#larry presscoverage

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The Larry narrative surrounding Louis has never been that he hates H never once. It was always around larries and the strain they put on the relationship and the bullying of Eleanor and calling Freddie fake lol. Never once has been made out like Louis hates Harry.

Hi, anon!

Huh? What are you talking about?

Read up, anon. Here's a Dan Wo*tton special...

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So since the newest So be it denial got literally to every big pop culture servers and even to european tabloids - there’s no way this wasn’t consulted and agreed with H’s team (I doubt his previous Chickengate denial got this far since there was no mention of H’s name). But I’m still questioning why this all happend literally out of nowhere? Why, oh, whyyy? There’s hardly any mention about L’s music or his festival tour so it’s pure gossip. And because this affect H’s image as well so Louis had to have his agreement and they had to consultate it. The only “time will tell” I would love to happen would be if H will drop something extra gay and larrycoded so Louis covered him in advance. But I’m also skeptical that we will get something like Adore You 2.0 🫤

Hi, anon!

Parmageddon was pretty widespread too. I saw someone say it wasn't covered in Norwegian tabloids, but it was. But parmageddon didn’t give us the larry lovebite on ITV, manips on PageSix or the Euphoria larry scene almost shown in full on american TV. This is different. Larry has been trending for four days now on twitter and this got widespread attention. There is no mention of his tour or music, it's all about larry. Many of the articles contains manips or cute larry pics that negates the denial in the text. So it's suspicious.

I'm kind of just biding my time and waiting for the interview dropping tomorrow, which promises no holds barred. I hope that interview will tell us something about where all this is going. If it's not, then my eyes will be on Harry.

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Did you see that E news has posted the Louis story on their insta which has 23.7 million followers? I'm starting to agree with the theory that the entire q&a was done for this purpose. He's getting so much press off doing nothing.

Yup, i did. Link here. Larry will always be a hot topic. Two hot famous guys being together for years? A conspiracy to hide and deny it? Huge portion of fandom believing in it? Louis doing another denial? It's jucy gossip and got all the goods. Romance, hot guys, secrecy, fame, stardom and money. People eat that shit up. They'll google him and get invested. Down the rabbit hole they go. Using larry for promo is smart. I just wish he didn’t throw us larries under the bus while doing it...

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The way the media has talked about this, do you think we’ll see more sightings of them?

Hi, anon!

I have no idea! It could go either way. I really hope so though. More of them being in the same place with seperate photos of them placing them both there, with media coverage mentioning them both in the same sentence? Yes, please!

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I don't get it because if Louis did the denial to sell tickets then why did no article mention his music, tour, festival, career? There were articles everywhere all over the world and only mention of his Larry denial and F. Was he hoping that the denial would stay in people's minds and when he release his tickets later they'll remember him as the guy who did the Larry denial and buy a ticket? That sounds really far fetched to me but Louis has such a weird career. It can't be because the media doesn't talk about his career because they do. His last Larry denial they talked about his tour. When he was papped in Australia they talked about his tour. So why no mention of his tour this time?

Hi, anon!

Louis career is pretty puzzling. It's hard to figure out what they're attempting to do half of the time. I'm not sure his teams knows either. If they do know, they're probably not getting the effect they seek out of it. The denial didn’t silence larries, it just drew attention to larry and made people, who were not thinking or talking about larry, talk and think about larry. Was that the point or not?

I think if they wanted to have the media write about his tour and his festival they would need some leverage or provide something the media wants. They aren’t doing that, because the only thing the media would be currently somewhat interested in writing about in regards to Louis is larry. There is no guarantee that the media will mention his tour or festival. His team can only hope they do or hope that the attention will lead people to find out about it anyways. It might be a bit too transparant if the article said "Oh, larries irritate me. They're hurting my kid" (Louis Tomlinson is currently about to embark on his final leg of the Faith in the Future tour in Latin America. He's also hosting a festival in Mexico in June. Tickets can be bought here". People who don't like Louis is already accusing him of using Harry for promo, so being too transparent about it could hurt him more than he'd gain from it.

I found it curious that they didn’t talk about tour too, since they did at the last denial. So maybe the purpose was different this time. Idk.

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Happy Friday Marte!

So I read the newest article and lol it´s basically a copypasta from him LatAm interviews? There´s mention of his latest denial (last minute edit I´m sure), Louis again pretending to be father of the year (but not in his own words this time) and except saying he´s content and in a good place right now, it brings absolutely nothing new.

