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#im not trying to say this is Problematic or Cancellable or whatever btw i'm just mad that a story about women's love and grief
ilikeyoshi · 7 months
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another day another annoying modern greek goddess per3phone girlboss take
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flamediel · 3 years
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i've just been seeing some asks about bts here on your blog and i'd like to clear some shit up because this isn't sitting right with me.
i'm really gonna be the last person to try to defend someone who's being colorist and racist, but on this case specifically i feel the need to reinforce that yes, bts had done some problematic shit in the past (specially rm) but i can attest that they've learned from their mistakes (again, specially rm). they have addressed so many situations that they didn't even had to because it was so long ago but they did because the fans were upset, they educated themselves and if you actually know the band you will see that it SHOWS.
they literally donated a million dolars to black lives matters last year and army went ahead and raised another million to donate 24 hours after. they apologized for literally every problematic shit they've done (and that doesn't include only the colorist stuff, i mean EVERY single stuff, including shit from the beggining of their careers, and if you don't believe me you can google it) and admitted they didn't know better but that they are learning, educating themselves, and honestly i don't see many people in the industry actually doing that.
in this case, as a poc, i personally forgave them because most of the stuff was a really long time ago and i believe they were being genuine in their apology and in saying they're educating themselves. that doesn't mean you also have to forgive but i think you should do your research better (in both what they did and what they said about it after being called out) instead of spreading false information.
every non-black person has a potential of being racist, most of them were and still are, because racism is something rooted really deep on our society. that is by no means an excuse, but just a way of saying that who your were in the past not always reflect who you are today and that you should try to learn and do better every day of your life. that was supposed to be the point of all that wasn't it? telling people what is wrong about what they're doing so they can maybe see it, and learn, and change, and make the world a better place, and only actually "cancel" them when you see they're not putting an effort in doing better. and i personally believe bts showed MANY times that they're putting an effort in doing better, and you can ask any other black fan and they'll tell you the same.
that said i think cncowners should be the last fandom pointing a finger at bts considering all the shit joel did during the black lives matter protests last year, considering all the times the member got caught saying the n word and culturally appropriating, and instead of owning up to their mistakes all they did was brush it all under the carpet and pretend it never happened.
also this is not an excuse for the fandom lol there are always gonna be shitty people in a fandom (and i think you personally know that very well lol) but in a fandom as big as army there's a lot more shitty people too. just because some army are colorist, racist, koreaboos or whatever does that mean ALL of them are? just because some of y'all were cncotheories does that mean everyone agreed with them?!)? you can't judge an artist by a fandom like that, specially a fandom so big. i'm not saying you have to love army and that everyone is great, because it's not and it can be really toxic, but again just like any other fandom but this time on a much larger scale.
ps: about yoongi using that speech on his song... he literally didn't know the history behind it lol and then people told him and he apologized, said he was ashamed of using it, that he's gonna be more careful with his samples for now on and took that part off the song on every oficial platform.
Ok im not gonna lie I skimmed this but let me ask you something.
Why does my opinion of bts matter to you so much? Like. I am one person on the Internet saying what I think and believe. Girl, why you so pressed.
You can forgive bts for what they did but I PERSONALLY am not gonna. Maybe they deserve to be forgiven, maybe they gave the best apology in the world (and btw, I DID Google it, and cannot find an apology for the antisemitism) but shit still doesn't sit right with me. Im not God, I'm not the High Court of Racism, im allowed not to accept an apology.
Similarly, if someone dislikes cnco bc of their shit then yeah thats fine and up to them, as they should. Different people address different issues in their own way, and if something rubs you the wring way and you don't wanna engage then don't. Go on your blog and say what you want about them all day if you want.
Now let me not go into the second part of your ask about how everyone is antiblack bc I WILL be throwing hands if I do and its just not worth it.
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littlebabycrybtch · 3 years
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Wait what do; SU crits have to do with to do with anti antis complaining about antis? I'm a little confused
oh yeah no i feel you, honestly its a confusing topic bc theres actually this divide in what 'anti antis’ consider ‘anti’ to mean now. the definition has kind of gotten loose over the years. most people still just consider ‘anti’ to mean what it was originally widely understood to cover, aka people who are against fictional depictions of pedophilia thats meant to be obviously positive/encouraging and to validate pedo fantasies. but other 'anti anti’s have been using the term ‘anti’ to mean people who are against certain medias or ships for other reasons, and thats really subjective so. when anti antis are out here talking about antis, (how many ti mes can i use that word), their definition of anti can range from people who are against pedophilia, to people who are critiquing Other problematic themes in media like homophobia/racism/etc., or . . . yeah, sometimes they do try to lump in specifically the people who are just nitpicking and cancelling unimportant stuff for selfish cringe shit, which i do think is a problem too. like, it definitely skeeves me out the way So many ppl seem to make up shit and grasp at straws just to obviously get to have an outlet for their personal preferences/bigotries and basically manipulate others with fake moral shit to get to say things like 14 yr olds who like su are cringey. theres always a ‘line’ or whatever, but ngl i Hate the way anti antis have made this so confusing, cuz it really just feels like a tactic, ma.ps are backtracking to make it seem like the ‘anti anti’ cause is more rational/less Batshit Evil of a thing to be, so they can keep getting away with harming others by simply changing the definition of anti to make them look better.
sO tldr;;; the reason i mentioned that stuff in the post was to clarify that, while i know some people out here use the term ‘anti anti’ for themselves to also mean ‘i dont like how cringe culture and purity culture have become so fake and selfish’ or whatever, i can see that part! but pedos can always get fucked. really i said it mostly to ensure nobody could be a dumb asshole and derail the obvious point of the post with the classic tumblr reading comprehension trick where you put words in peoples mouths yknow, aka something like ‘oh im sorry i have a problem with kids telling me what cartoons i can or cant watch’. giving them no space to backtrack lol. (but yea honestly the label just needs die, i dont rly trust anyone who would call themselves anti anti and willingly associate with that community just bc they have enough decency and common sense to recognize whenever purity culture happens to go too far or w/e??? like. goddd) sorry this response is so long btw it just rly has become so confusing lol, but tldr i made the distinction between things like ‘su crit’ and ‘against pedos’ because anti antis have been purposely trying to confuse the two mindsets to warp arguments to benefit their side.
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