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[prismaticstreams]

Eight steps to finding your NF calling

Please note: NF = Intuitive Feeler in the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, or the “Idealists” in Keirsey’s typology system. NF personality types tend to overlap with Highly Sensitive People (HSPs).

Many NFs struggle to find their calling in life – and usually, for NF people they are searching for a calling, a life purpose. Generally NFs don’t just want a job, they want a meaningful career and vocational direction. Of course, for various reasons NFs may have to work at a job they don’t find particularly stimulating or rewarding. Some may work at a fairly mundane job to support their family, or to fund other creative, spiritual or community service pursuits. I have found NF people to be quite adaptable and are found in all kinds of different workplaces – not just the typical “recommended” careers for their type.

Of all the types, NFs have the most difficulty dealing with jobs and career choices, because the things which NFs at excel at are generally not all that profitable. NFs are typically most interested in and most skilled at various forms of creative arts, music, psychology, social justice, advocacy and community service work. Unfortunately these jobs are often less profitable than many other career paths, and the skills of NFs do not immediately lend themselves to make a great deal of money. This can lead to all sorts of problems, like the “starving artist” syndrome.

Nevertheless, many NFs do not aspire to be affluent, and do not find money or conventional forms of status to be terribly motivating. Yet it is a necessity of life, and it can be frustrating when you can’t find a job in the area that you are most passionate about. Personally, I have experienced conflicting feelings about making money from the vocational areas I’m interested in. Sometimes there is a sense of guilt, or a feeling that these things are too important to make them into a business. I get concerned that money may interfere with my motivation, or somehow detract from the real purpose.

I’ve come to terms with the fact that making money can be a positive thing, as long as it is done in an ethical way. Also, making a profit can be a really good thing, as it enables me to be more generous and give to others. As the successful artist and entrepreneur, Stephanie Rose Freeman says, money amplifies who you are. 

But I do think that dealing with the business side of things can make NFs uncomfortable, as many of these areas – for instance the music industry – are very profit-driven, and this conflicts with NF values in many cases. There is also a common frustration that our culture and society does not always value and is not always willing to pay for the things which NFs view as important and essential to life.

It does seem that the perceiving types have more difficulty making a decision about what to study or what career path to follow, compared to the judging types who are a bit more stable in their sense of direction. As an ENFP, I know that I change my mind a lot – and I’ve also noticed many INFPs do the same thing. I heard one middle-aged INFP lady proclaim, “I still don’t know what I want to do when I grow up!” If you are wrestling with this and feel like you should know by now, then you are not alone. It’s not just a challenge for teenagers and young adults – people of all ages have trouble finding direction and knowing what they want to do with their life.

So what is the solution? I won’t claim to have any instant or simple answers to “finding your true calling”. Besides, the concept of “calling” will vary from person to person. For some people, it might mean a spiritual purpose or mission. For others it is more about a career or a particular area of study. Still others see their purpose and goals in life to be more about marriage, family and relationships. For most NFs, I think the idea of “calling” embraces all the above areas, but some people emphasise one aspect more than others.

I would like to share some tips, suggestions and ideas that I have found helpful. This is not professional advice, so feel free to take it or leave it! I have a keen interest in psychology and counselling, but I am by no means qualified. The only qualification I have is that I am an NF, and I’ve observed a many other NFs throughout my life.

Here are eight factors to consider:

One: Write down your dreams and goals, and be willing to brainstorm all kinds of ideas – even the ones that seem wild and wacky. Some people find it helpful to do something creative, such as making a collage of their “ideal life” or the things they are passionate about. Others may be inspired by images on Pinterest, which reflect their hopes and dreams for the future. I once made a slideshow of images which music, which reflected my desires for the future and my sense of identity.

Don’t just consider your long-term goals here, but consider what would your ideal day look like. What would you be doing? How would you spend your time? This can help you get more granular and gain clarity about what you would like to be doing on a day-to-day basis. For instance, you may love painting, but if you’re an extrovert then being isolated on your own in a studio may not be an optimal situation long-term.

Two: Remember there are different seasons of life, and in each season there may be a different focus. In one season of life, I may be focusing primarily on my studies. In another season, I may put more effort into my friendships and community involvement. There may be seasons of travel, searching and self-discovery. Many will go through seasons of investing in their marriage and children. Allow yourself to go through these seasons, and recognise that each one is valid – even if other people do not value them or think you are wasting your time.

Three: Some people make the idea of “calling” all about having your dream job or career. This can be wonderful, but don’t be limited if you are stuck in a mundane job right now. Is there some volunteering you can do which would be rewarding? What creative areas can you pursue in the mean time? Do you have a business idea you would like to explore on the side? Is there a course you could study part-time? Try to see your calling and purpose in a more holistic way, and embrace different ways of finding fulfillment.

Four: This one is particularly for the ENFPs and INFPs: cut yourself a bit of slack. Most NFPs take longer than others to really work out their true calling, purpose and mission in life. People may judge you as unstable, flighty or uncommitted – but don’t take it personally! Many people, especially SJ types, will not easily resonate with NF values. They may find it hard to see the connection between all the different jobs and areas of study you have engaged in, but you will see a common thread among them. Don’t internalise the judgements of other people, hard as it may be.

Five: I really like how Mike from NF Geeks describes NF “path finding” and his recommendations. Mike advises NF types to look for careers that embrace the values of ‘transformation’ and ‘transcendence’. (See link at the bottom of the page.) This can be found in many different types of work, but those principles are important to keep in mind when choosing a career direction or path of study. Also, don’t just consider the kind of job you prefer, but the type of lifestyle and relationships you want.

Six: Be open to different types of careers and various ways of gaining an income. Some people have a couple of part-time jobs, or run their own business on the side. Many NFs enjoy being an entrepreneur, as it gives them lots of scope for flexibility and creativity – as well as doing something more meaningful. For instance, I’m sure that many self-employed life coaches are NFs! I’ve been really inspired by Marianne Cantwell’s book ‘How to be a Free Range Human’ which explores various unconventional career paths.

Seven: Consider what gives you energy and what drains your energy. When do you feel excited, energised and inspired? What gets your juices flowing? Introverts may want to be careful of jobs that require too much extroversion, as they will often end up very drained at the end of the day and will not have much energy left for their friends and family. Extroverts may get too lonely and feel isolated working from home all the time. Personally, I’ve found jobs that require a great deal of attention to detail can be draining, as generally these are areas that Sensors excel at.

Eight: See if you can find people living lives that inspire you – preferably someone you know. Get to know them and ask them questions. Find out how they got into their particular vocation or career. You might even be able to find a mentor who can encourage you and give you wise advice. However, be careful of trying to emulate someone else who may have very different skills and talents from you. Remember to appreciate your own unique gifts and calling, rather than copying another person.

Further Resources:

Puttylike: A Home for Multipotentialites

NF Pathfinding Video by Dr Mike Boudria

150+ Art Careers – The Ultimate List

Live Your Legend: Change the World by Doing Work You Love

How to Be a Free Range Human by Marianne Cantwell

Career Shifters Blog

[iwan1979]

career / personality test: mbti, keirsey, 16personalities.com

[mysterious-prophetess]

Tagged by @peachdoxie

So I'm tagging @makenzie-rush

[baseballjerseynumbers]

DaShawn Keirsey Jr. takes 89. Never worn before in franchise history.

[catmomjudy]

I’ve often wondered if Buck is the actual introvert and Eddie is the extravert in their friendship.

I was trying to find something else over the weekend, and came across some articles on PTSD/trauma and damaged extraverts (who then appear to be introverts because they become afraid of trusting people). Eddie certainly presents as an extravert:

He seems to have a wide acquaintance/friends group (other firefighters, like Julie and now Tommy; the poker group; the basketball group; the dispatch ladies).

His first day at the 118 was classic extravert behavior—he fits in quickly and chats easily with everyone.

When Buck is standoffish on Day 1, Eddie pursues HIM. He wants to get along with everyone and wants to be friendly with all of his coworkers.

He chats easily with others about THEIR deep subjects (his conversation with May in season 5 comes to mind).

Extraverts tend to have a lot of people they know and are friendly with. They’ll still have deeper relationships, of course, but they’ll consider any number of people to be “friends,” and they are approachable and easy to talk to.

