#literally as far from the last tennant regeneration as possible

[hubrishazard]

this whole show is just a scheme made up by Big Tennant to sell more David Tennant

[doctor-who-binge]

2am rant incoming

I hate the Master single handily destroying Gallifrey more than anything else from Chibnall's Era.

Gallifrey

It ruins the amazing revelation in the 50th anniversary that Gallifrey was saved not destroyed by The Moment.

It ruins The Doctors return to his home even if he was pissed AF and popped Rassilon off plus ran away for a second time. Still the episode introduced a new version on The General, we get to re-meet the woman from Karn, we get a look at Gallifrey again, properly, in the Nu series.

It explained that Gallifrey was moved to the edge of time for protection just to be destroyed a seasons (or two) later

If the master single handily destroyed it now, it doesn't make sense that the master had to use a chamaeleon circuit to hide as a human (Yana) in order to escape the time war..... he could have just destroyed Gallifrey

ALLLLLLLL the potential a returned Gallifrey held for plot vanished on its second appearance in Nu who.

ALLLLLLL the potential new Time Lords being added to the series also vanished (and I don't fucking mean past time lords via their secret intelligence organization thingy)

Cyber Time Lords

One word: why.

Why? Its Just. So. Fucking. Dumb.

I hate the over usage of Daleks and Cybemen as is.... now you gotta poison Gallifrey with them too?

Cybermen have parallel evolution among "people" which I originally assumed were humans or human like. Which didn't originally include Time Lords, they weren't compatible.

Also the primary reasons they evolved: Desperate survival, search for immortality, forced like Missy using 3W

Survival for Time Lords was moving their planet (reality) or being higher energy beings as Rassilon wanted. Not a lesser cyber species.

Immortality for Time Lords....... they're fucking Time Lords. TIME Lords. Lords of Time, Chronarchs. Immortality they've basically got, look how many times Rassilon comes back.

Forced. How was The Master able to compel the stupidly pompous proud Time Lord race aristocracy into becoming emotionless machines.

Timeless Child

Positive: it confirms my personal view that Time Lords are Gallifreyan Aristocracy not synonymous with Gallifreyans. But there are like a billion other confirmations of that.

The Timeless Child species should be far more advanced than Time Lords but they are never explained.

It makes no sense that they allow the Timeless Child to live after they were done with them

And even if they did there would then be no need to give the Timeless Child another "round" of regeneration to 11? Unless they put a 12 regeneration block on the Timeless Child. But that brings back the question of why let them live in the first place.

Why does Ruth a pre-1st Doctor have a blue police box? Its established that this fluke happens in literally the first story of Doctor Who when Susan is confused that it didn't change when they landed in a new place. (Unless she is post-Hartnell which I hope; possibly a forced regeneration that was erased; granted in order for that to fit with 11's idea of being the last one Tennants second regeneration has to "not count")

From a TV viewership perspective The Timeless Child doesn't change The Doctor in our story viewing minds. Confirmed by the fact that she just drops the watch of all the info somewhere in the TARDIS and its never mentioned again. But it absolutely sucks for people who are fans of the world building more than just The Doctor's adventures.

The fact that so much emphasis was put on this in-story but is basically over and done with post flux is also kinda of annoying (tho I hope it stays that way. Let it die)

Most people's gripe: It makes The Doctor inherently special. Maybe thats why he ran away, not because he was a rebel who wanted to travel and see the stars and see "why good always seems to prevail in the universe" (which tbf if the show proves anything its that good doesn't but I digress) or perhaps he was instinctively afraid of being abused and used by Time Lord society—without remembering why he has the fear or urge to flee.

If The Doctor was loomed into the House of Lungbarrow as a Time Lord, was originally a peasant Gallifreyan sent to the Time Lord academy, or was half human half Time Lord— doesn't actually fucking matter. None of those origin stories actually fuck up the idea of The Doctor just being a person defined by their deeds not their very super special species-changing universe-changing origin.

