#just your average helldiving experience

[jinkies-im-black]

i hate gunships lol

[armouredgoblin]

In regards to my previous post about Fem Custodes

I have a few points to make If I made you mad. That's not my problem. I still hold the opinion that they should not be a thing due to 30+ years of lore stating that they have always been men. I have heard a few arguments.

"Its always been political"

Well yes but actually no. Internally it has its own set of politics depending on which faction you look at. You can have politics that are separate to the real world. A good example of that outside of the Warhammer Universe is Helldivers.

Helldivers developers Arrowhead decided that they would not put anything that would represent the real world beyond the fact that humans exist. They rejected putting things such as rainbow capes and country based capes because it would take away from the actual internal lore and would cause division in the community.

The people that want these things tend forced into the media/lore to be the people who wont actually play it because they never wanted it in the first place.

"Its just a small change what's the harm?"

Its a step. One small step towards creating female space marines. If you can make custodes gene seeds work in woman; then you can make the space marine ones work in them too because who cares any more?.

Its an active attempt at slowly moving the Warhammer universe and turning it into the grey sludge that only appeals to the "Modern Audience" filled with the political messages that only goes one way.

I wanted to enjoy the lore as an experience separate to my own existence. I want to use this as an escape of this work but I am seeing it slowly being infiltrated and ruining the immersion.

"There isn't enough representation in Warhammer40k"

Who the fuck wants to be represented in the universe that is basically one constant war. Were the standard imperial guardsmen (of which contain both genders) eat what is called "corpse starch".

To be fair in the spotlight there is mostly the Space Marines which is an all male team of genetically altered super humans (the Custodes are further up that chain and are seen as even more powerful than the average Space Marine). Space Marines are barely recognisable as humans due to the effect of the gene seed.

However if people actually looked they would find there is plenty of representation within Warhammer40k. There are many factions outside of the Space Marines that have both female and males on the frontlines of this eternal war.

Factions: Eldar (Male and Female) Dark Eldar (Male and female) Imperial Guardsmen (As mentioned before) Sisters of Battle (All female) Sisters of Silence (All female) Not sure about them: Tau: I know they take from many species and I am not so sure what they have on the male and female ratio.

Errm: Tyranids: Alien bug species, fuck knows what they have. Chaos: They will defiantly have both, Slannesh will torture fuck you all.

Speaking of Slannesh While often referred as male, he actually can be both and neither.

"GW can do what they wish with their IP"

Yes. There is not much to argue with there. They could even pull a Disney Star Wars and state that everything from the next codex is now the true canon and everything before it no longer exists. In my opinion this would be stupid.

"Warhammer40k is for everyone"

Is it tho? You seem to be ready to throw out many people who don't immediately agree with you.

No media in any form is for everyone. People have a preference and can not like things.

Using myself as an example. I don't like sports games. Therefore I don't play them as it's not for me. I am not demanding sports games change the entire premise and add things to attract me to the game.

In short if you don't like it, don't force yourself into it. If you are interested. Experience it before making decisions. and especially before you decide that you can change the entire hobby to fit you.

Make your own thing.

Chances are there will be an audience however small or large it may be.

For those of you on the frontlines of the Gatekeeping Hold the line.

[galenwilson]

I'm writing an essay and I'm pretty proud of what I've got so far. I'm just gonna post three paragraphs here because if you follow me or find it on your own, then you deserve it.

But the [Video Game] Industry is one that ships tens of millions of product, not ones of millions, and the crowds who care about video games — from those who think it’s too gay to those who think it’s not gay enough — do not move the market. A diversion, but I’ve been kicking around a Minecraft video that talks about how Microsoft does not give a crystal shit about the “Minecraft Community”, because they do not contribute at all to the bottom line — Bedrock Edition’s ability to monetize free Java features makes it the only version that matters from a business sense, and thus, from a real sense, and the fact that fun easter egg updates are the only truly good and interesting changes that have recently been made to the game is an expression of this fact and nothing else. The hundred million or so people who actually care about the video game industry are not the consumers that are considered by the wider monetary environment of the industry; it’s normies, people who have a PS5 to watch Netflix and play a game that’s kind of like Call of Duty, and because Helldivers 2 was a good FPS at a time where it seemed like Call of Duty wouldn’t be coming to Playstation, it seemed like a good thing to pick up, thus lending it some of that casual crowd. I’m staking some credibility of long-term trustworthiness on this claim, I know. I don’t like to consider myself some kind of actual market analyst, I’m not invested in anything more expensive than a Steam Deck. Or anything on the stock market. But I base this claim on personal experience talking with people who are generally “normies,” average consumers who don’t otherwise care much about the industry, who also knew and played Helldivers 2. I started realizing how much the Common Man rules the world without realizing it after I had a few jobs where I have to actually touch grass. The Industry will not change for the whims of one white dumbass with “tiktok influencer” in his ko-fi description — ironically, I assure you. I hope the increasing unionization of the industry changes it for the better because the corporate side never will. Me personally? I’ll stick to the indies. I’ll celebrate the strange Double A success stories of Arrowhead and Larion Studios, while lamenting the injustice of your Tango Gameworks and Arcane Austins. I’ll keep my eyes on the Itch.io market for weird low-poly experimental stuff that innovates more in 6 days than the AAA scene in 6 years. I can’t change how others consume except by maybe expressing my opinions and reminding people of where the industry has been, so we might know where we’re going.