That doesn’t mean that they share their own inner thoughts, though—it’s often surface-level. It actually makes selecting and nurturing people/relationships where they can develop enough trust to share that innermost-feeling-stuff more difficult. And it’s that trust issue that made me wonder if Eddie was an extravert who had trouble diving past the surface relationships because of past trauma. He does trust people, but it’s a select few (Buck; Bobby). Otherwise, people only see the surface. An example would be his coworkers not knowing that he had a son and, later, a wife, until it became necessary (worried during the earthquake and asked a direct question) or beyond his control (Shannon showing up at the firehouse).

Buck appears to be an extravert, but I was actually thinking about Myers-Briggs types for the 118 at one point (while driving in my car, of course!!) and realized that Buck isn’t an extravert at all.

Think about HIS first day at the 118–he was shy and hesitant.

Buck being a “player” in season 1 was more about making connections—reveling in being Seen. Plus he’s incredibly awkward when HE tries to approach new people—I’ve always assumed that the women he slept with approached him because Buck-in-pursuit is just embarrassingly awkward. See his first conversation with Taylor for the cringe of it all.

The women he’s dated have, in most cases pursued him—or at least put the first step forward. Abby called him repeatedly. While he and Ali obviously exchanged numbers, she is the one who calls him and asks him out in 2x08. He met Taylor and Natalia on calls, and they were both inviting and forward. The one time HE tried to pursue dating, we got Veronica.

He doesn’t appear to have any close friends (or even people he hangs out with or activities he goes to) outside of the 118 circle.

Buck is outgoing within his friend/family group, but that’s common introverted behavior—they build that group and keep it close (they’ll fight for this—lawsuit, anyone?), and are comfortable being chatty to people in that select group. Outside of that group, and the awkward conversation and stuttering starts. They don’t necessarily have poor social awareness (particularly when observing OTHER people—I.e. people-watching), but they overthink and internalize it, making them self-conscious.

P.S. A true extravert would have gone to hang out at basketball with Eddie even if he sat and cheered (and razzed) on the sidelines and then got to go out for beers afterward with the group.

(My Myers-Briggs/Keirsey geekiness is showing again.)

(Expanded from comments on a reblog, so yes, you may have seen this before. Originally written after 7x04 and later updated, but nothing in his current relationship with Tommy refutes this.)

(Edited 8/10/24 to correct error.)

[talonabraxas]

Science and the Rainbow Body

We have looked at some aspects of what modern biophysics, biophotonics, phonics (sound), and neurology can bring to our understanding of the Light Body. And the anatomical discovery of the microscopic primo vascular system and fascial tissue give us new perspectives on tsas, nadis, meridians, and the body’s energy channels in general. But at some point science is left in the dust. It cannot keep up with ancient esoteric knowledge, cooked for millennia in the crucible of direct inner experience, not intellectual theories. This particularly refers to the science of the Five Elements, and the loss and distortion of this knowledge in Western intellectual culture, medicine, and religion.

That massive misstep began long ago. While ancient Greece is taken to be the fount of our Western scientific tradition, it is also where materialism took hold fiercely, relegating scientists to the study of physical objects, functions, and ever smaller components. It’s only now, thousands of years later, that physics—and a good dose of Eastern spirituality—promise a revived view of a living, conscious universe. In nature, and in the realm of biology, it is grids of information-energy that rule supreme. Aristotle, Hippocrates, and Galen could not abide the idea of five intangible formative forces and downgraded the elements into gloppy fluids sloshing about in the spaces of the body. To be fair, this was in response to the Egyptian and Babylonian perspective, held for thousands of years, of the elements as deities. Empedocles famously called these deities “roots,” turning them into a proprietary system and establishing his place in history. But the notion of a space element, already an integral part of Pythagorean knowledge adopted from Egypt and Babylon a century before, was out in the cold. This left us with the fantasy of hydraulic fluids running the body (the humoral theory), which would pervade European and Middle Eastern thought right into the modern era—tainting astrology, alchemy, and reflected in the truncated four-part psychology of Jung, Keirsey, and Myers-Briggs. But while this artifact of materialistic thinking affected a hundred generations of beings, the true knowledge of elemental forces has remained intact, preserved in Tibetan Buddhism, Indian Shaivism, Sufic healing, and the Western gnostic lineages. That is a good thing, since they play a central role in the development of the Rainbow or Light Body. That is as it should be, since it is not myth that we are composed, mind and body, of five dynamic patterns of meaning and manifestation.

In the process of creation, of manifestation, the higher is separated from the lower: gravity and levity, roots and fruits, sky and earth. Now, we reverse the process, climbing back toward union. But a simple reversion to the primordial state, to a pure unity of warm consciousness incomprehensible to our dull intellect would miss the point. Our journey as an embodied five-elemental being is not just a movement within an illusion of time and space where “nothing actually happens.” The return is everything, and in many ways the fulfillment of creation itself. It is the ouroboros, the snake that devours its own tail, the completion of the circle, which is itself empty and contains everything.

This elemental transformation process is commonly portrayed in Tibetan thangkas and repeated in almost every ritual. Within a human skull cup we visualize five kinds of meat (forbidden foods, according to Brahmanical literature) and five kinds of bodily fluids. Their specific names are not important for this discussion, but they represent the Five Elements in their female and male aspects. This mishmash is the sum of our physical existence. Here is biology; here is embodiment; here is incarnation—being in the flesh. But here is the possibility of the birth of a new, non-material form as a vehicle for a renewed consciousness. These elements will be cooked and transformed into wisdom nectar, due to the magical addition of Om Ah Hung. In Tibetan, these three syllables represent form, energy, and consciousness, although I prefer G. I. Gurdjieff’s more colorful nomenclature of “Holy Denying, Holy Affirming, and Holy Reconciling.”

The reason for this transformative possibility in the first place is that the Five Elements exist within us in a multi-layered context. We contain the five material elements, but also the five original, pure Wisdom Elements, the cosmic spark as it were. The Hindu tradition describes five koshas or levels of existence, from gross to subtle, from bioenergetic to pure consciousness. The Buddhist world speaks of three bodies or kaya in a similar spectrum. The Kabbalah describes five worlds in a descending chain of existence. Whether we count in threes, fives, or beyond, the problem remains—how to unite the lower and the higher to create something altogether new. Traditionally, we perceive each of the Vajrayana chakras as the center of gravity of one of the elements—but containing an inner structure of five subelements. And so we have elements within elements waiting to be impregnated with divine radiance and to ascend to their true potential.

Cooking the elements

Down in the depths of our viscera, in the dark recess of the pelvic container, is a secret bindu, an energetic sphere, a “bubble” of immense import. The yogin or yogini will have long prepared, through visualization, mantra recitation, focused meditation, and the gathering of blessings, creative forces, and the richness of material, planetary, biological, and spiritual energies. Prolonged purifications have taken place, readying for this moment. Now, in this most secret of places, the alchemical process, the gestation of a new Light Body begins. Conception took place long ago, in different forms of initiations, meetings with the guru, or even a direct download from transcendent sources. Now the quickening begins, the “cooking” process. As in our visualized skull cup of animals and fluids, we ignite the fire in the belly and fan it with the reversed turbulence of our “downward descending wind.” The digestive and liver fire is harnessed, and winds are drawn down and held in the vase of the belly. The anus and lower doors are drawn up and sealed. As the sub-navel furnace blazes, the Earth mandala in the belly dissolves and is drawn upward by a natural osmosis, the force of levity, of ionic attraction, in the oldest dance in the universe.

Spiral dynamics

In this “mating” process, the flame rises up to melt the Wisdom Elements dwelling in the head. This inner heat or tummo process involves spiral energies. The heavenly father energies move clockwise, always. The earthly mother energies move in an anti-clockwise spiral, always. This is clearly seen in the way that a mantra circles within the heart, depending on whether one is self-visualized as a male or female yidam or deity form. The male mantra circles to the right and the female mantra always circles to the left (from the perspective of your own body’s orientation). Spiraling down, the flow moves through the chakras producing the “four joys.” But it spirally ascends to the head again, thrusting through the chakras with another more intense effulgence of innate bliss and the experience of pure awareness (or emptiness, as it is misleadingly called).

