#mcu is deeply unserious

[mikemurdock]

oh this is. hm

[jyndor2]

mcu fans are so unserious. you call out people for buying starbucks cups and then have blogs about marvel shit lmao

we absolutely should do both. idk who annoys me more, star wars fans or marvel fans. lol I should do a poll brb

[djo]

Okay but do we actually think foggy is dead?

🤷🏼‍♀️

i’m not getting my hopes up since we actually see him take his final breath. if we hadn’t i would be more inclined to believe otherwise because of the classic no body = no death trope. however, we’re also talking about the mcu and the whole thing is equivalent to a circus (that is to say, it’s deeply unserious) so if it turns out he’s alive somehow then sure, whatever. i know it was just announced that elden and deborah are coming back for season two, so we’ll just have to wait and see!

i will also say that i have complicated feelings on the matter in general. as much as i love foggy, i think character death fakeouts are lazy and cheap unless they’re done really well. so even if he is alive, i’m not sure how much i’d actually vibe with it 😵‍💫 that being said, i think if anyone in the mcu could pull it off decently well it would be daredevil but idk! i’m still apprehensive about the whole thing

[stackthedeck]

I fully recognize that being sad about losing my blorbos is not like a Real Problem, but I've decided that given the whole Sabra situation I can't in good conscience ever support Marvel again, and every day I remember another character that I'm never gonna get to see again and I get so sad. How are you dealing with it?

Okay fun answer that is like so deeply unserious but like i do think it is practical if you're like me and fandom has been your main hobby and identity for years. and then i'm putting the more political and upsetting answer under the cut because frankly they should be separate posts but I only got the one ask

I've been dealing with it but like forcing another hyper fixation lmao which you know doesn't work for everyone but like hey join me in booster gold and blue beetle brain rot!! It's super easy to not talk about marvel if all i want to talk about is other characters from dc and indie comics. I'm not buying marvel comics anymore because I've gotta save my money to buy the current blue beetle run. I can't post marvel fics right now, I'm working on boostle fics and I'm hoping that if I scream loud enough about them I'll have convinced enough people to read their comics and they'll have 1000 fics on ao3 by the end of the year

To some extent I still think about the characters in marvel that I hold dear, I'm still doing fandom for them through discord and continuing fics and i still reblog art on here. I do this because the cultural capital of those actions are negligible that the marvel brand and disney company really gaining nothing for it and i truly believe that all art needs to be discussed and thought about especially when the creator is problematic and like deeply involved in politics. I'm still thinking and talking about marvel because the space i gave it in my heart and brain never goes away and like quitting cold turkey this thing that's been in my life since i was 8 isn't super attainable. but I'm not doing these fandom behaviors on tiktok because it's a larger platform with no nuance, a younger demographic, and it's designed to sell you things. If I talk about marvel on that platform, aside from making people aware of the boycotts it is giving disney cultural capital and frankly it'll probably convince people to buy from the disney company. Still think deeply about these works because when we stop looking, we give ourselves permission to miss the actual messaging. when we say art has no value, we can't see it's values it portrays and we let too much shit slide.

I've found that the way i've distanced myself most from all my positive fandom feelings for marvel is through becoming more aware of the politics around comics. Getting really deep into the history of comics and the film making process of the mcu movies scratched a fandom itch in my brain, but most importantly I became so deeply and terribly aware of how the modern superhero genre has so deeply lost the plot. I gave a tedx speech about this on my campus and written a few papers about it but like Jack Kirby and Joe Simon made the character of Captain America to plead with their government to stop the oppression and genocide of their people in europe, they received death threats from nazis because they did that, despite the way people view the character as propaganda for the us military, steve rogers was first and foremost two men using fiction to beg for change and for their government to get involved to save lives. And now marvel studios is using the company they started to platform a character that represents the legitimacy of a settler state, marvel studios who is funded in part by the pentagon, who with every new movie results in increased enlistment in the military, is platforming a character that declares the right of israel to exist as it does now with the same tactics and symbols kirby and simon used to create a character that was made to stop genocide. It just makes me sick. It is a complete and total pervasion of who kirby and simon were and what they stood for. I respect their work too much to continue buying from marvel studios in any form and i can't stomach any of the new storylines the comics are telling because this isn't what comics are supposed to be

I think about this spider-man costume that was found in the rumble of a home in Gaza (link to original post) and i think about how these stories connect us, how there was a little boy who need to feel strong and powerful who wanted to be a hero and he was killed for the crime of being born Palestinian but he's no different than any other child i've loved in my life. and this multibillion dollar company funded his death, sanctioned the idea of it through the art they create, and my tax dollars fund every step of it. When I look at Spider-Man, a character who i grew up with, I can feel only grief and rage.

[scarletemeraldpurple]

Fandom discourse

Idk the extent of disappointment and frustration people are expressing over not Seeing Agatha And Rio Kiss is…interesting.

A. I don’t really get the whole “we’ve had gay man rep in the MCU already” and I’m like…we have? (WandaVision and AAA are the only two things I’ve really been Invested in so it’s entirely possible I’m missing something) ((though with the circles I run in irl I feel like I would have heard about it anyway))

And even if that’s the case, does that make Billy’s queerness and relationship not worth exploring somehow?

A.2 And as far as “Agatha being ignored for a man”. This is so deeply unserious to me. I could say more but I just don’t feel like I should have to.

B. If I see one more post implying Agatha and Rio will only be confirmed as having gay feelings for each other if they Kiss on the Mouth I’m gonna lose it. I support women kissing on screen as much as the next butch, don’t get me wrong. But like. Everyone’s favorite “Toxic old woman yuri” is being…toxic, and isn’t that more interesting/ exciting in some ways?

[azothmahoushoujo]

Honestly, the way that many people these days are praising anything they perceive as "sincerity" in media and being "genuine" feels really silly. Like it's an issue sure, but only really in like select modern western media like tv shows and movies made by disney and probably directed by that one guy, and not much else really. Like, it's really not difficult to find media and art that takes itself seriously and the idea that most or all art these days has that issue is extremely silly and false lol. People talk and write like they're gasping for air and sucking random broken faucets every time they notice like japanese media not being written like an mcu movie and it's all just deeply unserious behaviour ironically enough.