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wee-snek · 7 months
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“Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out” Job 41:19
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I wondered about this on my first watch through, and I’ve seen ongoing posts about “wtf does this mean, why is this so important?!” because…why is this bible verse highlighted so much, why are we being asked to take notice of this? Whyyy?
Now this is just my interpretation, and it’s not really something that’s likely to be addressed in S3 - we’d need Neil to confirm, but:
Gabriel still appears to be intact when he’s writing on the box, and the last thing we see him do in Heaven is take the fly out of the matchbox. So, we can guess, that the last thing he registers before he becomes Jim!Gabriel is this bible quote:
Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out
And the last time he saw Aziraphale (well it was Crowley, but he doesn’t know that, obv), he looked like this:
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I wouldn’t forget this face in a hurry.
So we’ve got panic, confusion, an elevator stopping on Earth with one very disoriented Archangel looking for somewhere safe to go, a lingering almost-memory of an angel with the power to breathe hellfire when his life with a demon he loves is under threat, and the last thing you see before you lose your memory is this bible verse.
I think it’s meant to show why Gabriel goes to Aziraphale’s bookshop for help.
Because why else go there? Why even go to London?
Because Gabriel was scared of Aziraphale last time they met, the matchbox reminded him of that, and I’d want that version of Aziraphale on my side if I was afraid of Heaven.
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kameonerd566 · 9 months
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I have Good Omens brain ROT
Going insane bc Crowley was cast out of heaven for being too 'bad' (asking questions apparently idk I am still on the s1 finale ☠️) but he was ALSO cast out of hell for being too good!! Bc like!!! Its making me insane!!!!
Both sides of the dichotomy cast him out so OF COURSE he clings so hard to Aziraphale!!! Of COURSE he's always going on about how he hasn't got a side, he's got 'our side'!!!! Because he has seen first hand how flawed both systems are!!! He has nobody but himself and Azriaphale!!!
Then in contrast we have Aziraphale, who has never been cast out of heaven and thus still condemns hell. Of course he believes in the system so much!! Of course he thinks he can save Crowley by bringing him back!!! He thinks that the system is right and just because he has never fallen victim to its flaws (of course he's been chastised and reprimanded but he's never been abandoned by it)!!! And because he thinks the system is right and just then SURELY they will see someone as good as Crowley and welcome him back, right?!
Just!! OOUGH I AM GOING INSANE!!!! the dichotomy of good and bad!!! The demon has more empathy than the angel!!! The angel is more caught up on rules and appearances than the demon!!! The demon craves love and so he gives it!!! The angel has seen hate and so he fears it!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! NEIL WTF ?!?!!!!!!
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starlight-bread-blog · 2 months
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Me: I shouldn't disturb Neil Gaiman. I shouldn't send an ask unless I really have no way of getting the information otherwise. I'll check old interviews and all the articles that vaguely mention the subject. Of course it goes without saying that I'll read though the FAQ in its entirety. Only then, will I send an ask. However, I'd be very polite and praise his work, as anyone would. I'd also keep it short, because I don't want to waste his time. But I'd keep it very very respectful. I'd be sending a message to a very talented, amazing author that deals with god knows how many like me. Or I'd just stay in the dark and not send him an ask. Yeah, I'll do that.
My Dash:
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shoomlah · 7 months
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I have a feeling that beneath the little halo on your noble head There lies a thought or two the devil might be interested to know You're like the finish of a novel that I'll finally have to take to bed You fascinate me so
You Fascinate Me So, Blossom Dearie
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hansoeii · 9 months
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look at you, you're gorgeous!
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jhinthony · 9 months
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season 3 predictions
yes this is just a "moon's haunted" joke what about it
blank versions bc i like the backgrounds
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In 0.5 seconds and without saying a single word, Michael Sheen changed lives.
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This was the bitchiest bitch moment Aziraphale had in all 2 seasons. Thank you for your service, respectfully, I am deceased.
GIF credit: @wildsflag
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fellshish · 9 months
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girl help the eldritch horrors are organising a pride and prejudice party and making us dance to mirror their forbidden and repressed love. yes there is a michael jackson thriller video reenactment outside trying to get in. no yeah i still want that rare doctor who annual
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daiwild · 8 months
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Where did Muriel even find that book
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camilleflyingrotten · 8 months
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Back on the bench
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And again, and again…
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mad-aims · 3 months
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Erm…looks like we’re trending again.
Why?