By this process, each element in its lower or biological state is transformed, united with and blended with its wisdom form. But what is very surprising here is that, in the Vajrayana tradition, the story somehow ends. We rest in this new state of unfabricated being-knowing, merging it with various aspects of mundane existence, including arising thoughts and feelings and experiences. All is painted with a new brush. The “doors of perception” are cleansed in a utopian brave new world of consciousness.

Beginning, not ending

But the journey is far from over. What has been described above in traditional terms involves a massive movement within the water-based electron grid of cells and interstitial tissue. It is a volcanic eruption and lava flow of the packets of massed biophotons from the cerebrospinal fluid and brain’s ventricles. We have every reason to understand that photons are the vehicles of consciousness—or that consciousness is an intrinsic quality of photons. And we have clear indications that the structured water in cells, tissues, and blood is the electron-source of prana or lūng itself. As a result of this co-mingling of side-to-side, front-to-back, and finally top-and-bottom, the Light Body begins to form in earnest. Each of the elemental chakras is now part of the Rainbow anatomy containing a mandala of subelements brimming with pristine Wisdom Element force. Channels, energy, and consciousness—tsa, lūng, and tiglé—are all benefactors of the primary template of all things: the Five Elements known as Earth, Water, Fire, Air, and Space.

Rainbow Body by Talon Abraxas

Rainbow Body by Talon Abraxas

[blueopinions49]

What's your suggestion for better understanding the mbti?

I'm "studying it" since 2018 or so, I read a couple of books (Please Understand Me II - Keirsey, one from Dario Nardi) but honestly to me the cognitive functions are mostly a mistery. I still feel them so vague that it's almost impossible to me to feel certain of one of my typing - even worse if we're talking about a real person and not a character.

I mostly stick to Jung and his definitions of functions. I know it doesn't help much but id suggest looking into different understanding of them. Personally I go about functions in this way:

Se: Extroverted World, Down to Earth and realistic, Imaging like taking a picture and staying in the picture in for long time soaking in everything that is objectively there.

Si: Introverted world and irrational, very subjective and its a use of small details and creation of step by processes to get to their goal.

Fe: Extroverted Emotions and use of the social understanding of others. It looks to understand others emotions and needs. Can understand Social networks better than most.

Fi: Need for values over the self, judges the world through what they feel and always has a need to link their values of things to most things.

Te: Categorization and Organization trough the need for results. Will focus on getting things correctly and organizing the environment to make "logical sense".

Ti: Introverted understanding of logic through a theoretical framework. Will usually try to understand things a bit more than Te users. Making sense of X things is their main goal. Not really getting the goal itself.

Ne: Divergent Intuition, Multiple Ideas, Cross-referencing multiple concepts, think of it like a detectives board when solving a case, everything is connected somehow to the Ne user.

Ni: Convergent Intuition, Bare bone Essence of things, pattern seeking in the internal world, NOT process driven, idealistic view of things.

This is a very simple way of showcasing my understanding of these functions there's allot more I could say but I think that deserves a post on its own.

[mimiteyy]

help this teacher had us do an Mbti test and keirsey temperament thing

and I already broke her activity cuz im like equally two opposite temperaments (isfj and infj)

[reality-detective]

Just to let you know things ARE happening behind the scenes, I'll leave this here 👇

Operation Warp Speed Architect Arrested

U.S. Army Rangers on Saturday arrested Operation Warp Speed architect Moncef Slaoui, the Moroccan-born pharmaceutical mogul who in May 2020 spearheaded the administration’s efforts to poison 300 million Americans by January 2021, a source in General Eric M. Smith’s said.

Slaoui largely flew under the radar throughout the Plandemic. The media seldom mentioned his name, focusing instead on publicly influential figures like Fauci, Birx, and Collins, articulate public servants who spoke better English. Our source said Slaoui was relegated to media obscurity because the administration thought he looked shady and that Americans wouldn’t trust him.

And Americans would have been right not to trust a man who spent 30 years as GlaxoSmithKline’s head of vaccines department and was working at Moderna when Trump picked him to helm Warp Speed. At the time, Trump called Slaoui “one of the most respected men in the world in the production and, really, on the formulation of vaccines,” but was merely parroting what subordinates Michael Pence, Alex Azar, Admiral Brett Giroir, and Robert Redfield told him. They and others, our source said, were part of a major conspiracy to deceive President Trump into putting Slaoui in charge of OWS.

Slaoui faced criticism for holding $10 million in Moderna stock options and working as an advisor to Brii Biosciences, a firm with sizable Chinese investments. To avoid a conflict of interest, he begrudgingly resigned from those positions, then began working with then-Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar—who praised Slaoui as “arguably the world’s most experienced and successful vaccine developer”—to hasten Warp Speed.

Our source said that Slaoui, despite resigning from Moderna, continued receiving payouts exceeding $56 million after the FDA granted Moderna emergency-use authorization on December 8, 2020.

However, the military was less interested in Slaoui’s financial motivations than his knowledge that Moderna’s experimental vaccine had killed 34 of 600 Phase II trial participants in June 2020. White Hats, our source said, now have a wealth of evidence—physical and digital documents authored by Slaoui—proving he knew the vaccine caused myocarditis and potentially lethal blood clots but never publicly disclosed that information, even after Trump personally asked him if the shots were truly safe and effective.

“We have a treasure chest of incriminating evidence on Slaoui. This guy was one of the biggest violators of the Plandemic. We got a letter he wrote to Pence, saying he knew vaccines would kill people and that they could blame Trump for pushing Operation Warp Speed on the public. We have tons more that will be made available when he faces a military tribunal and hopefully gets hanged. We had more than enough proof to get him,” our source said.

The arrest, he added, came after Gen. Smith talked with Colonel J.D. Keirsey, a White Hat council member and commander of the 75th Ranger Regiment, the U.S. Army’s premier light infantry unit and special operations force within the United States Army Special Operations Command.

On Saturday morning, Rangers bashed down the door to Slaoui’s 7,500-sq-ft home in Zebulon, North Carolina. One of his three sons, Hussein Mohamad Abdul Slaoui, was present and pulled a pistol on the Rangers. He was shot dead, and the Rangers took Slaoui into custody. He shouted, “sayantaqim li allah,” or “Allah will avenge me,” as the Rangers shoved him into a civilian vehicle.

“We got him. We got the bastard,” our source said. “He’s just one of many. But we’re chipping away at them.”

As an aside, Slaoui was fired from chairman of the board of directors of Galvani Bioelectronics, a subsidiary of GlaxoSmithKline, in March 2021 after several young male employees accused him of sexual harassment.

[wickedslip]

HOW ABOUT WE DISSECT THE PERSONALITY OF OUR FAVORITE NEIGHBORHOOD WITCH; I’ve indicated that Nausi is an INTJ to a perfect T.   The INTJ: introverted, intuitive, thinking, and judging.

Sometimes referred to as the "Architect" or the "Strategist," Nausi is highly analytical, creative, and logical.She is independent, ambitious, and has goal-oriented traits. Super logical and well-informed—she loves staying caught up on the latest facts and events of the world and her city (this trait is already super important / relevant as she is a witch, which defines her, first and foremost). She is highly curious and has a passion for learning and knowledge but is willing to consider multiple points of view and reconsider their opinions considering new information.

Being that Nausi is tortured by her art, she is always wanting to develop different strategies and medium for control. She goes to school to learn everything she can to try and cope with the stresses of it. If she can take it apart, she can get a better understanding and grasp on it so it can’t get a grasp on her.

INTJ subtypes:

INTJ-A: This subtype is known as the Assertive Architect. An INTJ-A tends to have more self-confidence than an INTJ-T, particularly when handling life’s ups and downs.  If things don't go the way they expect, an INTJ-A is not likely to second-guess their initial actions or experience regret.

INTJ-T: This subtype is known as the Turbulent Architect and has a greater concern about the areas where they may fall short, whether in reality or perception. They also tend to use this concern to their advantage by pushing themselves harder and paying more attention to detail.

Nausi is highly intuitive, and she does take matters to heart, especially as she has an altered sense of perception.  While she does have self-confidence in her achievements and obtaining her goals, her past often foreshadows her, and makes her constantly question herself. With the loss of her brother, she has the aspect of always falling short, losing herself in the process. But on the same token, she pushes herself, her craft, her goals and her abilities to extremes to make up for what she considers as her failures. In this regard, she is an INTJ-T.

