#like. majima. you are not normal
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i think my biggest problem with the pirate game is majima's absolutely unhinged emotional sheltering being presented as like. a good and healthy and normal thing. which. like. i SUPPOSE the only acceptable situation to do that in is with a child youre responsible for. but its still not acknowledged at all that its unhealthy..? but then again this is how kiryu saga has been for years too. youre just supposed to look at it and know better. they dont really spell it out. at least they didnt until infinite wealth
#its just like. these guys are making the best of a really bad situation#the really bad situation is. themselves#it was i think more obvious with kiryu because his life was ruined over it#and so was majimas but we didnt See majimas life in those games#so it feels like. the game is kind of. approaching majimas coping mechanisms uncritically...?#sure theres lessons to be learned from that but its like. not something to try and emulate#there IS stuff that is genuinely like. good. and healthy. and that i appreciate the writers for presenting in the way they did#especially the stuff with how. you can and WILL make mistakes. you will fuck up beyond your wildest dreams#and sometimes the consequences will be irreversible. but its never too late to start doing the right thing#majima does have a really good grasp of this. he always has its one of his biggest strengths#but his codependent relationship with kiryu IS like. actively ruining his life and his relationship with saejima#and he just does it all over again with noah. except its kinda warranted this time because it is an actual kid#but are we supposed to look at it and go aww. thats so nice of him#like. majima. you are not normal#tbf the stuff with saejima does make me think they are aware of this and want us to be aware of this. its just not the tone they wanted to#take with this game#i guess i wouldve preferred an infinite wealth style deconstruction of majima and his coping mechanisms#but its also SO majima to do. All Of This instead of. actually facing his problems#like hes stillllll running#thats the point#and saejima knows this. hes made peace with it#yapping#majima gaiden
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kazumaji week 2024 - minigames
hostess g-goromi... rrrrrrrrRRRRRRR RRRRRUFF
#I'm the most normal I could possibly be right now#what did kiryu say to her who knows#I like to think was it stupid as hell and only made sense in his head but to her it was like the finest literature#goth mad dog goromi is defo becoming a fav of mine 😩 as if all goromis aren't my fav but you know#suggestive#yakuza#ryu ga gotoku#kiryu kazuma#majima goro#goromi#kazumaji#my art
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can't stop thinking about how quick saejima is to light majima's cigarette. hurrying to pull his lighter out for him before majima can do it himself, before saejima even gets out his own pack. the fact that he's got a portable ashtray that they both use.
#rgg8 gaiden spoilers#yakuza spoilers#rgg spoilers#rgg8 gaiden#pirates in hawaii#pirate yakuza in hawaii#saemaji#taiga saejima#goro majima#ada speaks#you may say. ada this is like. pretty normal. and i will say. sure. yea.#doesnt stop my brain though
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Idk more random small details about the pyih ending that make me insane because I can't shut up about this stupid game:
Idk how deliberate this was from the translation team (and I have my own mixed feelings about the caption translations from more recent rgg games) but I really like the (potentially unintentional) double-meaning from Saejima saying "Guys our age are supposed to be smart enough not to go chasin' legends." You'd think that because the entire conversation revolves around and constantly repeats the words "dream/yume" (cough cough Yakuza 5) he'd say "not to go chasin' dreams", but I think by using the word "legend" instead he's able to refer to not only the legend of the treasure that everyone's been pursuing the whole game, but also the living legend himself, Kiryu Kazuma (in jp and eng he is referred to very often as a legend/legendary ("densetsu no ryuu/yakuza" - "legendary dragon/yakuza")). Not only was Majima chasing after the legend of some miracle treasure but he's also been chasing the "legend" that is Kiryu himself (something something idolization, something something Majima always wanting to bring back that strength and vitality Kiryu had at the peak of his "legend" days (see: yakuza 1 with Majima trying to fight Kiryu constantly to help him regain his strength, trying to especially hard to support him since yakuza 3), even as the chance of that happening dwindles, even if reality is literally telling him to his face that they can't go back to those days, that everyone's getting older and not what they used to be). Which imo makes Majima saying "Well, still just a dream in the end." all the more heartbreaking. It's resigned, not only to the fact that he'd never find that miracle fix to save Kiryu's life but also the fact that he can't, no matter how hard he tries, keep Kiryu around forever, that he can't keep up the image of the legendary Dragon of Dojima up for him forever. Idk I just think that was very cool and sneaky as hell if intentional, especially since they don't switch out the word "dream" for "legend" anywhere else in the conversation.
