#heathersstuck

[jasondean]

i'm sending you the first thing i thought of when i tried to think of an ask to send you. so. here's this cursed thing. heathersstuck.

ohhh my god okay first of all im gonna preemptively apologize for how long this is about to be. 

another disclaimer that this is all gonna be based on my knowledge of the alternia that we see in homestuck itself because i havent gotten super into hiveswap yet. and, as we all know, any good homestuck au is one where the contending canon is thrust into the homestuck universe as opposed to the other way around. so im gonna spare everyone the painful ideation of plucking a small handful from the VAST homestuck cast just to put them into the plot of heathers

im ALSO gonna preface that im thinking about the heathers film while writing this, not the musical. and im not gonna go into anything regarding martha, betty, kurt, or ram because i think focusing on the main cast is enough for right now lol. 

anyway, potential positions in the blood caste system as well as god tier assignments under the cut!  

so ive definitely thought about this on several occasions and ive seen some heatherstuck content where the heathers are trolls right. the thing is, the color symbolism from both media dont line up. and the heathers being drawn to keep their original colors just doesnt work out with the hemospectrum. like no way is heather chandler a red blood or mutant blood (imo itd make sense for jd to have mutant blood). the heathers being red, yellow, and green blooded would just make them a group of lowbloods and that doesnt fit with the power structure depicted in either canon. 

heather chandler would absolutely have fuchsia blood! i couldnt imagine it any other way. duke could maybe get away with being jade blooded because thatd put her in the midblood range but also what does that leave for mcnamara? i dont really have a good answer for that right now but - 

the heathers themselves aside, veronica would actually be pretty well suited for being some kind of blueblood (teal or cerulean maybe?) veronica being blue blooded would put her in a position of enough privilege to be taken under chandlers wing but also not privileged enough to naturally be at the top. 

jd would probably be rust or mutant blooded. but its also fun to consider: purple blood? since those in that blood class are more susceptible to becoming more ..unhinged. however, i personally favor rust or mutant blooded since i am partial to reds and it would help play into his hatred of society.

trolls or not though theyd all be destined for something right? so im gonna move onto potential god tiers. 

now this is where my laptop cut out so most of the classpect analyses themselves come with help fom http://dahniwitchoflight.tumblr.com

im imagining veronica as a rogue of space. first of all, space players are CRUCIAL to a session as one of the cardinal aspects (space & time making up the fabric of paradox space). its been said by calliope that space can be a passive aspect that holds great power, “hosting the stage before suddenly in some way ‘showing who the master truly is’” and then collapsing in on itself. space players are essential to sessions because it falls on them to light the forge which is necessary for the process of ultimate alchemy (creating the next universe) - and that aside, the idea of veronica collecting and breeding frogs is incredibly cute to me. 

“Those bound to the aspect of Space are, as the name suggests, concerned with the big picture. They are patient, masters of the art of ‘wait-and-see’, and are inclined to take things as they come. That isn’t to say that they’re pushovers or willing to let injustice lie-they just choose their battles wisely, understanding that sometimes you have to let something burn to the ground in order to build it back better and stronger than before. To this effect, they tend to be innovators, concerned with creation and redemption. Catch them recycling the old to make the new, the fresh, and the beautiful. For the Space-bound, the journey is as, if not more, important than the destination; how they do something is as important as what they do. At their best, they are steady, impartial, and creative. At their worst, they can be detached, apathetic, and vague.”    – this description of space players comes from the extended zodiac quiz itself 

rogues invite theft through their aspect or theft of their aspect. they have problems coping with their aspect or their supposed lack of it, they think that they cant handle it which causes them to give it up too easily. the challenge rogues face is to come to terms with their aspect and own it. 