RARITY.

According to psychologist David Keirsey, approximately 1% to 4% of the population has an INTJ personality type. This makes those with this personality quite rare.

KEY CHARACTERISTICS.

Independent

Logical

Productive

Analytical

Organized

Reserved

Quiet

Creative

Capable

Controlling

Single-minded

Innovative

Relentless

Curious

EVERDAY LIFE.

INTJs tend to be introverted and prefer to work alone. Nausi is self-confident and hard-working, which is a strength. However, it can also be a weakness as they may come across as insensitive or callous.

As an INTJ, Nausi looks at the big picture and focuses on abstract information rather than concrete details. She also tends to be a perfectionist.

She tends to emphasize logic and objective information rather than subjective emotions, and talking about emotions makes them uncomfortable.

INTJs like a world with control and order. As a result, Nausi prefers to make plans well in advance. Some INTJs may even employ manipulation to get a specific outcome.

Nausi is a creature of habit. She is independent and has only RECENTLY allowed help at the apothecary. She operates and thrives on productivity, both in her art, her work, and her crafts. You won’t find creepy cobwebs hanging throughout the apothecary, as she is orderly and organized, sometimes even closing the whole shop just to give it a deep clean before reopening. She is a very inward girl, highly reserved and very much introverted in every aspect. Because of this, she keenly hones into her crafts to the point of single-minded precision, not stopping or giving up unless it’s perfect. Very driven and innovated with her ideas and the way she gathers information to make decisions, she always creates new ways of reinventing herself.

STRENGTHS.

Enjoys theoretical and abstract concepts

High expectations

Good at listening

Takes criticism well

Self-confident and hard-working

WEAKNESSES.

Can be overly analytical and judgmental

Very perfectionistic

Dislikes talking about emotions

Sometimes seems callous or insensitive

Nausi has a very vivid imagination, and she thinks outside of the box, often gathering thoughts and ideas of fancy that no other sane person would think of. On the same token, sometimes she has this inclination that everyone thinks the same way she does, since she isn’t involved with lots of people like others would. She prefers to surround herself with likeminded individuals when she wants to be surrounded at all. She has high expectations for friendships and relationships, and for those she wants to impress (even if she doesn’t think she needs to impress them). Since she doesn’t talk a lot, she listens and hears everything, even when others might not think she’s heard them. She doesn’t give confirmation as she considers it small talk—something she doesn’t care to do. With someone like Nausi, you wouldn’t think she would attune herself to constructive criticism, but she does well with it. She likes to hear other’s points of view, seeing how it might contrast to hers. She is self-sufficient and has an air of confidence, most indebted to her hard work, Rosethorns Apothecary, and honed skills.

On the other hand, while she takes criticism well, it’s on a case-by-case basis. She can be very hard on herself and judges not only others but what she does and how she reacts to certain situations. She does not forgive easily, and as her original coven betrayed her, she has still not forgiven them for what they did. She cannot fathom being a part of something that is so wrong in their actions, that the end narrowly justifies the means. She surrounds herself in her day-to-day tasks, whether it is work at the shop or her courses, just so she doesn’t have to think about the past. She would rather achieve, to the point of being OCD, her goals from the smallest down to the largest with precision, even if attainability seems impossible. She cannot stand talking about her feelings and emotions, and that is why she hasn’t wanted to reach out to a therapist. Having someone pick at her brain, and dissect her on a table, would be torture for her. Because she is reserved others might take this as apathetic or emotionless. And while she is apathetic, she IS fundamentally curious.

COGNITIVE FUNCTIONS.

There is a dominant function that sets the tone of a personality. In addition to the dominant, there are auxiliary, tertiary, and inferior functions that play supporting roles in making up an person's personality characteristics.

Dominant: Introverted Intuition (Ni)

Nausi, being an INTJ, uses introverted intuition to look at patterns, meanings, and possibilities. That means that instead of looking at concrete facts, she is more interested in what they mean behind the scenes. She also enjoys thinking about her future and exploring possibilities. She likes to consider all the possible options and imagine different possibilities, which can influence her day-to-day decision-making.

Because she is more of a big picture person, she tends to remember impressions more than exact details. So, while she struggles to remember the specifics, she is good at recalling the general gist or idea behind past events. Abstract thinking comes naturally for her. As a result, she is good at "reading between the lines / reading the room" to figure out what things might really mean or how to perceive something.

Auxiliary: Extraverted Thinking (Ti)

This brings balance to her personality. If she uses her dominant function all the time, her personality will be one-dimensional. While the dominant function drives personality, the auxiliary function is there to offer tips, directions, and support. For Nausi, it's the extraverted thinking that steps in to offer assistance. As a secondary function in her personality, extroverted thinking leads her to seek order, control, and structure in the world around her.

Thanks to this function, INTJs can be very deliberate and methodical when approaching problems. Nausi tends to make decisions based on logic. She organizes her thoughts to see cause-and-effect relationships and can see it playing out before her eyes.

Tertiary: Introverted Feeling (Fi)

Nausi is often less conscious of using this function and doesn’t necessarily feel comfortable using it if she does become aware. It tends to emerge when she is under stress.

This function involves her being able to grasp her emotions, including understanding her feelings and feelings regarding others. When it moves to the forefront, she makes decisions based on emotion rather than logic and in greater attention in detail. As a result, she is more drawn to people and activities that are aligned with her values.

Inferior: Extraverted Sensing (Se)

The inferior function is the least developed part of Nausi’s personality. It is not used often, and when she does, she runs into problems. It represents the polar, extreme opposite of her dominant function.

With her specific personality, extraverted sensing is the least developed of her cognitive functions. While weak, it still exerts influence. This allows her to process information through her senses—it would also explain why she has great difficulty getting control on her premonitions.

When she uses the inferior, she can become distracted by herself, becoming less confident with her decisions than she normally would, feeling the need to perform and project, becoming a people pleaser.

PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS.

Nausi is introverted and reserved and spends a lot of time in her head. She works best by herself and strongly prefers her solitude in personal, hobbies and work environments.

While she tends not to be particularly interested in other people's thoughts and feelings, Nausi does care about the emotions and feelings of the select few she is close to. In personal relationships, she is willing to devote time and energy toward making her relationships successful.

She sees little value in social rituals and small talk, making it more difficult to get to know others in different social groups. Others might view her as cool, aloof, and disinterested, which can make forming new friendships with her challenging. This explains why she doesn’t want to belong to a coven, even if there was no betrayal. She prefers her solitude and works best as a solitary witch, solely relying on herself.

COMPATIBILITY.

Il figlio del diavolo? All ill omens aside, personality types that mesh well with hers, and potentially when making good relationship choices, include ENFP, ENTP, and ESTP. INTJs, as a whole, tend to have less compatibility with someone who is an ISFP, ISFJ, or ESFJ personality type.

CAREER PATHS.

When Nausicaä develops an interest in something, she strives to become as knowledgeable and skilled as she can in that area. She has high expectations and holds herself to the highest possible standards. INTJs are good at gathering information from the outside world, analyzing it, and reaching new insights. She tends to be very analytical and logical.

She values information, knowledge, and intelligence, and would make excellent scientists, detectives and mathematicians. INTJs also tend to do particularly well in fields that require efficiency and the ability to interpret complex information, such as engineering, academia, law, and research.

INTJs typically do well in careers that integrate their strong ability to understand and evaluate complex information with their ability to put this knowledge into practice. Careers that allow the INTJ to work independently and autonomously are also ideal.

POPULAR INTJ CAREERS.

Scientist

Mathematician

Engineer

Dentist

Detective

Doctor

Teacher

Judge

Lawyer

COVEN LEADER

SMALL BUSINESS OWNER

TRAINER OF WITCHERY

MEDIUM

TIPS FOR INTERACTION.

If you have a NAUSI in your life, here are tips for interacting with her based on your specific relationship.

Friendships

She tends to be solitary and self-sufficient, so establishing friendships can sometimes be difficult. Because she is an INTJ who tends to think so much of the future, she may avoid getting to know people because of her belief that a long-term friendship will just not work out, so why bother.