Saejima mentioning how Daigo said "Majima's runnin' around like he's forty again". Okay honestly I'm just putting this because I think it's funny that even while Daigo was going through his emo era and pissed off at Kiryu for "killing" his dad, he still remembers how enthusiastic/energetic Majima was over Kiryu all the way back in ~y1, even though we never saw him in that game. I mean it's painful as hell to think about now, considering the present day in-universe and what would end up becoming of that enthusiasm as the years went on but uh, hey.
Majima being so god damn deflective while Saejima's in the middle of revealing all his motivations for going to Hawaii. He says 3 whole lines during that part of the cutscene but it's all so Majima-like it hurts (this part's gonna be Long):
• "Told him that, huh?" (responding to Saejima recounting what Majima told Shigaki about not wanting to go to Hawaii) - Majima trying to act nonchalant/aloof while knowing what Saejima's about to start bringing up, trying to act that way even though we all know damn well that he remembers perfectly (and probably painfully) well how he acted/what he said before going to Hawaii, considering the circumstances surrounding the whole situation. His body language also starts to change from here; he turns his head to look directly at Saejima when talking to him less often, spends more time looking ahead/up/down/avoiding direct eye contact in general even when Saejima turns to look him while speaking multiple times/for prolonged periods of time (istg I could talk about Majima's body language in serious moments like these literally forever but I'll try to keep it brief) • "Kid's always been a ball breaker" (lmao) - Paired with the line before this one (Daigo's reaction to Majima). He tries to sidestep the actual point of mentioning what Daigo said, (directly exposing just how much Majima changes when Kiryu is around/involved) with feigned exasperation, and once again does not actually acknowledge Saejima's point. His body language also changes again to something more restless; (adjusts his posture from the previously relaxed way he was leaning against the car, looks away from Saejima completely, starts tapping his foot/bouncing his leg, lifting his cigarette without actually taking a drag from it) • And then of course the big one: "Well, still just a dream in the end. Stupid or not." Up until this point, Majima hasn't said anything of any actual substance until Saejima directly namedrops Kiryu. It's about the most he actually says of any worth regarding his feelings towards Kiryu himself, but that line alone reveals so much about his feelings not only in that moment, but likely the feelings he's had throughout the series towards Kiryu. It's totally unfiltered, for once, showing off his resignation from not only his inability to help Kiryu by the end of this game but likely also the weight of chasing after Kiryu all these years (again, "Guys our age are supposed to be smart enough not to go chasin' legends." Cue Majima always chasing after Kiryu/what Kiryu wants for literal decades). It's a Singular straight answer after two deflections but it says so damn much, especially coming from Majima himself. • I also just wanna note the quick range of expressions Majima's face goes through when Saejima says "Yeah, too bad about that 'elixir of eternal life.'"
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Apart from the different expressions he makes themselves, I think it's so fucking interesting (read: painful) how this occurs when Saejima (who, by the way, is at that moment not looking at Majima) is technically supposed to be the one that the player's eyes are focused on in that moment, since he's the one speaking. The camera doesn't try to manipulate the focus of the shot to hide Majima's expressions/feelings, they don't cut him out of the frame, they don't actually do anything to directly hide Majima's face at all, but most people (including Saejima himself) would miss this regardless, because it's done in a moment where, theoretically, nobody would or should be looking. Hell, even when the camera gives us a Direct close-up shot of Majima's face when Saejima mentions Kiryu ("Kazuma Kiryu. You never could give up on that one.") his expression doesn't betray too much of how he feels, but it's only once focus is finally taken away from him that he becomes most expressive. (rgg has always been so good with showing off characters' feelings with microexpressions and I feel like this applies to Majima especially. the same kind of thing happened in y0 when he saw Makoto at the end of the game (another scene that I could analyze for hours). The times when he doesn't speak and just. Reacts subtly and potentially subconciously with his face are ironically some of the moments where he says the most about himself. Go off king don't openly express your thoughts or feelings at all 🔥🔥🔥) • And then after all that (when Saejima looks at Majima again) Majima changes the topic to Noah. You could argue that Saejima, with bringing everything before that up, was trying to open up the opportunity for discussion on Majima's part about his behavior/feelings towards Kiryu, however this was largely unsuccessful. He only succeeds in this when he finally just says Kiryu's name outright (which, by the way, surprised me so much when I first watched the cutscene. I thought they were going to keep dancing around saying Kiryu's name directly/only implying him for the rest of that conversation, but I straight up gasped when Saejima said his whole name like that. It was significant, and Saejima wanted it to be, too), and even then that success is only marginal. It's enough for Majima to finally give away one of his "real" thoughts, completely unfiltered, about as straightforward as it's gonna get, just Once in that whole part of their conversation, but after that he immediately goes to pivot the topic of the conversation to something else. Which like, damn. Damn. That's pretty crazy.
