#ironjoy

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TONY STARK BINGO MASTERPOST

Name: HogwartsToAlexandria

Card Number: 3026

Thank you so much to all the mods of the @tonystarkbingo for making this event the most fun I ever have in fandom and for validating all of us in our love and celebration of Tony and the rest of his iron fam 💚💚💚💚

COMPLETE SERIES of TSB works (52k)

Fill S1: Sober - Chirping Chipping Chips (don't come cheap) and other sobriety shorts - LINK - Teen - Stony, Supreme Family

Fill S2: Dark - Stuckony Winter Wonderland Fills - LINK - Explicit - Stuckony

Fill S3: Laughter - Velvet Glove - LINK - Explicit - IronWidowPepper

Fill S4: A Wedding and A Funeral - It is the wind, that shows you the way.  - LINK -  Mature - Pepperony

Fill S5: Cuddling - The One where Tony… - LINK - Gen - Stony

Fill T1: Tony Stark/Stephen Strange - Sobriety Shorts: Struggle, Stumble, Tumble - LINK - Teen - Ironstrange

Fill T2: Denial - The Three Rings - LINK - Explicit - StarkerStrange 

Fill T3: Slave Fic - Used up Good and other shorts - LINK - Explicit - Starker

Fill T4: Dressing Room - blue as the night sky - LINK - Teen - Pepperony

Fill T5: Tall Tale - You'll always have me - LINK - Mature - Stony

Fill A1: Dating App - too pretty for me - LINK - Teen - IronWidow

Fill A2: Sunrise/Sunset - Blue Blankets and Bright Giggles - LINK - Gen - HappyTony (IronJoy)

Fill A3: Free Space - Stuckony Winter Wonderland Fills - LINK - Explicit - Stuckony

Fill A4: Restrained - Double Team - LINK - Explicit- Winterironwidowpepper

Fill A5: Mirror Image - Trash, trash, tabloids are trash - LINK - Gen - HappyTony (IronJoy)

Fill R1: Steve Rogers - Stuckony Winter Wonderland Fills - LINK - Explicit - Stuckony

Fill R2: Bucky Barnes - Stuckony Winter Wonderland Fills - LINK - Explicit - Stuckony

Fill R3: Uniform Kink - Plug Me Up! - LINK - Explicit - Ironhusbandsshield

Fill R4: No Modesty - Happiness is spelled (without modesty) - LINK - Mature - Pepperony

Fill R5: Cheesy - Duty Calls - LINK - Mature - Stony

Fill K1 SWAPPED: Hogwarts AU - all that I think about you - LINK - Gen - Pepperony

Fill K2: Nerds - Security Check - LINK - Mature - HappyTony (IronJoy)

Fill K3: Car trouble - Hotshot did not drive to Malibu - LINK - Explicit - HappyTony (IronJoy)

Fill K4: Armor Kink - The key to your lips - LINK - Explicit - Ironstrange

Fill K5: Labyrinth - Two Things, Three Times - LINK - Explicit - Starker 

January Adopted Prompt: Breathplay - Reach the zone (don't drop the ball) - LINK - Explicit - Wongrange

February Adopted Prompt: Alcoholism - The Face of Salvation and other sobriety shorts - LINK - Gen - Stony

March Adopted Prompt:    Kink: Spanking - Sloppy Love - LINK - Explicit - StarkerStrange

April Adopted Prompt:     AU: Office/Corporate - Who's Boss - LINK - Explicit - Stony

May Adopted Prompt: Tony/Pepper/Natasha - Lights! Camera!  Action! - LINK - Explicit - IronWidowPepper

And a few more words to end my round: Thank Fuck for Free For All adoptions and Flash Bingos 🥺😂💙

Thank you again mods!!!

-Marie 💚🦋

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I don't think you're the right person to ask this, bit do you guys ever think that maybe Netflix Danny should've been paired up with Joy Meachum as his love interest rather than Colleen Wing? Because there's a part of me that feels like it would've made her siding with Davos feel more impactful, and there were a number of things in the first season that could've been seeds for them to go the Ironjoy route, through establishing Danny's history with the Meachums over the first four episodes of season 1. Plus, freeing Colleen from the love interest role would've given her some more agency IMO. Thoughts?