The good news is that while she may not have a lot of friends, those that she does become very close and committed to, she cultivates and cares for. INTJs tend to prefer friends who are also introverted, rational, and low on emotional drama. Anything more, she will vehemently disregard out of her circle.

Parenting

If she ever became a parent ( yeah not in this lifetime—the curse ends here, mate ) , being an INTJ she is typically not high on affection. INTJs have high expectations for children and offer support by helping children think logically when faced with decisions. They encourage children to be self-directed critical thinkers who are capable of solving problems on their own.

For INTJ children, they focus on finding ways to encourage their intellectual strengths but try to find a balance to avoid excessive perfectionism. They need to develop their emotional strengths and find ways to express their feelings, something that Nausi is specifically stunted with from an early age. Imagine her bringing another person into this world that she must ultimately be responsible for. It’s a no for her.

Relationships

Because she can be difficult to get to know, romantic relationships with Nausi and any other INTJ can falter. Loyalty and understanding are important and are the key foundations for success. Don't be afraid to show your dedication, but also don't pressure them to spill their emotions. Communication is critical when in a relationship with her. Rather than expecting her to pick up on your subtle cues (or fragility), focus on being straightforward or even blunt about what you expect.

TAKEAWAYS.

It’s important to remember that Nausi is unique. No one is just like her or anyone else. Learning your own personality, and its traits, will help you to better understand your own tendencies, appreciate the value in your strengths, and feel prepared to deal with some of the challenges you may face with them. She’s an icy little spitfire. Good luck.

[melliae]

MBTI(?): Philemon & Nyarlathotep

Okay, there’s not much to explain about this. The title is quite self-explanatory… Though I lied a little bit, because the only thing I’m using MBTI for to type Philemon and Nyarlathotep is the code/letters of the types, with every other piece of content being derived from these sources:

Jung’s “Psychological Types”

Marie-Louise von Franz’s “Lecture on Jung’s Typology”

Daryl Sharp’s “Personality Types: Jung’s Model of Typology”

David Keirsey’s “Please Understand Me II” (Which, all around, I find quite useful)

Naturally, the conclusions derived from (most of) these are widely different regarding the more known MBTI. The more glaring is, first and foremost, the nature of the Judgement facet: In MBTI, it’s commonly used to indicate the first extraverted function due to, if I’m not wrong, modifications on Isabella Briggs Myers's part; in the method I’m using, it’ll refer to the nature of the dominant function, independent if it’s introverted or extraverted.

The second difference is the attitude of consciousness. In MBTI, the attitude of the functions follow the ie/ie and ei/ei pattern, where both the conscious (first half) and the unconscious (second half) are introverted and extraverted. I’m not going to explain why, since there’s already a better source here (pitifully, it was removed...), but Jung’s writings differ since he proposed that consciousness is purely introverted or extraverted, not mixed; meanwhile, the unconscious adapts the contrary attitude to compensate for consciousness, with no mixing of attitudes again.

Between these two things, the types belonging to the MBTI and those that Jung wrote about are completely incompatible: while a MBTI ISTJ has Si - Te - Fi - Ne, a “jungian” one has Ti - Si - Ne - Fe. And as I stated, I’m going to follow this last pattern due to some personal choices.

Now, let’s begin the typing.

A World of Mythology and Possibilities

Okay, first and foremost, Persona is a series defined by the perceiving axis of introverted sensation (Si) and extraverted intuition (Ne): It’s about a secondary world - the Sea of Souls/Collective Unconscious and its countless worlds - composed out of the memories and experiences of all living beings (Si), and where several possible universes (Ne) join.

But why do I connect these things with those respective functions? For that, let’s analyze the attitudes:

Extraversion: Arguably, this is the easiest attitude to describe since it’s the most observable one due to its nature. Extraversion is the attitude that focuses on the object and the external world, in the happenings of the moment and things that can happen, as well as its elements and laws. It’s the constant “outpouring” of libido towards the objects, attracting consciousness towards it and establishing an “emotional” (not feeling, though) connection towards them.

Introversion: As Edogawa put it in his class, this attitude is attuned to the personal sphere - to one’s own thoughts, feelings, valorations, sensations, experiences, hunches, and so forth. It’s the attitude that correlates with the internal reality of the person, retaining all libido within the subject itself while withdrawing consciousness from the external world because there’s no clear “emotional” connection with it.

That's essentially the biggest difference: One’s turned to the outside world and everything it has to offer, thereby being mostly public, responsive and ultimately localized in the space and time correspondent to the world (if not necessarily society), adapting and working with it in impeccable ways; the other it’s turned to tself, to their inner world and reality, being more withdrawn, distant, and quite personal to the point they may be unable to adapt to the outside world and will likely have problems working with it.

And really, I need to hammer those points, because extraversion and introversion, in a psychoanalytic way, aren’t about “recharging energy” or “sociability”. They are about the focus of an individual, to where their mind and energy naturally goes. An introverted may be sociable and approachable, maybe even a leader, but they need to work to be able to do so, because that’s not what they naturally are, and maybe they won’t be able to fully go beyond their quiet or reserved attitude; and the contrary happens with an extraverted, needing to work to connect with their own authenticity and individuality, to form a meaning and relationship that exists only in, by and for themselves, with no references to the outside world.

With this in mind, it’s not surprising that I think of the physical and normal world as an extraverted thing, while the Sea of Souls is introverted. In fact, the Collective Unconscious is called “内なる宇宙” in Arena, or “Inner Universe”. This can be further justfed by the fact that introversion, due to its focus on the subject, is “timeless” in a way, existing independently of the external world and only tied to the own subject’s perceptions and judgments - fitting for the timey-wimey nature of the Sea as seen through the entire series.

(However, it’s quite rare for an introvert to be that independent of the outside world. After all, an individual also has a very real and effective unconscious, which balances the conscious attitude with the contrary one, even if it's in a delayed, clumsy and even archaic way)

So now, why sensation for introversion and intuition for extraversion? Well, before the definition, I need to clarify something: The functions are divided into rational ones - Thinking and Feeling - and irrational ones - Sensation and Intuition. They are called that because the rational functions make decisions, while the irrationals only perceive the (internal/external) objects.

Obviously, any individual has a conscious function of each type to perceive a thing and make a decision. Their correlation changes and that’s what determines the nature of a type. However, the existence of a particular and conscious function implies the existence of the other at an unconscious level due to its compensatory nature: conscious thinking implies unconscious feeling and vice versa, conscious sensation implies unconscious intuition and vice versa, and everything attuned to the complementary attitudes of the conscious and unconscious.

Naturally, the Sea of Souls must be an irrational thing. It’s a place. It can’t make any judgment or decision, unlike an individual. But to understand towards which introverted function goes, we need to understand the functions:

Introverted Sensation (Si) is all about concrete sensations, but of internal nature. It doesn’t only have to do with succinct sensations, without any outside input, but also about the impressions they leave within the mind, the qualia of the individual. So not only memories fall in this classification too, but also the recognition of internal and psychic images and processes, just as Extraverted Sensation "detects" outside objects and processes.

Introverted Intuition (Ni) is about the “empty space” of the objects within the internal world of an individual, and the relationship between the contents that lie there. It sees what joins the psychological phenomenons, what creates them - the archetypes themselves, the unconscious patterns of the mind. It sees the relationship and meaning of the internal images of Si, going beyond them as they are nothing but a symbol of something else.

While the direct mention of archetypes could point towards Ni, the Sea of Souls is not itself about relations. Quite the contrary. It’s all about concrete (and symbolic) things regarding the personal, human nature. You can see it in every game, with the distinct worlds it holds as well as the numerous characters and entities that inhabit it, born out of the feelings, thoughts and interpretations of all living beings - about both individual and (somehow) collective qualia.

“Introverted sensation apprehends the background of the physical world rather than its surface. The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, of the primordial images which, in their totality, constitute a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror with the peculiar faculty of reflecting the existing contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but, as it were, sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year-old consciousness might see them.” - Psychological Types

Personas, Shadows, Demons, and Gods - all of them are entities born out of the collective, but ultimately quite personal view of life. Even the archetypes themselves, which should be all about Ni and the meaning of the psychological realm, are written as entities that not only are symbols of certain psychic processes and wishes, but that they themselves are those wishes and processes. Damn, their realm is directly called the “dreamlands” by Igor, and dreams fall 100% under Si since they are full of concrete and internal images, not relations.