heres a bit on rogues of space specifically: “They might have a tendency to quickly change the subject into others things or cover their interests up to distract from what they perceive to be their failed creations. They may feel uncomfortable with the thought that everything is random and meaningless in the universe, or that it is what you make of it, because they often think they don’t know what to make of it. They may feel lonely at times and feel like they have too much Space to themselves, wanting to fill it up with other people and things. They might lower their standards to the point that they give up their personal Space to someone not worthy enough, just so they won’t feel alone.On the flip side they might feel like they have too much stuff, maybe because they invite others to use up their Space, giving it away too readily, lamenting their lack of impatience with others, or the ability to say no to people. […] a Rogue’s challenge is to learn to be comfortable with their Aspect, and allow the healthy parts of it to enter their lives. They must learn to be okay with what they have right now, that they have it within themselves to change things and make them better. They don’t have to give up so easily.”

jd seems like hed obviously be a prince of doom and this feels self explanatory but. princes are described as being stubborn and pessimistic and they actively destroy using their class / destroy through their class. a princes challenge is to not end up destroying themselves along the way. doom aspect because not only does it pretty much encompass chaos, but the symbol (and the aspect itself has been speculated to be) pretty clearly draws from The Tumor which is. a giant fucking bomb essentially. another fun tidbit about doom players is that they are DEATH MAGNETS they die a LOT and its theorized that for this reason sburb has a sort of game mechanic in place to help balance that out by granting doom players multiple dream selves. i just think itd be really fun to see a sburb session where jd (maybe) cant be kept down by dying. doom is also associated with judgement and sacrifice, and have been said to be “fates chosen sufferers.” “doom players are wise, kind, and non judgmental at their best and bitter, resentful, and fatalistic at their worst.” 

and while i definitely think the doom class is fitting for jd im stuck between prince and bard? bards are the embodiment of the “wild card”. they allow destruction through their aspect / invite destruction through their aspect and their challenge is to not be ruled by the whims of their aspect. and im just now thinking that while this does make sense in its own way, princes and bards are active / passive opposites and i cant really imagine jd being the more laid back of the two. hes just too extra, lol. although i love the idea of jd being in that ridiculous bard getup 

heres some insight to princes of doom: “A Prince of Doom unapologetically pushes people way past their own limits. They are truly passionate, even almost crazy activists. They hate being told no or that they can’t do something, but are more likely to simply destroy or kill the person who said no then prove them otherwise. Depending on what kind of situation or session they find themselves in, and whether or not what they do is really needed at the moment, they can be heaven sent saviors, freeing people from what binds them, or terrifying dictators, ruling over people and enforcing their will wherever they want, letting nothing and no one limit what they do. […] They likely use Bombs and Fire as their main weapons. They have a lot of potential to go down a very destructive or even evil path if they use their powers irresponsibly, but not every Prince of Doom is automatically evil or will Doom their session.“

heather chandler i can definitely see being a witch of rage. witches manipulate using their aspect or manipulate their aspect directly and their challenge is to use their rule breaking powers in a morally conscious way. 

heres some info about witches of rage: “You don’t tell a Witch of Rage anything, they tell you. Anything you have to say they can Reject with Doubt, Negativity and Skepticism and be like ‘No you’re wrong, it’s actually this way.’ They manipulate fear, mistrust and anger, either lowering it or making you believe it’s not all that bad, even if it is. Or they can amplify it, making you paranoid and afraid of even mundane things. […] They can be ‘loose cannons’ and this can be good or bad, depending on how good you are on getting them on your side and keeping them there. Their entire moral challenge lies in the choice between using their powers on their allies or their enemies, like most witches.”  

heather duke would likely be a maid of mind. a maid creates with their aspect / creates their aspect, and a maids challenge is to rely on themself for their aspect. this absolutely isnt to say that duke cannot think for herself at the beginning of the story by any means.

here’s a bit about maids of mind: “At first they tend to defer to the decisions of the group rather than be a part of them and are more focused on watching and waiting and seeing how other people make decisions. […] When a Maid of Mind starts rising to their challenge, they start deciding for themselves what roles they need to play and when. […] They may just have an apathetic and indifferent personality in general. They start letting their thoughts and decision be known and have an effect instead of just referring to others and blending in.” 

