#greyjack has salt

[greyjackwatcher]

Hate it when ppl talk shit and trashtalk Shigaraki’s character development

[greyjackwatcher]

Me: okay i wanna reread chapter 353 so that i can make a post on it

Me: from where will i go and read this chapter

ME: FORGETS THE NEW SITE I FOUND AND GOES BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT HAD AWFUL TAKES(bc i always forget it and i am an idiot)

Me: goes to look at the comments like a goddamn moron

The comments: okay how about we show you how many points pass over our heads huh(in read below there are several comments that i angered me quite a bit bc holy s*** you completely miss out a whole lot of points that have been shown by the manga)

‘’Going a bit further, I always love to see the evolution of the main cast's abilities like the Devil Fruit Awakenings or Quirk Evolutions, I just wish this second war invoked some actual tension and drama, Deku is flying to reach the roof.. ahem... I mean Shigaraki, when I always thought these two would be so overly powered and wise that their battle would decide the fate of the world, but instead AFO has managed to infect the entire series and it just feels pointless for Shigaraki's character to endure a few things (because he's a spoiled brat) only to have the big bad be All Might's Enemy. Instead imagine if we only had Shigarki whose warped goals led him to challenging Deku to a series of battles, through trial and error he has built this new empire with blood, sweat, and tears. Shigaraki should be the big bad right now. It also might of been cool to see a fight between him and AFO. Prince versus the King, Master versus Apprentice for a battle of supremacy, I think he would of won so much respect from the fandom if he was like an underdog-type character that never gave up and endured huge amount's of adversity. Speaking of battles, if the only casualties of war are canon fodder then it doesn't feel realistic. ‘’

 ‘‘ In response to youre statement that shigaraki has become pointless, i half agree... shigaraki manipulated one of the top criminal organizations pre assimilation,rivaled gigantomachia pre assimilation, awakened his quirk preassimilation, underwent torture for months, and fought deku and all the heros before being fully assimilated. i think those are impressive accomplishments. I think calling shigaraki is a spoiled brat is a bit of an oversimplification of a homeless orphan raised by a psychopath. these are not excuses. his past is sad and his conclusion to destroy it all makes sense. the story of shigaraki is meant to be a tragedy and i agree he's better off dead at this stage. Saving" him mostly likely will mean putting him out of his misery. Shig isnt good by any measure but i still cant say hes complete evil like AFO AFO hijacking the story makes me hate him more and im ok with that. I think its really difficult to right an Evil character thats not ridiculous. AFO's motivation is simple and his intelligence and ruthless cunning make him intimidating more than his powers. His presence now feels like he stole the story away from everyone and i think thats how it should be. ‘‘

‘’Let me provide some clarifications, I agree with you comment by the way. I always though Deku was the MC because he said something like this is the story about how I becomes a great hero.My Villian Academia was brilliant and a breath of fresh air to see Shigaraki's journey with a very good backstory.

The reason I think Shigaraki is a spoiled brat is referring to AFO being his mentor and handing things down to him, however your point about his accomplishments which are very true, but remember during the first war his body wasn't 100% and AFO was able to take control of his mind in order to break himself out of prison. At some point, I just wanted Shigaraki to go his own way because there were some other people in the fandom that felt he was a spoiled brat too. It's like how long are you going to keep teaming up with this guy who wants to become a "Demon King" before you exit and take the throne for yourself?’’

‘’Everything you said about shiggy is what I've been saying for the longest hes wasted potential . Now hear me out my biggest problem with shiggy was that he hasn't earned ANYTHING. This whole story I could see him as nothing but AFO little puppet. Being handed everything and riding the coattails of other peoples ideologies, weapons and hardwork, stain, overhaul, and redestro.  Like you said if we could've seen shiggy and deku have a few more skirmishes throughout the story with shiggy winning a couple of those and slowly building the league's infamy without AFO influence then I could respect him alot more. Every criticism overhaul hit with was spot on especially the part about not using his allies well. Toga and compress could've been used to sow confusion and misdirection, dabi clearly is offensive fire power, twice could replenish the league's forces or have the clones do the dirty work shiggy has no excuse to have been dirt broke at the beginning of the MVA arc. He had great allies whom never been used to their full potential.

I know people are pissed about AFO being the big bad but that was foreshadowed way back during toga and dabis introduction when the doctor was skeptical of shiggys leadership and AFO said he has what it takes hes the next ME after all. Him and the doctor were always planning for afo to takeover shiggys body as a suitable vessel since all might completely wrecked AFO during their first fight.