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wee-snek · 8 months
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Ineffable (pre-2000's) Timeline
Before the Beginning 
We don’t know how long before The Beginning this was, or how long they may have known each other in ‘heaven’ before Eden. We don’t know if one (or both) of them had their memory of the other erased (I think there's quite a lot of speculation about this, so I can't link just one example).  
Angel!Crowley is the most adorable thing in all creation, but he asks some very innocent and appropriate questions and Aziraphale is scared for him (and maybe scared of him?) 
Crowley shelters Aziraphale with their wing. Adorable. Love it. 
4004 BC: Eden 
Aziraphale gives away his flaming sword in his first official act of doing-good-against-God’s-wishes and Crowley immediately fucking eats it up.
"You're an angel, I don't think you can do the wrong thing" is well-intentioned but probably sets up a less-than-helpful anchoring point for Aziraphale's morality (see various points below about Aziraphale's moral evolution trajectory and rationalising Heaven's actions).
Aziraphale shelters Crowley from the rain (and the best part is that Crowley moves in, closer to Aziraphale, BEFORE Aziraphale puts his wing up. Fucking lovebirds. Ridiculous) 
3004 BC: The Flood 
Crowley seeks out Aziraphale at the flood. Essentially just shows up to flirt.
Aziraphale clearly doesn’t like the flood-and-death plan but he also isn’t ready to speak negatively about God. He defends the flood as “not that bad” and goes all “no comment” about killing kids (because he can’t actually defend that bit). Not a huge fan of heaven already by this point, but either too brainwashed or too scared (or both) to actively say anything non-conforming out loud.
Crowley is appalled by the idea of killing children, has always been a rebellious little cinnamon roll.
“You still have one [unicorn]” implies that Crowley either doesn’t know the point of the Ark (unlikely, he didn’t show up here by chance) or he doesn’t know about the birds and the bees. (Is it at all possible that Bildad The Professional Cobbler/Midwife still didn’t know what sex and childbirth were? No solid evidence that he had any plan other than pulling the ribs out. He’s so stupid)
(Theory: Others have considered that this meeting was more involved than what we’ve been shown so far because 1- by the Job incident Aziraphale is real damn convinced that Crowley won’t hurt the kids and 2- “sudden rainstorm forces them together under a canopy” doesn’t actually fit with either of the times our lovebirds sheltered the other under their respective wings, because neither time was sheltering “together”. So maybe this sudden rainstorm is what Crowley is actually referencing and there’s more here we haven’t seen). (Theory 2.0 is this wildly long meta that basically is a dissertation on why the kissed during the Flood and I’m here for it).
2500 BC: The Job Incident 
Ugh, I love this episode. Nothing but endless love for our baby Bildad.  
Appears to be a chance meeting between them.
They BOTH DEFY ORDERS to save the children.  
When the bird-goats make a noise, Crowley turns around before Aziraphale says anything. He was HOPING that Aziraphale would catch on, he was baiting his Angel to see that he was going to save the kids. Which, I mean, we all already know Crowley is a softie and he’s not really tried that hard to hide it from Aziraphale in the history we’ve seen so far, so…tone down the evil demon cosplay, babe. We’re past that.
Crowley saving the kids isn’t surprising. But we actually have a big jump for Aziraphale here. When we originally only had the Flood and the Crucifixion in S1, the evolution of Aziraphale’s “defence” of Heaven seems subtle and slow between those two short scenes. But throwing this epic story in the middle? Genuinely a MASSIVE shift from rationalising Heaven’s plans for the flood to assuming he knows what God is thinking + actively collaborating with a demon and trusting a demon more than his fellow angels + willing to be literally damned to save three random kids. (Could easily argue that this seeming anachronism in Aziraphale’s arc [along with Bildad’s stupid hair] makes it all the more plausible that there is a magic trick happening here).
Aziraphale says that Crowley is “technically” a demon. (I see what you’re getting at there. I see you, Aziraphale) 
Aziraphale tries human food for the first time. Odd sexual tension. I won’t elaborate.
When Aziraphale is sitting by the ocean, he’s waiting to be punished and thinks that’s why Crowley came over. But Crowley doesn’t know this. He was just coming over to spend more time with Aziraphale for totally platonic reasons.
Crowley has the chance to take Aziraphale to hell as a demon, and declines (hmmm, foreshadowing us all getting our hearts ripped out a few short episodes later???) 
Crowley’s appearance: people have speculated on why they look so different here compared to the Flood and the Crucifixion. My theory is that the other to flashbacks (seen in S1) are Crowley going about her life and just popping in to flirt with Aziraphale, whereas with Job, Crowley is showing up to work. The Bildad getup is a work outfit, demon cosplay. Long hair and no sunglasses is Crowley being himself, and silly hair silly glasses is creating a character to play while hiding his eyes because humans are around AND he’s vulnerable when hell is watching.