So I still don´t know what was the purpose of the denial but also glad this article hopefully won´t deep the damage. fAiTh iN tHe FuTuRe!

Happy friday, anon!

I agree with the ones saying this article reads like it was written by ChatGPT lol. It's so bad. Nothing new as you say. Just a summary of old talking points and interviews. Disappointed. So i guess there is nothing new. Same old, same old. Nothing's changed. FaiTH iN ThE FuTURe! is just empty words.

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Hi hope you're doing well!

About louis recent larry mention or him answering the question, I gotta say even though he was calm and mostly respectful so It didn't bother me as much especially compared to previous times but it still opens the doors for hate on larry and the discussion of larry in general cause we're mostly minding our business in a corner on tumbler or where ever and not even trying to prove or spread said rumors yet he brings light to it almost like oh I can't make head lines without mentions of 1d or Harry and we're the punchline and I don't even understand why is it so bad that people think you're dating Harry I mean the man's a catch 😌 like some other blogs were saying there are worse rumors

Hi, anon!

I'm well, i hope you're doing well too!

Haha yeah, Harry is a catch. Being connected to international superstar and the handsome heartthrob Harry Styles should be a compliment! We larries are larries, and we're are always going to be larries. It's old news! It's Louis who's bringing this topic up again, without any particular event prompting it. So why is he doing it? It's totally the Streisand effect, and a "the lady doth protest too much" situation. This "denial" is everywhere and the story is clearly syndicated. They want it out there for some reason. The same thing happened during parmageddon just six months ago. I have my theories as to why it's happening though. I'm just not sure if they got the effect they wanted out of it, or if they're making a big mistake...

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This fandom drives me crazy. I want to scream to the high heavens that Harry and Louis haven't endured 10+ years of closeting, abuse, trauma, gaslighting, stunting and beards because they are trying to protect a gay relationship. Louis isn't willingly sabotaging his own career, attacking 90% of his fanbase and making himself a laughing stock because hey, that's much better than people thinking he's gay. Harry isn't happy to be labelled a womanizer, homewrecker or queerbaiter and having his community turn against him, and Louis isn't happy to string an innocent kid along and to be labelled an absent father and a homophobe... all in the name of having a private relationship!!! They haven't been driven to alcohol and smoking and drugs because a private relationship is more important to them than their own health and freedom. Not to mention that they don't have to do any of those things to have a private relationship in the first place. Just CO and don't talk about it? Simple. What are these fans smoking??? Actually I can't blame them too much because there has been so much gaslighting. But I want to ask them.... what would it look like for Harry and Louis if they did want to CO and scream about their relationship but there is something forbidding them from doing so like a contract or image clause? It wouldn't look any different from now right? They'd still be stunting and gaslighting and denying. So why do fans jump to the privacy argument when there is no proof of that. I understand the safety argument a bit more, like lgbtq+ crimes do happen and conservatives target lgbtq+ people. Could that be a big factor? I'm sure there are safety measures they can take. But the argument against staying closeted for that reason is that their unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with their closet like drinking, smoking and drugs can be equally damaging. Unhealthy habits and stress will impact their physical and mental health and that shouldn't be ignored. The argument that they're protecting their career doesn't make sense either when people are CO and it's doing no damage to their career. Facts dispel those arguments. So there is more at play like contracts, or they're biding their time, or maybe S*ny is holding something over them. But they're not doing all this for a private life. That's silly.

Under the cut are my answers to several asks about the aftermath of Louis larry denial in Latam.

Hi, anons!

I think what you're really trying to say is that this fandom makes you frustrated...

I agree with you so much. The privacy argument is a weak argument for several reasons which i've covered before. They're not closeted because they want privacy. They're private because they have to be because they closeted. The closet is clearly making them miserable and unhappy. So there must be other forces at play stopping them from coming out. If they could they would come out.

The more I think about Louis bashing on us the more I actually don’t get why he is doing it. It seems that he tries to get some headlines as you say and his previous chickengate was just after the latam dates were announced and now it’s during the latam promo. But from the selling point of view it doesn’t bring him any benefits, even the opposite, the listening or engagement numbers don’t lie and they are declining significantly every time he is talking about f or attacking us. Is his team that unprofessional and can’t create a positive promo for him that they are using some outdated tactics? They seem so lazy and at the same time desperate to sell enough tickets so they don’t have to cancel it.

Do you think he knew that this interview will be released as one of the last ones and F was sort of blacklisted topic at the previous ones? Or is it just a coincidence?