and finally heather mcnamara would probably be a page of heart. (i had a hard time coming up with a god tier for her since, if im being honest, shes not a character i pay much attention to.) pages invite exploitation of their aspect / invite exploitation through their aspect. they start with a deficit in their aspect that they overcome through (obvious) overcompensation. their challenge is to keep at things, even if they fail or the journey is slow, to become stronger in the end. 

bit about pages of heart: “They can be very over dramatic in their emotional displays, blowing up every little thing completely out of proportion and giving disproportionate emotional responses to almost everything. […] They can be easily exploited through all of this by other people who either take advantage of the Page’s emotions and empathy, or take advantage of the Page’s obsessions and desires, using it against them. […] When they rise up to their challenge, they start learning to be more balanced and sincere with their emotions, their affections, and with themselves. They learn how to be passionate, sincere and truly honest with themselves and others.”

and all of this is just SOME of the possibilities of what could happen in a homestuck heathers au. would they all be in the same session? would they all be trolls? would the heathers & veronica be in their own session and jd be in his own session that ends up intertwining together? theres literally SO MANY possibilities when it comes to homestuck aus and i love that shit. 

now that ive spent so much time speculating all this its time to deposit myself directly into the dumpster 

[tofurkinator]

so anyway

[therealalex12]

UPDATE! Our Meenah Duke has changed, we now have a Dave Sweeney, and we now need a Karkat Sawyer! A backup for Vriska Chandler would also be appreciated! If you live in the (Suburban) Chicago are and would like to join, please dm me! #homestuck #homestuckcosplay #heathers #heathersthemusical #heatherscosplay #homestuckcmv #heatherscmv #heatherstuck #heathersstuck #chicagostuck #heatherstuckcosplay #homestuckcrossover #heatherscrossover #homestuckcosplaychicago #chicagostuckcosplay #karkatcosplay #karkatvantas #karkatvantascosplay #vriskaserket #vriskacosplay #vriskaserketcosplay

[rhythmic-idealist]

the-muse-court-replies replied to your post: so like, when I was in my hardcore Broadway...

Funny thing, my friend and I last year decided to make a Hamilstuck with Kankri in the role of Hamilton, Meenah as Burr, and so forth. It was a complete mess in terms of “what actually is this setting”, but we got like a quarter of the songs parodied before we forgot it. It was pretty fun.

Ooooh, nice! I’ve parodied “Farmer Refuted” for Kankri (as Samuel Seabury) and Meenah (as Alexander Hamilton), but it never developed into a whole AU because yknow you couldn’t actually carry that casting very far (and, come to think of it, also because it wasn’t an AU, just an account of game events)

I dig it though!!! Hamilton is a pretty Kankri character in all his flaws, which eheh I’ve actually JUST posted a separate thing about, so I dig it yeah yeah. I’m all about Broadway Homestuck AUs, but the only one I ever came up with for the alpha trolls was Heathersstuck and that never went much of anywhere.

Also dang, a quarter of the songs???? That’s...... work. I don’t think I’ve parodied a quarter of the songs for Hamilton, and I wasn’t even writing them all for the same AU. That’s pretty darn impressive.

[aquilacat]

Got an idea for a HeathersStuck vid

This shit is happening. 

[thesheeplepeople]

Guys I just thought of something HeathersStuck Heather Chandler - Meenah Peixes The other Heathers - Aranea Serket and Porrim Maryam/Damara Megido Veronica - Meulin Leijon JD - Kurloz Makara

[ezee-street]

Do you have any headcanons for the heathersstuck AU?