    Hi! I may not be the right person, but I’m happy to share my thoughts! I do certainly think they could have given Joy and Danny a romance arc (and hey, they dated in the comics, so there’s precedent). And I generally wasn’t a fan of Colleen being a love interest, because it’s a tired media standard for male and female co-leads to have a romance arc and because, refreshingly, they didn’t date in the comics* and still loved each other deeply as friends. (Though the show and the actors did a great job with the romance arc they crafted, so it ended up not bothering me as much as I thought it would.) My feelings on that tie into my answer regarding Joy: I don’t find romance-based character dynamics to be inherently more emotionally resonant than platonic connections, and so I don’t feel that switching Joy into a love interest role would have added anything significant to her relationship with Danny. I thought the show did a good job of establishing the strength of their childhood friendship, and their lingering (and complicated!) affection for each other, which, for me, was enough to make Joy’s betrayal as painful as it needed to be. But of course, this comes down to personal preferences, so you may disagree!  

*Fun 616-Colleen’s-love-life fact: she dated Scott Summers!

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Hmm..so Ironjoy isn’t dead after all 😎

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Another thing about Matt and Karen is their difference between Danny and Colleen is they serve two different purposes Matt is the fighter and Karen is the brain which work well together not against and while Matt can be smart and Karen can defend herself it’s what they excel at so the other person can never take the spotlight from them while Danny and Colleen are both fighters so that’s the issue right there they’ve made Colleen too strong so the spotlight is taken from Danny.

Exactly. I mean like there are shows where two action based characters can co-lead a series [Buffy springs to mind] however its usually what muddles the narrative. Especially if its title suggests the story is about one protagonist.

I think that’s why Matt and Karen co-pilot Daredevil so well. The show really emphasizes their strengths and weaknesses which compliment one another. Neither one overtakes the other there’s perfect balance in POV. I’ve never once seen Matt’s voice be undermined by Karen or anybody on DD because it is ultimately his story being told. Matt Murdock is the superhero/primary protagonist while Karen Page is the emotional anchor that keeps the series grounded. And their chemistry together is just phenomenal it makes their scenes fun to watch. Both of them bring something to the table that allows DD to function properly unlike the mess happening on IF. 

The problem with Danny and Colleen is as you said they’re an unbalanced dynamic. I know this might be an unpopular opinion but their co-pilot structure is actually the weakest element of Iron Fist. And IF2 established that. I found it unpleasant. This show has now after two seasons become so confused it doesn’t know who it wants to follow when it should be the titular hero above anybody. When a character is undermining the main protagonist like that you know there is a problem with the series formula.

This is one of the reasons why I personally prefer Danny’s interactions with Joy Meachum over Colleen; it works better and I’m not just saying that as an Ironjoy shipper bias. Joy is as much the emotional anchor and complimentary asset to Danny’s hero status as Karen is to Matt’s. She’s connected to Danny via childhood history and unresolved angst. And Jessica Stroup is outstanding individually as well as with Finn Jones, their chemistry is sensationally underrated. It bothers me that fans choose to write her off as just some ‘emo villain’ with daddy issues when she actually provides so much more depth to the show than they realize. And while lately yes Joy is dealing with some serious demons, her strengths are more internally based just like Karen.

I feel the same way about Matt/Karen/Foggy which I consider DD’s core; they function similar to Danny/Ward/Joy on IF every time they’re together which is not only the most entertaining thing about the show but its strongest trait. There’s balance and cohesiveness. And all the actors play off one another so fantastically which is why it was such a shame there wasn’t enough Danny/Ward/Joy or Danny/Joy in S2 compared to S1. 

So in closure if IF continues it needs to do some major recon because the formula they tried for the first two seasons is not working. Like I said Colleen needs to either get her spinoff or move to another Netflix MCU show. Having her dominate Iron Fist over Danny like this was a huge error in creative judgement.

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Ironjoy MCU Comics Moments Pt.2

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zatannazatara92 replied to your post “Another thing about Matt and Karen is their difference between Danny...”

yeah but Danny is too immature for Joy that's why Colleen and Danny are better together even though I do not like the pairing and am more of a Danny and Joy fan

I admit Danny does have miles to go before he figures his sh*t out but I would hardly claim he’s “too immature” for Joy that’s just silly. It might have been true in the case of S1 yes but he’s grown leaps and bounds since then. And whenever he and Joy are together its a very gentle soft vibe. Danny manages to penetrate her defenses very easily. Bring out the sun through the dark clouds if you know what I mean. And Joy is the type of person who wears her heart on her sleeve, she’s in tune with her thoughts and emotions which is why she sucks at lying to people especially to Danny and Ward. 