I think it's three things. It's to confirm his image as a straight lad to appeal to men, it's to deny larry to silence the speculation around H (L does the dirty job for the both of them), and it's to get attention, his name out there to sell tickets to his tour. Is it as smart thing to do for his own career? Temporarily maybe, but not in the long run.

y’all can’t decide if these denials give him attention or if they damage his career by driving away larries like what is the narrative here

It's not a coincidence at all. It's also not a coincidence it was among the last ones released. If he'd done it early we'd be pissed an no one would have greeted him at the airports lol.

I love both louis and harry and while I have never really identified myself as a larrie (the term), it's not unlikely to me that they dated. but people need to realize, louis does not give a single fuck about how harry feels when it comes to that situation and that makes me doubt A LOT. like why do you all want harry to date someone who goes out of his way every single time to deny that they're dating, to call it bullshit, to say something along the lines of "yeah freddie is so important to me but harry clearly isn't". I know he didn't exactly say it but it comes across as that. he's not only talking about it when he's being asked about it, he goes on twitter to scream at people because they asked him about chicken. do you think he does that while lying next to harry before shutting off his phone and kissing him goodnight? I don't know the truth and I know that closeting does a lot to people but this is not just him saying its not true, it's so much more and I just don't see any of that being real. At least not at the moment. Louis would be a proper arse if they were actually dating and I know he speaks highly of the people that he loves. but maybe that's just me

But why can't it be both at the same time? These denials do give him attention which he needs, but it drives away tried larries while also making new ones. The new ones aren’t long term loyal fans, they're casual fans who will buy tickets to his show, but they won't stream his music a year from now. So they're probably temporary fans only. Loyal fans are more valuable and he's driving them away. He's doing actions whith a short term effect, while the foundation is crumbling.

I don't think you understand that Louis (or Sony with control over his twitter account) is doing this for the both of them. Harry's image can't afford to do denials or their relationship. He's come off as homophobic and intolerant of fandom culture. Louis has had this role from 2012 when he first started denying larry and yelling at fans. So it's better for both their images that Louis takes on this role. That's also why he was given bg and not H. Louis got 90% larry fans so he can handle it and still have a career. Harry can't.

I'm pretty sure a tweet from Pop Base was not what his team had in mind when they used a question about Larry for promo. All the UK and US tabloids have ignored what he said so he threw Harry under the bus for nothing.

See the answer above this. He isn't throwing H under the bus. He's doing it for the both of them. I think they banked on this getting presscoverage. Louis needs it to sell tickets, and H needs his fans to know he's not with Louis.

When he was in Australia he had 3m Spotify monthly listeners. Fast forward to today and he has 2.902m so he has lost 100k since then and 40k since March 30th when he was on 2.943m. So something he is doing isn't appealing to music fans.

No, his image is shit. But it's been awhile since we've gotten new music from him and it's normal for monthly listeners to decline when you're not putting music out regularly. His numbers shouldn't decline this much though...

Most big artists are trying to appeal to the lgbtq+ community and they could only dream of a large queer fanbase like Louis has. But here Louis is trying to appeal to straight men lmfao but the straight men aren't interested. He's doing all he can to win them over and it's not working, even did an interview on a popular platform for straight men and he didn't appear to gain any fans from it. You can't make it up lmao. I think he is stuck with this fanbase so he should try embracing it. Insulting Larries when they make up 90% of his fanbase. He needs to be careful. It's the bulk of those fans who sell out his shows and buy his music.

True. But he's stuck with an image as a straight homophobe and they probably already have most larries onboard as a fan. He needs new fans, and he can't change his image to appeal to larries to get new fans onboard because that would mean looking gay. Bg is still a thing and so is his relationship with H. L looking gay affects H's sexuality and relationship speculation. Sony can't have that so...

How long will we suffer this mockery? How much time must pass before we understand that Larry was real, but now it's just marketing?.that even Larry denials are functional, because they make people talk? what do they use us now? the bad thing is that only I feel this way

Well, i've suffered it for almost 12 years now. Larry is still real, and it's not used positively for marketing (i wish). It is used for attention and headlines though, by Louis only. There is nothing wrong with using larry as a marketing tool. I just object to them doing it while shitting on larries. I'd love to be larriebaited.

marte, I honestly really pity antis and larries. Like we're both being gaslit extremely hard. Like, this insane....especially if you think about it this way: louis and harry want to get rid of larries, but when they CO they DO want their support....? After calling them conspiracy theorist for so long?.....