The final detail I wanna mention, (this one I think mostly everyone got) was the way that Majima repeats his line from the beginning of the game "Where do I begin? That's right… (etc)." I love how they decided to have Majima say that line again differently, because the differences say so much. The version from the beginning of the game is said in a deeper more "intimidating" tone. The whole point of it is for story-telling drama, the theatrics, specifically to entertain/pique the interest of an audience, but the way he says it to Kiryu is much more easy-going and authentic. Ironically, it's once he leaves the player's sights and once he's with Kiryu that he discards the theatrics, where he simply shows off his fully genuine self re-telling the story. (One thing I will note is that the eng sub/dub translated that line so it would be different in the beginning and end ("Alright -- let's set things straight." (to player) -> "Where do I begin? That's right." (to Kiryu) even though he says the same thing twice in the japanese audio. I know that this is so that they can match up Majima's audio with his animations in the english dub, and they reuse the eng dub captions even for the japanese dub, and while I do not neccessarily. Like that. It does hammer in the tone difference between the way he speaks to the player vs. to Kiryu further (again, trying to be more intimidating vs. more easy going), which is an okay consolation if nothing else). I just think it's crazy to hear him talk like that with Kiryu after all this time, considering that he usually only talks this directly with Kiryu in fleeting moments. No high-pitched voice/fluctuating tones, no "Yo, Kiryu-chan", just being straightforward and to the point. Man. God.
It's been 4 days since I beat this game and everytime I see someone post about it or think about it for more than 10 seconds I die and explode into a million pieces. At some point I want to 100% this game so I can get as much dialogue/as many details as possible (also the game's just really fun lol), but for now I am just rotating this cutscene in my head forever and ever in an endless cycle. I am so sorry for posting about this game like everyday but I am so unwell over it it's not even funny I hope you can forgive me </333
#yakuza#rgg#ryu ga gotoku#like a dragon pirate yakuza in hawaii#pirate yakuza in hawaii#pyih#pirate yakuza spoilers#man i still don't know what tags to use for this game there's too many#majima goro#txt#feeling extremely physically unwell (i am fucking Dying) so i am channeling that into mental unwellness through this game instead <333#this is probably all obvious but like you know what i don't even care these details still make me SICK and majima makes me SICK augh#i think i'm still undergoing shock#can't believe touto hospital made yakuza yaoi history Twice and the people working there don't even know it. Crazy#anyways if you have any other thoughts or things you noticed let me know :)))#that or tell me to Please stop yapping i'll accept either honestly#sorry i'm extremely normal about this game. Clearly orz#certified yap sessions
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first time using alight motion!!! im so excited for this game i need it injected into my brain.
#ryu ga gotoku#like a dragon#yakuza#rgg#rgg fanart#majima goro#I LOVE PIRATES SO MUCH ARE YOU KIDDIN ME#im so normal about tjis game
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Been thinking about modern Nishimaji HEAVY. Because Nishitani's death was a big push for Majima to adopt personas as a form of self-preservation, I wanna see the AU where Nishitani lives and becomes Majima's biggest enabler, where Majima keeps trying to be everything Nishitani is but can't.