Joy and Danny have so much potential to be something great in the future. They have an undeniable connection, they’ve got history, chemistry, unresolved angst; they understand one another on a level that no one else does not to mention their journeys on Iron Fist literally parallel one another. Unlike S1 which heavily explored her character’s business aspect, Joy’s entire arc in S2 was fundamentally about struggling with her feelings for Danny. It was a complicated inner battle between love, hate, resentment [especially when it came to his relationships with Ward and Colleen], and betrayal. And in the end those undisclosed feelings proved to be much stronger than Davos’s influence which is what provoked her to turn on him. 

Risking her life to get the Fist back wasn’t solely about just easing her conscience or saving herself; Ward knew this which is why he says to Joy “I’d like to believe it was a little more than self preservation” in 2x10. 

Look I��m not saying its a definite possibility that Danny and Joy are going to happen. I don’t write the show but the ground work is there and they are comic canon. Most of it was done in the first season but during season 2 the IF writers had Joy carry the arc alone from 1-10. I doubt they’d do that unless they had a bigger plan for them in future. Danny and Joy’s story was deliberately put on the back-burner out of respect for the Ironwing arc and understandably prevent any love triangle elements.  

And besides all this S1 pretty much foreshadows Ironjoy heavily [x].   

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IF 2x08 is titled "Citadel on the Edge of Vengeance". IIRC, that comics issue was the climax of Danny's revenge quest against Harold.

Oh yah that’s the issue where Danny infiltrates the Rand-Meachum office building full of traps and assassins to get to Harold. But since its a homage to that storyline and Harold is deceased in the tv series that leaves me to believe either Joy or Davos will be filling in that role. I don’t know if we’re going to actually see Danny face off against enemies and traps like that in the series but I’m looking forward to what they did for this. 

I’m betting Joy is replacing Harold in this scenario because they’re saving the final battle between Danny and Davos. Or it could be both of them. However Metzner [one of the people behind the IF show] also teased using inspiration from the Power Man and Iron Fist issue #52 on twitter and incorporated it somewhere in S2. 

If you know that one its where the Iron Fist/Joy Meachum conflict finally comes to an emotional climax and they of course reconcile. Its a very character growth moment for Danny Rand too as he offers his life to Joy who [blamed him for killing her father] then refuses to take it in the end. And as we know Danny and Joy share a pivotal arc in the tv series as well. I can’t imagine them making these characters enemies and not following through with this storyline. 

S1 setup the rift between the two characters and now S2 is going to full steam ahead with that angst.So maybe they do a combination of Citadel on the Edge of Vengeance and PM/IF #52 in that episode. I hope we get great acting moments between Finn Jones and Jessica Stroup. 

This season has me both excited, anxious and curious to see how they put it all together. But I hope it doesn’t disappoint. 

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Ironjoy MCU Comics Moments Pt.1

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While many IF fans anticipate Iron Knight to happen etc.

I'm just chilling back enjoying my slow burn Ironjoy ship (which is also comic canon) while I wait for season 2 to drop in September😊

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Danny Rand + Joy Meachum

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Danny Rand & Joy Meachum Stills

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Finn Jones + Jessica Stroup 

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Joy Meachum & Iron Fist thoughts

So while waiting for the Punisher I’ve had time to marathon the Marvel shows again before the new series dropped. And lets just say rewatching Iron Fist I got a better insight into who Joy Meachum is. It surprises me she isn’t as beloved in this fandom as some of the other ladies in the marvel tv universe. Then again Karen Page for the most part suffers from the same absurdity; guess that’s what happens when the actress plays the part so well. I mean Jessica Stroup is damn good as Joy and gorgeous as hell. She brings a lot of depth, intelligence, integrity and complexities to the character and commands the screen every time she’s on. Its not really shocking to me as her previous works in other shows have been outstanding. But I think for me Joy Meachum is by far my favorite of Stroup’s characters.

