#house of the dragon episode 9 spoilers

[imjulia-andilikecats]

How it Should Have Ended

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Hypothetical question for you! Bastards area BIG DEAL in Westeros if you're one of the top guys and if you're a woman it's even worse. Seeing how Lady Stark handled Jon, how do you think Rhaenyra or Allicent would react when faced with a Bastard? We know they tried to keep Rhaenys from knowing about Corlys's for how she'd go murderous lol but thoughts on the other two?

Ohhhh I like this hypothetical. Let’s start with Alicent:

I don’t think Alicent loved Viserys or enjoyed being intimate with him. I think she took on the caretaker/supportive role out of duty and no other choice, not out of any love or bond with Viserys. She seems very rigid and curt with him most times, especially towards the end. I think that she would relish in the fact that his attention/affection isn’t on her so she can be left alone. Also, being a queen and generally passive/submissive to men in most scenarios, I think she would know it’s her “duty” to look the other way if her husband has any affairs and subsequent children, as queens have always done in reality and in Westeros.

Alicent is very much led by her sense of “duty” and her role as a Queen and a mother. She knows that husbands, especially kings, are not always faithful. Bastards happen, especially in male dominated societies where men can do -basically- whatever they want when it comes to their wives and extramarital affairs.

This is mind, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if she tried to prevent any bastards by giving the women “tea” if they happened to be members of court. Like “do what you want with my husband but let’s not make this a daycare.”

As much as I dislike and distrust Alicent, I don’t see her as the Cersei type because she’d have no reason to kill/go after any bastards since she knows HER children are legitimate and that’s all that matters in the end. They aren’t a threat, and it means that Viserys is getting his lovin’ somewhere else.

[I could make a separate post about how her reactions to bastards here could be reflected in Helaena as well, since she seemed totally indifferent to where Aegon was and didn’t give a single shit that they couldn’t find him. I don’t think Helaena would blink an eye at Aegon having bastards because Alicent probably 1. Told her that’s just how things are and 2. Helaena is totally fine not being around her husband for reasons I could go on a 45 minute hypothetical presentation for]

Now Rhaenyra on the other hand…

I think Rhaenyra would be hypocritical if she got upset to the point of causing a disturbance/having a huge reaction if she found out Daemon had bastards.

Rhaenyra, too, understands the role of a Queen and Wife, even if Daemon is just Prince Consort. His children wouldn’t be a threat to her legitimate ones, it would just be an issue of loyalty, which we know Daemon probably never was loyal to anyone other than himself in the end, no matter how much he may love them [I don’t mean this to say he doesn’t love/care about anyone but himself, but many of his actions are in some way fulfilling something he wants/needs. Rarely is it selfless. We’ve seen it, but it isn’t a common occurrence].

I think she’d forbid them from being at court/shown to their courtiers or acknowledged in any way, and since she’s the Queen, what she says goes. I think she’d harbor some resentment and mistrust of Daemon but I think they could somewhat recover, similar to Cat and Ned, though it would depend on how many bastards we’re talking about here (lol).

Also in the book Cat felt that she could’ve overlooked many bastards if she didn’t have to see them/if they weren’t quite literally being raised with her legitimate children. I feel Rhae would take that stance as well or at least a very similar one and make sure she wouldn’t have to see them/they wouldn’t be seen by anyone **important** to keep appearances and to keep herself sane.

I hope this is a good answer to your hypothetical! 🥰💖

[xsignedmsriss]

The Queen Who SHOULD Have Been

[teen-spirited-away]

Helaena when Alicent tried comforting her about her father's death

[spacegay-archetype]

Not larys killing his father and brother for FEET

[ophelieverse]

Everyone talking about Aegon mommy issues,but what about the ones Viserys gave him?That man never cared a single shit about him!

Viserys was a good father but only to Rhaenyra.In this episode when Aegon said "He never liked me” referred to his father made me tear up,my boy only dream was to be loved by his family but no one did😭❤️‍🩹

[helaenathedreamer]

only 12 minutes in but so far the Episode 9 Experience™ really has just been clutching Alicent, Helaena, and possibly Aemond to my chest and hissing at every character who breathes in their direction

[asha-mage]

I don't understand how people can say their not painting Aegon II in a sympathetic light, when their clearly doing everything they can to find a middle ground between all the extreme ways he's presented in Fire And Blood while at the same time fitting the pieces of his backstory and character together, to show him as a lonely abused boy who has never known unconditional love and affection.