Bonus happy thought: when they get the kids in the cellar they start bickering like an old married couple/BLATANTLY flirting and the kids are just...so confused. Fucking delightful.  
33 AD: Crucifixion 
Crowley seeks out Aziraphale.  
Crowley has changed their name.  
By this time, when Crowley says “Heaven’s being a bit shitty” Aziraphale doesn’t actually defend Heaven? “I’m not consulted on policy decisions” is much closer to “I know they’re awful but I can’t change anything” as opposed to trying to rationalise that heaven must, by default, be good. (See note above about Aziraphale’s non-linear moral evolution).
Not much else here except Crowley looking their absolute most gorgeous in all of history.  
41 AD: Rome 
Crowley having a bad day. A lot of people have written about how after the Crucifixion and everything else that has happened so far, baby bean is fucking disillusioned as all hell.  
Crowley makes obvious ploy to get Aziraphale to ask him on a date, and it works. Delightful.  
Bonus happy thought: the little pins each of them is wearing on their togas? The fucking angel wings and the snake? Nothing but love for the Good Omens costume department.
537 AD: Wessex knights
No idea if they’ve met between Rome and now, but I’m pretty sure they have? Aziraphale recognizes Crowley’s voice immediately, I feel like they’ve talked sometime (oodles of times?) in the previous 500 years.  
Proposed Arrangement. Aziraphale very dramatically declines for corporate reasons. Not so much “working together is wrong” but that “working together is against the rules”.  
Could possibly argue that this feels like a step backwards for Aziraphale since the Job incident. But I think, no? With Job, the stakes were high and they were literally saving innocent lives. Here, The Arrangement is presented more like cheating on homework. Like, this is just a report for work, I’m not going to risk being reprimanded for something trivial like faking a sick day. Because Aziraphale still wants Heaven’s (God’s) approval quite badly: he’ll risk his life to save human lives, but not to save himself a trek to a castle.
1601: Globe Theatre 
By the now The Arrangement is well established. Aziraphale puts up a very lazy fight against it, but caves almost immediately.  
We can see already that Aziraphale is concerned that Crowley could get in trouble over their relationship, but I don’t think he has really realized how much danger Crowley is in? Like, if he genuinely thought destruction was on the line, he might have protested more. But it’s still important here that Aziraphale is concerned with Crowley’s safety above his own.  
I believe Aziraphale asked Crowley to meet up at the theatre from what Crowley says about “you said we would blend in with the crowds”.  
Bonus happy thought: I’ve seen people speculate about whether the coin toss was rigged. I choose to believe they BOTH rigged it so that Aziraphale would go to Scotland bc Crowley didn’t want to go, and Aziraphale knows that Crowley can’t ride a horse so was totally keen to save him from that ordeal.  
1650: not shown
Something happens and Aziraphale does the “I was wrong” dance 
I wrote elsewhere that this could be a promise of something we will be shown in Season 3 -OR- it could be a Clue that memories are missing (see The Magic Trick You Didn’t See)
Also, despite all the wonderful suggestions people have from actual history about what these two might have gotten mixed up in in 1650, my personal prediction is that if we see this in Season 3, the actual Thing that led to the dance will be extremely trivial, like Aziraphale knocks over Crowley's drink or something.
1793: The Bastille 
Aziraphale gets himself in a damsel-in-distress situation and Crowley “has to” save him. Obvious ploy to go on a date. Flawless.
Crowley is clearly following Aziraphale around, since he showed up at exactly the right time. Zero coincidence detected.
Aziraphale has absolutely no issue with the executioner being beheaded in his place. Bit ruthless to sacrifice a random stranger for the cause of taking your crush out to lunch.
At some point, Aziraphale does the “I was wrong” dance here. Hopefully over crepes.  
1827: Scotland 
Crowley essentially just takes Aziraphale on a date to a graveyard. Such a mood.  
Some obvious moral struggles for Aziraphale starting to realize that good and bad are not black and white and that extenuating circumstances exist.  
Whether or not you believe that this memory was tampered with, when Morag is dying, Aziraphale essentially asks for Crowley’s moral guidance. He could have just healed Morag, but he defers to Crowley for ?permission...I don’t know for sure, but it feels significant that he wants Crowley’s approval here before doing ‘good’. That has to mean something.  