Joy is so unique because she can go either way; bad, good or somewhere in middle. Either way Jessica makes you feel for this person because underneath that tough, sophisticated business woman exterior is a tortured soul; damaged and broken which is ironic considering her name. I’ve come to realize of all the characters on Iron Fist, Joy is the only one who wears a mask [metaphorically]. In many ways she’s very much like Karen. All her life she’s put up walls, refused to get close to anyone and strictly kept her mind on the company and her family. She even wears her clothes like armor to protect herself. Unsurprising. Joy didn’t exactly have it easy or a normal upbringing. Her best friend and his parents supposedly died in a plane crash when she was 10. She lost her father to cancer at 13. And we know nothing about her mother. The only person Joy could count on was her older brother Ward; a man keeping secrets of his own. 

Ward and Rand became Joy’s entire world for the past 15 years. She’d never formed any other relationships or interests outside of that. It kinda makes you wonder about what Joy fears. Her hardened closed off persona tells me she’s severely afraid of getting hurt again; of being loved or loving someone outside her blood.Though she loves her brother wholly and tries to help him and do right by her family; Joy deliberately forsakes herself from anything or anyone else and that’s what makes her such a tragic figure. I mean she spent years trying to live up to what she thought Ward was on top of trying to exceed her father’s expectations. she put so much effort into the company and for the most part made it better than what he father had done.

This was an ongoing trend for 15 years then BAM! Danny Rand comes back from the dead and throws her whole world out of wack. Just as Joy is content with the life she’d built for herself, someone from her past whom she loved and thought was deceased suddenly shows up. What’s her reaction to this? Terror and hesitation. If you really think about it Joy pushing Danny away no matter how much he screamed made sense. She’d already mourned him once and considering all the agony she’d gone through after the Rands’ and her father’s death these were just old wounds she wasn’t prepared to reopen. This woman literally thinks she’s seeing ghosts when he strolls up to her apartment. Nothing good had come into her life, why would it now? So Joy’s immediate response to Danny at every turn is to reject him. 

But here’s the kicker, no matter how much she tries to drive him away in the beginning there’s still that twinge of hope in Joy, a part of her wants to believe him so badly. Even after she and Ward drug Danny and have him committed to a mental institution, Joy still finds herself searching for answers regarding his arrival; if he’s telling the truth and where he’s been for the past 15 years. First she goes through old photos to see if the kid she remembers resembles anything like the strange young man spouting things off about her life.Then Joy does the one secret thing only Danny [her friend] would know about, sending him a package of M&Ms to see if he dissects the brown ones like they use to do when they were kids. Sure enough he does and Joy knows without a doubt in her heart its Danny. 

So what does she do afterward? Joy is torn between her loyalty to her family, the company and her feelings towards her childhood best friend. Sure she’s glad he’s alive but at this point Joy still feels she can’t afford any attachments. She doesn’t think there is any room left in her life to include Danny. And She’s convinced herself the girl he knew is long gone. So she resorts to push him away again this time at Ward’s behest by restricting Danny of his Rand name and rightful place at the company. This is the first time Danny glimpses the cold and cruel side of Joy which he doesn’t like at all. In fact her actions succeed in that he finally renounces any semblance of the bond or trust they once shared together; which ends up stirring him into Colleen’s direction. 

Unfortunately for Joy she can’t keep up the act any longer. Seeing Danny alive has already messed her up, but now its severing anything decent left inside her. Joy doesn’t like this as her conscience ends up getting the better of her. So on the day the Meachums meet with Danny and his lawyer to discuss a settlement, Joy goes behind Ward’s back and gives Danny the only evidence of his identity. A fingerprint under an old pottery key-holder, she’d been using, that he made for her. Ward of course figures it out right away, knowing his sister still holds a soft spot for Danny. It couldn’t be more obvious. Joy’s been living in his family’s old apartment, surrounded by photos of them as children. She keeps extra photos of them in a box at her desk; along with packages of M&Ms. Everything that reminds her of Danny is there in plain sight. Without realizing it Joy has been harboring her own personal Danny Rand shrine. She is either absolutely in denial or completely unaware of what she feels. But they’re there hidden deep.