Majima has all the foresight, all the anxiety that Nishitani doesn't have. He cares about others too much, he's got all the heart Nishitani lost somewhere along the way in life. As greedy as he is, I could definitely see Nishitani subconsciously feeding off that in current day Majima. And current Majima would be easily influenced by Nishitani to do whatever it is he wants. In a way, I think it was good for Majima's growth to be given that space to find independence, but having Nishitani there meant that he wouldn't have had to do it alone.
I don't think they'd be perfect, definitely not healthy, and likely not happy all the time, but they'd be great with each other. TOO good. And of course we can't have nice things in this house
#in my mind they're incapable of speaking to each other like normal people but there's nothing a good fight can't fix#guys i miss them so much you dont UNDERSTAND#i saw someone say that the only critique they could give of yakuza 0 was that the character writing was too good and i agree LMAO#the way Majima was handled later on did not rub me the right way#sigh nishitani could fix him (make him worse)#all of this came to me while playing pirate yakuza in hawaii .#happy 10th anniversary yakuza 0 thank you for inventing gay people#yakuza#rgg#ryu ga gotoku#like a dragon#yakuza 0#majima goro#homare nishitani#nishimaji
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slowly convincing myself that kiryu would have less inhibitions about killing someone than majima. majima has been told it's better to get by without killing if possible and he failed the one hit he was assigned. it's not that it's an option entirely off the table for him, but i think you'd have to push him pretty far for him to seriously consider it as a valid solution. that, and he probably has had enough experiences with shit like hits and the like for him to see them as flawed courses of action more often than not. the facade of being a loose cannon capable of anything may be etched into his performances, but when it counts i think he'd rather find an alternative solution instead.
but kiryu. i keep thinking about nishiki genuinely believing he killed the guy in the empty lot for a moment. and him picking up the pipe in the sewer after beating kuze. about nishiki joking about him being a sadist, getting into fights for fun. i don't think it's all that far fetched to say kiryu is at least more tempted than majima when it comes to killing someone. he's already a person driven by emotion and instinct and impulse, he himself says he makes decisions based on whether he loves or hates the outcome. and if he enjoys beating people to the brink, gets a little too lost in the thrill, maybe the body at his feet won't be getting up anymore. that said it'd be silly to think kiryu wouldn't be explicitly aware of tendencies like this and feel guilt over them, most likely.
there's also kazama's influence over him. i think, had kazama told him to, kiryu would've killed without question. i don't think there's a person in majima's life capable of steering him like that, unless y3-5 have decided against that and i just don't know about it yet
anyway. majima could kill a guy, but kiryu would kill a guy. thank you for coming to my ted talk
#soda.txt#yakuza#kiryu kazuma#majima goro#additionally majima ready to kill would be a fucking terrifying sight#kiryu wouldn't be all that different but i see majima getting serious in a particularly fucked way about it#like the person shoving a dagger into your kidneys is something beyond goro majima#no obvious performance. no exaggarated joy. no showmanship to be seen#would he even say anything? i kind of doubt it#and while he normally would at least play into the whole getting off on violence thing. i don't think that'd be presenr#you don't know if kazuma kiryu is going to kill you this time#but you sure as shit can tell when goro majima is going to do that. probably a bit too late but y'know
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guys guys guys i need an english translation for the sun at 36.5 c so fuckigb bad i'm shaking i need a translation i neeed to know what the lyrics are so bad
#yakuza#majima goro#no you don't get it i'm so paranoid if they slipped some sad shit in the song like today is a diamond/24 hr cinderella#the song is such a banger btw it's so catchy and a vibe i love it :))) which is why i am Scared#hhgRAHHHHHHH#i know somebody out there's probably on it or going to get one out in like a day or so i just need to be patient but grahhhhhh#scratches at the walls bites the bars of my cage I NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING NOW PLEASE I'M NOT NORMAL RIGHT NOW
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also insane to me that some people out there genuinely think y0 shouldve ended w makoto and majima getting together at the end Like did u play this game with ur eyes open........................ ?