I think you mean to say it's unreal or preposterous?

Neither Louis nor Harry wants to get rid of larries. Not even Sony wants that. They just want the gp to think they're straight. Both H and L knows and appreciate larries sticking around despite treating us like shit over the years. They're closeted and under contracts so they don't have a choice. That's their saving grace and what's going to make fans forgive them when they come out.

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Hi Marte, have you seen the buzzfeed parmageddon article? It actually felt very respectful it went over all the points of the theory and why we feel that way. Yesterday can’t have been all bad if there are big publications explaining Larry theories in 2023 🙂

Hi, anon!

I have seen it, i only skimmed it. I'm always in two minds about articles like this. On the one hand, yes it gets people aware of larry and we get a handful of new larries. People also start to question H or L's sexuality. So it's seeding in a way.

On the other hand, it makes us larries seem like lunatics and conspiracy theorists. These articles are often full of inaccuracies about larries and our beliefs. For example we don’t believe they were together, we believe they are together. We also don't believe they had chicken parm on their first date. Wrong dish and it wasn't on their first date...idk it's annoying lol. The more larry is talked about in the press the more scrutiny and harrassment us larries will get too. So idk, is it worth it?

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i can’t deal with the fact that google news has an entire category called “Louis Tomlinson responds to fan's chicken theory”

It's even in norwegian tabloids now. Great! So ridiculous. Definitly planned.

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The UK magazine Talk Talk News is replying to people in their comments pointing out that the article was written the day before the tweet came out. They said “It’s not a conspiracy. In this case, our article was prepared ahead of time, and its publication coincided with the tweet. We don’t have advance knowledge of specific tweets or events.” and “Well, the article was actually written in advance, and the content was based on information and research done by our team member available up to that point.”

What do you think is going on there? How can the article have been prepared the day before if they didn’t have advance knowledge?

It's debunked.

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I do work in the UK media and yes, everyone has heard the Larry rumours but it's treated as an enormous joke. Nobody thinks it's real. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Pinch of salt and all that since i can't verify your claims. I also didn't say that people believed it, just that they've heard about it. Larry sounds far fetched if you don’t look into it. We know there's superinjunctions on pics of them together so some people must know.

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"A fan with Louis in London recently" is the same as H being in London recently (at least last week) like I would love to see July´s timeline as now I´m sure they were together at home because H had his suprise performance. Another thing which I would like to mention is that we still have no idea who took that photo of Louis and Ed and H, like it´s definitely not sus at all lol. And Ed´s smirk in the photo because he knows too much. Recently there is so much going around Louis which gives him a great PR and it´s just him being himself - catch up with Prince William, his energy for festivals, him being a hero of Glasto because boy just wanted to watch his footie, him with H at Euros final match and now him with girl fan who kissed him on cheek and he looks adorable, no fake laddy lad but sweet boy who´s used to being kissed by his sisters way too much imo. Please please please LTHQ take notes and don´t ruin it!!!!

Hi, anon!

It think they've spent some quality time together the last couple of weeks. And no, we still don't know who took the larry pic, the mirror sourced it to "instagram" lol.

I hope Louis good PR continues too. I hope it's a start to rehab his image. But i don't have my hopes up yet. It can still turn to shit. We'll have to see.

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Louis is not willing to give tabloids what they want aka exclusives about his romantic and family life ///

He's given them much more than Harry has, lots of details about his 'life' with El and he even talked (in 2020) about how he wanted to marry her and have 'more kids' with her. Plus until 2022 he let her post him on her ig, the press just didn't use the photos.

Harry has so many celeb friends in LA and London and surely some of these are Louis' friends too if they socialise as a couple? Look at all the people who went to LOT. Yet there was nobody on those red carpets at the LA/London premieres. Harry's close friend Rob Sheffield at Rolling Stone didn't review FitF either.

Hi anon,

It's not a competion. Harry and Louis are also very different in that respect. They've also got very different fandom demographics. Harry is a much bigger star, who more people know than Louis. Every move he makes is newsworthy and gives the tabloids clicks. People want to read about what he's up to and see pics of who he's dating or what he's wearing. He's feeding the press all the time, with pap walks, exlusives about movie roles, wax figures at MT, pr relationship of the week and so on. Harry's got much more going on that the public takes interest in than Louis does. So i think Harry feeds the press much more than Louis does.