I have my own ideas about world building that I suppose go against the canon. For example, 10 claims his people invented black holes. I personally like to interpret many of the fantastical things about Time Lords inventing shit and changing the universe, even establishing rationality, is simply their aristocratic mythos. Kinda like the mythos of many aristocracies & royalty saying they come from Gods or did impossible things in legendary era's of their history. Obviously thats one view..... but I'm not the goddam show runner so my opinion doesn't matter at all. Unlike Chibnall's whose view does matter.

Side note ""Hartnell"" had a strong line in Twice Upon a Time "I have the right to live and die as myself" marking that as his first life and explaining why the 1st doctor was obnoxiously childlike.

The Flux

I enjoyed a lot of it as a story

The introduction of the Mouri gave me a little pat on the back about my idea of Time Lords making legendary shit up about themselves

Hated the Timeless Child bits obviously

WE LITERALLY SAW PLANETS IN OUR OWN SOLAR SYSTEM DESTROYED AND THE UNIVERSE WAS NEVER FUCKING RESET (unless I missed it but Dan's house is still gone that implies nothing was reset)

But like I said, I hate the destruction of Gallifrey so much more than any of my other complaints. And it was unfortunately confirmed to be the case in the Power of The Doctor when The Master claims he stole technology after he ransacked it.

IF the Timless Child had been introduced WITHOUT the destruction of Gallifrey and Cyber Time Lords than I probably would have been significantly more open to the concept. But all three of these things happening at once threw me for a pissed off loop. Not to mention the Timeless Child was almost entirely exposition. More telling not enough showing.

My ways to fix it

The explanation of "The Other" (aside from 11)

It being The Master

An old myth buried in the matrix that The Master found

The Master lying and inserting it into the matrix

Everyone forgets it happens and its never mentioned again; unsatisfying tho

..... I can't think of anything to fix Gallifrey being destroyed since The Master's confirmation in The Power of The Doctor

Frankly with a retcon this massive, she should have opened the fob watch, learned all about it, and let it be the end of the TV Doctor Who. Millions of people would be pissed and heartbroken but it sounds like something that happens in a show finale.

I get that a lot of people accept shit they like and throw out shit they don't like. I do. Tho I try to see where it can fit in the story in a way I like rather or at least seems reasonable rather than 100% discarding. But this is so significantly huge it feels impossible to actually ignore going forward world building wise. No amount of me refusing this canon will magically make Gallifrey and new Time Lords available writing material for any future show runners.

Literally any gripes I had with Moffat (which many where changed on rewatch which is why I've considered rewatching timeless child BS) absolutely pale in comparison to these. Except seeing the angels moving, I vehemently reject that... it was imaginary we all never saw it happen. ... Which is very easy to do, getting rid of the timeless child is not so easy. Go through Tardis Fan wiki and the timeless child has unfortunately seeped into many articles because of how game changing it was and how far back in history it was.

Again if Gallifrey hadn't been obliterated so soon after coming back I'd be way more open to the idea— I could rewatch those episodes again and see if my mind changes. But Cyber time lords and the destruction of Gallifrey sending me into a hatred swimming pool in an otherwise amazing episode probably indicates my mind would not be changed on those two parts.

[takaraphoenix]

Dr who for the ask game

Thanks for playing! This is also a big, fun one! :O (I do love that the majority of these asks hit target on my own biggest obsessions x3 We checked off like all the live action shows at this point, I think, the only things left are anime/animated xDDD)

Again with a cut due to the sheer size. ^^°°°

Top 5 favourite characters: CAPTAIN JACK HARKNESS, Martha Jones, Donna Noble, The Doctor, Yasmin Kahn

Other characters you like: Rory Williams Pond, Graham O’Brien, Mickey Smith, Bill Potts, Sarah Jane Smith, Craig Owens

Least favourite characters: Rose Tyler by a landslide

Otps: not realy any actual OTPs but ships I guess I’m fond of would be Vasta/Jenny and Rory/Amy

Notps: every ship involving the Doctor, because I just honestly find it weird and uncomfortable to look at the Doctor as a romantic or even worse yet sexual being, but most of all Doctor/Rose and Doctor/River, also Jack/Ianto

Favourite friendships: I am living for the current team dynamic, 13-Yaz-Graham-Ryan are really good but my forever favorite is the Doctor and Jack, also the best team-up was the Doctor with Donna and Martha, that was perfect

Favourite family: THE FAM! 13′s team

Favourite episodes:oooh mmh, I do have multiple favorites, so let’s do this!