#LIKE GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLL LETS THINKKKKKKKKKK.#like we literally spent soooooooooooo so long in this game establishing that majima would never ever be happy living a normal civilian life#probably because hes kind of insane and sick in the head#and the underworld objectively and truly and unquestionable completely ruined makotos life in just about every way possible#and not in a million trillion years would majima ever put her in a position where this would continue to happen#namely by continuing to associate with her in any capacity while continuing to be in the yakuza#and again given how organized crime put her through literal hell and back through absolutely no fault of her own#she certainly wouldnt want that for herself either. Like the entire appeal of this relationship#is the fact that what brought them together and gave them the connection that they had#also fundamentally opposes this relationship continuing in any capacity whatsoever#like thats literally what makes it fun and interesting. You people are just boring as hell. GO READ A ROMANCE NOVEL
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Playing Yakuza kiwami and experiencing Majima Everywhere is some kind of religious experience i think
#oh hello its you again!#how are you going to be insane this time?#i see very normal of you#and kiryu's lukewarm reactiona have me like#majima stop wasting your time on him you deserve better#feeling chill and normal about yakuza
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if you view majima as immune to resentment how would you go about classifying his relationship to sagawa? i think it’s obviously multi-faceted, but i would still say there’s resentment thrown into that mix at least with my thought process 🤔
i am actually fascinated by majima's lack of resentment towards sagawa. his final scene with him was such a contrast to how i expected him to behave. like really? youre not gonna spit in this guy's face?? he literally thanks him and clearly still has respect for him. and i was baffled by this for a long time but i've been able to make sense of it by realizing majima doesn't take things *personally*
even throughout the game, as much as he can't stand sagawa, i don't think he's quite... resentful. here's the definition im working with to be clear
like he does get annoyed or frustrated but i think he still ultimately holds himself responsible for all the shit sagawa is putting him through. because as far as he's concerned, he signed up for it the moment he disobeyed shimano in '85. he knew what the consequences would be, so he has no room to complain. so he doesn't actually perceive any of it as unfair treatment. there's no indignation there
i have no doubt that he deeply dislikes the man, i just don't think he like. simmers in this feeling the way most people would. he's already over it by the end of the game. and it's because he's way past giving a shit about himself in any way. he doesn't hold grudges like that because to do that you have to have some emotional attachment to your own wellbeing. so you can get mad at injustice being done to you. and he literally doesn't. majima never complains about unfair treatment because he simply does not perceive anything as such, and he never shifts responsibility or blame. he takes it all on himself
#i love him hes so normal#majima goro#plus i think for resentment to fester you have to like. keep quiet about your anger#which he. doesnt#hes quite open about it he even almost punches sagawa. its not a secret#hes like... so defeated. in his interactions with him. it doesnt feel resentful#yapping#asks#sorry to be pedantic btw lol#majeem#my analysis#sagawa#i guess
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itty bitty merch haul 😊 playing cards, movie eyepatch, majeemer necklace, kiryu lighter and movie booklet~ the lil teeth on snake tho 🥺
#the rest of the merch doesn't matter do you realize how nuts I went for the boyfriend belt#his belt in the game is black ok so why's it snakeskin here huh it wouldn't have been hard to find a black belt#I'M CONNECTING THE DOTS KAZUMAJI REAL#but brahk majima doesn't even wear a snakeskin belt HUSH NOW PISSANTS YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU SAY#rrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRR#if the movie didn't exist I'd prolly be like 60% more normal#rgg merch
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genuinely always so shocked to see mirei hate. like literally god forbid women do anything.
