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spiders-notagain · 2 years
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Vulcans dont have novels; a headcanon
As a planet with few trees, Vulcans had less paper. (Also many of the techniques humans use to make paper use water and Vulcans had less of that too) That doesnt mean they had NO paper. After all they did have some small forests. Aside from writing things on clay and sand tablets, ancient vulcans experimented with several different materials for paper. But eventually settled on two main products. A kind of regional variant of cotton and a type of relatively common brittle rock.
Thus Vulcans didnt really have alot of books and relied primarily on paintings and tablets to store information for future use or even future generations. Paper (and especially books) were seen as a certain sign of luxury and only used for important documents. The common people passed down memories and fictional stories by word of mouth/mind melds through generational lines. And it was very common for clans/families to have important traditional stories. In some families, being given the story was an important rite of passage.
There was alot of poetry though as it could be stored on single sheets of paper or immortalized in tablets. Even for the common people, learning about different types of poetry was a sign you were well educated. As well as other types of art forms but especially the rare written word.
Sometime before the nuclear wars they developed technology that allowed them to store large amounts of information digitally. All but removing the reliance on books to store important data. With that freed up, books were more accesible to the common people. Or rather what we would call middle class. Poor people could still not afford books.
And thus the return of the short story and the long short story/novelette. They were about the same product in thickness, except the short story is usually cut in half lengthwise. While there was a standard size, some bookmakers elected to use custom cuts.
A bookmaker did two things, binding and printing. First by hand, later when a simplified font was created, with letterpressing. Except when they were making journals in which case they would leave it blank.
Empowered by their new avenue for creativity, many simply wrote down the stories that had been passed down to them, some wrote fanfiction of their generational stories that nobody in their family wanted to pass down, some wrote brand new stories, some wrote journal entries about their own life or just detailed their family tree, and some wrote fanfiction of their favorite plays.
Most of the stories written in these formats did not have the 3 act story structure and since they had no audience to pander to, personal stories were self indulgent. They were often left open ended or devoid of context. (And some of it was literally just smut with plot)
Really savvy authors would use this gap of information to their advantage the way some human authors do. Others would make historians cry because for example their story is about this guy being enemies with this other guy because he stole his sister from a respectable family so the girls brother is trying to hunt them down and try and figure out some things about the guy but the author never mentions any of that in the story so you dont find out her name till halfway through, theyre running from an unseen enemy, and you dont even get to find out what happens after the brother finally catches them because the story was about the culture clash they experience being on different social statuses and also the weighing of love vs responsibility, and also kind of a rebuttal to a play the author saw 4 years ago that included a subplot that romanticized young love and they thought the premise was stupid. So they imagine both characters dying at the end at the hands of the brother and none of the aforementioned themes are immediately obvious anyway because their writing style was super poetic and flowy and they handled all their mature themes very subtly.
There wasnt really a book industry for published literature nor libraries as we think of our local ones. That did not mean they didnt have long stories. The closest equivalent were plays or interpretive dance which were around for millions of years, even beyond the earliest days of paper. (A handful of classic dance styles were preserved to modern day, not quite as fervently as martial art styles but respected for the cultural value they possess) They were revered as one of the most popular forms of entertainment and since many saw them as a kind of treat, they were drawn out to increase enjoyment with some of the better ones being 4-5 hours long.
They did eventually start adopting a sort of publishing industry. The earliest version of it was during post-reformation when they improved society as a whole. And the technology they used to store information digitally was more readily available than books. (Partially because pre-reformation it was considered a war technology) So the first industry was scientific articles. Particularly after they started going to space and really started learning things.
Although a few vulcan writers had experimented with common fantastical (re: genres that feature impossibilities) human book genres like sci fi and fantasy and to some extent horror, they didn't actually really delve into it till they met humans and those kinds of book genres became normalized throughout the federation.
Well thats not entirely true. Vulcans did have horror in the form of ghost stories. Not that they always included ghosts but urban legends, scary campfire stories and the kind of stories you tell your kids to scare them into behaving. Those had all been around for centuries but no one really wrote them down before the popularity of books so theres a lot of missing context from the various stories that just mutated or merged with other stories over time. Urban legend history is a category almost no vulcan wants to get into. Not necessarily because its full of the distasteful fantastical but because of how 'pointless' and low-payoff it is to comb through artifacts and old texts for hints about what might be relevant to that one story about the mystery le'matya where some texts only describe it as a shadowy unerving figure that doesnt do anything but seriously freak you out. But some texts describe it as three times the size of a normal le'matya and having knife sharp claws and pure white eyes and can kill a grown man with two slashes. One for the neck and one for the poison. And then while youre paralyzed it eats your guts out. If you hear it coming, it means youre already a goner.