Louis feeds the press too, but Louis isn't wearing interesting, fashionable clothes that the daily mail can describe in detail, he isn't papped with celebrity friends so tabloids can get a two for one (people liking both celebrities will click on the article), he isn't doing anything interesting in the pictures (making gp click on the article to see what he's doing) like riding a motorsycle or getting his car towed. He's also hardly papped with women making the tabloids able to speculate (their favourite).

And about business friends. Most of these people are only friends so they can mooch promo off of each other. It's double the star power in the media. Some of Harry's celebrity friends are only 'friends' as long as Harry gives them promo or attention. That's the case with Rob Sheffield. Louis isn't able to give them the promo they seek, and being seen being friends with Louis could also be seen as a liability for some (because of his relation to the press). Louis has few celebrity friends so it's slim picking.

Their situation is very different. Harry doesn’t need to do much to get attention. Louis on the other hand needs to do much more to get the same level of attention.

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There we go...

But what it does do is give him attention and headlines.//

There's nothing in the UK or US media about this so do you mean headlines in Argentina? He already had that by going to the stadium so it seems like overkill.

Hi, anon!

I was talking about his denials in general. The denials or larry lashouts always gives him attention when he needs it. Notice parmageddon was right before latam tickets went on sale... He's made quite a few denials and larry lashouts over the years. This has already made headlines in Latam where he wants the attention and that was the goal. I believe this particular interview was posted by the biggest brazilian news outlet, g1, and it's already in articles online so...

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I have my theories as to why it's happening though

Can you share some theories? I can only think that they want free promo but I don't think it's worth it.

Can you share what is your theory why this is happening?thanks

Hi, both of you!

Sure! So there is a couple of things i'm absolutely sure of. This was set up and planned. The syndicated articles also tell me it's being pushed. They want this information out there. I'm also sure that this is coordinated with H's team, since he's implicated here and it affects his image too. So why do they want the information out there? Here are some thoughts;

Louis is on a radio promo tour to sell tickets to his tour. A denial could be to gain attention on himself to sell tickets. What speaks against it is that he did it in larryland aka latam where this won't work as planned, and none of the articles mention Louis is on tour or have tickets to sell. The headlines says it irritates him and he sounds like a pissbaby. Fangirls on the internet think he's dating international superstar, Harry Styles makes him irritated and annoyed? Why does he care so much that he has to deny it over and over again? So what kind of promo is this really? His team could be hoping for his tour being mentioned in the articles, but they didn’t get what they wanted.

He did another denial just six months ago, parmageddon. There is nothing that's triggered the need for a new denial every six months. He needed the attention back then to sell tickets and the presscoverage he got from it did mention he was touring. But this time around it's all larry focused...

Doing a denial every six months will draw attention to something he and Harry shouldn't want attention on. He gets to confirm his narrative that he's F's dad, but doing a denial like this just makes more people interested in the conspiracy theories. They also wonder why he's doing denials so frequently. He's creating more people who'll be interested in the rumours. He's saying don't look, and people will look. They won't buy tickets to his tour, but they will go down the rabbit hole.

What image is he going for? He's connecting himself to H in the media by deliberately pushing it, but also trying to disconnect from him by doing the denial? Distancing himself from H is in accordance with his image, he shouldn't want this attention on himself while trying to appeal to straight indie lads.

So are they attempting to quell the rumours and confirm his public narrative, or is he doing this for another reason? Louis is the one burdened with doing denials for the both of them, so is H about to do something really gay? Is he doing a pre-emptive denial and doing it for Harry?

He's done it twice in six months. Larry brings him a lot of attention. Are they changing things and starting to use larry for promo, or are they wanting eyes on larry because they are working towards a coming out (dare i say it, seeding)? The gay newsites are being super sarcastic, page six used manips, the media isn't siding with Louis on this. They either portray him as someone who's fans irritate him, or they're making fun of him. It isn't helping his reputation or image. It also isn't helping him gain new fans (of his portrayed image).

Things like this make long term larries tired. He always throws us under the bus. He is risking losing fans over this. At one point larries are going to reach their limit and stop buying what he's selling (but still be larries of course).

He's said he came to the conclusion that he can't do anything about it a couple of years ago. He said so be it. He's still doing denials, but he kind of sounds like this is the last time he'll address it and try to stop it? I don't believe this for a second for several reasons, so when is the next one? Next time he's got something to sell? Or?

Will this prompt H to finally respond and they'll double down? Going deeper in the closet?

So it could be several things. If it was just promo i'm really questioning if they're know what they're doing...they are taking some big risks here.