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#i guess it's just harder for me to think of what to do with vanessa/vanny then with gregory/beckory/evan :]
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So...some thoughts on storytelling in security breach
I’ve seen people complain about the story and how it feels quite rushed etc so here’s some thoughts I have. Obvious major spoilers under the tag and a huge post incoming
1. Afton
I think they could of done afton a little better but it was kind of interesting, seeing first the whole almagomation and half expecting that to be him and then seeing actual him. I think it could be a little harder maybe? but the thing with freddy was cool.
As for motive and why he’s there? When has he ever had a motive? like never, as far as canon is concerned its something about control and immmortality - surely both those things are present in the game.
He may come back in the DLC, along with Vannny.
2. Vanny
I do think that we should have more with Vanny but I’m wondering if that would be in a dif game, especially if we take the afton ending as canon (which I think is most likely), there is room for her to be in a different game. I wonder if there si more that hasn’t been found yet...like the fact the “join me on the stage” was only partly found and i dont think many people have figured out the whole therapist thing (if anyone has without looking in the files).
I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Vanny or Vanessa - even if the best ending is canon it’s possible Vanessa could come back as a protagonist (sim style to Mike)
3. Gregory
It’s interesting that we don’t learn where Gregory comes from - I think this is again something for a further game/ books. A lot of therories could still be true - him being related to Aftons, an android, just some kid, a protagonist of a previous story. It’s an unanswered question yet to be found
4. Overall story
I think that part of the issue is how long its been - we’ve had so long and a fair amount of info (and stuff that might ahve been unintentional/leaks/just mistakes) that most of the story had been spoiled, I personally think it’s pretty satisfying - our guessing with afton, vanny etc were correct and that’s cool. I think there are a lot of questions looking deeper etc
Not being funny, but the storytelling has never been great, it’s too washy etc and suddenly we’re given a game that has to have an explicit story - we’re used to finsing everything ourselves but that’s not fully the case. I think we just have to look a bit deeper to find the things to figure out - where did gregory come from, what does the hints to fnaf 4 really mean, what did freddy mean w “i’ve been here before,my friends are down here, she took me here”, what happened to afton at the end, what was the purpse of the missing people and where did they go? there’s a lot of unanswered questions!
5. The future
I don’t think this will be the last game. If we’re lucky a lot of stuff like the 3D models (even if just style), some of the basic run models, maybe some exact models etc could be reused without it being too noticeable, the game could come out quicker. Even if it doesn’t, I feel a lot of the mistakes made this time ie revealing things too early + more implicit lore stuff etc can be fixed for the next game.
At the end of the day, the games only been out for a little. There must be more unfound stuff like security up to level 10 is still to be found and there may even endings? I don’t think we’ve seen the last of this game.
Also, the whole guide comes out next year, right? So there’s still more stuff to find and answer.
Personally, here’ some stuff I think could still be unfound in the game rather than future games: More ref to fnaf 4(there’s already been a few), more stuff saying what happened to the missing people, a few hints to gregory, what happened to roxy raceway, maybe another vanny based segment
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fairyhaven13 · 3 years
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I decided to give some thoughts on the new FNAF game because it's giving me a lot of ideas for my story I'm working on, and there are some really good and not so good things in it. Edit: tags broke so I had to fix them.
For those who haven't played yet, here's a non spoiler review. The setting? Fantastic. Huge, pretty, so much detail and love put into it. The characters? Immaculate. More personality than any other FNAF game. The lore? Eh. Don't go in expecting more revelations than we already guessed with the hype theories. It has a lot of endings, sure, but not a lot of answers.
And yeah, FNAF games have always been vague about answers. As far as that goes, it's pretty average. You always had to get bits and snippets and put them together into a bigger story. But it feels like the bits and snippets don't make anything bigger this time. They either refer to things that don't have anything to do with the story, and so get ignored, or they tell you the obvious. There are a couple exceptions that are harder to find.
The mechanics are a little buggy and rushed but that's to be expected of a new game. For the most part it's very fun and enjoyable. I really liked it. Just don't expect a lot of far reaching story arcs beyond what we already know.
Spoilers under the cut.
So here's the lore we get. Vanessa went to therapy for her ongoing psychosis due to Glitchtrap and she hacked the mall's systems to put Glitchtrap inside. That's why the robots are all against you. No answer as to why Freddy isn't, though. And yeah, Vanessa is Vanny. Sorry to all of you who don't like that. I thought it was obvious from the get-go but some people really didn't want that for some reason.
You can do the secret Princess Quest games to free Vanessa's soul in one ending, defeating Glitchtrap and getting rid of Vanny. Vanessa and Gregory walk off into the sunset. There is also an ending where Gregory unmasks the dead Vanny and sees Vanessa, but then Vanessa is also shown on the burning mall. People think that's her ghost trapped in the fire.
The true ending has you go to the Pizzeria Simulator restaurant under the mall and fend off Afton. He is somehow still alive and in the Springtrap suit, which now has an endoskeleton for some reason even though it was a suit. Molten Freddy is also there and helps defeat him and then you set the building on fire. Considering how useless this makes the nice conclusion in Simulator, though, this probably accomplished nothing. And there's no answer about whether this also defeats Glitchtrap or if Afton and Glitchtrap are separated, meaning Vanny is still trapped.
There are implications that Gregory is not what he seems. Freddy says he's broken, he gets static effects a la Slenderman when Vanny or Moon are near, and Vanessa says he has no record. He's homeless in one ending but there are no other answers besides that.
Bonnie and Foxy were decommissioned but only get little blurbs mentioning that and nothing more. Apparently a lot of kids are missing and one blurb says "we all remember what happened to those kids" but again, nothing more on that.
We still don't know a lot of things. That's as far as the story went. The game was made more to be entertaining than give much lore. Maybe MatPat will figure out more than I put here. I liked the game a lot but I understand why people are irritated about the way the lore was handled.
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monty-glasses-roxy · 2 years
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Did ole peepaw have an irish/scottish granduncle, if so did that granduncle instill a fear of the fae into him. If so, how would he react to Hallow!Roxy?, and would he request vanessa to be wary around her?
Granduncle??? Why just Scottish or Irish there's concentrations of Fae folk and their equivalents all over the UK??? I'm sorry the entire first half of this ask is throwing me for a little loop I don't even know what a granduncle is what
I think if Peepaw knew about what happened to Roxy he'd either see it as a perfect opportunity or as a great risk. Like, she could have been weakened to things like mind control and what not and with her new physical differences she'd be one hell of an asset. However, if it's made her harder to control, she would be considered a massive threat because holy hell you do not want to mess with someone that can send you to the hospital with the swish of her slime tail. If he couldn't take control of her, they would have to get rid of her somehow but that would be pretty difficult! Vanny would have to be so on the ball in order to not get found out.
However, all of this might make her much more sympathetic towards Vanessa once she's freed so I guess there's an upside.
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