And as I said before, a function always implies their contrary, and Introverted Sensation always implies Extraverted Intuition (Ne), which sees the “absence” between physical objects as possibilities and things that can happen: just as internal things are seen as symbols for archetypical things, external objects are seen as indicators of what’s about to happen externally. And Ne fits marvelously with the idea of not only the multiple worlds inhabiting the Sea, but also the very own physical multiverse that exists in the real world - everything that can happen.

Now, in particular, Philemon and Nyarlathotep are described as “incarnations of the collective unconsciousness”, from which every “soul comes from”. By definition, the two of them must have Si and Ne (and the same likely applies to every other antagonist hailing from the Collective Unconscious).

However, it’s obvious they are not the same. Philemon described himself and Nyarla as “sides of the same coin, inseparable from each other”. This tells us that they have not only different types, but contrary and complementary ones - they share the same functions. And I think certain quote on Nyarla’s part is indicative of that... quite indicative, indeed

That's peak Introversion vs Extraversion

In essence, Philemon is the one who slowly, but reliably guides the protagonists, appearing very few times and being ultimately only present as such within the furthest depths of the Collective Unconscious, in the internal reality of life. He is a distant and passive watcher (I), but ultimately being present within the journey of P1 and both P2 as a stable presence (S).

Nyarlathotep, on the other hand, is the tricky, devil figure, only appearing at the end of the games, but with his presence encroaching every point of the story. He’s an “ever-changing” and abstract figure (N), but nobody can deny how he manipulated everything to his favor, and how just overwhelming his presence is (E) in both P2. In fact, one may say that he made the two games happen - an initiating entity, which is certainly more extraverted.

In other words, Philemon is an ISxx, having conscious Si and unconscious Ne, and Nyarlathotep, being his “Shadow”, is an ENxx, having conscious Ne and unconscious Si.

Furthermore, considering what they represent is literally “stagnated unconsciousness” and “chaotic unconsciousness”, it tells us the dominance of their perceiving functions. That’s to say: Philemon is an ISxP, and Nyarlathotep an ENxP.

And guess what? Those types do fit. A consciously dominant Ne is all about the possibilities and futures the outside world holds, jumping from situation to situation without too much waiting - a chaotic mess, right? On the other hand, since a consciously dominant Si implies a fully unconscious - almost inaccessible - Ne, ISxPs can be seen as the most static types, being satisfied with their own perception and impressions of things, without having any desire to express them due to introversion, being lead into a rut and a slow-moving life.

“But since this is the exception, the introvert’s characteristic difficulty in expressing himself also conceals his irrationality. On the contrary, he may be conspicuous for his calmness and passivity, or for his rational self-control.” - Psychological Types.

Marie-Louise (or Emma Jung. I’m not sure who gave the description) described ISxPs as “looking stupid, staring with no reaction and looking like a piece of wood because the impression is being absorbed, falling deeper into the psyche”. I think it fits the passivity of Philemon awfully pretty well.

On the other hand, Nyarlathotep is, as I stated before, the most active between the two. He’s the one who chose the masked circle, Sudou, Jun, the New World Order, Tatsuya and so much more. Yet, he can’t be a rational type because, while having a very clear goal mind, he actually plays with everyone - for him, this is a challenge, a game. Even in EP, when Maya and co. stopped the New World Order, Nyarlathotep didn’t get angry. He laughed at them, and decided to take the matter in his hands in an “amusing” (read: cruel) way… and even there, he gave them “help”, connecting his realm to several stores. And that’s not speaking about his role as the Time Count.

All in all, Nyarla is open to whatever happens and modifies his plans accordingly, without hard feelings (until you defeat him), which fits (N)P better than J. Besides, there’s a interesting detail about him I think fits conscious Ne better than Extraverted Sensation (Se), the perceiving function of the physical world as it’s: while every deity hailing from the Sea can (likely) change their shape, Nyarlathotep abuses that ability to extremes. I think such disposition could be explained by the fact that his extraverted consciousness doesn’t have sensation - a static element - but an intuitive and mutable one, and such he should see (extraverted) sensation as completely irrelevant. In fact, the rumors approach could be considered an extension of this, filling the physical world (Se) with all kinds of crazy happenings and possibilities (Ne).

However, there’s a little bit of a problem here regarding Philemon as ISxP…

“As Jung once noted, for them the future does not exist, future possibilities do not exist, they are in the here and the now, and there is an iron curtain before them. They behave in life as though it will always be the same as it is now; they are incapable of conceiving that things might change.” - Lectures on Jung’s Typology

I don’t have to say that description doesn’t fit that well with Philemon’s belief in human potential. However, I don’t think that’s necessarily a deal breaker.

“Classification does not explain the individual psyche. Nevertheless, an understanding of psychological types opens the way to a better understanding of human psychology in general.” - Jung

Every individual is an exception to the law. And characters are characters. They can be written in every conceivable way, even without consistency. So I think having one or two contradictions but many correlations is good enough.

Besides, Philemon as an SP has its merits too since both P2s are commonly considered to be a “bet” between the him and Nyarla, which fits well with the overall demeanor of SP (artisans) according to Keirsey - optimistic, easy-going, trying to enjoy things, and so forth. However, there’s no mention of any bet in the games per se, but there’s an implication of a “competence” or “battle” between Nyarla and Phil due to their opposite natures, which I think still fits.

Nonetheless, with half of the job done, let’s go to the other functions: the rational ones.

About Morality

Okay, now we can see to which judging dimension they belong… and who am I kidding? Philemon is F and Nyarla is T. I had doubts regarding the perceiving axis (though I think IS and EN are the best fits), but I didn't have such things when it came to seeing the judging one.

As I stated at the beginning, every type has four functions: two conscious, two unconscious. Each of these pairs is composed of a rational function and an irrational one, one of them being dominant and the other being auxiliary - something that helps concretize the “vision” of the dominant. Because that conscious auxiliary function is, well, mostly conscious, some of the common elements associated with it flow into the “characterization” of the type. For example, ISxJs (auxiliary Si) may have problems at the moment of changing or having new ideas, but not at the same level that ISxPs, and the same with ENxJs, which are wasteful as well as “animated”, but in more controlled (classic J vs P) ways than ENxPs.

So, in a nutshell, we need to find the second, most close function to Phil and Nyarla… and Nyarla fits the NT temperament terrifyingly well. The “rational” are seen as cold, skeptical, analytical, complex, strategic, strong-willed, pragmatic, ingenious, and focused on systems and their betterment - all of them fit to a T (pun not intended) with Nyarla. In fact, all of his plans - including P1 and the rumor of the holy lance - seem to have some sort of “systemic complexity”, piling up constantly between each other and creating a “wicked web” as Philemon described it.

“Because their hunger for achievement presses them constantly, Rationals live through their work. For them, work is work and play is work. Condemning an NT to idleness would be the worst sort of punishment. However, Rationals work not so much for the pleasure of action (like the Artisans), nor for the security a job provides (like the Guardians), nor for the joy of helping others (like the Idealists). Rationals work with a single-minded desire to achieve their objectives; indeed, once involved in a project, they tend to be reluctant, if not unable, to limit their commitment of time and energy.” - Please Understand Me II

While I think that it may be a bit too “serious” for Nyarlathotep, it fits well with everything I said before. There’s also how Nyarlathotep called himself the “ultimate obstacle”, both as the Great Father and as the Shadow of all humanity, which fits with the relationship of the rational temperament to the concept of challenge, just as he also seems to want to be challenged.

“Heh heh… I’ll cut the entertainment off here. Now, hurry and return to the waking world. Oppose me not as my avatar but as me in the flesh as soon as possible." - Nyarlathotep, Tatsuya's Scenario.

Now, from a functional perspective, it also makes sense. If he’s an NT, that will make him an ENTP, an Ne - Te - Fi - Si. That’s to say, he has Extraverted Thinking (Te) as his auxiliary function, and this is kinda important, since conscious Te implies unconscious Introverted Feeling (Fi):

Fi is a feeling, rational function, and such it judges according to what’s agreeable and moral. But that morality/agreeableness is not dependent on what the outside and external world says or behaves, unlike Extraverted Feeling (Fe) and its judgment according to society and the “moment”, but entirely personal. It doesn’t seek any (physical/material) benefit, but an encompassing sensation of goodness independent of everything else. However, it’s a deeply personal and reserved judgment (introversion in general), unlike the openness, popularity and shared agreement of Fe.

