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#i just think it was a great ending for cprimeboys
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DSMP finale and why its not as bad as people say it was - understanding is not forgiveness.
Everyone is saying that its written badly, and that its damage control but Tommy has said this was in the works for months now. Everyone is saying that it isn't a satisfactory conclusion, and maybe that is the case for us; the audience but it is satisfactory for cTommy.
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cTommy never forgave cDream. He understood him, he saw cDreams past and realised that cDream had morals and had goals. He understood what those goals now were. He saw that happy server that was in the past and realised that cDream missed it. This is not him at all forgiving cDream, this is not him saying that everything that happened to him was fine, he is simply seeing cDreams perspective.
Sure, he apologises but thats him apologising for his own actions and for the bad things he has done in general, this never was meant to imply that cDream was in the right. cTommy even says that he doesn't agree with anything cDream did, he just says that he can see his point now. -
At a surface level, cTommy being sympathetic towards cDream makes no sense, but then you consider his goal behind everything. Why he always went after cDream? and its for closure.
He wanted closure not with cDream dying (as we see in prison lore he can't kill cDream) He thinks he can do it but he can't and thats because by killing him, he never finds out why cDream harmed him.
Abuse victims often need to figure out why their abusers harmed them so they can have that closure, that understanding, they no longer will be kept awake at night wondering for hours 'what did I do wrong?' 'why did they do it to me?' 'did they like hurting me?' ..and if you look at cTommy, he's always wondered why cDream targetted him and what did he do wrong. He just wanted to know why. And this finale provided that answer to him.
cDream isn't being redeemed, he says things like 'you deserved it' and he never apologises. But this isn't about them reconciling, and becoming friends. This is about cTommy finally knowing why he was hurt so many times, and it co-exists with the fact that cDream was never justified in hurting him.
cDream was never forgiven or excused, he was only explained. None of cDreams motivations and desires were painted as correct. And cTommy seeing cDream as human isn't him forgiving him.
You have to consider that cTommys trauma has a big role to play in this whole thing. Why sympathize with cDream? He always did even before exile, he always tried to understand him but got left with evil monologues in response, never knowing the true reasons until he saw that limbo. He just wants it over, he just wants to be free, he smiles because he is free, he gets the reassurance, he realises why cDream thinks everythings his fault and then he finally was at peace.
until the nuke went off.
Theres even a chance that if the nuke didn't go off, cDream would betray cTommy eventually but we'll never know.
The finale ended off with cTommy putting his heart over his head, and also empathizing with the person that hurt him the most just as cTommy has done in the past over and over. Fits cTommy perfectly.
But then both cTommy and cDream achieve what they wanted; the server being simple again.
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sunlitmcgee · 2 years
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tumblr user sunlitmcgee please tell me about primeboys and their unhealthy one-sided-obession relationship
TUMBLR USER QUBESCAURE I AM SORRY THIS TOOK SO LONG FOR ME TO GET AROUND TO but in my defense, I think you sent me this right around the time that dr*blur had their little fit so I kinda didn't wanna post a response because I felt it Wasn't The Right Time.
Sadly that means that I have forgotten literally everything I wanted to say about them. I suppose I could say something by comparing them to the version of cprimeboys in DSMP canon. In HWHBH, all I did was up the creep factor of cdream's obsession by drawing stuff out to show just how unnerving it should be for a grown adult man to spend what is well over several years stalking, hunting, abusing and preying upon a defenseless teen to fuel his own god complex.
in HWHBH, cprimeboys are in a one-sided game of cat and mouse.
or well. they were, prior to the events of the depicted fic/
Heal!Dream thought that he was the cat who was entitled to do as he wished to the poor boy he decided was his prey.
It's rather funny, then, that he's ended up the way he has. Helpless and alone, trapped with his mind shattered beyond repair by a god who tortured him just to vent out their hatred. He was XD's stress ball. Legit, the reason they went in and ruined him like they did was to let out all their anger and hatred and anxiety, and then they just fucking left and now occasionally pop in like once a week throughout the few months since to....idk....read him Tommy's self-insert sailor moon fluff/comfort fanfic :") it's the only time they hold his mind together enough for him to be able to think clearly.
He's a man who thought himself to be a god that's now trapped inside the cage he had built to hold his favorite toy. His toy, who is now happy and carefree and loved beyond words everyday, hasn't forgotten him, but he's certainly made great leaps and bounds working through the trauma his abuse inflicted.
it's just funny. they make me laugh, mostly from the relief.
that man is never getting out of the cell.
and that's just how it is. ironic, i guess would be the correct term
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