosejoy22]

Spring Life

Upper deck of our yard, started hugelkulter from logs and twigs and composting leaves and kitchen waste, this year we retrieved rich organic soil from the bottom of one of the piles and started a third bin using HT (heat treated) pallets.  

Side view of rocky backyard slope, fenced in area, mulched last spring over fallen leaves.  

Comfrey a standing favorite, gets an early start.

Blackberries, goumi, goji, and so much more budding out and ready to bloom.   Honeyberry and quince and others blooming already.  Exciting to see the new growth and changes day to day.  Bonus fresh fruit.

Yellow violets one of the first flowers to emerge after heart shaped leaves unfold, in addition to purple ones.

Smiling faces invite you to the garden, hellebore transplanted from our kind, gardners’ yard up our street.  One of the few plants the deer leave alone, thank goodness for those few plants they dislike.  It’s toxic to mammals.

Potted some baby hellebores and put in our new five by five greenhouse, to get their true leaves before planting back in the ground.

Arugula grown from seed now flourishing in the ground outside.

German chamomile seedlings started earlier this year inside with grow lights--now in greenhouse -- divided into larger pots, stepped up, before planting in the ground.

Flat leaf parsley grown from seed, almost ready to plant outside.

Sea kale, Crambe maritima, perennial vegetable, looking forward to this plant addition.  Started from seed in homemade newspaper pots.

[mountainfigs]

May Fruit Developing

Clockwise from top left above: Goumi, Nanking Cherry, Goumi, Haskap, Blueberry, Asian Pear, Haskap, Goji, Peach (center that needs thinned). Clockwise below: Plum, blossoms, juneberry, juneberry, juneberry. Looks like the juneberries will ripen before June. Birds will make quick work of them. Some haskap will ripen before June. And possibly some goumi. Nanking cherry maybe mid June. Then…

[yougardener-it]

Le rarità di Dennis Botanic Collection

La grande novità di luglio è stata per noi accogliere su Yougardener.com l’esclusiva e curiosa collezione di Dennis. 

Specie uniche, esotiche, caratterizzate da sapori e profumi inconsueti, antichi, dimenticati. Ricercate in tutto il mondo e poi prodotte con sapienza qui in Italia, più precisamente a Dogliani (CN).

Tra le varietà disponibili (clicca qui per vedere la collezione completa) ne abbiamo scelte 5:

1) La bacca dei 5 sapori

Si racconta che assaporando questa strana bacca si percepisca un insieme di amaro, dolce, piccante, acido e salato (difficile da immaginare...). Il suo nome corretto è  Schisandra chinensis 'Sadova n°1', rampicante caducifoglie che si colora in modo molto decorativo grazie ai grappoli di frutti rossi che permangono sui rami anche dopo la caduta delle foglie. Da ricordare anche le proprietà antiossidanti, anti-infiammatorie e l’alto contenuto di vitamine A, C ed E. Per saperne di più, clicca qui.

2) Goji giallo

Impossibile non conoscere le miracolose bacche di Goji, in questo caso nella loro versione gialla, non meno ricca di proprietà. Il  Lycium barbarum 'Amber sweet' (questo il nome scientifico) viene dall’Himalaya ed è un arbusto molto resistente che cresce in modo veloce ma ordinato fino a raggiungere 2 o 3 metri d’altezza, regalando una delicata fioritura lilla a fine estate. Unica esigenza: esposizione al sole per garantire un’abbondante fruttificazione. Per saperne di più, clicca qui. 

3) Mirtillo rosa

Per stupire in giardino ed in cucina, una varietà di mirtillo ibridata negli Stati Uniti e molto apprezzata per l’insolito colore dei frutti. Come tutte le piante di mirtillo richiede un suolo acido e il sole non troppo forte. Scoprine tutte le caratteristiche cliccando qui.

4) Mini kiwi

Della stessa famiglia del kiwi comune, l’ Actinidia arguta 'Vitikiwi' è un rampicante abbastanza vigoroso e resistente con frutti curiosi: piccolissimi kiwi di circa 2,5cm di diametro con buccia liscia commestibile. Tutte le informazioni sono disponibili qui.

