komaedaprince · 5 years ago
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How do you think the dream relates to Shigure's feelings for Akito? Do you think he even truly loves her for yourself? Don't worry I've read the manga loads and loads of times I'd just like to hear your interpretation, so feel free to use spoilers. Is the chapter you're referring to on Shigure chapter 111? I've always wanted an indepth analysis on that chapter would you please do one? c:
thank you so much for all the patience you’ve given me...! i’ve done a lot of thinking in the days between and have some thoughts i can share. it’s long and wordy so i’ll put it under a cut, especially for spoilers as well!
the dream, the birth of God, marks a moment of desire for him. a catalyst, for action, for an drive he scarcely had before. the fact that it was specifically akito being born? i don’t personally think it mattered as much. how could it? she was an infant, just born, no personality, nothing. but that dream mattered so much emotionally to him, it touched him and very deeply at that. something that hadn’t been replicated before and has since ONLY been replicated by her existence (marked by small moments of clarity from tohru), then following a love for her as she is. it started one way, and grew and so i do think he loves her, partly for herself and also majorly for that distinct passion he continued to want to cultivate. it... bloomed, if you will. as akito grew, so did he, if that makes sense.
a little about shigure before the chapter anaylsis: 
i think shigure is prone to dropping little bombs, just tiny very honest thoughts that always hit too close to home. he challenges people. it's always uncomfortable because he never asks for consent and it's always under his agenda. but the way he challenges people is so... it's like a flash of light or a gust of wind which ends swiftly. that's part of why... it's so hard for people to grasp who he is, what he's thinking. for akito, it hurts especially only because i think she's very smart and can sometimes recognize the underlying meaning but because she's so stuck in this awful cycle and system, she can't view it as anything else but cruel, mean, bad. not what she ‘needs’. but later on in the chapter, he has incredible insight on her, words you wouldn't think fit because all we've seen of akito is pain, tantrums, being obsessive, being quick to anger, quick to refuse any understanding. he knows... what's underneath all of that.
ahh!! like i suggested before, i think he loves her but i think the character of shigure is inherently selfish and ambitious for his own desires. that's also a part of why he's so distant, distintively out of reach from others. he is always separate from the others, acting as a influencer and an instigator. you can see him, rarely, thinking about his position, seeing the gap and... really wondering about it, questioning it. even dreaming of... maybe i am meant for something else, or i am actually very deeply disturbed. fruit's basket is an underlying story partly about abusive systems and i absolutely believe shigure has been a victim of it. shigure? a victim?? yes, i think all the zodiac are victims at some point in their lives and are trapped as... the curse suggests, as it actually is. shigure is one of them, even if he never minded being a part of it, even if he is an outsider in that he observes, observes, instigates, observes. he still has been affected by this curse, by being exposed to it. he has to live by it. his love for akito, too, he lives by a way, involving God and the subsequent bond that demands.
OKAY! for the chapter: 
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right off the bat, my first thought is shigure understands change needs to happen. for his agenda, but also for akito’s happiness. he challenges her constantly but especially here even though akito only thinks it’s meant to taunt her, mock her desires for ‘forever’. but she’s speaking from an unlit room, which she often is throughout the first parts of the series. she’s also constantly dimly lit, enclosed in small places, distant and only observant. it’s never emotional, always closed off. think about it. the first times we see her are glimpses of the room, in an enclosed car up until her eventually meeting with tohru and others at school and then many other times after, she’s sitting in a private room, either alone or surrounded by people who make her feel like “forever” is still viable. it’s painfully obvious she’s trapped, this cannot continue. i truly believe shigure’s natural character is an observer, and his favourite person to observe is her. of course he sees through all this, through the curse, he can see this person is suffering and so is he, in his own way. challenging is all he can do right now. 