Te, thereby, is a judging function entirely focused on the external world, on an objective analysis of the situation and the logical conclusions that follow. It doesn’t give any moral judgment, but a practical one, determining and delimiting what exists in the external world - it tells you what the physical presences and objects are. But as I said, it also gives a person a conclusion created through the synthesis of what’s registered on the outside, something that must be done.

In other words, Te is the objective, scientific judgment that differentiates everything on the outside - laws, rules theories, (external) logic - and Fi is the personal, moral judgment that’s independent of the outside. And such, if one is conscious, the other is going to be repressed into the unconscious, seen as “separated” from oneself and possibly from the world itself, and that’s the important thing: the repression and separation.

Obviously, I doubt Nyarlathotep really represses anything, Persona 4 style. However, nobody can deny that he doesn’t believe in humanity and the potential they hold. He’s all about denying it, “showing” and pointing out the logical contradictions of humans (especially those visible and acted upon ones, which points to both thinking and extraversion), something that definitely coincides with conscious Te and unconscious Fi.

“Because of the highly impersonal character of the conscious attitude, the unconscious feelings are extremely personal and oversensitive, giving rise to secret prejudices—a readiness, for instance, to misconstrue any opposition to his formula as personal ill-will, or a constant tendency to make negative assumptions about other people in order to invalidate their arguments in advance—in defense, naturally, of his own touchiness. His unconscious sensitivity makes him sharp in tone, acrimonious, aggressive. Insinuations multiply. His feelings have a sultry and resentful character—always a mark of the inferior function. Magnanimous as he may be in sacrificing himself to his intellectual goal, his feelings are petty, mistrustful, crotchety, and conservative.” - Psychological Types

Again, maybe a bit too extreme to fully fit Nyarla, but that’s because it’s speaking about a consciously dominant Te - ExTJ - instead of auxiliary Te - ExTP. Due to the somewhat more “unconscious” Te and more “conscious” Fi, an ExTP may be more forgiving about people because they can understand more clearly their intentions and morality, their inherent “goodness”, along with how those relate with their actions… Though in Nyarlathotep’s case, he uses that more nuanced vision to mess with and break people, sometimes outright cheating.

And besides, as a general rule, F-types are (seen as) nicer or more “human” than T-types, and I don’t think I’ve to really explain why Nyarla is not… even nice at all. Elegant and charismatic? Yes. Just trying to be nice? Hell no.

So, with all of this, then Philemon must be the contrary: He’s the more “human” between the two, the kinder, understanding one, and such he’s F. Specifically, an ISFP, an Si - Fi - Te - Ne.

As I previously said, having Te and Fi as auxiliaries - one conscious and unconscious - allows an individual to have a better understanding and more nuanced view over the intentions of others and their actions. However, someone who has conscious Fi, just by having Feeling, has more appreciation for the intentions of people and will be more forgiving than someone who has conscious Te (though in a practical level, personal experiences play an important role too), explaining one of the fundamental differences between them: Nyarlathotep focuses more in the contradiction between the morality of a person and its actions, devaluing them in that basis (T over F), while Philemon, likely admitting the cruelty of humanity, puts more emphasis on the intentions than on the actions (F over T), seeing them as reflection of human’s capacity to become “perfect” and “whole” - a concept that may be related to Si as well.

“We could say that introverted sensation transmits an image which does not so much reproduce the object as spread over it the platina of age-old subjective experience and the shimmer of events still unborn. The bare sense impression develops in depth, reaching into the past and future, while extraverted sensation seizes on the momentary existence of things open to the light of day.” - Psychological Types

It doesn’t perceive only the momentary sensation and presence of the object like Se, but the reflection of the collective images - the primordial contents of the unconscious - within those sensations, even if they don’t fully understand it (nor necessarily care about such things). Thereby, in that sensation the potentialities of the unconscious are imprinted, and its manifestations are perceived and felt in a deeply personal and intimate way.

Within this in mind, it’s no wonder why Philemon believes in humanity: their capacity to do good is interpreted by him as a potential to become whole, incarnations and symbols of the collective memory of life - auxiliary Fi, the sense of “subjective” morality, supporting and reflecting dominant Si, the “subjective” (but quite timeless) perception of sensations and objects. One could also extrapolate this to Nyarlathotep, where this axis is unconscious and thus interpreted as “distant”, maybe even “impossible”; on the other hand, his Ne and Te axis could be represented on his capacity to see all the possibilities in which an individual (or humanity in general) can fall, and then acting upon those (and sometimes just abandoning them altogether).

And as extra, Fi is described as follows in “Psychological Types”:

“Its aim is not to adjust itself to the object, but to subordinate it in an unconscious effort to realize the underlying images. It is continually seeking an image which has no existence in reality, but which it has seen in a kind of vision.”

Naturally, we don’t know very much about Philemon’s history nor particular motivations (if he even needs them due to his nature as a personified aspect of the Sea), but I like to think that particular description of Fi is in some way related to his search for human wholeness - something that can we can say is actually hard, since only two people (that in actually may be just the “same being”) have reached it. However, I don’t think Philemon is an IxFJ, since he isn’t “unrelated”, cold or “banal” enough to qualify for me, nor it fits what I previously said about his relation to the Sea.

Conclusions

There’s not much for me to say here. I just thought it was interesting seeing a couple of contrastive types on a series that has already made references to that concept, besides my own attempt at trying to formulate my thoughts and understanding of the matter. I don’t think myself expert on the topic, so I think there may be some mistakes here and there - especially regarding the interpretation of Philemon’s goal. But overall, I’m satisfied with the result.

As some notes regarding other typings within the series:

Nyarlathotep shares types with characters like Elizabeth and professor Edogawa. Obviously, those two are more common representations of the type.

Philemon shares types with characters like Fuuka, Theodore, and maybe even Yosuke (though an argument could be made for him being an ENFP).

Igor could be an ISFJ, so that would make him a good foil for Philemon's unconditioned belief in humanity, being more cautious and skeptical - more J than P. This is better seen in “Tsumi to Batsu”, where he doubted giving humanity the Black and Red Books is a good idea, but ultimately relented.

On the same line, Yaldabaoth would be some sort of ExTJ, likely ENTJ due to the Si-nature of the Sea, making him a foil towards Nyarla. Where Yaldabaoth prepares himself in all ways to fulfill his goal (Te over Ne), Nyarla sees all possibilities and plays with them (Ne over Te).

And as a final comment: Outside of all the controversies and discussions about the validity of Jung’s theory, characters aren’t people. They are characters. They are constructed, played with, and written in diverse and sometimes contradictory ways. That’s to say, they don’t nor will ever have a type. At most, they can approach or represent them, but they won’t ever have the same depth and dynamicity as a human being. Their attitudes and actions can be interpreted in many ways (and that may be the point sometimes), so they can always be assigned different (but close) types.

[windudemon]

are lsi's most exact type?

if you think about it, all or almost all te established methods/recipes were once ti theories. or basically, when ti theories are proven, they become te standards. te obvious truths. te practical and pragmatic business logic.

lsi is a ti dom. so they will generate a lot of ti theories and fail. ti fails all the time, but only through failing you can come up with more practical or efficient systems. basically, lsi will experiment, sli won't. sli doesn't take risks, lsi do.

let's see, sli has: si,te,fi,ne... the fk sli gonna do with that weak ass inferior ne? nothing. ne and se are the real experimental functions when it comes to perceiving. lsi with the creative se therefore superior to sli's ne on every possible way.

lsi with se creative will move and shake things. just because they run their experiments calculatedly (se tangibles) doesn't make them ocd or scheduling. they are definitely closer to probing.

*probing / scheduling is keirsey's p/j dichotomy

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Lloyd Austin to White Hats: Surrender or Else

Officers in the White Hat community have been receiving letters authored by the criminal regime’s Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, which hold an ominous ultimatum: relinquish command in exchange for possible amnesty, or prepare to face the music, according to documents reviewed by Real Raw News and sources familiar with the issue.

At least 65 officers across all branches of the armed forces have received letters accusing them of “treason,” and demanding they “voluntarily terminate command and surrender to proper authority.” The proper authority is Lloyd Austin.

