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dantelionwishes · 5 years ago

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I saw @cryptidanaphafsi do something like this, and I wanted to try something similar!!

IM GONNA BE HARDCORE LOREDUMPING ABT EACH VERSION BELOW THE CUT.............

RUBY/SAPPHIRE: the og gameboy version where he didn’t have a name revealed back then!

1. RUBY ver.

he would be in a team Magma Costume, running towards the player directly to battle you

After the battle, Archie will come and drag him away from the player

The young boy will complain and say he wants to do cool evil stuff like his dad, Maxie

Archie will explain that the little boy is Maxie’s son, and that he’s taken charge of taking care of him because it’s too dangerous for a child to be part of the criminal organization

2. SAPPHIRE ver.

he would be in a team Aqua Costume, running towards the player directly to battle you

After the battle, Maxie will come and drag him away from the player

The young boy will complain and say he wants to do cool evil stuff like his dad, Archie

Maxie will explain that the little boy is Archie’s son, and that he’s taken charge of taking care of him because it’s too dangerous for a child to be part of the criminal organization

3. EMERALD ver.

He is not present in the Emerald Version! This is the canon story where the international police were in charge of keeping him because both his parents are criminals.

“ORAS”/DPP: technically the “canonverse” of the current poppy!

Technically, he’s the main character in the Diamond/Pearl/Platinum versions

Replaces Maylene (no hard feelings girl, it’s just because he’s the fighting-type gym leader!)

Story is still in the making/to be revealed! I’m still working on it ;^)

POKESPE: the manga is a wild ride, so this is gonna be a long one--

1. RUBY/SAPPHIRE arc

Ruby, at some point, encounters younger Poppy (unnamed during this arc), dressed in a Magma Costume who childishly challenges him to a battle before ignoring him

Sapphire, during a different time, encounters him as well but while wearing an Aqua Costume, also challenging her to a battle

Sapphire obviously wins and tries to get information out of him, but realises he’s just a kid playing around in a costume before letting him go

He cries about his loss and goes back to his dad, revealed to be Archie

He’s in Archie’s custody because, unlike Maxie, he’s posing as the director of Hoenn TV so it’s deemed “safer” for him to be with Archie

He’s seen again with Archie during the night Maxie challenges him to a battle

Maxie demands to give him back his son, while Archie retorts by saying that he’s HIS son, not Maxie’s

With a battle beginning, Archie tells his son to run away as far as he can, so that Maxie won’t get a chance to grab him while they battle

Maxie’s Pokémon stop him from running away, and their kid is forced to stay and watch his parents fight (he almost gets hurt, but both parents make sure they don’t accidentally hit him)

Both Archie and Maxie truce at the end of the battle, and Poppy is overjoyed to see both parents getting along

He’s excited to tag along with his family, but both Archie and Maxie firmly tell him that it’s too dangerous for him to join them

And until the end of the arc, both team leaders are busy with their evil plans lmao

Their son is last seen inside a police department, holding close both his Aqua and Magma costumes before a police officer (presumably Looker) walks up and tells him the bad news of their demise

2. EMERALD arc

He isn’t present during the Emerald Arc

This is the timeframe when Poppy was having his own little story in Sinnoh

Guile Hideout, however, mentions a certain someone he wishes he could see again

When Archie gets Jirachi, he starts off his wish with it being related to “wanting to see…” before changing his wish to getting Kygore

3. DIAMOND/PEARL arc

Poppy is a bit older, and is introduced beside Platinum, where both are playing together in the Veilstone Game Corner

It might come as a shock to the readers that his personality is different, and mentions nothing about Archie and Maxie

He is revealed to be the gym leader (albeit in training) in charge of Veilstone Gym

Poppy promptly forgets he and Platinum played together in the Game Corner (how forgetful he is becomes a comical joke the whole time)

After being defeated by Platinum, he is the last to resolve the Team Galactic conflict by the Veilstone Department Store

This causes him to want to fight Team Galactic for messing with his city

Diamond and Pearl find both Poppy and Cyrus at Celestic ruins

Cyrus is there to find information about the lake guardian trio, while Poppy is there to do the same (except for a specific lake guardian, Uxie)

Poppy confronts Cyrus for information both about team galactic and about the lake guardian

Although Cynthia comes to fight Cyrus, and Cyrus escapes, Poppy vows to track him down

All Sinnoh Gym Leaders show up in Spear Pillar, even Poppy, to defeat the Galactic Commanders and ambush Cyrus

They are all defeated, injured, and to be taken to a hospital, save for Poppy who is able to get up because of his conviction to see the Lake Guardian, Uxie