5) Goumi del Giappone Giallo

L’ Elaeagnus umbellata 'Fortunella' è un arbusto dalle mille qualità: si adatta a qualsiasi tipo di suolo e temperatura, è usato in zone marittime ma anche aree montane, persino come frangivento. Ha foglie particolari di un verde chiaro quasi grigiastro, fiori dal delicato profumo e soprattutto cascate di bacche gialle non solo molto decorative ma anche ricche di proprietà, vitamine, proteine, sali minerali e persino Omega 3 e Omega 6. Clicca qui per scoprire di più. 

Concludiamo ricordando che non tutti i prodotti della collezione sono sempre disponibili, seguendo la stagionalità delle specie e dei periodi di coltura.

Noi di Yougardener siamo molto felici di accogliere tra i nostri vivai quello di Dennis Botanic Collection, uno tra i più conosciuti e apprezzati in Italia. Potrete conoscere Dennis personalmente nelle più importanti mostre-mercato del settore, tra cui Yougardener Flower Show, la cui prossima edizione sarà a Varese il 12 e il 13 ottobre (save the date!).

[forestlarder]

Reddit list

Here are 60 ~semi/shade tolerant useful shrubs! Check that other site specific factors like hardiness, soil pH are suitable for the species. Some species merely tolerate shade while others need it to thrive. At equatorial latitudes even plants beneath crowded canopies receive plenty of energy from the sun.

Elaeagnus x ebbingei (evergreen)

Elaeagnus pungens (evergreen)

Alnus sinuata

Alnus viridis

Elaeagnus angustifolia

Elaeagnus glabra

Elaeagnus umbellata

Myrica californica

Myrica cerifera

Elaeagnus multiflora

Myrica pensylvanica

Jostaberry

Worcesterberry

Blackcurrant

Red currant & whitecurrant

Gooseberry

Blackberry

Raspberry

Japanese wineberry

Blueberries

Saskatoon

Chokeberries

Barberries

Plum yews

Flowering quince

Goumi

Fuschias

Salal

Juniper

Blue honeysuckle

Goji berry

Oregon grapes

Chilean guava

Trifoliate orange

Nanking cherry

Buffalo currant

Roses

Red elder

Caucasian whortleberry

Highbush cranberry

Chinkapin

European bladdernut

Yellow horn

Beech

American allspice

Mountain pepper

Bog myrtle

Bamboos

Japanese pepper

New Jersey tea

Lemonade bush

American elder

Broom

Dyer’s greenweed

Mock orange

Green alder

False indigo

Bush clover

Tree lupin

Russet buffalo berry

from WordPress https://forestlarder.com/2019/05/31/reddit-list/

[sutrasandcigarettes]

new year, deeper roots

the new year has arrived. after a busy christmas, and some much needed recouping the new year is sprouting into a good one. last year i took on a lot of new ‘agriculture’ ambitions. i expanded my home garden to grow more yield of vegetables. So many fresh tomatoes were added to salads, and bush beans were steamed with grilled chicken on a regular basis. i managed to grow carrots and even a single mystery squash and a tiny cucumber. along with the successes, every gardener also must deal with losses. my bell peppers never took off, and as per usual ‘easy to grow’ kale bolted and kept getting munched by some sort of bugs. probably aphids...

with a new year, comes new ambitions:

grow more vegetables! 

plan and plant my perennial garden

volunteer at the north saanich market

work the thursday summer markets for dan’s farm

have a much bigger role at fieldstone farm

also front and center will be heart & sow. my mom and i are rapidly preparing for our first seedy saturday on january 14 at the HCP gardens. i also have some plans formulating to do a plant sale and maybe a yoga/garden event with a dear friend.

today, a cold day in -5C january - i am reading up on permaculture gardens. inspiration for the new garden bed at keats st. i am trying to plan the garden so that there are natural ‘layers’ with larger more bulky plants in the back and smaller plants in the front. there are so many choices it is overwhelming. i will have to bring my list to show Elmarie at haliburton farm as i am sure she would give me some good advice. i have to be careful as there are large conifers in the overstory. so i must select plants that can tolerate filtered sunlight, and will not be too affected by falling pine needles.

 so far this is my plant list:

climbing plants near the fence: grape

shrubs for the back of the bed: hosta, artichoke, hollyhock, goumi or goji (small tree), fig (small tree), Chilean guava?

herbaceous layer middle of the bed: echinacea (cone flowers), good king henry (leafy green), sorrel (leafy green), comfrey (leafy green with flowers), lupin, roman chamomile (perennial type of chamomile), california poppy (annual though?), lavender

rhizomes/small plants/ground cover front of bed: strawberry, nodding onion, sage, mint (in a pot!)