A source in Gen. David H. Berger’s office said that Austin sent Gen. Berger a personalized note with instructions to publicly condemn President Donald J. Trump, to overtly recognize Joseph R. Biden as the lawfully elected president of the United States, to order his forces to at once “cease and desist all unconstitutional paramilitary action against elected and appointed officials,” and to surrender no later than December 22, 2022.

Members of General Berger’s council, including Major Gen. Richard E. Angle and Col. J.D. Keirsey, got similar correspondence, with a twist. The letters demanded they renounce Gen. Berger and hinted at possible exoneration if they stated in writing that Gen. Berger had coerced, wheedled, or tricked them into acting in contravention of the U.S. Constitution. The letters also required they write a statement of contrition, admitting that their “lawless and unconstitutional malfeasance” had grievously fractured the country and was inimical to the tenets of the Constitution.

Third tier officers—primarily warrant officers, lieutenants, and captains—were told to author a formal apology saying imprudent behavior and poor judgment had led them astray. “We understand General Berger and his ‘council’ may have inveigled your cooperation in his scheme to destabilize the United States. His transgressions against the United States and President Joseph R. Biden are unforgivable, however, we also understand extenuating circumstances may have caused unblemished officers to follow his lead…While we cannot guarantee your continued service in the United States military, and you will likely receive a dishonorable discharge, you will not face a court martial if you stipulate to the terms of this official document,” part of a letter read.

General Berger, our source said, was quick to quote Admiral Akbar: “It’s a trap!”

“Gen. Berger shredded his letter and encouraged his men to do likewise. He thinks it’s a snare. As far as he knows, everyone who got Austin’s letter tore it up. Their desperate to put us out of business, willing to do anything, and I’m surprised they haven’t threatened our families,” our source said.

As an aside, RRN on November 9 reported that three White Hat officers surrendered to the Deep State because they were disappointed with the midterm election results. Those officers, sources said, have literally vanished from the face of the planet.

“They’re probably dead,” our source said. “Their apologies to Lloyd Austin didn’t make a difference and emboldened him to start his letter writing campaign, I’d guess.”

“If they come for us, we’re more than ready,” he said in closing.

Update:

Vice Admiral Darse E. Crandall of the United States Navy Judge Advocate General’s Corps, too, received a threatening letter written by Austin. The letter ordered Adm. Crandall to immediately free GITMO detainees, cease all unlawful prosecutions, and turn himself in.

In response, Adm. Crandall wrote back, “I have a better idea. You turn yourself in, Lloyd. We have a seat reserved for you.”

Source - 👇

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CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGE 1: BATTERY OF TESTS

Enneagram: Type 8 - The Challenger

People of this personality type are essentially unwilling to be controlled, either by others or by their circumstances; they fully intend to be masters of their fate. Eights are strong willed, decisive, practical, tough minded and energetic. They also tend to be domineering; their unwillingness to be controlled by others frequently manifests in the need to control others instead. When healthy, this tendency is kept under check, but the tendency is always there, nevertheless, and can assume a central role in the Eight's interpersonal relationships.

Personality DNA: Reserved Artist

Dungeons & Dragons Alignment: Chaotic Good

A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him. He makes his own way, but he's kind and benevolent. He believes in goodness and right but has little use for laws and regulations. He hates it when people try to intimidate others and tell them what to do. He follows his own moral compass, which, although good, may not agree with that of society.

Keirsey: Rational

In working with problems, Rationals try to find solutions that have application in the real world, but they are even more interested in the abstract concepts involved, the fundamental principles or natural laws that underlie the particular case. And they are completely pragmatic about their ways and means of achieving their ends. Rationals don't care about being politically correct. They are interested in the most efficient solutions possible, and will listen to anyone who has something useful to teach them, while disregarding any authority or customary procedure that wastes time and resources.

16 Personalities: The Mediator - ISTP

A Virtuoso (ISTP) is someone with the Introverted, Observant, Thinking, and Prospecting personality traits. They tend to have an individualistic mindset, pursuing goals without needing much external connection. They engage in life with inquisitiveness and personal skill, varying their approach as needed.

Sorting Hat Chats: We think you’re a Gryffindor Primary and a Ravenclaw Secondary.

Lion primaries trust their moral intuitions and have a need and a drive to live by them. They feel what’s right in their gut, and that matters and guides them. If they don’t listen to and act on that, it feels immoral.

Bird secondaries are collectors. Dedicated to knowledge, to facts, systems, tools, or skills, the things they have already learned are what they call on when things get tough. They can collect useful skills, build complex clever systems, invent vitally useful things, or just learn everything there is to know about the large cats of South America.

Four Temperaments: Melancholic

Your temperament is melancholic. The melancholic temperament is fundamentally introverted and thoughtful. Melancholic people often were perceived as very (or overly) pondering and considerate, getting rather worried when they could not be on time for events. Melancholics can be highly creative in activities such as poetry and art - and can become preoccupied with the tragedy and cruelty in the world. Often they are perfectionists. They are self-reliant and independent; one negative part of being a melancholic is that they can get so involved in what they are doing they forget to think of others.

Big Five

Statistical “Which Character” Personality Quiz

Sebastian Wilder (La La Land): 84% Maeve Wiley (Sex Education): 84% Ola Nyman (Sex Education): 84% Janis Ian (Mean Girls): 83% Jo March (Little Women): 83% Kinsey Locke (Locke & Key): 83% Marianne (Portrait of a Lady on Fire): 82% Omar Little (The Wire): 81% Jughead Jones (Riverdale): 81% Kat Stratford (10 Things I Hate About You): 81%

DISC: D Style

The D Personality Style tends to be direct and decisive, sometimes described as dominant. They would prefer to lead than follow and tend towards leadership and management positions. They tend to have high self-confidence and are risk-takers and problem-solvers, enabling others to look to them for decisions and direction. They tend to be self-starters.

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Top 10 MiLB triple leaders: week 25

10: Anthony Prato, St. Paul (6) 9: Sean Bouchard, Albuquerque (6) 8: DaShawn Keirsey; Jr., St. Paul (7) 7: Ryan Ward, Oklahoma City (7) 6: Isaac Collins, Nashville (7) 5: Sergio Alcántara, Reno (7) 4: Drew Avans, Oklahoma City (8) 3: Nate Mondou, El Paso (8) 2: Anthony Dungan, El Paso (8) 1: Bryce Teodosio, Salt Lake (12)

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Reds Thump Twins 11-1.

Reds 11 Twins 1 W-Martinez (9-6) L-Woods Richardson (5-5)

The Minnesota Twins cannot get out of a late season slump. The offense has been sportatic at times and it just got worse tonight at home. The Twins started the scoring in the first as Matt Wallner was hit by a pitch and Royce lewis doubled. Byron Buxton beat out an infield single to plate a run and give the Twins an early lead. Simeon Woods Richardson ran into some trouble in the fourth when Spencer Steer walked and TJ Friedl and Ty France singled. Louie Varland came on and it got much worse. Jake Fraley singled home a run, Noelvi Marte knocked in a pair with a ground-rule double, and Jonathan India drove in two more with a single to right. Elly De La Cruz kept the inning going with a walk and Spencer Steer doubled in two more. TJ Friedl knocked a Louie Varland cutter out to right for a two-run homer to cap off a nine-run fourth inning. Jake Fraley added a solo homer in the fifth and the rout was on in Minneapolis. Nick Martinez finished off six solid innings and the Reds added a run in the eighth. Brent Suter threw three shutout innings and the Reds took the series from the Twins this weekend.

-Final Thoughts- Simeon Woods Richards got out of trouble in the third then exited the game with the bases loaded in the fourth. He allowed three runs on five hits over three innings with three strikeouts. Louie Varland gave up six runs in the fourth, Scott Blewett gave up a run in three innings, and Caleb Thielbar allowed one in the eighth. Kyle Farmer threw a 1-2-3 ninth. The Twins scattered five hits tonight and hit 2-for-6 with runners in scoring position. They left five men on base. Carlos Correa was activated off the injured list and DaShawn Keirsey Jr. was sent back to St. Paul. Tomorrow, Rhett Lowder faces David Festa in the series finale.

-Chris Kreibich-