#debunked

[psych-is-the-name]

[awesomefringey]

lmao i think you'll like that

https://x.com/mel_littlefreak/status/1823852002188628273?s=46

HAHAHAHA 😂 Thank you, Mari! I love the idea that Louis watches fandom updates while his boy roams around the house.

[squiddreamz]

EDIT: Pretty sure this has been DEBUNKED (check newer post I made) my bad

I don’t know it this has been mentioned, but…

Some of the LCD billbords in splatsville are deteriorating.

This screen shot is from the most recent big run so far (umami ruins)

You can see dead pixels in bottom left corner.(also the BigRun Alert is taking up less space than before, to the point it even gets cut off for the sake of the advertisement)

This next screen shot is from the current splatfest who would make best Deepcut leader)

Same dead pixels plus new ones in the top right corner.(please note that some of the dark looking bars in the bottom right are from the palanquin Shiver is riding on.

Maybe whoever wins this splatfest will have to decide where Splatsvilles priorities and resources will head towards going forward.

Has anyone else noticed any other deterioration around Splatsville?

Edit: for clarification, this is the screen above the Shoal (local multiplayer lobby). That place seems run down. Maybe it’s meant to represent that?

[stylesclarified]

Hi! I really like your blog and your responses.

I Never was a fan of Larry but still curious about it. Most things look very far fetched to me and I don’t understand how people believe in it.

But there are a few things that keep me uncertain and left me wondering:

1) when fetus Harry answered that he and Louis are dating. Like why?

2) Mario interview when they used sex innuendo (who push who)

3) why Harry moved in with Louis?

4) Adore you my and book Louis the fish references

Can you please explain/debunk them? Tell what you think?

Hey, thanks! I'm glad you like it.

I hope you realize that each of these debunks, by definition, has to be quite long. We're talking about a decade and a half of lore. It's quite a bit of work. I'd appreciate it if from now on, you'd send them in separate asks, because I don't really know if I can fit it all in one post.

1- "When fetus Harry answered that he and Louis are dating. Like why?"

First of all, I hate the term "fetus Harry." I hate this whole classifying Harry by "eras" as if he was a Pokemon that evolved. It's dehumanizing.

Harry did not say that he and Louis were dating. That's a typical Larrie lie—taking what actually happened out of context.

Let's actually give it the context it needs.

From late 2010 on, fans "shipped" all the guys together in a bunch of different pairings. Larry was the most popular one, with Niam—Niall and Liam—not far behind. Harry and Louis were actually very close friends for a hot second, and the band in general was very online. They did Twitcams all the time, and followed and replied to fans constantly. One Direction and Justin Bieber spearheaded what's today known as Stan Twitter.

Larry was a joke everyone participated in. For instance the following two screenshots come from the same blog.

The post about Eleanor is from February 24 2012, and the post about Larry from February 27. Same year, same blog—three days apart.

So, how did it go from a joke to a conspiracy theory?

When One Direction first got put together, Louis had a girlfriend called Hannah. For the most part, fans of the band really liked her. Louis met Eleanor in March 2011, seemingly cheated on Hannah with Eleanor, broke up with Hannah in late July 2011, and by mid September 2011 was openly dating Eleanor.

Fans did not take well to this (even though the whole cheating thing wasn't really known). In fact, in late 2011 and early 2012, the main issue Louis defended Eleanor from wasn't conspiracy theorists, but fans of Hannah that wanted her back.

When he tweeted this—note the YOU in all caps...

It was because that day was Hannah's birthday and fans were tweeting up a storm about wanting Louis and Hannah back together. They were also tweeting pictures of them together and allegedly even sent those pictures to Eleanor directly.

Louis felt bad and defensive, so he decided to tweet that.

Parallel to this, since about late 2011, a group of people on Tumblr were taking the whole Larry thing seriously—going from joking about it to trying to prove it was actually real. It was a very small number of weirdos, and it would've probably never taken off had this whole Eleanor/Hannah thing not happened at the same time as Harry was starting to date Caroline Flack, who was 15 years Harry's senior.

Harry had been linked to other women before, but he was seen with Caroline a bit, was asked about it in interviews, and they interacted some on social media, which enraged fans. They mostly claimed it was the age gap (which would've been a fair criticism), but it was clear that for most the problem was jealousy (which is not fair at all).

In the context of Louis dumping the girlfriend the fandom liked and getting with someone they didn't, and Harry dating an older woman they definitely didn't like, impressionable fans started to get swayed more and more by conspiracy theories.

At first, it was a majority of jokes and a small number of people believing the conspiracy theories, but over time, slowly, it started to shift. Between 2010 and 2012, you could be just "A Larry shipper"—someone who liked them together and joked about it. From 2013 on, Larry shippers were basically extincted, replaced instead by "Larries", conspiracy theorists who truly believed they were together and tried to prove it.

When it was mostly jokes, Harry, Louis, and their friends and family, would go along with them. Almost all of "Larry proof" is those early stages, when there wasn't an actual conspiracy theory that was widespread yet and everyone followed along with the jokes.