But like, that shares a bunch of characteristics with this other nightmare creature so they think at some point someone merged the two stories to make it scarier. But they're not sure because most of the texts they have concerning the terrifying deadly le'matya were written before the ones they have about the mysterious unnerving le'matya. Except there's also this one poem that could be about the other nightmare creature or it could be about the deadly le'matya because the contents sorta fit both. But it does have an extra detail that they used to time date it so if they could figure out which one the poem is about then it would solve that earlier question.
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miraneko19 · 4 months
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Realized this while playing Birushana. Tomomori. You know.
#birushana#birushana rising flower of genpei#otome#wizardess heart#shall we date#blanking on what other morally controversial otome games ive played#but seriously that trope of “im lowkey obsessed with the heroine and even seeing the hate in her eyes as she looks at me is perfect.”#to “i would love to see what other expressions i could bring her to make-”#ALL the way to the final installment of “oh. when she smiles.. when shes happy.. and looks at me with such happiness?#that is the best expression she has ever made. she looks beautiful like that... everything else pales in comparison- no.#i actually dont care to see her tears or to have her look at me in anger ever again.“#and just. falling in love with her happiness and doing everything they can to make her smile and laugh among other things??#because they feel really good doing it??#sorry i know thats common with villain love interests but im REALLY a sucker for it okay i cant help it#but also no seriously what other games like this have i played again?? i havent played any of the villain routes in hakuouki yet#but i feel like this trope is probably in there so.#hakuouki#JUST THE LOOK OF SURPRISE ON THE LOVE INTEREST'S FACE WHEN THEY SEE THE PROTAG SMILE AT THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME#AFTER ONLY EVER PREVIOUSLY SHOWING FEAR OR HATE#I LOVE IT AAUUUGHHH#oh!! thats right!#steam prison#paradigm paradox#piofiore#BECAUSE YANG I FUVKING LOVE YANG EVEN THOUGH HES AWFUL UGH#even if tempest#ill tag that in here too bc Tyril was that way for a hot second in the beginning of his route/timeline when he was first meeting Anastasia#i definitely know theres more but damn#anyway#we support character development in this house
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orcelito · 1 year
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OK MORE ANALYSIS
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towards the start of trimax, we get this little bit here. aka Meryl's birthday, & ALSO when there are official sightings of Vash reappearing. so we can assume that Wolfwood finds Vash again in February (ish) of 0113
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this. the beginning of the end. happens on July 21st of 0114, the exact ten year anniversary of the July Incident (July 21st of 0104)
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and Vash & Knives' birthday.
which that's a whole big can of worms that's gonna have me needing to run through my fic again for dates bc i didnt realize it was Literally exactly 10 years passed between then and now.
but MORE IMPORTANTLY...
when you think about the dates. between february 0113 and july 0114, that's 17 months. Vash spent 7 ish months on the arc (maybe 8, sometimes they say 8)
this means that Vash and Wolfwood traveled together for a total of about 10 months, give or take.
ten months, largely just the two of them.
i think i need to sit down lmao
#speculation nation#i say as if i am not already sitting#fanny reads trigun#fanny's trigun analysis#trigun#vashwood#TANGENTIALLY...#trigun spoilers/#JUST...#the time they spend together is so indefinitely defined in trimax. we just dont get that much detail.#but this? this is a definite spread of dates. could be a little longer & could be a little shorter. Depending.#but approximately 10 months of traveling together. god.#sometimes you spend 10 months with someone and they completely rewrite your perceptions of life#your moral systems even! the way you LOVE!!!!#oh this was a very good thing for me to actually register lmfao bc Man this is some very good food here#i was running under the vague assumption that July Incident to start of manga was 6 years. then 2 years between jeneora & trimax start#then 8 ish months Plus a little to 9 years. but obviously that was imperfect. there are a few more months in there to get it to 10.#which jeneora happened in october of 0110. so if we assume a perfect 6 years passed then the manga starts july 0110.#that's 3 months then spent traveling with meryl and milly. give or take a little.#hmmmhmhmhm this is VERY good for fic timeline reasons. very very good. i have made some very important discoveries today.#also for any1 seeing this in the tag im mostly doing research for my own fanfic writing lol but i wanted to share it generally#bc these r good details for anyone to know. & not everyone has the patience to go looking for them.#SO here U go. some more details analysis. this time with Dates. yup.