Because he is injured, this is the first we see of Poppy wearing his canon iconic bandages

Because Poppy was carrying Cyrus’ unconscious body, he is also hit by Giratina’s shadow force, taking him to the distortion world

4. PLATINUM arc

Honestly a super short arc

This is where the distortion world stuff happens

Cyrus and Diamond talk to each other here, but Poppy is elsewhere where the main characters find him together with Uxie and the two other lake guardians

If, at first, he was headstrong and stubborn into defeating anything in his path, this time he seems very distracted and rather absent-minded, even during the legendary whole battle

Before everyone escapes from the Distortion World, Poppy hears a voice and the portal closes before anyone could help him escape

4. ORAS arc

I haven’t actually been updated with POKESPE (I dont even know what happens in black and white) so I’m basing this off what i’ve read

Poppy shows up alongside Archie and Maxie, having both the Team Aqua and Magma logos on his hat

He seems to have remembered everything and fights beside both his fathers after remembering and finding them

He acts as their right-hand man, like a vice leader

The voices he heard while in the distortion world were from Maxie and Archie, which is why the three of them appear together

Poppy is desperate to keep both Archie and Maxie by his side once they start disappearing, begging them to stay

Both fathers ask their son to protect the planet in their favour before fading away

Despite being heartbroken over their forever disappearance, he sheds bittersweet tears that they were able to work together as a family before separating

#pokemon #pokemon rse #pokemon oras #pokespe #pokemon dpp #gymleadersona #gym leader poppy #pokemon ruby and sapphire #pokemon omega ruby #pokemon alpha sapphire #pokemon platinum #pokemon adventures #pokemon special #lionhe(art)

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alolatrainersemina · 8 years ago

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(Hardenshipping/SMA) A Pokespe Weird Creatures/Monsters AU Idea

A headcanon discussed with my friend :D

*yay first post! *just jotting stuff down *SMA just means that this is pokespe Maxie/Archie, whilst SAM is pokespe Archie/Maxie *spoilers for the entire pokespe RSE arc are all over the place; please proceed with caution *alternate spe ending involved

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So basically Archie is this sea monster creature with anemone/Nihilego-like white tentacles, but he keeps a human form and can hide the tentacles with his willpower. Being a sea creature also means that his sea/water related instincts, like navigating in the ocean and swimming, are stronger than others. Oh, and tentacles. They look and at most times are innocent (you can play with them *ahem*) but can also be very destructive.

Maxie is this Great Demon that can only be injured or killed by sacred Arceus things like holy water, blessed weapons, that kind of stuff. The basic requirement nowadays is to just avoid churches (sacred-ish places) and historic museums (where all the "sacred" things are stored now). If injured or killed by other methods, he'll just regenerate within minutes of time. He has a demon tail, wings, and horns that could release flames containing his own memories (i.e. memory lighter; plugging these spe settings in there right now). He can also manipulate flames to create mirages that affects sight (sorry Blaise).

The two of them start off as normal kids but realize that they're not human somewhere around their teens. Archie doesn't have anyone to trust in as he was growing up so he develops a calm and manipulative nature in order to protect himself. He tries to live off like a normal human. He does. On a side note, Archie has always had an interest in marine biology and ocean/water science related topics; it doesn't have anything to do with him being a sea monster but being one does help him a little as the affinity to water does exist. He forms Team Aqua sometime later in his adulthood. Everyone in Aqua thinks he's just a normal human that's kinda scary and strict. The grunts and the three admins are all human. Well, there might be a really minor grunt or two that's not.

Maxie hides his identity from the public too. Like Sea Monster! Archie's tentacles, demons can hide their horns, wings, and tail using will-power. Unlike Archie, he already finds some company during his teens, though, foes at first but friends after a fight or two later because he's the Great Demon and not just a regular demon so monster people are attracted by his aura or something.

(The Great Maxie used Great Demon Charm! The opponent monster has been captivated by his greatness! Would you like to nickname your new monster person? *no that's not what really happened*)

He gets to lead a bunch of people that secretly hide their monster-ness. As more and more monster people join along Maxie, he meets smaller demons Courtney, Tabitha and Blaise; this was probably when he was in his mid-twenties. Smaller demons can also use the memory and mirage flames (plugging these spe settings in again), but it takes a little more will-power and they regenerate slower. Somewhere around that time Maxie founded Team Magma, because now there's too many monster people around and they have to find a way to not look too suspicious, so why not just say we're this big secret organization thing that wants to expand land! (Maxie wants to do this anyway, being the land dork he is, and somehow convinces everyone that expanding the land and getting Groudon on their side will help.) They manage to design their uniform into demon-horned hoodies because it makes using will-power to hide their own demon horns easier. (I dunno, monster mechanics. Actually helps other monsters maintain a more human form too. Might be magic-cast hoodies.) ↑Spe has a lot of weird stuff (like the memory lighter and Guile's sword and armor), let's just add magical hoodies into the list too! It just works. I guess.

