#i wish i can write more than i used to coz hh

[sexysilverstrider]

girl help the ppl who used to paint N as an abusive possessive yandere and touko as frail useless girl are now using the same tropes to volo and akari respectively

[whimsicallyenchantedrose]

OMG, you're right! I completely forgot that TLK was an option! Probably coz I haven't thought of Rumbelle as true love since S4 and every attempt they ever made failed, so they stopped trying at all. I'm kinda glad they didn't do that though, coz it means Rumbelle, even after everything, still doesn't believe they are true love anymore, and I can stomach that way better than all this Rumple is a hero with a pure heart nonsense. Like, this is so much more like them, and now he has a cont

cont motivation, they explained Belle away without breaking them up and Rumple will struggle with this the whole season, only to finally do the right thing in the end. It's more of the same old, but if it means that Rumple's HE is death after all, like I wanted it to be for seasons now, then I'll take it! I mean, I too mostly rolled my eyes at this episode, and while I had some feelings after all, they were kinda... muted? Like an echo, almost? From the part of me that still remembers the cont

cont good times and used to ship it, drowned out by the bigger, bitter part that can't forget all that happened since the proposal with the fake dagger. I was sad about Belle, though. And I feel bad for Gideon. Poor kid! I kinda wish he'd show up in HH so he at least gets to see his dad one last time before he dies. And I bet him and Henry would hit it off! I hope he goes back to Storybrooke to become the resident scholar/ librarian, find friends, fall in love and live an actual happy live!

I’m kind of glad they didn’t try TLK, because if Rumbelle got one and CS didn’t, I’d pitch a fit.  (Not that CS needed it; they got at least 3 other TL confirmations, but it’s one milestone I totally wish we would have gotten.)

I feel the same way about the episode as you do.  I don’t like that Belle and Rumple spent years totally isolated from everyone but their son.  I don’t like that Belle had to leave all of her friends and family back in SB.  It’s sad to me that, while decades passed for Belle in the Edge of Realms, it was only the blink of an eye for everyone else, so Belle’s friends and family never got to see her grow old or say goodbye to her.  It’s sad that Belle didn’t get to watch Gideon get married and have kids and everything else he might do as an adult, and it’s sad that Gideon lost his mother so young.  I get what they were trying to do, playing up the inevitable conflict of time when one spouse is immortal and the other isn’t, but it just seemed...sad to me.

And yeah.  I don’t know if I’d ever go so far as to say I shipped Rumbelle (as in I was invested in their relationship), but I thought they were kind of cute in seasons 1-3, but after the fake dagger proposal, I was done with them--and it only got worse for the next 3 seasons.  The writers are, of course, perfectly free to write whatever relationship they want for Belle and Rumple, but for me things went way too far off the rails for me to ever care about seeing it play out again.  I’m happy for Rumbellers who enjoyed the episode, but personally I’m glad that’ll be the last RB episode we get.

[j-philly-b]

So, ofc 7x03 blew my theory away immediately, but thank you for sharing yours in return! I find the idea that LT is an imposter interesting, but I doubt the writers want to use the wishrealm more then necessary (just the characters, ha!), so she's probably simply from the Alt!EF, and WWH left right after Emma did. I suppose Rapunzel could still be the daughter, or LT could be Rapunzel, but the two things are probably unrelated, and LT and WWH just crossed paths like you said. We'll cont

cont probably know more after 7x04, but rightnow I feel like Alice has more of a connection to Rumple. But, if I remembercorrectly, Alice had Daddy issues (at least the OUATIW version did), so whoknows, she could very well be looking for WWH and that’s why she’s travellingto so many places. Honestly, I wonder if Rumple knows she’s the daughter andthat’s why he’s keeping her in his back pocket? That thing about Henry’sdaughter being a weak point was very suspicious! But it would be cont

cont more entertaining to me if Rumple ismistaking WWH for our Killian, that would be a great dynamic! I’m not sure Ithink the writers are creative enough to come up with inception over bloodmagic, but aging down over blood magic was pretty out there too… Maybe it willbe used to identify the daughter? No, wait, I forgot the chess piece! But Iagree that the mother will be unimportant and therefore remain a mystery. It’sthe daughter that matters!

Awwww, my theories get blown away all the time! The fun part is thinking about what could be, because let’s be real, the stuff we all think up is way better than what usually winds up on our tvs!