[rosejoy22]

Summer Fun in the Garden

Our garden, just two years old, is doing well this year since we put up a fence around the back last July.  Many plants came back after the deer and groundhogs chomped on them.  I harvested honeyberries, goumi berries, red and black currents, raspberries and now blackberries.   A succession of fruits.  Chipmunks consumed the strawberries.  Goji berries now in bloom, fruit will come later.  Back in early July I harvested the garlic we planted, some outside the fence, since the deer don’t eat plants in the allium family.   Thank goodness there are plants they don’t eat.

Grape vines gradually strolling along the arbor we put up, along with other vines.  Vegetables are thriving despite the invasive jumping worm, I collect my urine and add it to the soil around them.  Perhaps it’s counterbalancing the harm the jumping worm is doing, consuming the composted material, nutrients, in the soil.  Kale, cucumbers, eggplant, tomatoes, beans are a few of the veggies.  

Fermenting cherry tomatoes from our bountiful harvests, simply tomatoes, sea salt, basil leaves and water.  

Gigantic amount of mulch now coats most of our property including up along the side of the yard and back.  Can’t forget the many herbs too— like oregano, lemon balm, lavender, mints, thyme, stinging nettle—an added bonus the deer don’t eat them.  I’ve been propagating some of the plants to put outside the fence, especially the herbs.

[ahedderick]

Permaculture and goji

  A quick note about permaculture. 

I have bought quite a few fruit trees and bushes over the years; some worked out for me and others were a total flop. Aside from the highly variable quality of the nurseries themselves, so many of the plants are not a good fit for my area . . and the catalogs are far more concerned with sales than getting the right plants to the right areas.

   I’m going to gripe a bit here about goji and goumi. With full knowledge that in a different region, with a different nursery supplying the plants the results might be much different! I bought both goji and goumi about 5 years ago. I read the info about how healthy and delicious they are, and wanted to try them out.

   Mistake! My first response should have been to check to see if they’re invasive in my area! As you should do any time you are planting something that is not a native to your area. So, acknowledging that I skipped a step, I did order and plant these two bushes. Both grew well and stayed healthy. Both started producing berries relatively quickly. Look how many goji berries I have! 

  They are. Completely. Inedible. Not too sour or bitter, mind you, but a horrible rank taste that no amount of sugar could ever cover. And when I went online looking for answers I found lots of them.

A) some bushes taste good and some taste lousy - you have to buy from the right supplier.

B) These are used for medicine in Asia, not as food - not really supposed to be eaten. 

C) They need to be frozen - or dried - or somehow treated before eating.

Which, if any of these answers is true? I have no idea. I just know I spent a couple of years tending a bush that grows berries even the birds won’t eat. Maybe the only real answer is to talk to someone in your area that does grow them successfully and do whatever they did. I just don’t have that option.

The goumi bush also makes tons of berries. They are somewhat edible. The trouble I find with them is that if a berry is even slightly underripe and you eat it, it has a terrible astringent flavor. You have to very, very carefully pick only the most perfectly ripe ones. And I’m not willing to be that careful! Also, while the flavor of the ripe ones is pretty good, they are yucky once cooked. Tasted to me like a hybrid of tomato and rhubarb. So, once again, I wished I had been able to try them before buying them. And ultimately I decided to stay away from the neato exotic fruits in the nursery catalogs entirely. I will stick with things that grow here naturally.

   The catalogs are so tempting when they come in the winter! And I have a hard time resisting their allure! I want saskatoon berries and seaberries and cloudberries! All kind of stuff my growing range isn’t right for. But I should probably try to remain thankful for raspberries, blackberries, wineberries, and ground cherries.