If shiggy overcame various hurdles on his own Not relying on heroes to take down overhaul, had various victorys against deku and company by outsmarting them and using his allies to their strengths, and not reduced to squatting before the doctor found him and gave him a goalhe would be much better. And then like you said after the events of the first war we see there a power struggle between shiggy and AFO. Shiggy had overcome AFO'S control thru sheer will devours him in that mental plane afo still survives and shiggy has access to his intelligence and the 2 fight in the real world with shiggy winning and killing. And shiggy takes command of all remaining villains and having access to AFO'S intelligence becomes even more deadly than before.’’

Look, better meta writters have debunked many of your awful takes plus you miss on a whole lot of points if this is your views on Shigaraki by now. I honestly don’t know if i should laugh or be angry and disappointed with you.(in what way was he handed everything????)

ALSO

‘’Honestly Dabi was a missed opportunity. Great build up but the payoff was truly.... meh. It's good that Hori ended the fight quickly. He's not even interesting enough to kill off. ‘‘

‘’It's crazy cuz dabi only great moment in this entire story was his revealing endevours dirty laundry... that's it. Nothing else. Not only was his fight short  but he was the first villain to lose. I would be so pissed if I was a betting man would you honestly believe it if someone told you dabi would go down before toga or spinner?! ‘‘

‘’The fight not only felt forced, but it was anti-climactic as hell. I'm a bit disappointed it wasn't Endeavor and Todoroki fighting Dabi. Of course, Shouto's win has boosted the morale of those on the battlefield who give him props because what would a manga/anime be without an audience watching and fanboying out about each character's badass moment. This second war is falling kind of flat, hopefully Horikoshi has more to offer when Deku reach's the roof.. ahem... Shigaraki. ‘’

Okay genuine question, is this a take that circulates around, like legitimately is this an actual thinking by fans? Because that is so bullshit, is all that matters who is stronger, like seriously does it matter at all? The fight was just beautiful all the way up to the end. F*** it, either this day at noon or the next day i am gonna make a post about this

[greyjackwatcher]

God i hate the comment section from where i go read the chapters. Some of them have some truly rancid takes that piss me off every time i see them. Like every time i go to read a new chapter they all start throwing fits on how much they hate the LoV and shitting on them like godfucking damnit just drop the crap and admit you hate them, you misread everything according to your own biases and move over.

[greyjackwatcher]

Me: Okay i have seen the leaks of the new chapter 352 from my phone and the reactions of those i follow during work and they were just so fucking good so i wanna go and read the leaks myself

Me: Alright from where are you gonna read them from?

Me: From the old site that i used to read the chapters of bnha and the comment section was filled with villain haters

Me:....Why? Why are you willing to put yourself through that experience again, they are not gonna stop hating them.

Me; It seems that i am in a mood of masochism today and i just wanna laugh at that

Me: Well you are one weird mf so go ahead

Me: *goes there*

The comments(like some of them are just so stupid that you can’t even get mad at them)

Person No1:

‘’Once again Dabi projecting his insecurities onto shoto.  Just because you're immature and choose to walk a path of pettyness and self destruction doesn't mean shoto has to. So shoto puts an end to dabis suicidal temper tantrum by freezing them both saving dabi from burning himself to a crisp. Looks like we're going the whole spiderman no way home ending heal and save the villains from themselves so they don't end up dying by their own bad choices 😑.’’

Like dude holy shit what other choices did he have, seriously please tell me in full detail what were the other choices he could have taken by this point, jfc dude learn to understand in-character perspective. Also you seem to clearly forget that shouto was in fact on that path of pettiness and self-destruction, though in a much lesser extent pre and during sports festival, KNOW YOUR HISTORY BUDDY INSTEAD OF REMEMBERING ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REMEMBER. Also please learn the accurate meaning of temper tantrum before throwing such words around carelessly. I also see you being salty about spiderman nwh as if spiderman saving the villains wasn’t the best part of the movie that quite bluntly made me extremely like the movie so much, so i can clearly expect your reaction to the ending of the manga. I am gonna relish it. Also i don’t know about the projection of insecurities because better meta writers have analysed it and because i disagree just to spite you, plus i really wonder why i even waste my time with you given that all you do whenever i get to read the comments is bitch and complain and throw your hate about the LoV all the time, we get it you hate them, grow up and don’t make it a problem to all those that like them

‘’Damn horikoshi Rushing the hell out this story. This fight ended way to quick. ‘’

Nah dude the fight was absolutely perfect, you just wanted more slugfest and gladly hori didn’t deliver.

Person No2:

 ‘’Hmmm I hope the fight doesn’t end here otherwise it’ll be pretty underwhelming. Only way I can see this going is if Dabi just still fights to the end and well yeah that’s really the only way ‘’

...How about no? How about the fight ends here and the siblings get a happy moment, huh?