Aegon sank into depravity and vice in order to cope with the impossible expectations placed on him from birth: his family gave him a conqueror's name in the hopes he would seize a throne he never wanted, his mother raised him to be afraid projecting her own anger and regret about Rhaenyra onto him, his grandfather beat him for his failures to live up to their standards of what king and prince should be like, and his father- who never wanted to remarry, never wanted to have more children- neglected and ignored him, hoping the problem of his existence would just resolve itself.

Aegon has spent his whole life in the specter of this moment, of the succession, knowing everything would be rent asunder by it's coming, powerless to stop it. And he puts on the crown and turns around, expecting what he has known all his life: rejection, scorn, and disappointment.

And instead? They cheer him.

For the first time in his life, he knows approval, adulation, and acceptance. For the first time, he knows what it is to be good enough. And he smiles.

[romanroyapologist]

I keep seeing people complain about Ser Crispy Cole getting away w murdering 2 lords in broad daylight on two separate occasions is bad writing cause there's no justice and like yeah that's the point guys. If you're in a high enough position of power and are close to the people in power no one is gonna touch you.

Also people are mad that rhaenys didn't murder an entire family and like yeah guys again that's the point it was a power move to show Alicent that she is better than that. She could have ended the entire civil war right there but chose not to

[secretsolstice]

Someone explain to me why Rhaenys didn’t DRACARYS them right then and there? I love hearing the different way the actors say it too. Would have made everything much more epic.

Someone said it’s so she won’t be a “kinslayer” but...I still would have loved to see Meleys beat all the dragons on speed alone.

[whogirl42]

I finally watched episode 9 of hotd I know I know it's about goddamn time and it literally amazes me how in every scene he's in Otto Hightower is unapologetically framed like a makivalian supervillain

[imjulia-andilikecats]

Everyone, looking for Aegon to crown as King:

Meanwhile, Aemond:

[madashryver]

shame on me. I still haven't watched the new episode of House of the Dragon! I do not have time ! So I'm forced not to go on Tumblr to avoid spoilers! I'm sad, I'll watch it tonight. at all costs.

[j4gm]

SPOILERS!!! REFERENCES AND EASTER EGGS IN F&C ep. 9: CASPER & NOVA (1 of 2)

I hit the image limit so this post will be in two parts.

These last two episodes feature traditional Adventure Time title cards with intro credits, which is something the others haven't had.

There is a butterfly floating above Fionna when she enters the "Land of Ooo". The same thing happened to Cake when she entered Ooo, and to Simon later on, but this butterfly doesn't have a face on it like those. This is our first hint that something is wrong.

The Betty statue in the background of this shot is on top of a four-faceted object that sort of resembles Glob's helmet; an item that she used to gain her magic powers in You Forgot Your Floaties. Also in this shot are several gnome fairies from The Enchiridion and Billy's Bucket List, and of course Mrs Cupcake and genderswapped Chocoberry. Mrs Cupcake has appeared before but I think Chocoberry is a new design for this episode.

This is our first and only look at what Hunter Wizard would look like. Mostly the same as his main universe counterpart.

This species of dragon first appeared in Memories of Boom Boom Mountain and has been in several subsequent episodes. I'm not sure who the giant cyclops is. It could be a genderswap of the cyclops from Another Way, or perhaps the rock giant from Five More Short Graybles.

Lots of the text in this scene is hostile. There is this sign behind the counter, of course, but lots of the books on the shelf also have violent names.

This series loves giving us extremely fucked up Simons.

This background character looks like Phlannel Boxingday. It would be hilarious if that was the case, considering he is widely assumed to have been a disguise of Princess Bubblegum rather than his own character.

This might be genderswapped Tiffany. She's wearing Tiffany's pink shirt under her jacket. Maybe she has a masculine name in this universe.

We get a better look at the newspaper from the first episode, featuring Betty. It also features the fake butterfly from the dream which feels like a bad omen.

Marshall Lee's t-shirt features the cake pop from Princess Bubblegum's rock shirt, first seen in What Was Missing.

The Lich first mentioned being a Scholar of GOLB in the episode Whispers. In this episode it is confirmed that he has been working towards his goals in GOLB's name. But it doesn't seem like he's actually had any line of communication with GOLB this whole time. GOLB doesn't seem to appreciate The Lich's efforts to wipe out all life; and now that GOLB is fused with Betty, they certainly don't.