Oml I’ve never heard of this

-personally I don’t feel like the character dynamics of the beta or alphas perfectly fit but if I had to choose I’d probably say the beta

-Vriska would be Chandler, Feferi would be McNamara, and Eridan would be Duke. I dunno why but I feel like Karkat would be Veronica and Dave would be JD (tho I really think that boy wouldn’t go to the same extremes)

-Karkat would be picked on for hanging out with the lowbloods, however the ‘Heathers’ take him in because of his unspoken uniqueness (his blood) and use it

-Dave had been abused by Bro his whole life and when he meets Karkat he immediately becomes curious about Karkats secret, he then goes on to suggest that Karkat is proud of his blood color which Karkat refuses

-Vriska somehow finds out and in fear Karkat does his best to get on her good side, only to fail and yeah idk that’s the best I could come up with this early lol

[nonbinarystrilonde]

aaa on my heathersstuck post !! its aradia !!! not fef

Went back and fixed it!! Sorry!!

[tofurkinator]

hMMM is that a heathersstuck i see

[therealalex12]

UPDATE Pt 2! We finally got a Gamzee and John, now all we need is Dave to complete the main cast! If you'd be interested in playing him or another listed character, please see the main post and message me if you'd like to join! #homestuck #homestuckcosplay #heathers #heathersthemusical #heatherscosplay #homestuckcmv #heatherscmv #heatherstuck #heathersstuck #chicagostuck #heatherstuckcosplay #homestuckcrossover #heatherscrossover #homestuckcosplaychicago #chicagostuckcosplay #davecosplay #davestrider #davestridercosplay

[therealalex12]

UPDATE Pt 1! We finally got a Gamzee and John, now all we need is Dave to complete the main cast! If you'd be interested in playing him or another listed character, please see the main post and message me if you'd like to join! #homestuck #homestuckcosplay #heathers #heathersthemusical #heatherscosplay #homestuckcmv #heatherscmv #heatherstuck #heathersstuck #chicagostuck #heatherstuckcosplay #homestuckcrossover #heatherscrossover #homestuckcosplaychicago #chicagostuckcosplay #davecosplay #davestrider #davestridercosplay

[therealalex12]

UPDATE! We finally got a Gamzee and John, now all we need is Dave to complete the main cast! If you'd be interested in playing him or another listed character, please see the main post and message me if you'd like to join! #homestuck #homestuckcosplay #heathers #heathersthemusical #heatherscosplay #homestuckcmv #heatherscmv #heatherstuck #heathersstuck #chicagostuck #heatherstuckcosplay #homestuckcrossover #heatherscrossover #homestuckcosplaychicago #chicagostuckcosplay #davecosplay #davestrider #davestridercosplay

[therealalex12]

Hi everyone! Lately I've been working on a new au to make CMVs for; introducing HEATHERSTUCK! It's a crossover between Heathers the Musical and Homestuck, where HS characters are in the role of the characters from Heathers. I've been looking for people to make the videos with to fill the roles, and the cast list is above. There are only a few things you need to know/do before applying 🔹Live in the (Suburban) Chicago area 🔹Have a basic knowledge of both HS and Heathers (I'll elaborate when needed) 🔹Listen to the songs your character is in at least once, to know what the role entails 🔹Have the costume either currently done or done by June (filming will be in the summer) Note that the costumes will be a cross between the costumes from Heathers and the normal HS outfits, but it won't be super elaborate (no sewing needed, mostly goodwill), I'm currently designing them right now. Also "Blue" and "Dead Girl Walking" won't be made into videos because several cast members are victims of sexual assault and are uncomfortable with it, and things can get legally complicated if there's an age difference between Karkat and Gamzee. The roles that say "ON HOLD" next to them are still open, it's just that someone is thinking about the role and isn't confirmed. I hope you guys want to join the project and I'll have more updates to come! #homestuck #homestuckcosplay #heathers #heathersthemusical #heatherscosplay #homestuckcmv #heatherscmv #heatherstuck #heathersstuck #chicagostuck #heatherstuckcosplay #homestuckcrossover #heatherscrossover #homestuckcosplaychicago #chicagostuckcosplay

[aquilacat]

Oops! I did it again. 

In less than 24 hours I popped out another HeathersStuck vid. I am... having a shit ton of fun with this.

[aquilacat]

I don’t know how I’ve had the energy and focus to work on these HeathersStuck videos all weekend, but I ain’t gonna question it!