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in response to hatori’s “why can’t you just be nicer”, what he says tells me it would not be genuine. as they are and as the zodiac is right now, none of it would be genuine. directly following that, it’s a reiteration of shigure being an outsider among them. the way he never has resented or felt sad about the bond he felt, makes him feel different from the others and therefore, obviously lonely. the chapter i was referencing, not this one, ties in with that. when he decided to offer a relationship to mayu in exchange for not being ‘lonely’. and then, he drops a bomb in my opinion about how akito relates niceness, kindness, an “eternal bond” and a constant presence as being related to ‘fatherhood’.
shigura stating his character is obvious, right? but it’s important here because it explains more of his intent when it comes to akito. he’s a self-serving and private person who has no interest in being kind for the sake of it. he wants akito to be free and he wants akito to see him as he is. as he is inside and so he never falters in that way. he remains as he truly is because he wants her to come to him, and love him, and be with him for his true character and as they are right now, that would never happen. all his kindness and efforts end up warped because she flutters away to others in search for forever. she’s never happy, never satisfied, terrified of other’s leaving her, that she’s not strong enough to stand by his side. and shigure? he’s immature, he’s vindictive. without the possibility of change or of accountability, he won’t play the game there anymore. of course they broke apart before the manga’s start. it’s a horrifying and incredibly unhealthy place to encourage or continue a relationship.
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i won’t say much about these panels as it’s evidence, to me, of the curse definitely having affected him deeply. there’s not much else i feel inclined to say or interpret but the chapter i referenced was 56. where he and mayu date but for a short time before it ends, obviously. if you have any questions, please let me know! i’ll... try my best to continue on in providing my thoughts to you...!
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panelshowsource · 5 years ago
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he lowkey does look like ed though.......but ed disagrees!!!
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hello! requests are closed atm and generally for gif requests of non-panel shows, it should be a specific moment and specific episode you can provide a timestamp for, esp if i haven’t seen it. thanks for understanding!
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yeah, i hate when that happens. your best bet right now is to go to /r/notapanelshow and make a request. i’m sure they can have it to you by the end of the day!
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i’m definitely not sick of it, i just feel bad bc there’s not much of it i can actually respond to so most of it goes unanswered, esp when people (not you specifically, just in general) send links in the ask esp to other people’s blogs. i dooo know he’s very lovely and very handsome and by all accounts i can see a very safe and unproblematic fave, and everyone here adores him. unfortunately i don’t think that’s something i can comment on every single day even though those are the wishes of some of my beloved anons! re: jimmy carr, i have received tons of messages about people meeting comedians on the street or after shows, and jimmy is always touted as being the funniest and sweetest, though people sent in great asks (too many to respond to) about miles, joe wilkinson, sarah millican, david mitchell, russell howard, roisin conaty, richard herring, lou sanders, ed gamble, greg davies, alex horne and more! i’m so happy to hear so many of our faves are good to their fans!
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no this blog does not respect decency in the slightest so i promise that is not why! if it was genuinely thirst and not just a paragraph about what a good person he is, etc., then it’s being saved for the next thirst update! unfortunately i can’t post alllllll of the “i love miles” messages i get but i hear them and agree!
and if someone posts panel show content but does not tag me #panelshowsource, i won’t see it as i don’t follow any panel show or britcom blogs x
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thank you for the rec anon, i’ll link to it here for people to enjoy!
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i’m not really familiar with her!
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i remember wanting to gif sarah when she was on 8 out of 10 cats bc she had some good banter, but not much of it was, like, the kind of quick and easily understandable banter to gif, you know? but they were at least on roast battle so i can definitely look into making some more gifs of that! any reason to rewatch roasting is a good reason
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i bet it’s all @croquettish smdh!!!
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ofc when james got up and went behind his chair simply bc someone talked about something related to boobies that was hiiiiiilarious but i actually don’t recall him having a loooot of moments like that...i think we’re just more likely to notice when he does anything because we like him so much heh. i liked when he got frustrated by completely logicless points system, but i honestly love any amount of competition!! that’s probably why i liked s2 so much when others thought it was just ok, because joe and jon and at times katherine and doc were suuuuuuuuper competitive (remember when they had to vote whether to give joe points for touching the red green and jon and doc literally said no?? that was iconic). but i will def do a rewatch for another out of context taskmaster post, so i’ll keep an eye out :)
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yeah, most of the time! that said one of the funniest things i’ve ever heard was jimmy carr calling adam hills “hopelessly sanctimonious” bc how can you argue with that
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PANEL SHOW GODS HAVE BLESSED US WE ARE NOT WORTHY
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aw they’re buddies so i’m sure he didn’t mind a little kissy merriment!!! good boys...
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thank you everyone hehehe
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f.a.q. // tags // watch links masterpost
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