Blink: it is such a good episode, there was a time I just popped that one in when I had 40 minutes to waste

Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords: for me personally, this is where Doctor Who peaked. My absolute favorite storyline and episodes and team-up - my favorite Doctor with BOTH my favorite companions in an episode with my favorite Master as the enemy. Amazing. There was a time when I would regularly rewatch this, just these three

Turn Left/The Stolen Earth/Journey’s End:Suuuch a satisfying conclusion for a four series plotline, all of the companions coming together like that? It was so good

The Lodger & Closing Time: I love Craig and I love how these two episodes switch things up!

Favourite season/book/movie: Rather obviously, series 3 - the return of Jack, the series where Martha is the companion, a series with my favorite Doctor and four of my favorite episodes in it!

Favourite quotes:THE ANGELS HAVE THE PHONE BOX! xD And the wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff! I got that one on a necklace even! *laughs*

Best musical moment: uuurgh the soundtrack of this show is actually so good? I listened to it on a loop for years. Series 3 and 4 being my favorites, they make you feel things, man.

Moment that made you fangirl/boy the hardest: Just this series when Jack returned. And let me elaborate to just convey how hard I fangirled at that, because it wasn’t just “oh a fave!”.

You see, Jack is... kind of why I’m here? I watched the first series with my mother back when it started airing in Germany. But they kind of... stopped dubbing it and it stopped airing in Germany and eh, I was okay with it because this show seemed weird like they just switched out the actor of the MAIN CHARACTER who does that what the fuck and I really liked Jack but he was gone now too so oh well.

However, then I read online about how Jack was in series 3. So... I went online and Doctor Who is genuinely the first TV show I ever watched in English, because I wanted to see Jack but there was no dub.

Then series 3 ended and both Jack and Martha left and I was very meh because I remembered that this is the show that constantly replaces its whole cast.

You can probably guess what happened next, but Jack was in the finale of series 4. So I went back into Doctor Who, rewatched what there has been so far all the way up to the series 4 finale - and that was when I was sold, because holy shit even with the switching of companions, they just bring them back! They just brought them all back! That was such a good pay-off.

Ironically, that was when I actually stuck around and started watching the show in real time instead of waiting for the next Jack appearance to bring me back from hibernation. Ironically because - well, that was the last we saw of anyone. (Aside from 10 in the 50 year special.)

That hard, hard cut from 10 to 11, no return of any companions...

Needless to say that when 12 came and went with no care for anything pre-11, I kind of... came to accept that this was it. Especially when they announced yet another hard cut - as in Moffat would finally be replaced and with the new era, both a new Doctor and new companions - I was so sure we’d never get to see anyone from the old crew again.

So when, after literally ten years, Jack Harkness returned and was so... so... Jack, I made the loudest, most unholy sound and the excitement of them actually acknowledging that he would be back for more and he would be there when the Doctor needs him? Tears of joy.

(but aso pls #LetMarthaMeet13 okay? Okay)

When it really disappointed you:YOU’RE MAKING A 50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL. YOU HAVE SOOO MANY GOOD COMPANIONS. BUT. BUT YOU BRING NONE OF THEM BACK. ONLY ROSE TYLER’S FACE. OF ALL OF THE FACES. OF EVERYONE I COULD HAVE SEEN AGAIN IN THAT SPECIAL, IT HAD TO BE BILLIE PIPER’S MEDIOCRE ACTING. REALLY? REALLY??