I was thinking of your theories after 7x03, andI have to say that I’m more on board with the LT as a grown-up Rapunzel theorythan I was before. It would be an OUaT kind of twist for Rapunzel to have thewitch locked up in her tower, wouldn’t it? I still doubt that they’d turn oneof Disney’s princesses into a full-on villain, but it would be an interestingstory to explore if they do go in that direction.

The bit with Anastasia being only mostly deadand LT/Victoria looking for a heart to bring her daughter back was unexpected.We also know now that Victoria isn’t cursed, and it looks like the witch isn’teither. Another interesting bit of information, and automatically makes mewonder if there are others who aren’t cursed as well, like Alice for example.

I agree that Alice’s story is tied to Rumple,but to what extent? I think I’ve said a few times that Alice reminds me verymuch of Jefferson – unaffected by the curse, but crazy in other ways so no onereally pays attention to her. I’m starting to think that Alice’s brand of crazyis more strategic, that she went along with Rumple as a way to ride the curseinto the LWM for a specific purpose. Maybe to look for her father who shelearned has been traveling the realms looking for her? Maybe, at least that’swhat I’m sticking with right now.

Yes, in OUaTiW Alice’s father and stepmother(?)put her in an asylum, so definite daddy issues in that show. (I still can’tbelieve I watched that entire thing, I’m in the minority of not having been afan of any of the characters in that story.) By writing this season as an AU ofall their canon though, A&E have given themselves an out from thatparticular storyline. Maybe they want this version of Alice to have a slightlyhappier ending with her entire family?

The impression that I got from the promo wasthat Alice was holding the gun or threatening Weaver or whatever she’s about todo because Rumple told her how and when to wake him up from the curse, and she’sdecided that now is the time. Maybe one of Alice’s many “eat me” “drink me”potions was able to protect her from the memory loss part of the curse, andthat Rumple took advantage of that situation to guarantee he had a loophole tobreak him out of the curse early this time as well. Although I’m stillwondering if Rumple really is cursed, I do think that Rumple would have a veryhard time willingly staying away from Belle and Gideon for so long if he knewabout them and had a way back to them. (Whether or not Belle would want Rumplearound is another story, and one that still angers me with its handling by thewriters.)

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that thisseason is all about the children and what their parents will do/sacrifice forthem – LT and Anastasia (poor Drizzy, you have to wonder if she will be hermother’s downfall though), Hook 2 and his daughter, Jacinda and Henry and Lucy.I guess we have a clue what 7x04 will be about then, and I expect that we’llfind out on Friday how Rumple became involved in the alt!EF shenanigans. I’mleaning toward Rumple knowing that it’s Hook 2 and not Killian, mainly becauseit gives the writers a lazy way of bringing those characters back to beingantagonists and not having to develop the characters beyond sniping at eachother. I assume that Hook 2 gave up on his revenge against Rumple when Hook 2’sdaughter was born/he found out about her, and wish Rumple was locked away inSnowing’s dungeon. (Ugh, too much thinking about that ridiculous storyline, Ihave to leave this here before I start throwing things. Sorry, nonny!)

Also, interesting point that theirpersonalities haven’t changed that much under the new curse, I hadn’t reallythought about that before you pointed it out! I’m also sideeyeing LT a lot cozpretty frequent magic use?! What happened to that antimagic speech of yours,Milady? But I’m not that bothered by the way they are rushing Henriella, lookslike CS will stay the only slow burn grounded in reality on this show, everyoneelse is just fairy tale love at first sight. As long as it’s cute…

Honestly, LT’s reliance on magic, Victoriahaving a witch locked up in her tower, it’s all getting a bit heavy-handed atthis point, right? Similar to Rumple taking on the darkness to save Bae putthen falling prey to the power of the darkness above all else. LT and Victoriamake it abundantly clear that she is in it for the power, and now we know thepower has to do with finding a way to bring her daughter back. So she’ll find away to bring Anastasia back only to lose her daughter because of it? I’massuming that’s where the story goes. Then Victoria will have to choose powerover love, etc., etc., etc.

As for Henry “I only met you 27 minutes ago,but you knocked me out and stole my motorcycle so I’d like you to meet mymother” Mills and Cinderella? I don’t know, I’m not really feeling it yet. Ihave to admit to not being a huge fan of our current Cinderella, I’m not seeingany chemistry between her or any of the others just yet. Tiana (what is her HHname? I can never remember), on the other hand, that woman has chemistry witheveryone. I can see why they decided to make her a regular.