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wheelercore · 1 month
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Is that meant to be holly being obscured by will here or am i experiencing some sort of wheeler induced optical illusion
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poorwillednightjar · 8 months
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hating twitter yet again… 🙁
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fulls · 1 year
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skyburger · 3 months
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RIP reo speedwagon (the jojo's bizarre adventure character) you would've loved reo speedwagon (the american rock band)
#muffin mumbles#jjba#iwas reading rhe wikipedia page for the band (Did you know they performed with pitbull. like dale mr worldwide mr 305. that pitbull)#and the band was formed in 1967 so iwas like huh i wonder when they character named after the band died. because like#**the (not they)#he was born a century earlier <- i was actuwlly right about this robert eo speedwagon (the character) was born in 1863#so in jjba canon: reo speedwagon (the character who is named after the band) ++#predates reo speedwagon (the band who the character is named after) by 106 years. Thats awesome. do you think in jojo world they were like#hey this dude seems pretty cool. lets name out band after him. Was it compleyely unrelated? does the band exist in jjba world i hope it doe#did rhe guy who invented the car the band is named after (who named the car after himself-- his initals were REO) name it after him?#cause like. this is the timeline pf events here: in 1863 robert eo speedwagon is born. we dont know what the eo stands for#in 1915 the reo speed wagon is introduced (named after its inventor whose initials are ransom eli olds)#in 1969 the band REO speedwagon (sometimes stylized R.E.O. speedwagon) is formed. theyre named after the car#(it was a random thing they picked because it got mentioned in someones uni class? i think?)#so in my mind. im thinking yhese are all correlated#in jojo world not in real life. sadly.#so im going to choose to believe the car guy heard about the speedwagon foundation and went huh. sick name! he just added his own initials#(REO) unrelated he fidnt know speedwagons (the guy) full name#and then in turn the band named themselves after the car. this is true in my heart#wait semi related what the hell was joseph thinking when he heard thet band like on the radio i know he did i know this. was he like ? Huh?#joseph joestar watching 70s & 80s musicians have the exact same names as the guys with crazy powers he fought decades ago: huh! thats weird#um i got off topic. i just wantef to make the joke in theactuwl post itself but alas. i love a good ramble#thisis a joke post (obviously) but im not joking about the ''you wouldve loved reo speedwagon'' part. i think he would 100% enjoy the music#authors note: this took me just shy of four hours to post becausde i put it in my drafts from my phone to edit in browser because#the tags broke in the editor (as they often do for me)#and this somehow ended in a detour of me installing & uninstalling & reinstalling a stupid amount of chrome extensions#because i managed to get rid of the likes and reblogs buttons i couldnt interact with posts. awful. its ok tho i solved it
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cowboybutchboots · 6 months
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fuuuck i hate my stupid relationship drama
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pinkseas · 1 year
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girls will put an EXTENSIVE amount of thought and research into their next couple of planned fics and THIS IS THE THANKS THEY'LL GET FOR IT.
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soft-girl-musings · 8 months
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ah yes nothing says "healthy home environment" like everyone being in their 20s and 30s and being crucified for saying fuck
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vaugarde · 10 months
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well i finished renegade. i sure was renegading all over the place
#it was alriiiight.... but man i hate to say it but i think i have more complaints than praises#i DID like florins new execution route and i liked talons deal. the entire end of night spell deal was horrifying and i loved it#i love that genre of horror like ''you die twice when you get forgotten after death''#so seeing it play out here was horrifying in a good way. talon and amber's deaths were both so fucking good like goddamn#they were just as heartbreaking as they needed to be. especially ambers like when you go talk to tesla after#but. man i dont think meta games are for me cause ngl i was sorta just like ''aight.'' to most of the meta here#like that was the one thing about talon i didnt care for. i thought ''everyone i know and love is going to die and god is screaming at me''#was a fine enough motivation to go crazy and become a rift. i thought it was compelling and tragic and a good thing to do#with a new character. but then he started going ''in older versions of the game i wasnt even there i was just a prop for the backstory''#and thats sorta when i started tuning out. like i cant explain why but i feel it made the scene more... cheap?#i think just cause personally ive seen that motivation a lot in meta games before and its gotten old to me#tbh the entire meta angle is whats really dragging this down to me. dont get me wrong i love eizen and his scenes#but i dont see why we have to canonize the game's update cycles as like a critical part of the world#and then theres m2 who i have mixed feelings on. cause i love the character type of ''ive been through so much shit idc anymore''#and they end up being kinda goofy and saying inappropriate/out of pocket things while trying not to discuss The Horrors#ive written more than one of those types of characters. but with m2 its like she doesnt know how to turn that off#like spacea and tiempa's deaths being a tera raid parody where they joke about being in a crashing plane and get bashed by extra melias#it just felt like. unfitting. (also a nitpick but goddamn that scene made my head hurt with how much the screen wobbled)#like really? this is the sendoff they get in the fucked up and evil route? and idk i just dont think m2 was all that funny.#she was more grating than anything tbh. and i just feel like her existence and the bad timeline is just Too Much#like there were already so many plotlines and arcs and do we Really need a new-ish character right before the climax#idk. im hoping v14 is more cohesive in this department#for now im taking a much needed break from this game lol