Saddest moment: When 10 regenerated

Most well done character death: Surprisingly enough, this show makes me care even about the one episode characters to the degree that I find their deaths frustrating. It’s pretty good at character deaths overall

Favourite guest star: Does Craig Owens count? Because he only had two appearances in total. And the second one was genuinely a surprise to me; I was sure that The Lodger would be a stand-alone, never to be seen again kind of deal

Favourite cast member: John Barrowman! David Tennant! Freema Agyeman! I love all three of them and seeing them in other things always makes me really happy!

Character you wish was still alive: I mean, Bill. Can you imagine if the lesbian companion had gotten to meet 13?? Death :D

One thing you hope really happens: Martha. I mean, come on. Jack is back, Jack warned the Doctor, promised to be there when needed. There’s no way Jack lost contact with Martha and Mickey, even with those two off in space fighting aliens alone. I’d love for this... very, very big plotline that is currently happening to include the Doctor’s old friends coming back once more to help.

Most shocking twist: I mean... I mean it’s gotta be this series’ Surprise Origin Story. Like, I still can’t quite comprehend that one.

When did you start watching/reading?: As mentioned above, when it first started airing in Germany

Best animal/creature: Does the TARDIS count as a creature? Because then Sexy wins!

Favourite location: THE TARDIS. I wish they’d show it more often just casually. I wanna see the companions hang out in there, I wanna see their rooms, see that indoor pool and stuff

Trope you wish they would stop using: "OH NO THE DALEKS ARE STILL ALIVE AFTER THE LAST TIME I TRIED GENOCIDE ON THEM *gasp*”... Like. The very first time they brought them “back from the dead”, it was really cool because as a newbie you never met them before but you get they are important. Then they were wiped out. And then they returned again. And okay, sure. So they were wiped out again. And miraculously survied again.

Look, I get it. Doctor Who has three recurring entities in the villain gallery who are like... obligatory - the Master, the Daleks and the Cybermen. But for the love of everything, stop trying to show it as a “surprise twist” that the bad guy is a Dalek like we all knew they’re coming they’re the cockroaches of the universe, they ALWAYS surprise, stop acting like we should be shocked that they’re back again.

Every time, the Doctor goes Pikachu meme but with sad eyes and like just... have the Doctor groan, kick a Dalek and go “not you again”, instead of “how did you POSSIBLY survive THIS? :O” because after the sixth miracuous survival of a genocide, it stops being a surprise twist... -_-

One thing this show/book/film does better than others: Clearly something, because it has me come back for more like a masochist despite me being a character-driven viewer - me, abandoning the show after the first series was very in character, because I’m attached to characters and if you routinely replace all the characters, that’s... not really my thing. Somehow, this show defies the odds there

Funniest moments: JACK FLIRTING WITH PEOPLE AND THE DOCTOR GOING “NO STOP THAT!” xDDD

Couple you would like to see: NONE. NO ROMANCE. KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF MY DW!!! Urgh. Just give me fun found family space adventures. I swear ever since the cast announcement I have had a twitchy eyebrow waiting if they’ll push for Ryan/Yaz and so far I am sooo glad they are NOT. I just... want friendship and space adventures, no fucking romance. At all. Not with the Doctor, not between companions. No drama

Actor/Actress you want to join the cast: ...to stay in character, I have to say Dominic Sherwood. Partially because I am obsessed with him, but also because I WANNA HEAR HIS BRITISH ACCENT FOR A WHOLE ASS SERIES PLEASE

I would also like to see the return of James Marsters though. Time Heist teased by showing his face and acknowledging his existence in Doctor Who (it’s not like DW has acknowledged a whole lot of Torchwood canon so far, considering the catastrophic events TW has dealt with without the Doctor...), so that had me kind of hopeful he may at least cameo for an episode...