“Last I saw of him for some time” is, at most, 35 years between here and St James Park, which means they are meeting up a lot more frequently now. We’re not regularly going decades/centuries between dates anymore. 
Edit: As others have noted, the wording in this diary entry is actually odd because when Aziraphale is writing this, he MUST have already seen Crowley again for that last bit to make sense. Which means we actually probably have quite a lot of “us time” between the Elsbeth flashback and St James park.
1862: St James Park 
Likely Definitely not the first time they have met up since the Scotland flashback (see edit above).
I THINK this is the first time we see Aziraphale’s personal tartan show up? He’s now officially created his own clan on Earth and is NOT wearing the official tartan of heaven. He later gives this tartan to Crowley which is Significant. 
Since our last meeting, Crowley has been dragged back to Hell and, presumably, punished, for what he did with Elsbeth/Morag. (The time spent in Hell was likely not necessarily a LONG time but still seems like it was a sobering event for Crowley where he seems to catch up with Aziraphale about how much danger they might be in).
Crowley asks for the holy water because he now realizes that he may need to protect himself (and Aziraphale?) from Hell if and when they figure out the scope of his ‘breach of the infernal code’ and retaliate.
1941: London Blitz 
Accepted by fans as likely the first time they have met up since the breakup in St James Park. As with the Bastille scene, it’s very clear that Crowley has been keeping track of Aziraphale (if not actively just following him around).
Obviously, canonically, the moment when Aziraphale realizes he is in love with Crowley.
Immediately after this realization, Aziraphale also realises how much Crowley is at risk from Hell by continuing to associate with him. This does not stop them from having a romantic glass of wine back at the bookshop.
Photograph of Crowley and Aziraphale exists, no clues as to what happens to it/who keeps it after the events of this night. I hope it’s in the photo album that I assume Aziraphale keeps with his diaries and little drawings of Crowley he’s made over the millennia.
At some point, presumably on this same night, Aziraphale does the “I was wrong” dance, but we don’t get to see that. Yet.
(Side note: I feel like by this point in their relationship, it’s really got to sting when Aziraphale assumes Crowley is the cause of whatever horrific thing humans are doing. I mean, what in the past 6,000 years would point to Crowley wanting to actually help nazis? It’s not funny anymore, Aziraphale, stop re-traumatising your boyfriend with baseless accusations.)
1967: Soho Heist 
Crowley plans the heist in the pub that is literally across the road from Aziraphale’s book shop 
Aziraphale finally gives Crowley holy water – whether this is because he’s actually worried about the danger of the heist, or if he has just come to his senses about the fact that Crowley is in mortal danger from Hell and may actually need a way to escape them if things go pear-shaped, or whether he’s just acts-of-love reaching out....could speculate for days on that.
He gives Crowley the holy water in a thermos with his personal tartan on it. 100% on their own side. Adorable.
Aziraphale isn’t wearing his bow tie in this scene. He still has his tartan, but he’s wearing it as a cravat instead, with his shirt unbuttoned at the top. I genuinely don’t know what this is supposed to mean, but the costume department is too good for it to be random. (It supposed to be flirty? Like, ooh, top button undone, basically naked? And that just necessitated losing the bow tie? Is there sartorial symbolism here about a cravat vs bow tie that I’m missing? Tell me what’s going on!?!)
“You go too fast for me” (ugh, gutted every time) 
Additional event: year unknown
In their earlier flashbacks, we see them travelling the world for their jobs.
At some point they both end up permanently stationed in London.
My assumption is - that originally it was just the two of them on earth, possibly for thousands of years. Then their territory was limited to the British Isles, and eventually, when there were too many “oodles” of humans, they both ended up just looking after London.
So, who was assigned to London first? Because it’s not a blind coincidence they’re both specifically in London - one got assigned to the London first and the other one deliberately FOLLOWED.
I am still updating this as I re-watch and read other folks’ posts.
These are mostly my observations with a few additional things thrown in that I’ve seen people discuss already here on Tumblr. I will try to link to them best I can, but my Good Omens saved posts are massive and I’m not sure I can find all the original posts who's theories I’ve mentioned here
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holisticdirkmuppet · 1 month
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sweetest post ever??? 😭
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ozziyo · 8 months
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Tis but thy name that is my enemy.
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goosetooths · 5 months
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have some mercy my dude
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phantom-of-the-501st · 9 months
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Remember that this is not the proof that they love each other
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That was a last-ditch attempt from Crowley to get Aziraphale to stay
This is the proof that they love each other
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Their love wasn't just made real because they kissed
It always existed
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