Its funny because in all of Danny and Joy’s scenes together, the armor seems to crack. He somehow manages bring out Joy’s vulnerable side that she feels comfortable enough to confide in him. Danny is just so full of light and kindness that it cuts through the darkness Joy finds herself shrouded in most times. She tells him about her father’s death, what she went through since his family’s plane crash; things she hardly discusses with anyone. Not even Ward as close as they are which tells you something about the kind of friendship Joy had with Danny growing up. Now enter Danny trying to adjust as 51% shareholder of the company. He’s not very good at it but can you blame the guy? He was raise by monks for 15 years in a mythical place. At this Joy takes the opportunity to help him a little, maybe even get to know him again. For the most part they start bonding, Joy even smiles and laughs again in his presence. Gahh I can’t get enough of Jessica Stroup and Finn Jones’s beautiful chemistry; they’ve created this fascinating connection between the two characters. I live for that. Anyway they are however interrupted when a gang of assassins tries to kidnap Joy thus further straining any ties she has with Danny.

Now we get into the big stuff involving Ward and their father. In the midst of the Meachums being ousted by the board at Rand [something altogether painful for both siblings], Joy suddenly stumbles on her brother’s giant bomb that Harold had been resurrected and that he’d been forced to keep it a secret from her. Which means Joy had been living under a decades old lie. Danny of course found out earlier and only agrees to keep it from Joy to protect her from the Hand. This burdens Danny as he doesn’t enjoy being dishonest with her anymore than Ward. Joy is so conflicted, confused and shocked about her father she doesn’t know how to handle this situation. And strangely she’s more angry with Danny about the lie than at Ward, who kept her in the dark for years. Yet despite Ward’s continuous warnings that Harold is dangerous, Joy can’t let him go. Because like with Danny, Joy’s hope has been rekindled. And why would she regard Ward at this point after the lies and chasing him down for his drug habits? Joy sees her father alive in front of her. She wants that relationship again because she misses it. She needs it. 

As much as Joy wants to be happy her father’s alive she can’t be. Something prevents those feelings. And Joy starts noticing Harold’s dark, more sinister behavior. It scares her. He gets physically violent and short-tempered easily. And he tries to screw over Danny’s right to the company which Joy whole-heartedly objects to. Then there’s Harold’s dealings with the Hand which put Joy smack dab in harms way. By the end of Iron Fist’s first season Joy’s more damaged than ever. But its not the bullet wound that has her in agony its the betrayal of all people she loves. Her brother. Her father. Danny. All of them let her down in ways she can’t discern. And because of that she’s officially closed the door on everyone. On the verge of making irrational decisions based on emotion; something she doesn’t do being as logical minded as she is. Its landed Joy  in the cross-hairs of Davos’s feud with Danny and no doubt he will do whatever means necessary to take advantage of her fragile state.  

I found that Davos/Joy cliffhanger interesting because it was unexpected. You’d think he would’ve tried manipulating Colleen or Ward but no he went right for Joy. Why? What purpose does this serve him? What is he standing to gain? I mean if Joy isn’t that important to Danny why not seek out someone who is? The Answer is because Davos wants to hurt Danny and what better way to do that than use someone else he cares about to do it. Just think of the chaos Davos could create pushing Joy’s buttons as she plunges further into darkness and pain. And believe me I expect a world of pain ahead for Joy in season 2. But will she accept his offer? Her feelings for Danny are already conflicted enough to hate him or at least try to. We’ve yet to know Joy’s head space at that point nor how she even met Davos. One thing is certain though she’s hurting badly. Its gonna take more than hugs on Ward and Danny’s part to bring Joy around. 

Also why the hell was Madam Goa there? What’s she planning? Too bad the Defenders writers didn’t think to give us a tease on that.  

All and all I’m pretty excited for what S2 brings. Anyway these are just my Joy Meachum thoughts for the day. 

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Karedevil + Ironjoy *couch-time* 😍😍😍

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“In another life, this would have been romantic” 

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stevedoritoss

replied to your photoset “Danny Rand & Joy Meachum Stills”

THE CHEMISTRY

I KNOW @stevedoritoss !!! Danny and Joy make me swoon every time they’re onscreen together! 😍😍😍 Just instant magic! The chemistry between Finn Jones and Jessica Stroup is so vastly underrated I just can’t wait for more of their scenes in IF2!

I mean just look at these babies!!