Harry and Louis were close friends, and their moms also became quite close (they were of a similar age, similar area, background, both divorced, etc). Everyone went along with it. Until it started to get out of hand.

Now, if Louis was defensive about the whole Louhannah thing, I think you can only imagine how defensive he would get about the whole Larry thing when it started to cross over into conspiracy territory...

Fans not only insulted Eleanor, but started to directly harass her. They would email her university to "prove" that she wasn't who she said she was. They made theories about who her father was (Eleanor has posted her dad on Snapchat—it is not, in fact, a billionaire working for Jive Records). There was a whole whack ass theory about her having a twin/triplets... They started involving Louis' family—mainly his mom and sisters. They would pressure them to "confirm" Larry, and they'd get upset whenever it was denied.

Louis' sisters were quite young—Lottie was 13/14, Fizzy was 11/12, and the twins were 9/10 when all of this was brewing. They looked up to Eleanor, who became like an older sister to them, and they got pretty defensive of her, as little kids often do.

So, in turn, Louis got more upset at the whole thing and would often go on rants on Twitter to deny it. Eleanor and Louis' best friend, Stan, would also tweet alongside him. Sadly, this contributed to the proliferation of the conspiracy. The more attention he brought onto it, the worse it became. I don't blame him for it, to be perfectly clear, but that's just a version of the Streisand effect.

This whole thing unfolded between late 2011 and late 2012. It wasn't immediate. It wasn't that one day everyone was joking and the next everyone was a conspiracy theorist. It shifted slowly.

So, that's the context.

The interaction you mention happened March 17th 2012. One Direction was doing a signing in Boston. Their debut album, Up All Night, had come out March 13th in America, so they were signing that. A fan approached the table and talked to all the guys. Harry was last in line. When she got to him, Harry gave her a smile and she asked him, "Are you and Louis dating?" Harry looked quite tired (they all did) and didn't seem particularly amused by the question. He just nodded. The fan pressed, "You are?" to which Harry gave her a lazy, "Yeah." Then the fan said, "I figured," and, as she was ushered to leave the line, Harry gave her a lazy smile.

Here you have the video. The specific interaction starts at 1:03 mins.

Here you have it in gif form

He didn't say they were dating. He just went along with a fan who joked about it. She was JOKING.

This is from the fan who asked this question, THE DAY after she asked the question. Not much of a Larrie if she's fantasizing about Harry romantically, huh? But I have more confirmation.

She actually thinks it's ridiculous that people are still going on about it, and thinks her question was "stupid". She quite literally wanted him to date Taylor Swift later that year...

She also confirmed that Harry was "being sarcastic":

So the fact that thirteen years later we're still having this conversation is insane. This is the person that took the video. She was never even a conspiracy theorist to begin with. She just liked them together.

And this is 100% the same fan. Her name is the same in both accounts (Daena), and she linked her old Twitter handle in the description of the video. It used to be YMCMBelieb. She has changed her Twitter handle since 2012, but if you search the old one on Twitter today, you'll find people replying to "Pogue_Malone."

Larries take Harry smiling at her "I figured" as him "being moved by her support." He was smiling at a fan who had paid to get his signature. He smiled at her when she first approached him, then smiled again as she left. The fan DIDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY THINK HE WAS WITH LOUIS. She was JOKING.

I'm going to answer #2 in this post but I'll move to separate posts for the other two.

2- Mario interview when they used sex innuendo (who push who)

I'm adding this one here because it's just the same exact thing as we just went over. It was a joke. Harry and Louis are BRITISH.

British humour carries a strong element of satire aimed at the absurdity of everyday life. Common themes include sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek, banter, insults, self-deprecation, taboo subjects, puns, innuendo, wit, and the British class system. These are often accompanied by a deadpan delivery which is present throughout the British sense of humour.

The "Mario Kart" interview happened in February 16th 2012. Combine your typical British humor with the context of how the fandom treated the whole "Larry" thing in early 2012" and you have your answer.

They're just joking. I don't know what else to tell you. They're joking. They're not openly discussing their sex life in an interview. Larries need to choose—were they a closeted couple that was forced to have fake girlfriends and limit their interactions in public or were they telling the world what sexual positions they favored? You can't have both at the same time.

Here's the interview:

It was posted in March but recorded in February. And they thought it'd be funny to joke about bumfucking. Because they were British boys.

I'm almost finished with the third question, but it'll have to be done in two separate posts if I want to be thorough.. I'll also do a separate post for the fourth one.

[rattlebear25]

HAZBIN HOTEL Big "PLOTHOLE" DEBUNKED?

Reviewers that criticize Hazbin Hotel for its "bad writing" have found this issue that maybe i debunked:

If the Free Will started when Lucifer gave Eve the Apple of the Knowledge, why Lilith left Adam, having the possibilty of express the Free Will of go away before it was invented?

It seems a plothole but pondering and remembering the lore of the Genesis, it's not.

First of all, the Apple gives Knowledge, that is the necessary informations to express the Free Will.