Then time passes, the RS chapter happens, Archie meets Maxie, and supposedly they develop an interesting relationship (*ahem*). And then stuff goes wrong, and the Sird Showdown happens. Archie unleashes his sea monster destructiveness on Maxie, revealing himself as not human thinking that this'll be over with anyways since it's him or Maxie, but to Archie's surprise Maxie doesn't budge at all when Archie proceeds to finish him. (The only thing Maxie tells Archie is to keep his Magma clothes.) Sird's like “this is interesting you are so much more evil than I thought!” and starts to do that voodoo thing shown in the Emerald chapter, when all of a sudden a Great (naked) Demon Maxie with horns and wings and his tail appears before Archie and behind Sird and goes "Guile Hideout sounds like a pretty badass name" (or, depending on when he revived, the line will vary - c'mon he's the Great Maxie he needs to show off), which shocks the other two people. (Whether it's the naked part or the "dear Arceus Maxie's not human" part...*and this is why you keep people's clothes*) Sird runs because it's just not wise to mess with what is apparently a demon even if you are a super cool and manipulative and evil villainess. Archie still has no clue what just happened. Maxie feels great because no more Orb Syndrome (you know, the haunting condition that plagues Spencer the old guy and Archie, mentioned in the Emerald chapter) after regeneration, and explains what he really is to Archie. (While getting dressed.) Archie is now kind of Guile and kind of not Guile; he hasn't gotten rid of the Orb Syndrome yet so he still has to be in that armor in order to sustain himself. Maxie reassures him that everything will be fine.

By the way everybody else recovers because Celebi is amazing to all the "good" people; the Three Fires are already reorganizing Team Magma. They still believe in Maxie because MAGMA IS FAMILY *no* (spe Magma feels like that though) Aqua on the other hand is thinking about disbanding. Archie has done some unthinkable stuff in RS after all, like betraying and dumping your admin into the sea *blame the spe author*

Meanwhile Maxie and armored Archie finds some discreet place to stay over the night (Great Demon Maxie used Flame Mirage! No one notices them). The two of them discuss futures and decides that they'll have to apologize to their team first about their plans to make the world a better place failing and destroying the world accidentally. Archie has to do a LOT of apologizing because of what he's done in the RS chapter. And then they'll figure out how to rid Archie of his Orb Syndrome. They also manage to blurt about their lives hiding the fact that they're not human and sympathize with each other.

And then they go through it all, Emerald chapter still happens because Archie needs Jirachi to recover. But instead of Guile Archie wrecking everything and summoning a demonic Kyogre, Sird does all the bad things secretly and frames Archie (FOR EVIL! *I'm sorry Sird fans*). Archie and Maxie and the entire Magma team's monster identities also gets revealed in the process - it was done to make them look really bad - and everyone is mind blown and falls for it for a moment. But Magma and Aqua have been doing good things contributing to the world lately; they decided to reform. So the kids believe that they mean no harm and ask them to be one their side; Sird has stirred some problems in the Battle Frontier secretly and now it’s affecting everyone. Archie and Maxie, along with the others, sort out whatever mess Sird was making to prove a point. Everything works out in the end and Archie recovers, (the protags get their wish too), the world is not destroyed, happy endings for everyone!

↑That's most of it.

Thoughts: This was such a long drabble… I’m sorry if you got here and had to read that much > < I hope you liked it. I really disliked the spe RSE ending with the whole “make Maxie and Archie super evil for no reason and then let them die” plot. The whole build up to it was just horrible - they weren’t like this in the original games - and my friend thought so too, so the two of us kinda made up an alternate ending where stuff does work out while adding some special touches to it. The main goal was to not let Maxie die when they fought for the armor and the sword. Archie would’ve been so much less crazier if Maxie haven’t died, even without the hardenshipping/weird creature settings. (cue Archie’s flashback in Emerald chapter) Having both of them alive also wrecks Sird’s plan in a sense that they failed to achieve "the full evil” that Sird wanted them to have. We need more happy endings with villains in pokespe ahhhhh this is why headcanons exist right? Gotta fix ‘em up!! I’ll probably come up with more cute things pertinent to this AU (this counts as an alternate universe, right?) sometime in the future; thanks again for reading all this! ;O

#pokemon #pokespe #maxie #archie #magma leader maxie #aqua leader archie #hardenshipping #weird creatures au #brainholes

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