Person No3:

‘’don't think so, remember what the good old doctor saying that the only thing keeping Dabi alive was vengance and daddy issues?

Well, Dabi just died (I want to think) his organs must be screwed right now, was a walking hell Fire BBQ and not even recovery Girl can save him.’’

‘’I'm glad that endevour's sidekicks (specially Burnin) survived, I don't think Dabi is gonna live for much longer, his body is a total mess, his insides are ruined, he was an walking BBQ abomination, so don't worry ‘’

Man i have finally found the first person in the leaks saying that dabi is gonna die. At the very least it is just him, also be careful when you trust the doctor, he isn’t a reliable narrator.

Person No4:

‘’The fight between Shoto vs Touya ended in two chapters? Really? This is one of the most biggest dissapointing things I seen since I read MHA. The fight was anticlimatic and was mehhh. This is lame.

I guess I will be looking forward too seeing Deku,Uraraka and Endeavour fights than this,if this fighted ended as anticlimatic as this.

I doubt it will go the same direction as Aot. But MHA needs to do better with the final arc fights from the looks of it so far. Because If Shoto vs Touya just ended in two chapters this is one of the most underwhelming and anticlimatic fight I seen in the series. The hype didn t live up to it's expectation 

Nope this is final arc and Shoto vs Touya has been hype for a while this is far too anticlimatic and underwhelming to just end in two chapters. It's either rush writing or lazy writing. Horikoshi should just have made Shoto vs Touya in the last war arc no need to settle this at the final arc. What a waste of time.

Clearly you don t understand what is a concise story if you think Shoto vs Touya is satisfying to just end in two chapters no offense

That's not an excuse Horikoshi built the final battle for Deku amd allies vs Shiggy,AFO and his allies not just Deku,AFO and Shiggy.If its just about them only,this series should just end last war arc. This is the time to expand and develop on all the characters including the main characters,supporting characters and the villians and their fights. So far I am not seeing it.’’ 

I personally disagree with this because the fight was just wonderful and that the whole point was to help and save touya not beat the shit out of him, though i do agree that the characters could be a bit more developed though.

Person No5:

‘’wow almost like this was the main message of the story from the beginning. keep crying’‘

This was a response from someone to the no1′s first comment and was very satisfying to me imho, so bravo for saying something good to him because he deserves the shade. Also please don’t go insulting others okay? You lose your point when you start throwing insults.

So TLDR: This chapter was just awesome and with just some personal nitpicks, just perfect, stan Shouto for being one of the best characters in the whole manga and a true hero and have a nice day/night.

[greyjackwatcher]

While i am genuinely excited and interested to see what we will see in ch346, what i am definitely NOT ready for but sadly expecting is the shitfest that will inevitably ensue. I already remember the talks in the current chapter about how deku may get involved with ochako’s part of the story or even to finally secure izuocha as the endgame ship, which is an understandable concern even to me so i do get the complaints, i truly do, but please remember that toga only wants to ask the question she went on to ask to ochako during the war arc to deku as well, as she herself also stated back then. She already got her answer from ochako so she wants to ask izuku as well. Plus we already know from ch342 that they already had a talk about discussing the villains as people, even referring to themselves as the weird ones for that line of thought. So like, it tracks that they are gonna have to talk with a villain, which in this case, is Toga. Plus the fact that ochako has already answered her question, doesn’t mean that she can’t RETHINK what she said and find an answer. Horikoshi has also stated in jump festa that he has a moment for both ochako and toga, so i trust that he will pull it off well. However, the biggest problem won’t be the people i referred above. Oh no, this is the least problem. The worst problem will come from those that will start complaining about why is she being redeemed and that she has to pay and die for what she did and that the heroes should just kill her. I already have been seeing quite a lot of these people complaining already in this chapter about both izuku and ochako to ignore her bs and just tell her ‘‘begone thot’‘ and that she’s just annoying etc etc. And like i am between laughing and rolling my eyes so hard because you all, Horikoshi has already hinted that they will be redeemed. Shigaraki has been set to be redeemed ever since ch305, with izuku saying it himself, even finally being expressed by tomura in ch334. Shouto has been wanting to understand and talk with touya ever since the war arc, even dragging his father to actually do that together in the villain hunt arc and ochako has been thinking about her and her question ever since the war arc and even in her speech. Like, it’s not even subtle that this will happen, all it takes is to just look a little bit better at the text to get it. So next time you start throwing fits about ‘’rushed work’’, ‘’bad writing’’ and ‘’talk no jutsu’’, kindly remember that the hints were already there that this would happen, so you have no grounds to complain yourselves.

[greyjackwatcher]

You know who is best girl in a shonen manga when people continuously bitch about wanting her beaten down and dying in extremely violent ways while calling her annoying and insulting her fans.