#contra.txt#y5 haters in general... does playable haruka mean nothing to you...#DOES SHINADA TATSUO MEAN NOTHING TO YOU...#for legal reasons this is a joke people are allowed to feel however they want about whatever it's just viddy games#and i fully acknowledge y5 and its litany of flaws#of which there are certainly enough for any given individual to justifiably dislike/hate its entirety but I AM A Y5 LOVER THRU AND THRU#saejima's arc is just an arguably less interesting rehash of the one he had in 4?#(jail; jailbreak; betrayed by his lil buddy guy#but now we're sans the interesting character stuff of his feelings regarding the hit. & also i miss his hair.#& that's not even to say i think saejima is boring in y5 i think there's some interesting subtext to take away from his character#unique to this entry but it's pretty hard to deny how much is literally just y4 again but now he's bald)#BUT WHO GAFS he got buffed to hell gameplay-wise and punches bears now#and also baba's a great character and he doesn't have to do a whole chase minigame if a cop sees him anymore#bloated/unfocused feeling in general to the game?#WELL THAT'S JUST MORE CONTENT BABY!!! only a real issue if you're a completionist imo#+ are u telling me you don't wanna drive a taxi? u don't wanna play a video game in which the goal is to drive as normally as possible?#and i loveeeee multiple protagonists yay <3 y0 y4 and y5 are my favs so far lol (up to y6)#kiryu's inclusion in y5 also feels way more justified than in y4. he was so tacked on there i'm trying to remember what he even really did#other than tiger dropping as a boss fight before instantly forgetting how to tiger drop the second he became playable#and losing track of yasuko and getting tag-teamed by akiyama and tanimura (cough) and beating up daigo#but in exchange akiyama becomes the protag that feels kinda tacked on in y5. way less so than kiryu in y4 tho for sure#anyway. weird/strangely justified plot beats? WELL THAT'S JUST EVERY YAKUZA GAME#an arguably strange/poor writing choice for majima especially given how he ended up being written in y0?#well honestly other than the age thing i think it makes him more interesting... he's kinda fucked up!#but i do get why people are /really/ not a fan of it. ik i just said i think it makes him more interesting but if it gets retconned#or even just never mentioned again i wouldn't be surprised tbh#but additionally he's not even a major character in y5 so it feels like it's not really a significant complaint imo#anyway anyone can do this ('this' being acknowledging the flaws of a thing and then letting how much they otherwise enjoy#said thing determine how much they let said flaws influence their overall opinion) ...such is the beauty of subjectivity... i love you.#yakuza
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day ??? of entertaining the thought exercise where majima didn't end up in the hole, and if as a result of that saejima's presence in his life could've healed pieces of him somehow. or allowed for a kind of facsimile of a normalcy in due time. like "a semi-coherent understanding of a home that's shared with another person you care about" bare minimum type of normalcy. perhaps it's remarkable that i do not know if that's a possibility even with such a large divergence from canon
#yakuza#sponsored by a line in my magamo fic that i like for the moody scene it's in#but don't know if it checks out really#it implies that there was a time where majima could've seen the above mentioned scenario as a possibility and. idk. would he though#that might be wishful thinking on my part when he's just so insistent on not dreaming like that#but then again define a dream. you could brush that up to planning for the future in some fashion perhaps#future-proofing baybee. maybe you can slip in a human desire if you're not paying much attention and rip it out later when you are#like this is more that would something like this even cross his mind absentmindedly at that point in his life#even if he dismisses it later in whatever fashion#man. writing a normal character is so cool <3
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It's crazy to me that all the yakuzer guys I have rotating in my head are all so Dog but all in completely different ways
#if i had a nickel for every yakuza character that could be described as “dogcore”#anyways this post is about uhhhhhhh#*squints* majima mine rikiya kiryu and nishiki. probably with honorable mentions that i cant think of atm#theyre all dog and theyve all given me some form of brainworm and some of them have many similarities#yet they are all dog in their own way. its like actually crazy#yes i know its because one of the core parts of the yakuza code is loyalty and loyalty = dog#but like. these guys were all a little insane about it#okay i cant call rikiya and kiryu insane about it because they either did it in a way i can respect or (mostly) broke the cycle#the other three? dog (derogatory)#like im sorry but two of them died over being dog and one of them is in a constant state of internal decay over being dog. and is Mad#and 90% of it can be traced to something at least a little gay going on. but that's a whole other problem#augh im really normal about them sorry they all suck#actually no nvm nishiki i love you they cant make me hate you. but man.#now that i think about it this is actually just gay people i respect vs gay people i do not respect#with a sprinkling of Dog
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i stg when i finish y0 i will be releasing my transfem majima manifesto. be ready
#i know you believers must be out there. you have to be#i have Sso many thoughts#but i dont wanna say shit now and have it immediately made wrong/irrelevant by story i havent gotten to yet#its like. i dont genuinely believe majima is actually fr transfem coded in the games bc i dont think sega would do that#also based on what little i know of the rest of the games that take place later#but at the same time there is SO MUCH evidence to back up this point#y0#yakuza#like the more i think about it the more i find#wym theres a character being forced to perform a certain type of masculinity in the hopes of being accepted back into their family#what else am i supposed to think#anyway. bedtime#can u tell i am being normal about this game
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