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waywardsalt · 1 year
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i think ive seen this idea around a few times but not too recently, but i dont really understand when people say that skyward sword fucked up zelda lore or whatever. idk if i missed anything in sksws story or just happened to miss something in general but ig. i dont really understand that opinion
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hella1975 · 2 years
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update on The Horrors Date: we are now meeting maybe tuesday? because he's a third year and he's got something to do with his dissertation due monday and that's definitely why he couldn't meet at the time i gave him there's no other reason why he'd want to meet in the evening at his house without a time limit as opposed to the afternoon like i said. i am not overthinking this on the contrary im being very optimistic about this entire thing
#basicallyyyyyyy#we agreed on sunday and when i asked him what time he said 8ish#but my flat are (genuinely) having a xmas dinner tonight and my mate has effectively given me a fucking curfew#where she was like 'if you're not back by 6 im killing you in your sleep'#so i told him that and said we could meet around 4ish instead#and he immediately was like no#and it's totally valid he literally told me AGES ago that he had an assignment he needed to do over the weekend#and that's why we originally said friday#but im IMMEDIATELY here like 'he wants me to come to his HOUSE in the EVENING when i have NO EXCUSE TO LEAVE'#like gee i wonder what he thinks is gonna happen....#BUT BUT BUT i think we're just going to go for coffee now because it's easier? so this is actually a good thing#im like aware that it's me being a bitch and assuming the worst out of him but idk im paranoid about shit like this#if we do just get coffee on tuesday im gonna be over the moon bc that takes away so much fucking stress#i was telling my flatmate about it bc normally i wouldnt have even agreed to get dinner with him at his house as a first date#bc who does that for a FIRST DATE?? that's terrifying no thank you#but because i spent the night with him it's kind of warped the timeline of things and now idk where we are#and my flatmate was like 'so? ive spent the night with lads and i dont think it changes anything about a first date'#and i was like i understand but bestie you're talking about SEX#i didnt do ANYTHING with this guy we CUDDLED and he KISSED THE TOP OF MY HEAD AT ONE POINT#THAT IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN JUST SLEEPING WITH HIM IDK WHAT THE PROTOCOL FOR THIS IS#basically it's all a shambles#but ive had more time to think about it and while that has been its own curse bc ive overthought EVERYTHING#it's also made me realise that this is ultimately a good fun exciting thing and i need to stop being a little bitch about it#hella goes to uni
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kimasousparky · 1 year
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i wonder if there's any fics about bonten mikey leading a double life of a restaurant owner and mafia boss. i got a sudden craving for this concept
mikey keeping a relatively good relationship with his friends, most unaware of how low he actually went. missed pah-chin's wedding, but he'll burn the world down if he misses takemichi's.
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reikunrei · 2 years
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thought i just had a really interesting idea where maybe El’s power isn’t being able to open gates to the UD but maybe she’s the one that’s actually splitting off all of these alternate timelines and stuff and the gates/cracks are just the manifestation of these alternate universes/timelines that you could potentially jump between and just like it’s ALL because of El, but then i remembered that uuuhh Henry exists. and like. he. did some shit in the Creel house when “he” killed his family. and i went hm. oh yeah. hm. hm. me? idiot, mayhaps?
#LIKE idk idk enough about the whole aspect of the creel house and everything that went on the night of the murders#like some other ppl do like i dont know all the details and stuff#but like there was def a split between henry and Mystery Edward Boy i guess#so like. that's the split there#but could it have STILL all originated from el????#idk this is me trying to make timeline splits and alternate universes actually interesting to me#and like. fun and actually make sense in the show lol#it still just doesnt really FEEL RIGHT to me#DESPITE the fact that the ud IS AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE#they just gotta be reaaalllly careful with how they do it#dont turn it into some fucking dogshit marvel fucking suckass shit#i hate marvel can you tell :) they have ravaged the movie ecosystem :) the bane of my existence truly :)#like. i think once it starts being like 'we're putting every single possible alternate timeline in here'#it's like okay this sucks and is lame actually where's the stakes in that#i think ive seen ppl say there's like. 3-4 that are easy to pick out#'easy' lol but like 3-4 that you can find evidence of in the show#and i think just having the rsu and the ud is nice bc like. it's just a very clean cut#i think 3-4 is a good number tho like. offers a little more intrigue#without getting too overwhelming#like. i just feel like having 100000 possibilities doesnt work for this show#keep it simple. please. let eeaao take the stage for doing a good job having 10000 alt timelines#im just glad s5 is sticking only in hawkins bc man. s1-2 are so good bc they are SO small scale#i wish it had always stayed small scale :(#i dont want them to save the whole world i want them to save their friends and their little town and that's it :(#give me tangible stakes that i can actually be worried about them not meeting :((((#ANYWAY COMPLAINT OVER!!!! BYYYYYE!#i say things#stranger things //
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rivilu · 22 days
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I'm fucking sick again! You know what that means!
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