The Lich rips off Billy's skin to reveal his skeletal form, which is the same as it was in Escape from the Citadel, complete with the metal plate on his ribcage.

GOLBetty turns the Lich into a tetronimo, implying that all of the tetronimoes surrounding them were once powerful beings who defied GOLB; perhaps they are even all alternate versions of The Lich.

Shermy and Beth! This episode incorporates a lot of the extra lore that writer Steve Wolfhard published shortly after the release of Come Along With Me. It canonises the fact that Shermy and Beth are rebels who oppose the tyrannical rule of Gibbon, who is Charlie's future son from Daddy-Daughter Card Wars. This place is the Pup Kingdom, which is featured in the Come Along With Me title sequence and is a central part of Wolfhard's 1000+ lore.

These are the same kinds of soldiers as seen in Graybles 1000+ when Cuber interrupted the space wedding. In that episode, you only got a very brief glimpse of their jowls. This episode makes it more obvious that they are pups.

All of these pups in the windows are designs from Steve Wolfhard's "Every Pup Has a Power" series of drawings. They once had superpowers, but their powers were extinguished by Gibbon.

This is Jake's favourite mug from the episode Puhoy, and the house in the snowglobe is Tree Trunks' house.

There is a Shermy plush in this pile of junk. There might be some other recognisable stuff in that pile too. I think the popcorn machine is from something but I can't remember what, and the pool toy might be a reference to the Lub Glubs from Beautopia.

This is our best shot of the Pup Kingdom, with its space elevator.

Beth is a revolutionary communist confirmed.

Shermy Simon shouts breadballs, an expletive that he previously used in the episode Simon & Marcy.

The clouds in Fionnaworld are shaped like GOLB blocks while Simon is in the presence of GOLB. We also get a better look at all the glitched out buildings, like that door that leads nowhere.

I think the creature next to Gunter in this advert is a yeti from the show Summer Camp Island, which a bunch of Adventure Time alumni went to work on after the original show ended.

There is a poster for Super Porp, a fizzy grape juice introduced in the episode Dark Purple, along with their mascot Cheryl.

Jake is on these packages in one of the shops.

The Library looks incredible now. In the original show, only the top part with the dome could be seen sticking out of the ground. Either the ground has eroded away to reveal the rest of the structure, or the library has been greatly expanded over time.

Turtle Princess is dead and apparently a robot took over her empty shell and continues to work as a librarian. These are the first gun-books we've seen that also function as actual guns.

These are the pagelings from the episode Paper Pete. They're much larger than they used to be. They don't have many books left to protect these days.

Casper & Nova mention lodging in the seaside town of Scandia on their quest to find the crown. This is a reference to the fact that Simon and Betty found the crown in Scandinavia, as mentioned way back in Holly Jolly Secrets.

I hit the image limit! Link to the second part.

[spacegay-archetype]

Oh boy do I have so many thoughts i don’t even know where to begin and if I’ll get remember everything I want to say:

•I loved episode nine it was so good!!

•Alicent is such a complex character oh my god

•I loved the cargyll twins! It was fun watching them go around the city and slowly fall out

•that scene between alicent and larys was actually awful ew I hate him

•not aegon only going along with this because he has daddy and mommy issues and just wants their approval

•really want to see more of the white worm, I like how she’s trying to protect the common people just like certain people from GOT

•I wanted a dragon scene and oh boy did Meleys deliver! As cool as it was to see Rhaenys breakout with Meleys….. like RIP all those innocent people that were dragged out of their homes to watch this coronation only for Rhaenys and Meleys to legit crush them oof

•I know they probably put all their budget into the Meleys scene BUT IM SO MAD we didn’t get to see Helaena and Dreamfyre together!! That’s all I wanted to see this entire episode!

•speaking of which I still love Helaena! Protect her

•Alicents first reaction to seeing Meleys and thinking they’re about to die is telling them to protect Helaena and then trying to shield Aegon from a literal dragon? Like yeah she’s not a good person but you can’t stop me from liking her at least a little bit

•and finally the previews for the finale…. Yikes… I’m so scared knowing what’s gonna happen

[ophelieverse]

I just finished the last episode,1x09,and all i have to say(for now)is that Rhaenys should had been Queen since the very beginning.Jaehaerys and all the little Lords should had chosen her to avoid all this shit show that’s going on.