If you don't know enough, you can't be free. Knowledge makes people free of choose. And no, knowing that Adam is a bad husband is not acquaintance, it doesn't bring Lilith to realize Free Will of indipendence: expressing Free Will for her means knowing informations to survive alone without Adam but after she ran away cried in discomfort (i don't think she's sad because she's alone but because her escape was completely useless, she thought of being fierce and independent and of could do it alone but no.)

She doesn't know nothing to survive alone without Adam so she has still not experimented the Free Will.

It felt odd that all the Season 1 is goodly written and takes care about little details and then there are these huge errors in the screenplay. Luckly, reflecting a little, i discovered that there's no issue, also the Vaggie not knowing about Angels' weakness seems a plothole but it's not, maybe i will post my thoughts about it idk

EDIT:

I watched the intro in English again, not with the adaptation that can change the meaning of some sentences and in fact: Charlie says about her parents "they dreamed of share the magic of free will with humanity" implying that Free Will already existed. So reconstructing the story: Lilith and Adam were created as equals but, despite this, one wanted to dominate the other so Lilith runs away. Adam's second wife, Eve, is shaped to please her husband and does not rebel. Lucifer and Lilith then decide to share free will (which already exists, let's just remember that to Eve is denied because Adam's first woman had escaped while Adam was the darling of paradise so he could impose on Eve what he wanted) and with the knowledge of good and evil, the humanity, daughter of Adam and Eve is corrupted. So no mistake in the script, case closed. Probably who criticized this point of the story did because or they didn't watch well the show or they just watched the translation of that sequence idk

[barthistory]

La lunette d'approche (The Telescope),

René Magritte in 1963, Belgium

- 76 x 115 cm dimension, oil on canvas, currently located inside the Menil Collection-Houston, Texas.

This painting is a notable work during the Surrealist movement depicting a body of water under a soft blue sky with white clouds, seen through adjacent windows. The title of the painting "La Lunette D'approche" can be translated to "The Telescope", yet the work itself does not include any telescope in particular; making it an enigma out of the most mundane subjects. The backdrop behind the windows creates a sense of peace and tranquility while contrasting the black gap between the two windows which creates a sense of emptiness in the viewer. Another contrast can made with the realisticness ( not a word but I digress ) of said backdrop ( blue sky and white clouds ) versus the black void by a symbolism between reality and illusion. The details in the window frames and the walls makes the painting feel touchable, almost asking its viewer to come closer and touch. However, when we do come closer, the painting becomes simple and uncomplicated; highlighting the contrast between the blurrness of some components to the strong definition in other components. Thus, "La Lunette D'approche" as a whole invites contemplation about the true boundaries between what's reality and what's not.

[twopoppies]

Hi Gina, I have a debunked-or-not question about the "where do you want to sit? - next to you". A moment later someone shouts to them and apparently it's management saying "you can't sit together". But also, i've seen people claim that it was a photographer telling them to "get closer together". Do you know which one's real? My English is bad and I can't make out what and who is saying it. Thank you!

No, I agree with you. There's a woman yelling, "Get closer together" and she's probably one of the paps (or possibly a wrangler for the boys). Harry does look like he's asking someone (management?) something off to the side. I do think the "Where do you want to sit?" and the "Next to you" are accurate though.

[troythecatfish]

[psychologeek]

Fake News

This is a photo from February 12th (the latest) - over month prior to the "breaking" post (March 26th)

As you can see here:

Translation: "Israel Frees Two Of Its Hostages Amid Air Strike In Gaza").

But propaganda doesn't care about the truth, I guess.

(plz rb this, thank you)

[pucktoxicity]

it was a video on twitter but nico was with his mom in the car not a girl!

^^^ i figured.

plus there are… things (😁😉) coming up that i’m sure his family will be in attendance of and supporting him at, as they usually like to come to these events!!!

also can we talk about how GORGEOUS nico’s mother is 😍 those genes go crazy

[shyjusticewarrior]

Just saw someone on insta say pitbulls are genetically predisposed to aggression in the year of our lord 2025

[voxina]

[saranilssonbooks]

My favorite idiotic argument as to why Moby-Dick wouldn't qualify as a queer story: Melville never explicitly used the term "homosexual", never mind that the word didn't exist yet.

[mrs-monaghan]

Shaz! For as long as I’ve been in this fandom, I am haunted by this jikook concert where jimin slaps jks face like some shit went down. It’s when they make like a roof ? I can’t for the life of me find it! Do you have any info about what may have happened? I’m still learning so many things😩

Ever since u sent this i have been trying to find an angle where u can clearly see they were messing around and its been like mission impossible. Even my friends couldn't find a different angle.

@lovelysmyleyes finally found something on TT and its the best I can do.

As u can see at the end there JK's cheeks protruding coz he's smiling. Jimin slapped him playfully. People just like sharing the problematic angle coz they are misinformed or just being assholes. Or they cut the video off before u can see both of them smiling... wasn't just JK.

They were just goofing around, anon. People just be doing too much, is all...