Favourite outfit: I looove Martha’s red leather jacket and Jack’s coat

Favourite item: The chameleon device

Do you own anything related to this show/book/film?: *clears throat awkwardly* ...Yes?

a metro card holder thingy with the TARDIS on it,

an I pin I have on my pencil case,

a necklace with a miniature TARDIS,

a necklace with the wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey quote in a swirl on it,

a necklace with a Weeping Angel pendant,

a mug with the 10th Doctor as a cat on it,

a lanyard with Police Call Box written all over and a miniature TARDIS dangling on it

a TARDIS dress,

a whoosh-sound making door opening TARDIS with size-fitting figures of the 10th Doctor, Jack, Martha, K9, Idris, 11, Rory and John Hart (it’s James Marsters’ pretty face, okay?),

a Funko Pop 10th Doctor,

another TARDIS but this one is smaller and can’t open,

a larger TARDIS that can open (and is the right size for my Doctor Whooves),

a Doctor Whooves (if that counts since he’s technically My Little Pony but also he’s the Doctor so like...),

a TARDIS-blue stuffed owl with Police Owl written on it,

the first four series on DVD,

a poster from the 50th Anniversary with the War Doctor walking away from an explosion and 10 and 11 on either side of him,

a pocket watch that is the chameleon device

What house/team/group/friendship group/family/race etc would you be in?: Mmmh I would like to be on the current team the most, I think? Generally speaking, their adventures were less intense than most others and I dig the family vibe

Most boring plotline: Boring, huh? There are always a couple stinkers, at least one in each series, but a really boring plotline was... Clara’s post-Impossible-Girl one. I LOVED her as the Impossible Girl, she was so interesting and I think that after she went into the Doctor’s timeline, the character should have been retired. Have her, I don’t know, dissolve there, since she is spread out through time. But that she stuck around was... not good, for her character? Her love drama with Danny was incredibly boring and not fun to watch (especially when she tried to kill the Doctor :D)

Most laughably bad moment: THAT FUCKING MOON EPISODE. THE FUCKING EPISODE WHERE THE FUCKING MOON TURNED INTO A FUCKING EGG AND AN ALIEN HATCHED TO THEN LAY A NEW MOON EGG IMMEDIATELY AFTER BEING BORN AND HUMANS JUST FUCKING SHRUGGED THAT SHIT OFF. Urgh. There are a lot of cringey things happening on this show, but this takes by far the crown. It was so stupid, so dumb, so ridiculous

Best flashback/flashfoward if any: Every time we learn more about the Doctor’s past *^*

Most layered character: I... I mean the Doctor. So many layers, so many lives, so many years

Most one dimensional character:Mh, this is harder... Among the not one-episode-off characters? I guess Nardole. Like, sure, good guy, but... not really all that deep that one

Scariest moment: Blink with the Weeping Angels. They lost A LOT of their scariness the more they were used - Moffat really overused them, in my opinion; they would have done better only appearing very rarely. But that first episode with them was just daaamn

Grossest moment: Cassandra?? Woman only made of skin?

Best looking male: CAPTAIN JACK HARKNESS

Best looking female: MARTHA JONES

Who you’re crushing on (if any): Martha Jones

Favourite cast moment: John and David being cute behind the scenes is always amazing, but the bes moment is definitely the 500 Miles video!

Favourite transportation: The TARDIS, that’s not even a question!

Most beautiful scene (scenery/shot wise): Whenever we get to see (not destroyed) Gallifrey? It’s so gorgeous??

Unanswered question/continuity issue/plot error that bugs you:SO MANY AFTER THAT LAST SERIES. But also things like: Where did Clara fuck off to in her flying diner? What exactly is Jack doing now that there is no Torchwood anymore? How in the world did Torchwood ever even work like how was the Doctor just never around during these gigantic problems?? WHO WAS THE DOCTOR’S FIRST WIFE? And what was the Doctor’s child like? Because the only one ever even mentioned is the Doctor’s granddaughter Susan, but a granddaughter implies one more generation between. WHERE IS JENNY? Since she is also the Doctor’s daughter but also just fucked off into space and like why is she not trying to track her parent down??

Best promo: I mean, it clearly works when they show me Jack’s face so that’d be it for me :D”

At what point did you fall in love with this show/book: At the series 4 finale, as above more elaborately explained

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